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Post by storyteller0910 on Mar 15, 2012 16:16:00 GMT -5
It was another long day, full of back and forth and wild claim's from many of Gotham's finest. Who was lying? Who was telling the truth? Who decided to have a grilled cheese sandwich for dinner, thanks to peeker? Only the Shadow knows, and he's not from this continuity, so he's not telling.
In the end, they settled on Drain Bead. As they prepared to buckle her into the electric chair, though, they noticed an odd thing... she was nowhere to be found.
The search went on until near midnight. Eventually someone noticed - at old Arkham Asylum, in the maximum security north tower, all the lights were dim except one. A team was dispatched to investigate, and returned in short order.
"She's in there," said the lead thug. "She's locked herself in. She just keeps writing on the wall - '4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42,' over and over." I think she's really lost it, this time. I don't think we'll be having any trouble with her from here on out."
Drain Bead, The Riddler, who was third party (Investigative), has been lynched
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Night Two begins here and will end on Saturday, March 17. I have a fantasy baseball draft that day and it will likely not end until early evening, so I'm saying end of Night is at 7:00PM EDT instead of 5:00PM.
(Incidentally, for anyone worried about such things, the color above is just color; Drain Bead was lynched without incident). I had to keep it short today - I have a meeting in forty five minutes.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 15, 2012 16:23:04 GMT -5
Sorry you got stuck with that role, Drain or at least sorry that it ended up exposed with so much still left unknown.
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Post by Total Ullz on Mar 15, 2012 16:23:34 GMT -5
So Nanook - have you anything to share?
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Post by Inner Stickler on Mar 15, 2012 16:25:19 GMT -5
Because I don't have anything else to do at the moment.
1. peekercpa - claimed towniefinder/alignment broadcaster 2. Pollux Oil 3. Nanook - claimed recruiter 5. scathach 7. sinjin 8. Total Ullz - claimed mason buddies with IS 9. SBrOwn 10. gnarlycharly 11. Suburban Plankton 12. Rysto 13. Gadarene - claimed townie 16. Cometothe...Cookies 17. Idle Thoughts 18. BillMc 19. texcat - claimed vig 21. Silver Jan - claimed name cop 22. Meeko 23. askthepizzaguy 24. Lightfoot - claimed scum/notscum cop 25. Mahaloth - claimed double scotsman for NKs. 27. Archangel 28. Hal Briston 29. dirx 30. Chronos 31. Inner Stickler - claimed mason buddies with Total
26. astral rejection
4. Merestil Haye 6. Special Ed
15. Pleonast 20. guiri 14. Drain Bead
I think we just hate third parties.
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Post by Meeko on Mar 15, 2012 16:26:41 GMT -5
So, you guys hate me because I DIDN'T shoot at an innocent.
Yeah. I'm missing something there.
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Post by Meeko on Mar 15, 2012 16:27:13 GMT -5
NETA :
Per Peekers and Hal's analogy of the gun battle and lynch being a loaded gun.
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Post by texcat on Mar 15, 2012 16:27:19 GMT -5
Whelp, I am sorry Drain couldn't join our team, and I am sorry to see her go, but I am glad scum wont' get her.
I am going to have a long squint before sending in my NK. I think everyone voted, but Archangel's participation was lacking, to say the least. I hope that Nanook reports a successful recruitment soon.
Any suggestions for NK will be carefully evaluated and considered.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 15, 2012 16:28:53 GMT -5
Ok Meeko, what do you need to discuss to your satisfaction to get you voting again?
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Post by Nanook on Mar 15, 2012 16:31:46 GMT -5
But not enough to make it a shoo-in. Many of us have reservations about a drain lynch. You and Nanook don't have a mandate, here. The way you talk, I almost expect you to cross check the texcat voters with the archangel voters and assume everyone on both lists is scum./quote] The only mandate I feel I have is the one to use my power in the best way possible. That's all I received. Apparently recruitment takes a long time. Makes some sense I suppose, since the rules state that things only resolve at Dawn and Dusk.
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Post by Nanook on Mar 15, 2012 16:32:39 GMT -5
Blah, blown tag. First half is inner obviously.
Meeko, Third Party is not innocent. Drain may have been telling the truth, but she still wasn't Town.
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Post by Inner Stickler on Mar 15, 2012 16:32:53 GMT -5
Whelp, I am sorry Drain couldn't join our team, and I am sorry to see her go, but I am glad scum wont' get her. I'm sorry Drain has to chalk up a loss through no fault of her own.
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Post by Total Ullz on Mar 15, 2012 16:33:40 GMT -5
So, you guys hate me because I DIDN'T shoot at an innocent. I am not a hating sort of person - but to be honest right now I can think of a reason or two to dislike you. In game that is.
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Post by peekercpa on Mar 15, 2012 16:33:47 GMT -5
I think we just hate third parties. well since recruits will most likely come from this pile i certainly don't have a problem getting rid of them. i mean if nook can get one that gives town about 10 percent more fire power. if scum can get one that most likely gives them 20 percent or so more fire power. so yeh, it's in town's best interest to keep whacking away at them.
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Post by Meeko on Mar 15, 2012 16:34:58 GMT -5
Ok Meeko, what do you need to discuss to your satisfaction to get you voting again? Not sure how you want to mean this. I think we should have all third parties claim*. I think town should to the best of it's abilities recruit those third parties. THEN we can begin to think about lynches. *Scum will claim third party.; Yeah, ok. But won't we have more than one person claiming the same role at that point? Won't we have players comb over PMs and Fake PMs ? I can't shake the notion that playing this game like every game before it, can't be good for Town.
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Post by peekercpa on Mar 15, 2012 16:36:24 GMT -5
So, you guys hate me because I DIDN'T shoot at an innocent. Yeah. I'm missing something there. uh dude unless you are reading something i am not. draino was a 3rd party. potentially recruitable by someone. their ain't no innocence there. plus i don't get the "shoot" inference. it's just a vote for whom you think can hurt town the most.
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Post by Inner Stickler on Mar 15, 2012 16:36:56 GMT -5
Meeko, Third Party is not innocent. Drain may have been telling the truth, but she still wasn't Town. I'm all ears when you'd like to explain how a third party investigative role could be dangerous to town. And being recruited doesn't count as she would be a scum investigative role, not third party.
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Post by Meeko on Mar 15, 2012 16:38:14 GMT -5
This is from my role
WIN CONDITION: All Scum and PFK (if any) are neutralized.
Story, how are you defining "" neutralized "" ?
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Post by Inner Stickler on Mar 15, 2012 16:38:43 GMT -5
Third party is not the same as PFK.
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Post by Nanook on Mar 15, 2012 16:39:39 GMT -5
You can't discount recruitment as a danger in a game that has recruitment. You especially can't ignore recruitment of a third party in a game in which it is very likely that the recruitment is tied to third parties. She was dangerous because she was either lying about her role, or a prime target for scum recruitment. Her not lying removes one of the reasons for her danger yes, but it doesn't mean shit for the other one.
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Post by Meeko on Mar 15, 2012 16:40:27 GMT -5
So, you guys hate me because I DIDN'T shoot at an innocent. I am not a hating sort of person - but to be honest right now I can think of a reason or two to dislike you. In game that is. If you care to elaborate...
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Post by Inner Stickler on Mar 15, 2012 16:42:22 GMT -5
You can't discount recruitment as a danger in a game that has recruitment. You especially can't ignore recruitment of a third party in a game in which it is very likely that the recruitment is tied to third parties. She was dangerous because she was either lying about her role, or a prime target for scum recruitment. Her not lying removes one of the reasons for her danger yes, but it doesn't mean shit for the other one. There's still no evidence that scum recruitment exists. And if said recruiter does exist, I'm not convinced you're not it.
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Post by Meeko on Mar 15, 2012 16:43:08 GMT -5
You can't discount recruitment as a danger in a game that has recruitment. You especially can't ignore recruitment of a third party in a game in which it is very likely that the recruitment is tied to third parties. She was dangerous because she was either lying about her role, or a prime target for scum recruitment. Her not lying removes one of the reasons for her danger yes, but it doesn't mean shit for the other one. Was she not a prime target for town recruitment? Wouldn't we have had the same options?
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 15, 2012 16:43:17 GMT -5
Inner, that was a large part of the justifications for lynching her. To keep her investigative power out of the Scum's hands. So the possibility that should could be recruited by scum very much did count, at least in my thought process.
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Post by peekercpa on Mar 15, 2012 16:44:00 GMT -5
That's all I received. Apparently recruitment takes a long time. Makes some sense I suppose, since the rules state that things only resolve at Dawn and Dusk. well let's see what maha has to say. i mean based on a 48 hour rl night story can't be sending out pms based on potential recruitment right up to the deadline. but now that i type that if you had a Day action it should have resolved at dusk. the only sense that makes cheese is that your action went through but that now the recruitment decision is a Night action by maha. but that is also copacetic based on C4 structure.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 15, 2012 16:44:43 GMT -5
Ok Meeko, what do you need to discuss to your satisfaction to get you voting again? Not sure how you want to mean this. I think we should have all third parties claim*. I think town should to the best of it's abilities recruit those third parties. THEN we can begin to think about lynches. *Scum will claim third party.; Yeah, ok. But won't we have more than one person claiming the same role at that point? Won't we have players comb over PMs and Fake PMs ? I can't shake the notion that playing this game like every game before it, can't be good for Town. This is a pretty tall order to fill. Are you going to continue not to vote until your demands are met?
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Post by Total Ullz on Mar 15, 2012 16:46:55 GMT -5
THEN we can begin to think about lynches . What? I simply don't get you!! Town has to lynch every Day. That is the only way we can get information. And you want to think about it for... how long? Look I am trying my best not to be impolite here, but - do you even get the idea of the game?
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Post by Meeko on Mar 15, 2012 16:47:16 GMT -5
This is a pretty tall order to fill. Are you going to continue not to vote until your demands are met? Why is it tall order, exactly? Don't third parties have motivation to chose sides?
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Post by peekercpa on Mar 15, 2012 16:49:47 GMT -5
Meeko, Third Party is not innocent. Drain may have been telling the truth, but she still wasn't Town. I'm all ears when you'd like to explain how a third party investigative role could be dangerous to town. And being recruited doesn't count as she would be a scum investigative role, not third party. how is a THIRD party investigative role helpful to town? obviously they win whichever way the winds blow (traditionally). so unless by your definition THIRD PARTY is merely a red headed step child of town and by definition is playing for town's win by default i think you are full of hooey.
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Post by Meeko on Mar 15, 2012 16:50:11 GMT -5
THEN we can begin to think about lynches . What? I simply don't get you!! Town has to lynch every Day. That is the only way we can get information. And you want to think about it for... how long? Look I am trying my best not to be impolite here, but - do you even get the idea of the game? Town doesn't HAVE to lynch every day. I think my resting vote for Day 2 proves this. Once we can all agree on the priorities for this game, that would be enough thought. The idea of Mafia isn't the question. The Idea of this game..... I'm still trying to figure out.
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Post by Nanook on Mar 15, 2012 16:50:33 GMT -5
Why is it tall order, exactly? Don't third parties have motivation to chose sides? No, they don't. Their only motivation is to stay alive. If choosing a side helps them do that, they will. If not choosing a side helps, they'll do that instead.
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