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Post by storyteller0910 on Mar 29, 2012 16:15:45 GMT -5
They surrounded Sister Coyote, menacing and fearful all at once. “Lynch! Lynch! “ they shouted. “Her words are deceitful and strange, and also, I think she changed gender at some point!” Against this last argument, Sister Coyote was helpless. Breaking from the crowd, she sprinted to the altar. She bore her arms; each was marked with numerous long, dark scars. This one was for the Rat-man, and this one for the Moth, she said, indicating two of the fresher ones. Too bad… I had plenty of space left… you’re such angry little piggies. Sad, really
The she began to giggle… rat, moth, piggy. And bats and cats and bears and scorpions! Oh my!
They attempted to close around her; knives, very long and very well used, appeared in her hands.
Oh, no – no – it’s not for the piggies to say when the farmer dies. That wouldn’t be right at all.
Her eyes turned toward the long row of candles, flickering nearby.
Their eyes widened. They ran. This was wise; the fireball was quite large. When it was over, they ventured back into the smoking remains of the cathedral and carted out Sister Coyote’s blackened remains. She was, as it turned out, exactly who she claimed to be.
Sister Coyote, VICTOR ZSASZ, who was Town (Killing), has been lynched.
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SBrown’s device now reads “37.” I think. Screw it, I was enjoying being coy about the mechanism but it wasn’t really meant to be a secret forever; it changes when someone unvotes. If I’ve messed this up, I apologize.
Pollux Oil’s device now reads “3.” It changes when Pollux votes.
Hal Briston’s device has not changed. You don’t yet know when it changes, but I promise, I won’t be coy anymore.
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Night Four begins here and will end at 7:00PM Eastern on Saturday, 31 March (I have an event that day and will not get home until around then).
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 29, 2012 16:23:57 GMT -5
Sorry Sister C. Not looking so good for you anymore, Texcat. Good job with the hiding in plain sight again scummies. Shall we dance?
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Post by Pollux Oil on Mar 29, 2012 16:25:57 GMT -5
Welp. Sorry Sis.
I think texcat should take a break toNight, honestly. We did end up lynching one killing role, but a Night with only one kill would be much appreciated. It'll also give us another data point in determining whether texcat is who she says she is.
I'm definitely thinking the devices are non-lethal. A compulsory vig on the side of the town + Scum + whatever texcat is + Joker's killing abilities = a lot of death. Devices = death would be a metric shit ton of death.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Mar 29, 2012 16:41:48 GMT -5
It'll also give us another data point in determining whether texcat is who she says she is. How? All it will tell us, again, is that texcat is non-compulsory. It will tell us absolutely nothing about her alignment
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Post by BillMc on Mar 29, 2012 16:42:39 GMT -5
Well that sucks.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 29, 2012 16:50:24 GMT -5
As I've been sitting for so long contemplating what light might be shown by my perfectly incendiary information on the likes of Hal, Mahaloth, and Nanook all by my lonesome, I'm quite curious as to others' thoughts are about them.
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Post by Pollux Oil on Mar 29, 2012 16:50:45 GMT -5
How? All it will tell us, again, is that texcat is non-compulsory. It will tell us absolutely nothing about her alignment I said it's a data point, not that it would confirm her alignment. However, serial killers by definition are usually compulsory. Not always, but most of the time. If there is only one kill tomorrow morning and texcat claims to have not killed anybody, we'll at the very least know she can not kill. As such, our group as a whole can determine whether it's okay to let texcat kill on a given night. If she's a serial killer, eventually she'll need to kill people to forward her win condition. We'll know if she makes up excuses as to why she should kill/killed somebody and can use that as data accordingly. The important thing is knowing that she can choose to not kill, and with that information we can better assert the authenticity of her towniness when she does choose to kill.
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Post by BillMc on Mar 29, 2012 17:00:04 GMT -5
Maybe I'm missing something - but nowhere in the rules does it state PFK=SK If she is PFK, Town needs her dead.
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Post by Mahaloth on Mar 29, 2012 17:50:03 GMT -5
Oh, great.
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Post by Meeko on Mar 29, 2012 17:54:45 GMT -5
---- SBrown’s device now reads “37.” I think. Screw it, I was enjoying being coy about the mechanism but it wasn’t really meant to be a secret forever; it changes when someone unvotes. If I’ve messed this up, I apologize.
Pollux Oil’s device now reads “3.” It changes when Pollux votes.
Hal Briston’s device has not changed. You don’t yet know when it changes, but I promise, I won’t be coy anymore.---- Did I do that? /Urkel Well, at least I figured something out. Albeit indirectly. Are the numbers Negative still ?
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Post by peekercpa on Mar 29, 2012 22:12:17 GMT -5
sorry folks about the disappearance. but i got a chance to go to lake charles and be a true derelict at the casinos for a couple of days. needless to say i took full advantage. i at least packed the puter but every time i would think about seeing what was going on the siren song of poker/craps/black jack would rise to a crescendo beckoning me to the felt.
but crud. after gas, food, room and libations i came back with about 1,200 more than i started with. the missus is pissed, however. i have this horrible habit of just tossing those nasty one and five chips in my luggage. i must have had a hell of a run at a low limit table at some point, that frankly i don't recall, because i had a full rack of fives and ones burried under the underwear. she's like what in the world are you going to do with these?
silly woman. go back, of course.
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Post by Total Ullz on Mar 30, 2012 11:01:44 GMT -5
I agree with the idea to have Texcat *not* kill toNight. I think it would provide us with more info. However having said that we also have to consider that someone might have a one time kill and might use it toNight to set up Texcat. So we really can't be sure what's going on. I have another note. Frankly I think it's pure BS but if anyone wish for me to post it, I don't mind. Personally I think it would be a waste of time and space
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Post by Total Ullz on Mar 30, 2012 11:03:08 GMT -5
And sorry Sis C - I always seem to think you scummy
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Mar 30, 2012 11:41:47 GMT -5
I have another note. Frankly I think it's pure BS but if anyone wish for me to post it, I don't mind. Personally I think it would be a waste of time and space It's not like we've got a whole lot going on Tonight. What's the harm?
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Post by SBrOwn on Mar 30, 2012 11:44:33 GMT -5
SBrown’s device now reads “37.” I think. Screw it, I was enjoying being coy about the mechanism but it wasn’t really meant to be a secret forever; it changes when someone unvotes. If I’ve messed this up, I apologize.
Pollux Oil’s device now reads “3.” It changes when Pollux votes.
Hal Briston’s device has not changed. You don’t yet know when it changes, but I promise, I won’t be coy anymore. Back guys. And jeez. What the heck were some of you doing with your unvoting- MEEKO. Thanks alot Meeks. Really Well, that explains my larger number if it's tied to the unvotes- but just reading the end of the Day and just watching some of you guys just keep unvoting just made me cringe- down from -49 to (-)37.... A 12 point drop. But I guess we've learned how my device works- I'm still wondering if the two chemicals has two different outcomes based on maybe who does the final unvote or something? But still. Just... keep me in mind when you unvote, k? No pressure right now, but still. <_< As for Hal's device- it never seemed to trigger- I'm of the mind it's related maybe the same way mine is- to unvotes. But I don't know, and he's never unvoted yesterday. But that's my WAG. That said. Sister C as the Compulsory Vig. That's a rough claim to have to make, and I think I probably would have kept my vote where it was in the whole cookies vs. SisterC thing. I just hope I made the right move there and we protected our protector and not a mad bomber (sorry, Cookies, you know we have to consider that). That said. LIGHTFOOT, PLEASE SEND STORY YOUR NIGHT ACTION TONIGHT!Even if it's just a "hey, if I don't check in later, just check people in this order: 1. 2. 3. And then you can make up your mind later or adjust it or whatever, but PLEASE at this stage of the game, we can't afford a lazy dick on our side- at least not one that we have to keep presuming with a Townie motivation. Issue #2: So... Texcat. SisterC. Texcat. 3 Nightkillers. One a compulsory townie vig. One probably scum. Texcat, what are your thoughts on the whole SisterC issue? And how it paints you? Do you feel like you want to cooperate and not kill anyone tonight? Or would you like to still try to take a shot in the dark, and even if scum use a 1 shot or something to frame you, you can still say you killed X person [at the obvious risk of knowing you're kinda Suspicious person of interest #1 right now]. What would you do in our shoes, Texcat, basically in this scenario? Because the idea of 3 NKers, and 2 of them are fully town? :shrug: If there IS a PFK player... it'd make sense for it to be a PFK SK, ya know? Just want to know what's your thought on all this. Issue 3: Total Ullz: I'd say show the note, it's another Data point for us, and I think we'll all probably take it with a grain of salt at least. I don't think we ought to act on it or whatnot, but we can at least know what our random messenger is up to. Plus, it would decrease the paranoia of them trying to recruit you. <_<
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Post by storyteller0910 on Mar 30, 2012 13:11:06 GMT -5
PLEASE at this stage of the game, we can't afford a lazy dick on our side- This is generally true in any situation, I think.
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Post by sinjin on Mar 30, 2012 14:16:49 GMT -5
PLEASE at this stage of the game, we can't afford a lazy dick on our side- This is generally true in any situation, I think. Is a lazy dick like a lazy eye, kinda pointed to the side?
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Post by Sister Coyote on Mar 30, 2012 15:20:47 GMT -5
This is generally true in any situation, I think. Is a lazy dick like a lazy eye, kinda pointed to the side? Fie on all yinz.
Good Luck Town!
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 30, 2012 15:24:24 GMT -5
This is generally true in any situation, I think. Is a lazy dick like a lazy eye, kinda pointed to the side? And you can never quite tell if it is looking at you or the friend next to you?
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Post by sinjin on Mar 30, 2012 16:08:34 GMT -5
Oh and I signed in to post that last little tidbit and found I had a message that was delivered yesterday:
It appears to be from the scummy scums. Seems like typical scum wifom mischief. They say they can't kill Iexcat so we have to lynch her. But with 3 kills per night except the night Dirx held off it doesn't appear they tried to kill her at all. And how do they know she's PFK anyway???
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Mar 30, 2012 16:16:11 GMT -5
Bleah.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 30, 2012 17:53:35 GMT -5
Oh and I signed in to post that last little tidbit and found I had a message that was delivered yesterday: It appears to be from the scummy scums. Seems like typical scum wifom mischief. They say they can't kill Iexcat so we have to lynch her. But with 3 kills per night except the night Dirx held off it doesn't appear they tried to kill her at all. And how do they know she's PFK anyway??? Texcat was investigated as "not 3rd Party" by a (now dead) Town investigator. So it seems like the note was written so as to present the possibility that the scum don't claim her either, ergo she's PFK because who would give a Town 2 vigs?
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 30, 2012 17:59:27 GMT -5
NETA and I suppose it is possible (though seems quite over-powered, unless she's lying about being a vig) that she could maybe redirect kill attempts on her toward someone else, which upon thinking about it, would be quite a handy cover for someone who is a) a claimed vig and b) being repeatedly targeted for death by killing roles of any alignment. But we already know that the notes can lie, so who knows.
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Post by texcat on Mar 30, 2012 19:22:20 GMT -5
I put no stock in these notes whatsoever. They are a tool used by scum to try to get town to kill each other, making the scum's job easier. The first note which I received tried to implicate Total in Astral's death on night 1. The wanted me to vig Total. If I had fallen for it, I'm sure they would have tried to get town to lynch me the next day, and probably not had much of a problem doing it. The second note which Total received, allegedly trying to recruit her, but the note tried to imply that Hal had already been recruited since he was the first to talk about the batmobile.
I am town. I understand that's difficult to swallow. When SisC claimed, I did not believe her claim for a NY second. Why had Dirx not counter-claimed me? Why had SisC not counter-claimed me? And why had neither killed me. I certainly would have killed her had our positions been reversed, because I didn't think there would be another town vig.
I don't understand why town has 2 vig roles, but I'm sure I don't like it. I think scum must have some compensating power and I am afraid that it must be recruitment. I am worried that they may have unlimited recruitments of 3rd parties. There might be an awful lot of scum left to kill at this point in the game.
I have not yet decided what to do tonight. I'd like to kill another scum, but my luck (aka impeccable logic) has not been so good since MHaye on night one. I might not kill anyone tonight, hoping that will at least show town that I am not a serial killer. It seems that the only possibilities for me are PFK and town. I hope that town gives me a chance to prove that I am town. I have killed 1 scum already. If you think that I am PFK, and I am not, but you should force scum to kill me. After all, the scum have to kill all the PFK to win just like they have to kill the townies to win. Don't let scum trick you into doing their job for them.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 30, 2012 19:45:09 GMT -5
As others have pointed out, even if all you did was kill scum from here on out, and you were the model Townie, you could still be a win-stealing PFK. Now, if LightFoot investigates you and gets a 'not-scum' read and then dies and flips Town, I'll happily remove you from my list of people that need to die at some point. But aside from that, I can't think of any methods at our apparent disposal to confirm you as Town while keeping you alive.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 30, 2012 19:46:43 GMT -5
And before I forget, for Mod errors that may or may not have helped seal Sister C's mislynch, I hereby take back all bunnies and nickels that I've ever paid up because I didn't bleach votes in quotes.
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Post by texcat on Mar 30, 2012 19:57:16 GMT -5
As others have pointed out, even if all you did was kill scum from here on out, and you were the model Townie, you could still be a win-stealing PFK. Now, if LightFoot investigates you and gets a 'not-scum' read and then dies and flips Town, I'll happily remove you from my list of people that need to die at some point. But aside from that, I can't think of any methods at our apparent disposal to confirm you as Town while keeping you alive. Does this mean that you are removing my kerosene tonight? We should expect 2 people to be kerosene'd tomorrow? I mean really, you thought my actions were townie enough to kerosene me. My actions have not changed. Only the fact that we now know that we started with 2 town vig's has changed.
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Post by Pollux Oil on Mar 30, 2012 20:06:26 GMT -5
I have another note. Frankly I think it's pure BS but if anyone wish for me to post it, I don't mind. Personally I think it would be a waste of time and space Oh and I signed in to post that last little tidbit and found I had a message that was delivered yesterday: So the scum can send multiple notes at the same time now? This is getting more and more confusing. I have not yet decided what to do tonight. I'd like to kill another scum, but my luck (aka impeccable logic) has not been so good since MHaye on night one. I might not kill anyone tonight, hoping that will at least show town that I am not a serial killer. It seems that the only possibilities for me are PFK and town. I hope that town gives me a chance to prove that I am town. I have killed 1 scum already. If you think that I am PFK, and I am not, but you should force scum to kill me. After all, the scum have to kill all the PFK to win just like they have to kill the townies to win. Don't let scum trick you into doing their job for them. We can't tell you what to do, but it would be very helpful in your case to not try and kill anyone tonight. Archangel and Rysto were mis-targets, especially Rysto. It's easy to go after somebody that's garnered suspicion over the day as a vig, however if we'd tried to lynch Rysto instead, we may have gotten some valuable investigative information from him and he'd still be alive. It's obviously your call, but killing another scum isn't going to prove your towniness any more in this case. A PFK wouldn't blink at killing scum to look more towny. A PFK not killing, however, would probably be completely against their win condition and it'll be harder for people to stomach the vig claim if you go and kill again anyway, especially when some people are already doubting you and others have expressed interest in you not killing someone toNight.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 30, 2012 20:07:15 GMT -5
A dead Townie holding a role that has already been claimed by another living player is a significant change. I think you'd agree if you were out here as uninformed as to what is amiss the rest of us who aren't scum. No comment on whether your kerosene charge will stay in place or not, though.
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Post by LightFoot on Mar 30, 2012 20:07:18 GMT -5
I sent my prelim target yester-clock-day
SBrOwn a friendly reminder or even a tongue in cheek joke would have sufficed. Yelling at me was not required.
[sarcasm] and the addition of how I could word my note to the mod was ever so helpful- I’m not 12 [/s]
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