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May 24, 2007 17:20:49 GMT -5
Post by cowgirl on May 24, 2007 17:20:49 GMT -5
My evening appointment is quite late so I'm squeezing in some time. this game is going to suck my life away, just like the last one. Yar! Just how it should be!
All responses to Idle Thoughts.
With the caveat that I know my case is not that solid. But I've got to vote for someone, and I need to have reasons, and these are more convincing to me now than the reasons for voting for anyone else. I don't need to have a rock-solid case, or convince anyone beyond a reasonable doubt. I'm just working with balance of probabilities here.
I'm sorry, I don't know what this is referring to. Can you clarify?
Okay, I withdraw the use of "FOS" and replace it with "casting suspicion," which is precisely what you did. On its own I was satisfied with your response but once I considered it in the context of your inconsistent responses to others, it seemed a bit scummy.
You are posting a lot and calling people out as well as just posting analysis. That's as aggressive as it can get at this point in the game, which is admittedly not very aggressive.
That's fine, it wouldn't surprise me either. But it wouldn't surprise me for non-pirates to have pirate avatars either. So what do we gain from knowing that someone has a pirate avatar? We know for sure that they may or may not be a pirate! Heck, we know that to be true of EVERYONE playing this game. We know that everyone whose username has two words may or may not be a pirate. We know that each female player may or may not be a pirate. The avatar doesn't give us an iota of additional knowledge w.r.t someone's status.
We're not talking about interpretations but about impressions. What she said matched my impressions of your posting. Even if she was completely wrong in her interpretation, it doesn't change my impressions of your posting.
You're suspecting me because I'm suspecting you?
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May 24, 2007 17:41:40 GMT -5
Post by Merestil Haye on May 24, 2007 17:41:40 GMT -5
I'll call the call for more from zuma, and raise a request for more from Mhaye as well. At the time, of writing this, I've been doing a read of the thread from page 5 (where I got to last night). I've been wondering as I read exactly when (and who) would say this, given the hammering on low-count players. On Autolycus, he did say he'd be busy until the 30th; so I'd be inclined to wait until the end of the month to sub him out. I definitely disagree with the idea of lynching him.
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May 24, 2007 17:49:55 GMT -5
Post by Gadarene on May 24, 2007 17:49:55 GMT -5
Well, hell. I've read the day over, and I'm not much more enlightened than I was before. Some scattered thoughts: I'm still pretty sure capybara is town, and I'm getting good vibes from cowgirl and Kyrie as well. Something about mhaye is pinging my radar; it's hard to articulate what. There's an assurance and confidence there that could be scummy...of course, it could just be assurance and confidence. Perhaps for different reasons, KatiRoo and Hockey Monkey twig somewhat odd to me. Autolycus still stinks to high heaven, as far as I'm concerned. I remain swayed by the point about his death yielding little information even if he turned up pirate. I wish I hadn't unvoted him, honestly, but I feel that revoting---on this day, anyway---would look really odd (although perfectly consistent with my ridiculous vacillations in the first two days of Mafia II before I got all twisted up in FOSing the nest of masons). I feel better about Blaster Master and Auntbeast than I did before. NAF and Idle have been very aggressive, although that's apparently their m.o. in other games as well. Everyone else...I dunno. I do want to return to a brief back-and-forth that I inadvertently dropped last night. ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies posted: I responded: Cookies replied: Which is an acceptable response, I guess, but I still get a twinge about the initial statement. It could just be idle commentary---I know other players have talked about how they've been perceived in past games---but Cookies hadn't really come under very much heat at that point, and that comment seems a little bit like an artful way of getting people to second-guess their suspicions of her, when they have them. Of course, maybe my own suspicions are just a self-fulfilling residue of that very same phenomenon. Anyway, it's a thin reed, but for lack of anything better at this point (it's her, Auto, or mhaye for me, basically), it's what I'm going to go with. Vote ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies
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May 24, 2007 17:50:24 GMT -5
Post by The Real FCOD on May 24, 2007 17:50:24 GMT -5
NAF, I'm posting enough so that people know I'm still active in the game. I don't know anything about M3, so comparisons to players in that game are lost on me. I admit what I'm doing because I'm not a pirate. Of course I'm trying to stay above the "lurker" radar. However, I'm not going to post long empty posts either, to avoid the "confusing empty posts" radar. I'm not too sure what I'm supposed to be doing to avoid suspicion if I have no useful analysis to post at this time. If I don't post anything I'm a pirate lurker. If I post too much without any content I'm a pirate trying to confuse people. If I post just a little, I'm pirate trying to stay just above the "lurker" radar.
You say: It's precisely because it's Day One that I'm OK with voting on a small suspicion. There's nothing else to go on! The Day is nearly over, and have to vote for someone. I have NO useful information other than my gut feeling, so that's why I'm voting for capybara.
--FCOD
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May 24, 2007 18:06:12 GMT -5
Post by Pleonast on May 24, 2007 18:06:12 GMT -5
I feel that revoting---on this day, anyway---would look really odd (although perfectly consistent with my ridiculous vacillations in the first two days of Mafia II before I got all twisted up in FOSing the nest of masons). That reminds me of a bit a strategy I was meaning to point out earlier. We Crew need to remember that not all Crew are clueless. The Mason-equivalents (I forget what they're called in this game, the Officers maybe?) know each other, and so their votes won't be entirely guesswork. Just keep that in mind; not all knowledge of other players is scummy.
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May 24, 2007 18:07:03 GMT -5
Post by Mad The Swine on May 24, 2007 18:07:03 GMT -5
I'll call the call for more from zuma, and raise a request for more from Mhaye as well. At the time, of writing this, I've been doing a read of the thread from page 5 (where I got to last night). I've been wondering as I read exactly when (and who) would say this, given the hammering on low-count players. On Autolycus, he did say he'd be busy until the 30th; so I'd be inclined to wait until the end of the month to sub him out. I definitely disagree with the idea of lynching him. You think it's ok for a player to barely post,if at all,until the 30th and then sub him out?That will take us into the beginning of day 3, I think.If he is gonna sub out now is the time,not 3 days into the game. I know he has company and that was established long ago,even before the game was underway,IIRC. However,I think he has every intention of playing and has been following along.His playing style(or lack of) is not what I expect from a crew member,especially after his MafiaII performance. While there are a few others who are high on the HOS,I believe he is a pirate,so I am gonna re vote Autolycus
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May 24, 2007 18:11:10 GMT -5
Post by Gadarene on May 24, 2007 18:11:10 GMT -5
Mad The Swine:
Still an excellent point. Dammit.
I'm going to the grocery store. When I get back I might just go with my first, best gut and follow along with MtS in revoting Auto.
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May 24, 2007 18:18:46 GMT -5
Post by capybara on May 24, 2007 18:18:46 GMT -5
I'm still torn. What's the timeline like?
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May 24, 2007 18:21:34 GMT -5
Post by diggitcamara on May 24, 2007 18:21:34 GMT -5
I'll come clean here: I have no idea who could be a pirate right now. Past (or rather: current) experience tells me any suspicion I'm bound to have won't gel until we arrive at Day 3 or so. Any suspicion I have now is bound to be earth-shatteringly wrong.
Still, I think we have to vote. And storyteller is too good a player to leave him/her lurking around. So: vote storyteller it is!
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May 24, 2007 18:22:04 GMT -5
Post by Merestil Haye on May 24, 2007 18:22:04 GMT -5
Anyway, it's a thin reed, but for lack of anything better at this point (it's her, Auto, or mhaye for me, basically), it's what I'm going to go with. OMGUS! Except that I really don't think you do. I've finished reading the thread (although I probably need to go over pages 10 to 13 again). I've been compiling notes about things that struck me as odd or problematical. Many players have no notes against their names. These are people I have no feeling for one way or another. They've done nothing that make me suspicious of them. Several others have one pointer against them. I'm slightly more concerned about these people; especially since we have a group of players who are unlikely to make too many mistakes. It may be that this group will bear close watch later. There is one player who have raised my hackles more than once. Capybara and her questions about how would certain player groups behave - I didn't like this. It feels like the wrong thing to do. But what first caught my attention was url=http://psychopathgame.proboards106.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1179788620&page=3#1179871292]post 90[/url]. This was an out-of-the-blue vote. When called on this, she attempted to claim that her questions (addressed to Idle Thoughts) in post 106 were her reasons. For the moment then I am going to Vote Capybara. I'm now going to reread the thread (from p10.) If anything else snags my attention now, or before I have to go out tomorrow morning, I'll reconsider. But it's 12:20am now, and the Day finishes in 11 hours and 40 minutes. I don't know how coherent I'll be at 6am. More later. Or tomorrow.
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May 24, 2007 18:22:41 GMT -5
Post by ArizonaTeach on May 24, 2007 18:22:41 GMT -5
Well, at least people are noticing me in this game...not sure how I feel about it. fluiddruid, I'm at a loss to as to how pointing out that someone either is a bad thing. Why would you focus on the fact I'm defending myself against an actual VOTE (not an FOS) instead of the fact that the reasoning behind the vote looks flawed?!? We're not allowed to defend against flat-out-untruths without getting FOS'd? On further thought, the fact that zuma likely didn't have time to read through everything much more than surfacely, and was doing a gut vote seems like a possibility. I maintain his gut was wrong. I'll say no more on this except this: it seems at least four people agree with me on the "asking what pirates would do is bad" thing, so I don't feel bad about that, and enough's been said about the Random Voting thing where I don't feel like I need to justify that. I hope this is enough of a response to satisfy you all. Blaster Master, I'll cop to playing differently. Sitting on the sides watching the game go on around me, not knowing WHAT the hell to do, and being wrong about 75% of the time was not fun. You might recall that when I really started analyzing and getting into it, I made my only accurate call of the game, proclaiming StarvingButStrong to be definitively town. Then I turned around and broadly hinted at Lakai as Godfather, which I continued to believe until the end of the game...so there you go. The voting right now...and by now I think we can all agree is a pet peeve of mine...the voting right now is very, very erratic. I have no clue who's voting where right now, and won't vote officially myself until later this evening...but I suppose it only fair to discuss who I am most likely not going to vote for: Autolycus. Is there anyone left on this planet that doesn't know he's getting some hardcore lovin' right now? The dude actually opened a thread about it. I say we give this one time, even though the fact he can post regularly at the Dope is grating. However, Auto, you do NOT have a grace period until the 30th with ME. I posted in M2 on my flippin' wedding day, so my understanding only goes so far...! CaerieD. She and I seem to agree on a couple issues, so she gets a pass right now... Blaster Master. I want to see what he has to say as the game continues. He's done nothing I find terribly suspicious at the moment, anyway. I'm not getting the hate for Cookies right now, either. But two people I have no reading on voted, so I guess I'd better look again. People I'm looking at very closely: Mad the Swine. His insistence on removing the lurkers, especially after lumping auntbeast in there, bugs me. fluiddruid. His ability to call my laying out the true facts as "unhelpful" is just...weird. I do agree with his post in 334, though. NAF1138. There's only so much fishing before it looks a little too forced; that's my opinion. This is someone who, as far as I can tell, is trying too hard to look "helpful." Idle Thoughts. For the reasons cowgirl spelled out. And capybara is looking interesting, too. I will vote later this evening; that's a promise. Now, I think seven or eight messages have popped up since I started composing, so I'd better take a look to see if anything's changed!
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May 24, 2007 18:24:01 GMT -5
Post by Merestil Haye on May 24, 2007 18:24:01 GMT -5
Oh godfathers, me and my proofreading.
Malacandra, wou;d you (dfor the sake of everyone and their sanity) correct that vagrant tag please?
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May 24, 2007 18:24:22 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on May 24, 2007 18:24:22 GMT -5
I was all prepared to vote for Auntbeast, but it's too hard to get a clear read through her newbishness. She needs more substance and fewer excuses in her posts. My scumdar is failing me at the moment. Everyone who've I reread seems reasonable enough. I guess I'm not in a paranoid enough mood. But feel like I'm not upholding my duty to the Crew if I don't vote for someone, so: ++Vote ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies++Reasons: 1. Skeptical of early both early votes and FOS's. Kind of unavoidable if we're going to play this game, but he wanted to stay out of it. Easy way to stay out of the limelight. I myself performed multiple early FOS's. I explained my views on early votes, and Day 1 votes in general, but those views don't apply to FOSing, which I've also explained as functionally similar to just general chatter, imho. 2. Defending Auntbeast and capybara. I certainly wouldn't feel comfortable defending anyone on this point, no knowing who's on my side. And not only defending them, but then goes on to FOS the accusers. Again, a FOS is not a vote. I think Mad's reasoning was weak, due to the possibility of false positives. What prompted me to look closely at that, was NAF so quickly echoing Mad's observations. It made me wonder if the Pirates might be trying some early (and admittedly sloppy) tandem manipulation, thinking that they could get away with it in the chaos of the Day 1. I was all prepared to vote for Auntbeast, but it's too hard to get a clear read through her newbishness. She needs more substance and fewer excuses in her posts. My scumdar is failing me at the moment. Everyone who've I reread seems reasonable enough. I guess I'm not in a paranoid enough mood. But feel like I'm not upholding my duty to the Crew if I don't vote for someone, so: ++Vote ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies++Reasons: 1. Skeptical of early both early votes and FOS's. Kind of unavoidable if we're going to play this game, but he wanted to stay out of it. Easy way to stay out of the limelight. I performed multiple early FOS's. I explained my views on early votes, and Day 1 votes in general, but those views don't apply to FOSing, which I've also explained as functionally similar to just general chatter. 3. Voting for Autolycus because there's "no other appealing alternative". Strikes me as jumping on a wagon. I don't consider it an appealing alternative to select a Day 1 vote recipient from a smaller pool just because some people aren't participating. I'd rather vote for the no-shows in the hopes that they'll show up. And as for Gadarene now voting for me too, my post was intended to be "newbie commiserative" alone. If they were town, it would kinda suck to be perceived as they have been perceived, and I know that from experience. That is all.
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May 24, 2007 18:25:01 GMT -5
Post by cowgirl on May 24, 2007 18:25:01 GMT -5
FCoD, I appreciate that you haven't had much to say, but it is exacly because you are clearly trying to not get caught in the lurker radar that I am suspicious of you... I'll note for the sake of interest that, in my estimation, he's posting precisely as he was in M2, when he was mafia. No FOS, mind, just an observation for now - consider it another sort of answer to the "if you were scum, how would you be posting?" question.
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May 24, 2007 18:30:52 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on May 24, 2007 18:30:52 GMT -5
Well that was as clear as mud. Let's try again.
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May 24, 2007 18:34:33 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on May 24, 2007 18:34:33 GMT -5
I was all prepared to vote for Auntbeast, but it's too hard to get a clear read through her newbishness. She needs more substance and fewer excuses in her posts. My scumdar is failing me at the moment. Everyone who've I reread seems reasonable enough. I guess I'm not in a paranoid enough mood. But feel like I'm not upholding my duty to the Crew if I don't vote for someone, so: ++Vote ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies++Reasons: 1. Skeptical of early both early votes and FOS's. Kind of unavoidable if we're going to play this game, but he wanted to stay out of it. Easy way to stay out of the limelight. I myself performed multiple early FOS's. I explained my views on early votes, and Day 1 votes in general, but those views don't apply to FOSing, which I've also explained as functionally similar to just general chatter, imho. 2. Defending Auntbeast and capybara. I certainly wouldn't feel comfortable defending anyone on this point, no knowing who's on my side. And not only defending them, but then goes on to FOS the accusers. Again, a FOS is not a vote. I think Mad's reasoning was weak, due to the possibility of false positives. What prompted me to look closely at that, was NAF so quickly echoing Mad's observations. It made me wonder if the Pirates might be trying some early (and admittedly sloppy) tandem manipulation, thinking that they could get away with it in the chaos of the Day 1. I was all prepared to vote for Auntbeast, but it's too hard to get a clear read through her newbishness. She needs more substance and fewer excuses in her posts. My scumdar is failing me at the moment. Everyone who've I reread seems reasonable enough. I guess I'm not in a paranoid enough mood. But feel like I'm not upholding my duty to the Crew if I don't vote for someone, so: ++Vote ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies++Reasons: 1. Skeptical of early both early votes and FOS's. Kind of unavoidable if we're going to play this game, but he wanted to stay out of it. Easy way to stay out of the limelight. I performed multiple early FOS's. I explained my views on early votes, and Day 1 votes in general, but those views don't apply to FOSing, which I've also explained as functionally similar to just general chatter. 3. Voting for Autolycus because there's "no other appealing alternative". Strikes me as jumping on a wagon. I don't consider it an appealing alternative to select a Day 1 vote recipient from a smaller pool just because some people aren't participating. I'd rather vote for the no-shows in the hopes that they'll show up. And as for Gadarene now voting for me too, my post was intended to be "newbie commiserative" alone. If they were town, it would kinda suck to be perceived as they have been perceived, and I know that from experience. That is all.
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May 24, 2007 18:35:57 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on May 24, 2007 18:35:57 GMT -5
Ok I give up. You're all on your own to ignore any redundancy.
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May 24, 2007 18:47:01 GMT -5
Post by ArizonaTeach on May 24, 2007 18:47:01 GMT -5
So, that's how you up your post count...
;D
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May 24, 2007 19:10:08 GMT -5
Post by KatiRoo on May 24, 2007 19:10:08 GMT -5
Well, it has (almost) come dowm to the wire, and vote I must. Ick.
Of the shipmates here on the SS Hispaniola, several have pinged me for lack of posting. Of course, that can include me as well, so lack of total number of posts maybe isn't the best indicator of scumminess.
I'm going to go for the person posting the highest number of posts without any real content - pure fluff - and that means ...
I am voting for you +++ MadThe Swine +++
I still think early agressiveness is a scum tell, but I'm not getting clear signals of this so far. I'll keep watching, though.
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May 24, 2007 19:12:02 GMT -5
Post by capybara on May 24, 2007 19:12:02 GMT -5
Actually, MHaye, Capybara and her questions about how would certain player groups behave - I didn't like this. It feels like the wrong thing to do. But what first caught my attention was url=http://psychopathgame.proboards106.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1179788620&page=3#1179871292]po st 90 [/url]. This was an out-of-the-blue vote. When called on this, she attempted to claim that her questions (addressed to Idle Thoughts) in po st 106 were her reasons.[/blockquote] Thanks for reminding me of that (I like the "attempted to claim" spin-- nice). In any case, because of that, which I'd forgotten about, and later moments, vote idle thoughts
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May 24, 2007 19:25:36 GMT -5
Post by capybara on May 24, 2007 19:25:36 GMT -5
And just as quickly, unvote idle thoughts He's testing out a lot of different players; while I seem to set off his pirate-ping for odd things, I think he's just aggressive crew trying get a foothold in something/anything meaty. I really can't get a good reading on anyone. I suspect that the scum are totally under my radar and I'm getting a lot of confused crew noise. Sorry about the quick revoke.
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May 24, 2007 19:27:19 GMT -5
Post by Mad The Swine on May 24, 2007 19:27:19 GMT -5
Well, it has (almost) come dowm to the wire, and vote I must. Ick. I'm going to go for the person posting the highest number of posts without any real content - pure fluff - and that means ... I am voting for you +++ MadThe Swine +++ have you even read the thread?
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May 24, 2007 19:59:44 GMT -5
Post by Merestil Haye on May 24, 2007 19:59:44 GMT -5
You think it's ok for a player to barely post,if at all,until the 30th and then sub him out?That will take us into the beginning of day 3, I think.If he is gonna sub out now is the time,not 3 days into the game. Day 3? The date today is 25th May. Day 1 ends at noon - a little over 10 hours from now. How long Malacandra would allow for Night is anyone's guess (unless the Lord of Mars would elucidate) but right now I'd guess about 48 hours, meaning Day 2 starts at noon on Sunday 27th. Malacandra did say he'd allow extra time because of the fact that you are on a public holiday on May 28th, (but so are we, and that's one of the few chances I'll have to actually spend a day participating) so it's reasonable to suggest that Day 2 won't end until sometime in the middle of that week, by which time he will hopefully have returned and posted something. That's why I'm against voting him out.
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May 24, 2007 20:10:04 GMT -5
Post by capybara on May 24, 2007 20:10:04 GMT -5
Ok. I've pinged some players' scumdar and seem to be collecting votes, and it's coming down to the last few hours, so I should probably put up some defense for those making last minute decisions overnight in the States/Canada (especially if lynching just needs for a player to have more votes than anyone else, rather than a 51% majority-- I can't find a statement of how this works). I think I've played pretty consistently-- I wanted to ask questions to get people talking and to get information out in the open. Some questions that I thought I could ask because they were too obviously rhetorical were apparently not too obvious-- again, either a very very stupid pirate or a crewmember who is learning the ropes and wants to know how it works and doesn't realize he/she could be mistaken for very very stupid pirates. Aunt Beast seems to have received similar grief. Occam's Razor says? And people DID get talking (so I figure whatever else happens at least information was created-- something epistemologically interesting happened)-- I don't think anyone here is making a purely random vote this evening (unfortunately for me I see to be in the radar in a "not a lot of reason but more than anyone else" sort of way for a few)-- all I can ask is that people re-read what I've actually done and said.
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May 24, 2007 20:15:17 GMT -5
Post by Blaster Master on May 24, 2007 20:15:17 GMT -5
Okay, I'm feeling a little uncomfortable about my capybara vote because of how quickly so many people jumped on; unfortunately, I'm not more suspicious of anyone else. So, for that matter, I'd really like to see a better attempt at a defense from capybara because if I am wrong with my classification of your posts, I'd like to move my vote elsewhere. [game off]And to those wanting to give Autolycus a pass until May 30... If he knew he'd be busy, he shouldn't have signed up for the game and should be polite to the rest of us and request a sub out. If he's a pirate, it's unfair that he can go into late Day two or even Day three with no vote record, no posts to analyze, and no chance to either defend or attack others. If he's town (especially if he's a power role), it's unfair to the rest of us because we have one less person on our side. Nothing personal against him, as I find his posts and threads generally to be among the more entertaining, but seriously, if you can't make at least 3-5 non-fluff posts in a Day, I think the player should be forcibly subbed--not given a free pass or lynched.[game on]
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May 24, 2007 20:18:51 GMT -5
Post by Merestil Haye on May 24, 2007 20:18:51 GMT -5
Thee current vote tally, based on the evolution since NAF's post back on page 10 (it's over 36 hours old).
3 votes : Capybara
2 votes Autolycus 2 ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies 2 Idle Thoughts 2
1 vote ArizonaTeach 1 Auntbeast 1 FCOD 1 Kyrie Eleison 1 Lakai 1 MadTheSwine 1 Storyteller0910 1
By my clock, 9 hours and 40 minutes to lynch.
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May 24, 2007 20:30:33 GMT -5
Post by capybara on May 24, 2007 20:30:33 GMT -5
Ok, I have to go find dinner, but to start to address things, I tried to explain my early fishing expedition with the ill-worded questions. Other aspects of this fishing involved trying to pressure people into talking, particularly lurkers, with questions and votes-- I jumped on as a second vote to apply more pressure which may have looked bandwagony but it was a little too early for a meaningful bandwagon, no? Later, when I have "gone after" people it was largely based on what seemed like good leads at the time-- people who seemed to be absent but perhaps lurking after initial activity (as I pegged you, you probably noticed), little bits of inconsistency (now after a couple of days I'm sure my own play/ strategy has evolved, so I'm starting to feel more generous about that), people who were quick to jump on players based on what I saw as spurious logic (including people investigating my, AuntBeast (sorry to keep dragging you into this) and Cookie's (I believe) statements-- at some points seemed to be purposefully misinterpreting people's statements but I'm starting to realize that I've probably unintentionally done the same-- we're never clear as we think we are. Basically, I suspect that everyone I've suspected is not terribly suspect and it's those I have no reading on who are succeeding. But more after dinner, if you have any more specific questions I can address. How ass-kissing is that?!
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May 24, 2007 20:32:03 GMT -5
Post by Kyrie Eleison on May 24, 2007 20:32:03 GMT -5
For reasons of my own, I compiled a vote count. I don't see any reason why I shouldn't share, so here is my completely unofficial vote tally: Poster | Vote Count | Voters | auntbeast | 1 | hockeymonkey | Kyrie Eleison | 1 | Idle Thoughts | ArizonaTeach | 1 | zuma | capybara | 4 | Blaster Master, fluiddruid, FlyingCowOfDoom, mhaye | FlyingCowOfDoom | 1 | NAF1138 | Lakai | 1 | panamajack | Autolycus | 2 | Kyrie Eleison, Mad The Swine | ComeToTheDarksideWeHaveCookies | 2 | Pleonast, Gadarene | Idle Thoughts | 1 | cowgirl | storyteller0910 | 1 | diggitcamara |
On preview, I see it differs from mhaye's, so I better review.
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Day One
May 24, 2007 21:15:23 GMT -5
Post by ArizonaTeach on May 24, 2007 21:15:23 GMT -5
Ugh. I know you're all waiting with bated breath who I'm voting for. After a review, I am willing to give capybara the benefit of the doubt as a fresh player. It does seem that the wind is blowing some, though. However, I have to cast my vote for someone who is doing weird things and should know better (and it's almost a flip of the coin here, but one is causing my AZ-Sense to buzz more than the other):
vote NAF1138.
I will likely change this to Idle Thoughts if there's no traction, though.
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Blaster Master
Mome Rath
The player formerly know as BLAM!
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Day One
May 24, 2007 21:23:28 GMT -5
Post by Blaster Master on May 24, 2007 21:23:28 GMT -5
Ok, I have to go find dinner, but to start to address things, I tried to explain my early fishing expedition with the ill-worded questions. Other aspects of this fishing involved trying to pressure people into talking, particularly lurkers, with questions and votes-- I jumped on as a second vote to apply more pressure which may have looked bandwagony but it was a little too early for a meaningful bandwagon, no? Later, when I have "gone after" people it was largely based on what seemed like good leads at the time-- people who seemed to be absent but perhaps lurking after initial activity (as I pegged you, you probably noticed), little bits of inconsistency (now after a couple of days I'm sure my own play/ strategy has evolved, so I'm starting to feel more generous about that), people who were quick to jump on players based on what I saw as spurious logic (including people investigating my, AuntBeast (sorry to keep dragging you into this) and Cookie's (I believe) statements-- at some points seemed to be purposefully misinterpreting people's statements but I'm starting to realize that I've probably unintentionally done the same-- we're never clear as we think we are. Basically, I suspect that everyone I've suspected is not terribly suspect and it's those I have no reading on who are succeeding. But more after dinner, if you have any more specific questions I can address. How ass-kissing is that?! I assume when you say "you" you mean me...? Fair enough, I can see where you're coming from if your'e town, and I'm somewhat inclined to give you the benefit of the doubt, especially because of how quickly your wagon grew after my initial vote. So, let me put it to you this way... I don't see a vote from you (unless I missed it), if you'te not a pirate, whom should we vote for instead, and why? I've seen a few other people of whom I'm nearly equally suspicious; but that's precisely it, I'm not as suspicious of them as I am of you. IIRC, you claimed this is your first time playing, but some of your moves seem VERY novice (like poorly worded questions), but some of them seem like novice scum moves as well (like putting pressure ALL over the place, like you're trying to hard to keep pressure off your fellow pirates).
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