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Post by NAF1138 on Sept 30, 2009 11:15:24 GMT -5
Nanook, here's my advice: Don't attack Kat toNight. If she gets lucky toNight, her death will herald a cabal win. If she doesn't...we lynch her toMorrow and win. Instead, aim for NAF, Cookies or MHaye. We'll need a head-start on the cabalists if we get unlucky with our Vamp guessing game. It's not a terrible plan. But my suggestion would be to add FCoD to the list of probable Cabalists. Why? Because there don't seem to be any other freemasons in the game. That doesn't make a lick of sense if FCoD is a freemason.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 30, 2009 11:26:33 GMT -5
Hate to be the bearer of confusion, but Natlaw is a liar. Probably of the Cabal variety.
He's not a wolf because I'm the last one.
Ed tried to kill Parzival on Night 1. Paul attacked CatInASuit on Night 2. By Night 3, I was all by my lonesome and I tried to kill MHaye. Not sure why that kill didn't go through. All I got back was that I had failed to kill him. The witches could have been protecting him. The Cabal could have been blocking me. MHaye may have been the beneficiary of some sort of secret role.
What I do know is that I leave for vacation tomorrow and, like Kat apparently, I've been pretty much fucked for Days, and now I can't even bust out a weak Freemason claim. I could try to help the cabal win, but I'm too cranky. So I'm delivering up Natlaw and Mhaye in what limited manner I can to whoever wants to use my info, along with the actions of my cursed faction, and y'all can have fun sorting that all out. My vote shall stay on Natlaw for his affront to true wolves everywhere.
The wolf secret power might as well have been the ability to get ourselves thoroughly killed off in pairs at the beginning of the game. What our secret power really was died with Ed on Night 1. If he targeted someone for a kill who he could actually kill and who had a power, he could have potentially taken over that power.
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Post by The Real FCOD on Sept 30, 2009 11:28:51 GMT -5
Boy, I can't wait for MHaye's claim.
--FCOD
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Post by The Real FCOD on Sept 30, 2009 11:44:58 GMT -5
If Cookies is truthful, Natlaw is likely Cabal trying to trick us into keeping him alive to prevent the Cabal from winning. That would be a pretty good gambit.
But what if Cookies is lying and is actually a Cabalist, trying to trick us into keeping her alive? If we believe her, the correct action is to kill Natlaw, (believing him to be cabal) and Kat, but this hands the win to the Cabal!
Therefore, I think the only safe play is to keep Kat alive, lynch Cookies today and Nanook vigs Natlaw. This prevents the Cabal from winning since Vampire Kat will be alive, and hopefully eliminates a Cabalist and the last Wolf. Granted, Kat will kill someone during the night, but if we don't attempt to eliminate the wolf we'll have two night kills instead of just one.
What does everyone else think?
Ugh...unless Kat AND Natlaw or Kat AND Cookies are in the Cabal and there is no other Vampire, which means that killing the last wolf opens up the Cabal win. Fuck this, my head hurts. I'm gonna go put on my tinfoil hat and cry in the corner.
--FCOD
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Post by The Real FCOD on Sept 30, 2009 11:48:01 GMT -5
Also, I have to leave in 15 minutes to go to the dentist. I don't know if I'll make it back for the end of the day. GRR!
--FCOD
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Post by NAF1138 on Sept 30, 2009 11:51:15 GMT -5
I think that vigging Cookies toNight and lynching Natlaw is going to net us at least 2 scum and that's what matters most. Right now it will be a bitch and a half to try to get everyone organized and together on the move away from Natlaw. I don't think Cookies' claim really changes much toDay.
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Post by NAF1138 on Sept 30, 2009 11:52:25 GMT -5
Vigging Kat toNight is just as good as cookies. That was the main point of my last post. We shouldn't let these late claims mess with our heads too much. For now it's all the same and Nanook should do what he thinks is best toNight.
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Post by The Real FCOD on Sept 30, 2009 11:55:03 GMT -5
OK, and if Natlaw is the wolf and Kat is a vampire gets lucky and kills a Witch toNight, we lose.
--FCOD
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Post by NAF1138 on Sept 30, 2009 12:01:17 GMT -5
So you are saying we should kill Kat leaving a wolf (either Natlaw or Cookies) in the same position? It comes down to no matter what we do.
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Post by NAF1138 on Sept 30, 2009 12:01:41 GMT -5
Sorry, I left out the word luck in that last post. It comes down to luck.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Sept 30, 2009 12:05:11 GMT -5
No, he's saying we should leave Kat alive, protect the Witches, Lynch Nanook and Vig Cookies.
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Post by NAF1138 on Sept 30, 2009 12:08:25 GMT -5
No, he's saying we should leave Kat alive, protect the Witches, Lynch Nanook and Vig Cookies. Oh, well then. That's a brilliant plan. We should do that.
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Post by Death By Irony on Sept 30, 2009 12:17:43 GMT -5
Lynch Natlaw the claimed Wolf, you mean. Nanook's claimed Vig.
I suggest we lynch Natlaw and have Nanook target Kat. That way we confirm (or deny) Nanook's claim.
If Sister Coyote is telling the truth, the Witches are safe toNight, as they can still protect one of their own and Sister Coyote can protect the other one.
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Post by BillMc on Sept 30, 2009 12:18:41 GMT -5
No, he's saying we should leave Kat alive, protect the Witches, Lynch Nanook and Vig Cookies. Nanook??
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Post by Sister Coyote on Sept 30, 2009 12:24:21 GMT -5
Er, sorry. Natlaw.
I can has the stupids today.
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Post by The Real FCOD on Sept 30, 2009 12:25:01 GMT -5
If Sister Coyote is telling the truth, the Witches are safe toNight, as they can still protect one of their own and Sister Coyote can protect the other one. posting from blackberry at dentist's waiting rm... THE WITCH DOCTOR IS NOT A DOCTOR. the target dies, then resurrects a DAY LATER. if there are no wolves or undead and only one witch WE WILL LOSE whether the dead witch will resurrect or not. --FCOD
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Post by Sister Coyote on Sept 30, 2009 12:26:00 GMT -5
Except that as my power works, we would still end up with only one Live Witch in the morning if we kill all of the so-far claimed Scum, and that would mean a Cabal win. Because my power does not take effect until the Day when the person's faction would normally be revealed.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Sept 30, 2009 12:29:27 GMT -5
Damn, FCOD, you posted less than a minute before I did...
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Post by Natlaw on Sept 30, 2009 12:47:30 GMT -5
Hate to be the bearer of confusion, but Natlaw is a liar. Probably of the Cabal variety. He's not a wolf because I'm the last one. Ed tried to kill Parzival on Night 1. Paul attacked CatInASuit on Night 2. By Night 3, I was all by my lonesome and I tried to kill MHaye. Not sure why that kill didn't go through. All I got back was that I had failed to kill him. The witches could have been protecting him. The Cabal could have been blocking me. MHaye may have been the beneficiary of some sort of secret role. So if your Wolf kill was blocked last Night and our semi-confirmed vigilante didn't kill, how did we end up with two dead people? Also pedescribe claimed the Witches investigated Idle Thoughts, so with peeker dead they couldn't have been protecting. And why didn't bufftabby die? Something smells here and it ain't my fur: Unvote: Natlaw Vote: Cabalist Cookies
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 30, 2009 12:52:42 GMT -5
Parzival was lying about having anything to do with bufftabby on Night 1.
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Post by Merestil Haye on Sept 30, 2009 12:58:50 GMT -5
Parzival was lying about having anything to do with bufftabby on Night 1. The obvious implication is that you are claiming Parzival was a Wolf. Was Parzival a Wolf? Remember when you answer that the Mod will tell us in about an hour.
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Post by BillMc on Sept 30, 2009 13:11:27 GMT -5
It doesn't look like enough folk will be around to prevent a natlaw lynch, but fingers crossed that Kat doesn't kill one of Pede and I and hand the game to the Cabal.
So please resurrect me SisC.
And I guess we need Nanook not to vig Kat -- we need to keep her alive to avoid a Cabal win.
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Post by The Real FCOD on Sept 30, 2009 13:12:27 GMT -5
I'm back from the dentist. Ow.
Kat!, who did you kill last night?
--FCOD
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Post by Natlaw on Sept 30, 2009 13:14:38 GMT -5
Parzival was lying about having anything to do with bufftabby on Night 1. You expect us to believe Parzival would setup up bufftabby as a potential Vampire? Both hockeyguy and Nanook came to that conclusion so don't tell me a pack of Wolves wouldn't think of it. We have a small hour here to lynch a Cabal here people! Remember if I'm alive and can trust town to eliminate the Cabal first, I don't have to take a Witch to ensure that. But if you must lynch me, the wolves will feast on BillMc and I again invite the Undead to take a drink from pedescribe. With only one Witch alive, Town must deal with the Cabal first before they can even think about killing us. And while we're still alive, we have a chance to win.
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Post by Merestil Haye on Sept 30, 2009 13:21:05 GMT -5
Since I'm the only one that hasn't claimed (Bill having leapfrogged me, but that's ok) here it is. I don't want to hold it up longer.
I'm a Scotsman.
Och aye, the noo.
Sorry, now that I've got that out of the way, I promise no more faux Scottish accents.
All I can say is that I'm as surprised as any about DarkCookies' claim to have attacked me, since my power did not trigger - we'd all have known it if it had.
Let me finish developing the train of thought re DarkCookies' claim and I'll be back.
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Post by Death By Irony on Sept 30, 2009 13:34:09 GMT -5
Natlaw, if you're the last Wolf then how would the Wolves have a kill toNight?
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Post by Merestil Haye on Sept 30, 2009 13:44:54 GMT -5
As for who to lynch, the choice is between Kat, DarkCookies and Natlaw. The problem is that one of DarkCookies and Natlaw appear to be lying. Whichever one is lying, the lie could be either a false alignment , or that there is one Wolf. - If the lie is a false alignment then what faction is the liar in? Not Town (they should not be lying about this) and not Vampire (what's the point? The last Wolf and a Vampire are just about the same to the game now.) That would make the liar Cabal.
- If they're lying about being the last Wolf, then we still have two Wolves, and lynching Kat might be beneficial (to slow down the rate of attrition by eliminating a Night killer.)
I've decided to Vote: Natlaw . If Natlaw is lying about his alignment, he's almost certainly Cabal. No Towns,man should ever make such a false claim, and as for a Vampire saying this, see above. If, on the other hand, he's lying about some other part of his claim, there might still be another Wolf and he's just trying to cover for his packmate's kill Tonight. In either case, we can afford to lynch him Tonight.
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Post by Natlaw on Sept 30, 2009 13:58:26 GMT -5
Natlaw, if you're the last Wolf then how would the Wolves have a kill toNight? Well look at all the detectives showing up at the last moment. Although I would have liked a kill-from-beyond-the-grave, reality turns out to be much simpler . In either case, we can afford to lynch him Tonight. The question is not whether you can afford to lynch me, but if you think you have a chance against the Cabal with only one Witch around. To recap: The Wolves will be killing BillMc. The Undead should be killing pedescribe. Town has to kill Cabal and keep us alive. Cabal should drag this out until we can reduce Town to more bite size portions.
May the Wolves snatch victory from the jaws of defeat! /me howls
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