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Post by Captain Pinkies on Jun 7, 2010 23:33:08 GMT -5
CAPTAIN PINKIES you have stepped forward and said you are HOC and you are a sort of Inventor or something. You also say that you are unable to designate a primary clan. Is this the case for just you or does that go for other HOC's also? My PM says this is true for all HoC members [ I'm curious because if it's for all.... all of us ascendants could just join one clan of 4 and make it our primary... if on roll call next Day the clan only shows 3 primary members then that would point to a HOC being in that clan. You know I've been suspicious about you from Day one and now it apears that I was right to be. I still don't get the impression that you are telling the full story but can live with that for the time being. My PM tells me that I will show up in clan role calls, I assume this is true for other members...
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Post by moodymitchy on Jun 7, 2010 23:54:31 GMT -5
CAPTAIN PINKIES you have stepped forward and said you are HOC and you are a sort of Inventor or something. You also say that you are unable to designate a primary clan. Is this the case for just you or does that go for other HOC's also? My PM says this is true for all HoC members [ I'm curious because if it's for all.... all of us ascendants could just join one clan of 4 and make it our primary... if on roll call next Day the clan only shows 3 primary members then that would point to a HOC being in that clan. You know I've been suspicious about you from Day one and now it apears that I was right to be. I still don't get the impression that you are telling the full story but can live with that for the time being. My PM tells me that I will show up in clan role calls, I assume this is true for other members... Damn I knew these guys were just to clever for that
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Post by guiri on Jun 8, 2010 2:07:47 GMT -5
I'm curious because if it's for all.... all of us ascendants could just join one clan of 4 and make it our primary... if on roll call next Day the clan only shows 3 primary members then that would point to a HOC being in that clan. You know I've been suspicious about you from Day one and now it apears that I was right to be. I still don't get the impression that you are telling the full story but can live with that for the time being. My PM tells me that I will show up in clan role calls, I assume this is true for other members... Ahem, your PM states: As you are playing your own game here, you cannot nominate a Primary Clan. You may negotiate with other players and pretend to join their clans, and if you do so you will count towards that clan's player limit of four while you are alive. Given that the clan roll call shows the clan name and the number of Primary members, you will not show up. I have no solid confirmation on Story... I have not been able to confirm anything on him.. It seems that poor timmy also got my investigation... But, but, but... Didn't you say: well here is the story's wincon.... I am a night HoC investigator..... That's sort of like saying: "I'm an investigator. I investigated Story and here's his wincon for proof". so here is the deal, I am not threat to anyone but a HoC member and the Master of the Deck... I do have powers and if I live I am going to use them to try and fullfill my wincon.... How can you help us find and kill the MotDoD? How did you expect this claim would help you fulfill your wincon? You will be lynched, do you win by getting lynched? Which doesn't involve anyone in a clan..... I am not in any clans, nor have I been. While Supersize may not have been created as a clan, it appears on the clan roll and I understand you were involved at some stage. Win Condition: You win when you are alive and all other members of the House of Chains, as well as the Master of the Deck are dead. At that point, you will ascend and be removed from the game. Your win is non-exclusive to a clan win. Does non-exclusive mean that a HoC can win the game, "ascend" and go off to Hockey heaven, leaving the rest of us behind and that a clan can also win the game at a later stage? Or does non-exclusive mean that both a HoC and a Clan can reach their wincon at the same time? Powers: Since you are playing your own game here [...]you will be revealed as unclanned to them. Fortunately, [...] they know you have them as well.) An impressive array of powers. Did you forget to post your actual powers? The person we should be finding is the MoD because they are the biggest threat to all of us and is whom I beleive is performing our day kills.... Why do you think this is the case? We all need to kill the MotDoD but given last Night's deaths, I'm not sure I agree that the Day Killer is also the MotDoD. Why do you think the MotDoD killed Idle and OreDigger? Vote: Captain Pinkies
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Post by peekercpa on Jun 8, 2010 5:49:31 GMT -5
hey all, sorry I have been out, IRL stuff has been beckoning my attention... A couple of points.... I have no solid confirmation on Story... I have not been able to confirm anything on him.. It seems that poor timmy also got my investigation... so here is the deal, I am not threat to anyone but a HoC member and the Master of the Deck... I do have powers and if I live I am going to use them to try and fullfill my wincon.... Which doesn't involve anyone in a clan..... I am not in any clans, nor have I been. I figure the best way to try and stay alive is to provide you with the truth and information. And I will continue to do so, because that is the way I roll... I know you need me out of the game in order to win, but I can leave the game other than being lynched or killed.... [/color]There are many more peeps who are a bigger threat than me... Because I am not one... More to come... [/quote] bolding, emphasis and coloring mine. ok, so you are playing your own game, which i kind of figure there are about 20 or so others doing the same. and you will use your powers not to help anyone in a clan, right? so we need you out of the game to win, right? are you going to do like a reverse pentacostal kind of thing if you are not lynched or killed?[/color] btw, if this sucker last fifty Days that would be a record. woot woot. i think i like where my vote is just fine.
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Post by fisheroo on Jun 8, 2010 6:25:50 GMT -5
well here is the story's wincon.... I am a night HoC investigator..... Outright lie. [blue]Vote pinkies[/blue] Still not the best candidate.
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Post by fisheroo on Jun 8, 2010 6:33:59 GMT -5
and i know that one of the other chainers is female. why would drain be voting me because i was a town vig in another game? If it isn't drain, and they are female, I have a pretty good idea who it is. It was obvious on the first day.
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Post by fisheroo on Jun 8, 2010 6:39:13 GMT -5
If you are wondering why I have been quiet, I've been keeping my head down until I can contribute something of value.
We're getting there.
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Post by peekercpa on Jun 8, 2010 12:24:15 GMT -5
no bs question, and i may have already asked this once but ....
what is the size limit on the number of messages in both your in box and outbox?
i've got somewhere north of 800 or so. and i have been deleting like a mad man. crud, just getting rid of the nonsense that gets cc'ed to "the authors" (aka, forkswihtonetine) took like ten minutes.
just kind of curious.
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Post by Captain Pinkies on Jun 8, 2010 12:26:50 GMT -5
My PM tells me that I will show up in clan role calls, I assume this is true for other members... Ahem, your PM states: Given that the clan roll call shows the clan name and the number of Primary members, you will not show up. I am certain I show up in the clan roles.. I received this as a clarification on the issue..... We Authors don't recall if we've made this specifically clear, but while your joining of clans will show you as a number within the clan rolls. I have powers, that can be used to find them. Well, I wasn't expecting Story to come after me and say that I was the fountain of rumors.... At first I thought that I could use the information I got during the night and bluff that I knew for sure he was that I knew he was HoC.. But soon realized (like right after I did that) it was a bad strategy and that my best course of action was to be forthright and try and provide information that helped everyone. And try and convince peeps that my skillz can be of use until we can take out the MotDoD and the remaining HoC member... umm.. I never joined it as clan, it was not setup as a clan and yes I have talked with people.. We all have to.. It is much easier to talk in a forum that in pm's.. at least it is for me... so I am not sure what your point is... Well I can tell you that if I was in clan, and working with one exclusively then that would be all over the back channels, I guarentee that.... my point is that I have no allegences to any clans, my objective is not to hurt any clans my objective is to remove the other HoC member and the MotDoD... and that my skillz can be useful to that point. And once I acheive my objective the rest of you can take each other out, as having HoC and MotDoD removed from the game will be have been acheived... why thank you.... actually thank the MOD's as they gave them to me... And I see no reason to post them here, as it gives the MotDoD information that they do not need.... Others know what my powers are via what Skeez revealed... They understand that we can work together and that I can be alley... The person we should be finding is the MoD because they are the biggest threat to all of us and is whom I beleive is performing our day kills.... I am beleive that the MotDoD has their own wincon and cannot join clans, because it could be a unfair advantage. So having the MotDoD be the day killer makes sense..... I do think they most likely have some powers as do the HoC...
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Post by Total Ullz on Jun 8, 2010 12:29:47 GMT -5
and i know that one of the other chainers is female. why would drain be voting me because i was a town vig in another game? If it isn't drain, and they are female, I have a pretty good idea who it is. It was obvious on the first day. Would you like a sweater to go with that lovely magic bag of yours?
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Post by peekercpa on Jun 8, 2010 12:32:05 GMT -5
neta: forkswihtonetine = forkswithonetine
jeebus.
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Post by Captain Pinkies on Jun 8, 2010 13:21:09 GMT -5
hey all, sorry I have been out, IRL stuff has been beckoning my attention... A couple of points.... I have no solid confirmation on Story... I have not been able to confirm anything on him.. It seems that poor timmy also got my investigation... so here is the deal, I am not threat to anyone but a HoC member and the Master of the Deck... I do have powers and if I live I am going to use them to try and fullfill my wincon.... Which doesn't involve anyone in a clan..... I am not in any clans, nor have I been. I figure the best way to try and stay alive is to provide you with the truth and information. And I will continue to do so, because that is the way I roll... I know you need me out of the game in order to win, but I can leave the game other than being lynched or killed.... [/color]There are many more peeps who are a bigger threat than me... Because I am not one... More to come... [/quote] bolding, emphasis and coloring mine. ok, so you are playing your own game, which i kind of figure there are about 20 or so others doing the same. and you will use your powers not to help anyone in a clan, right? so we need you out of the game to win, right? are you going to do like a reverse pentacostal kind of thing if you are not lynched or killed?[/color] btw, if this sucker last fifty Days that would be a record. woot woot. i think i like where my vote is just fine.[/quote] Yes, you need me out of the game, but there are 4 ways to make that happen.. And if you we work together this can be a win / win situation.... I will work with everyone to take out MotDoD and the other HoC member (and others if they are working for them). If you help me stay alive and free to perform night actions.. I will do so for everyone benefit..
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Post by peekercpa on Jun 8, 2010 13:21:39 GMT -5
I am beleive that the MotDoD has their own wincon and cannot join clans, because it could be a unfair advantage. So having the MotDoD be the day killer makes sense..... I do think they most likely have some powers as do the HoC... <snipped> ok, i'll nibble. why would you believe this? do you have some information or is it just your supposition? i mean you are a chainer, right? and i've got to figure that you folks were just a buch of survivors with solo wincons, or so you would have us believe. but i have to say this; to have a whole slew, at least three and as many as five (more?) win stealers with no coordinated way to address this threat makes no fracking sense. even less so if you were a cohesive unit. toss in an uber bad dude and even the pigs that fly around my house will crash and burn. what in the world am i missing?
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Post by peekercpa on Jun 8, 2010 13:24:01 GMT -5
bolding, emphasis and coloring mine. ok, so you are playing your own game, which i kind of figure there are about 20 or so others doing the same. and you will use your powers not to help anyone in a clan, right? so we need you out of the game to win, right? are you going to do like a reverse pentacostal kind of thing if you are not lynched or killed?[/color] btw, if this sucker last fifty Days that would be a record. woot woot. i think i like where my vote is just fine.[/quote] Yes, you need me out of the game, but there are 4 ways to make that happen.. And if you we work together this can be a win / win situation.... I will work with everyone to take out MotDoD and the other HoC member (and others if they are working for them). If you help me stay alive and free to perform night actions.. I will do so for everyone benefit.. [/quote] ok, i won't nibble. who the hell is the master of the deck? give me that and i will move my vote in a second. or is this a case of trust me?
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Post by NAF1138 on Jun 8, 2010 13:37:21 GMT -5
no bs question, and i may have already asked this once but .... what is the size limit on the number of messages in both your in box and outbox? i've got somewhere north of 800 or so. and i have been deleting like a mad man. crud, just getting rid of the nonsense that gets cc'ed to "the authors" (aka, forkswihtonetine) took like ten minutes. just kind of curious. As far as I know, there isn't one.
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Post by Captain Pinkies on Jun 8, 2010 13:38:43 GMT -5
I don't know who the remianing HoC member is nor do I know who MotDoD is yet... But check with your allies, I have the ability to find out....
No, I am giving you enough information that you can verify that I am being forthright, and we all know that if I am providing bullshit that the back channels will be calling me on it... and will be promptly dealt with... And if someone does start something that is not true they will be dealt with... So if I want to stay alive I need to be on the up and up... If I am not, I am dead... I have no interest or motivation in harming any clan members... which removes me as a threat, I am willing to provide *everyone* the same information on HoC and the MotDoD..
I am offering myself up as a tool to be used in a win / win situation.... There are better options for the lynch today.... If we work together I can get you closer to acheiving your wincon....
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Post by Captain Pinkies on Jun 8, 2010 13:49:50 GMT -5
<== passes a round of Will to Live
Ingredients to use: 1.0 oz Amaretto 0.33 oz Cognac 3.0 tbsp Vanilla Ice Cream 1.0 oz Mandarine Napoleon Orange Liqueur
Directions: Mix together with crushed ice in a glass and garnish with mint leaves
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Post by peekercpa on Jun 8, 2010 13:53:59 GMT -5
what would be your proposal, pinkies?
cause i don't have any allies. i've got some folks that i need to be eliminated, you are one of them. and a whole pee pot of others that don't seem to be cooperating very well or at least appear to be pursuing an agenda other than peek wins.
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Post by peekercpa on Jun 8, 2010 13:56:10 GMT -5
I don't know who the remianing HoC member is nor do I know who MotDoD is yet... <snipped> so there is only one remaing chain other than you? how do you know this?
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Jun 8, 2010 14:04:04 GMT -5
How do you propose to serve the common good in public, Pinkies? Regardless of how productive it could be in the short-term, I really doubt people are going to come into this thread and say, "I think you should investigate, Player X." or "I think you should protect Player Y." because such statements would potentially disclose alliances, or be complete red herrings in the interest of protecting alliances.
If such discussions don't happen in public, how are you going to decide between three private PMs that all think you should use a power on a different target in a way that is fair and balanced and transparent?
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Post by Captain Pinkies on Jun 8, 2010 15:14:32 GMT -5
Great questions Cookies and Peeker...
You need to understand and accept that I can not have an alliance with any specific clan, if enough of us work together we should be able to determine our common emenies are and we can deal with.. Each night we can collectively determine the best target (by vote) and I will perform an action on them.. All I have is my word and transparentency with my actions... I revel the results of my actions each morning... I will not revel any information that is clan specific. So everyone is on equal ground...
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Post by Captain Pinkies on Jun 8, 2010 15:19:34 GMT -5
Peekers,
I must admit that the number of HoC members is based off a limit I have on my kill action.
3) You can attempt to kill any player of your choice. You have a maximum of 3 charges of this power. However, this kill will only work on a fellow House of Chains member. If you target any player who is not a member of the House of Chains, the kill fizzles, and you find out nothing about your target. If you target a fellow member, and nothing else interferes with your kill, you will be informed that your kill was successful and which member of the House of Chains you took out. Note that regardless of outcome, you will use up one of your charges each time you make a kill attempt.
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Post by Pleonast on Jun 8, 2010 15:35:29 GMT -5
How many charges do you have left?
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Post by Captain Pinkies on Jun 8, 2010 15:56:40 GMT -5
I used other actions night one and night two.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Jun 8, 2010 15:58:54 GMT -5
Great questions Cookies and Peeker... You need to understand and accept that I can not have an alliance with any specific clan, if enough of us work together we should be able to determine our common emenies are and we can deal with.. Each night we can collectively determine the best target (by vote) and I will perform an action on them.. All I have is my word and transparentency with my actions... I revel the results of my actions each morning... I will not revel any information that is clan specific. So everyone is on equal ground... Understanding or accepting anything about you is moot. Your hypothetical collective determination by vote is the problem. You may not have an official alliance with any clans, but if there is a clan or collaborative group of clans that manages to secure enough votes as to who your target should be, if you select that target, you are functionally screwing over whatever players/clans are not in the majority. That is not much of an incentive to participate in your proposed transparent exercise considering that each of us likely has a short list of people that we might trust and a considerably longer list of people we probably don't trust.
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Post by Pleonast on Jun 8, 2010 16:38:39 GMT -5
Here's an idea. Pinkies has claimed the ability to kill members of the House of Chains. Let him continue to live on one condition: that a member of the HoC dies each Night. That gives him the chance to be useful for us, at least temporarily, since one HoC killing another reduces our lynch burden by one.
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Post by BillMc on Jun 8, 2010 16:48:44 GMT -5
Here's an idea. Pinkies has claimed the ability to kill members of the House of Chains. Let him continue to live on one condition: that a member of the HoC dies each Night. That gives him the chance to be useful for us, at least temporarily, since one HoC killing another reduces our lynch burden by one. An admirable proposal. Tho with Normal protecting Story, it does kind of limit Cap's targets.
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Post by Captain Pinkies on Jun 8, 2010 16:57:16 GMT -5
Great questions Cookies and Peeker... You need to understand and accept that I can not have an alliance with any specific clan, if enough of us work together we should be able to determine our common emenies are and we can deal with.. Each night we can collectively determine the best target (by vote) and I will perform an action on them.. All I have is my word and transparentency with my actions... I revel the results of my actions each morning... I will not revel any information that is clan specific. So everyone is on equal ground... Understanding or accepting anything about you is moot. Your hypothetical collective determination by vote is the problem. You may not have an official alliance with any clans, but if there is a clan or collaborative group of clans that manages to secure enough votes as to who your target should be, if you select that target, you are functionally screwing over whatever players/clans are not in the majority. That is not much of an incentive to participate in your proposed transparent exercise considering that each of us likely has a short list of people that we might trust and a considerably longer list of people we probably don't trust. Not if I do not perform an action that will benefit one clan over another. My activities are centered around me removing HoC members and the finding the MotDoD. That can been done without causing harm or giving one clan leverage over another.
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Post by moodymitchy on Jun 8, 2010 17:09:15 GMT -5
Here's an idea. Pinkies has claimed the ability to kill members of the House of Chains. Let him continue to live on one condition: that a member of the HoC dies each Night. That gives him the chance to be useful for us, at least temporarily, since one HoC killing another reduces our lynch burden by one. Though I feel this would benifit the majority of us.... I do feel that PEEKERCPA will say that anyone dying apart from him is progress to his wincon. I don't though see the harm in letting him have another Day . I need HOC's dead to stand any chance so the sooner they are gone the better. If CAPTAIN PINKIES can shoot one for us... then we already have our next one gift wrapped for us.
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Post by peekercpa on Jun 8, 2010 17:23:14 GMT -5
Understanding or accepting anything about you is moot. Your hypothetical collective determination by vote is the problem. You may not have an official alliance with any clans, but if there is a clan or collaborative group of clans that manages to secure enough votes as to who your target should be, if you select that target, you are functionally screwing over whatever players/clans are not in the majority. That is not much of an incentive to participate in your proposed transparent exercise considering that each of us likely has a short list of people that we might trust and a considerably longer list of people we probably don't trust. Not if I do not perform an action that will benefit one clan over another. My activities are centered around me removing HoC members and the finding the MotDoD. That can been done without causing harm or giving one clan leverage over another. ok, i'll nibble some more. who would be your target and how in the world do i know that i can trust you to take out that target and not someone else? how do i ascertain that your target benefits my clan above others? matter of fact that is kind of oxymoronic at this point. knowing that i have one two or three buds and there is like fifteen people that want me dead. ok, i'll play. i'll move my vote on the condition that you do whatever i say regardless. seems fair enough. unvote pinkies
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