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Post by Archangel on Jul 8, 2010 17:31:28 GMT -5
Yes, Bill, I saw your "blank" post, which appeared to me as, well, a large blank post, and didn't see Total Lost's name on the list at all, until the white thing was explained to me.
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Post by Captain Pinkies on Jul 8, 2010 18:45:14 GMT -5
Ok, Pinkies, to further clarify: You are voting me because: 1. You think scum would have voted FCoD yesterday. 2. I am still alive and I voted yesterday. 3. You are making an assumption that white posting = not scum, why you are making this assumption is beyond me, I've seen nothing in the rules or description to indicate what white text might mean. 4. I switched my vote after a power role claim, with only a few hours left in the Day, to a player who already had a vote. I did give a reason, which I will explain further: coming on too strongly is often scummy, and I have used it as reasoning to lynch scum in the past (cite: Cecil Pond, KellyCriterion). It stems from the fact that scum knows who is scum and who is not scum, and sometimes they are unable to gauge effectively their tone when they are manufacturing cases. They come off as overagressive or overdefensive because they are trying to make their cases seem genuine, and substituing agressiveness for honesty since it is lacking. Sometimes they are overaggressive town, and sometimes they are scum. You pays your money and you takes your chances. Out of all of the cases that I saw that could have been made yesterday, the one against FCoD was my next choice after NAF, it had the greatest likelihood, IMO of producing a scum lynch. Just a question, since you didn't bother to answer it when I extended it to all. Why didn't you vote yesterday? And in your special case, why did you only post fluff yesterDay? Did you really have nothing at all of substance to contribute? Wow... I read your post about why you voted and I feel exactly the same way about my vote on you... So I'll pays my money with you On day one I typically vote later than earlier. I tend to read the dialog and see the dynamics.... And yes I have a tendency to post some fluff, yesterday being day 1, I had no information to provide and there was not a lot of dialog happening.... I did post why I didn't vote. Perhaps you should stop skimming. So at this point I am happy with my vote
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Post by Mister Blockey on Jul 8, 2010 22:50:48 GMT -5
Current Vote Count:
Redskeezix (2): NAF, Pinkies Archangel (4): Redskeezix, Boozahol Squid, BillMC, Total Lost
Day ends 2pm Eastern Friday.
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Post by Pollux Oil on Jul 8, 2010 22:56:46 GMT -5
Mini games are hard for me to place votes because there's not as much talk and not much else to go on.
That said.
Vote Archangel
I agree with what Total Lost said about her. Plus, she's been here since she achieved 4 votes and didn't really say anything in her defense, plus she didn't claim anything despite it being close to Day end.
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Post by Merestil Haye on Jul 9, 2010 12:47:32 GMT -5
I apologise.
I've been wishing the whole day that my PC was in the back room (where it would be facing east) rather than in front of a west-facing window where I can feel the blowtorch sun overheating the room.
I'm really not sure who to vote for. The case against Archangel seems to be (basically) that (a) she didn't vote yesterday, and (b) she didn't defend herself earlier Today.
I've already noted that I don't see her explanation for not voting as particularly scummy; it was also proffered by Pollux Oil and Captain Pinkies as reasons for their nonvoting. I don't like the latter argument either, because she may have missed two of the votes and thought it was 2-2.
Against that, you have to ask why she hasn't been quoting the posts, or highlighting them; also, she's the only Day 1 nonvoter to have repeated the offence. (Pedescribe and I haven't voted yet, but at least I had a vote.)
On balance I'm not convinced with the case.
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Post by Merestil Haye on Jul 9, 2010 12:59:48 GMT -5
My big problem is that, like a couple of others, the person who has most made me think "SS" is NAF, and he's claimed Doc. Boozy Squid (at least) has not voted NAF Today because of the claim. However, that is an easy fake claim because it's so untestable. So my suspicion of NAF hasn't been ameliorated.
However, Boozy's "NAF is scummiest but I'm not going to vote him because of the claim" also strikes me as somewhat "SS-like"
[size=4=Vote Boozahol Squid SI[/size].
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Post by Merestil Haye on Jul 9, 2010 13:00:21 GMT -5
Vote Boozahol Squid SI.
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Post by Mister Blockey on Jul 9, 2010 13:06:42 GMT -5
As Day 2 draws to a close the only consensus seems to be a bit of confusion over the newly glowing white players and what it all may mean. The town decides that confusion is as good of a tell as any and group together to toss the most confused onto the stone of souls. As Archangel is tossed on the stone flashes pure blackness for a moment.
An investigation of Archangel's affairs reveals an assortment of black powders and a number of chunks of obsidian. Archangel was a black chromamancer, the most unreliable school of combat against the soul stainers. Archangel: Black Chromamancer (special vig) town is dead.
Final Vote Count:
Redskeezix (2): NAF, Pinkies Archangel (5): Redskeezix, Boozahol Squid, BillMC, Total Lost, Pollux
It is now Night 2. Due to circumstances out of my control I won't be able to start Day 3 until some time late Sunday afternoon. Please all of you actually have your actions sent in before then.
The Living:
1) MHaye 2) Boozahol Squid 3) redskeezix 4) BillMC 6) Pedescribe 7) Total Lost 9) Captain Pinkies
11) Pollux Oil 12) NAF
The Dead:
5) FCOD : Town Necromancer 8) Mental Guy: Town Chromamancer 10) Archangel : Town Black Chromamancer
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Post by Boozahol Squid, P.I. on Jul 9, 2010 13:18:06 GMT -5
Wait, what's 'SS' now, and why am I it?
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Post by Merestil Haye on Jul 9, 2010 13:22:41 GMT -5
Wait, what's 'SS' now, and why am I it? SS = Soul Stainer. It's the in-game term for the Mafia. Why are you one? Random selection by Mr. Blockey.
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Post by NAF1138 on Jul 9, 2010 17:39:17 GMT -5
Wait, what's 'SS' now, and why am I it? SS = Soul Stainer. It's the in-game term for the Mafia. Why are you one? Random selection by Mr. Blockey. Excelent post MHaye. Made me glad I decided to take a 10 minute break at work and read the boards instead of just working straight through to the weekend. (Once my boss gets back from vacation I won't be so crazed. I hope.)
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Post by Boozahol Squid, P.I. on Jul 10, 2010 0:46:59 GMT -5
Oh, of course, sorry.
I get where you're coming from, I suppose. I've been known to push for continuing the lynch of someone I found scummy before, despite an uncounterclaimed doc call. After all, a doc isn't nearly as useful a role as a vig or a detective. And, particularly in the early game, it's a fair claim for the scum, where a newb doc might choose to not counterclaim for a while, trusting to future revelations to out the fake doc. That being said, this is a tiny game. There are only three scum. I just am not seeing scum making a fake claim early in the game that would be so obviously outed. And I'm definitely not willing to put my neck on the line to run head-long into a doc claim without more evidence than "You seem to be acting scummy."
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Post by Boozahol Squid, P.I. on Jul 10, 2010 0:50:21 GMT -5
Speaking of the small size of the game, we've had 3 town dead. There's 9 of us left, leaving a 6-3 ratio. Tomorrow morning, we'll be at 5-3, meaning we'll be at LyLo, unless NAF outguesses the scum, or there's a second vig who guesses correctly. That being said, 4-3 isn't actually that much worse than 5-3, so I might suggest that anyone with a Vig power use it tonight.
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Post by BillMc on Jul 10, 2010 6:24:15 GMT -5
I'm assuming since it is night that my white posting restriction has expired.... There are only three scum. I don't recall Blockey stating that there are exactly three scum. While in a game of 12, I wouldn't expect more than 3, there does not appear to have been any public evidence to support your assertion that there are three. scummy slip?
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Post by Mister Blockey on Jul 10, 2010 8:19:42 GMT -5
Posting restrictions do not expire in this game unless I explicitly tell you so via pm.
I will forgive BillMC this once
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Post by Boozahol Squid, P.I. on Jul 10, 2010 8:46:49 GMT -5
I don't recall Blockey stating that there are exactly three scum. While in a game of 12, I wouldn't expect more than 3, there does not appear to have been any public evidence to support your assertion that there are three. scummy slip? A revelation, of sorts, but not scummy. And definitely intentional.
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Post by Mister Blockey on Jul 10, 2010 19:33:55 GMT -5
With less than 24 hours left of night I still only have half of my night actions in.
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Post by Mister Blockey on Jul 11, 2010 17:49:21 GMT -5
Day 3 comes far more peacefully... and far more colorfully.
Total Lost is now glowing a soft green. BillMC, on the other hand is a quite strong red, a condition Pollux Oil shares as well.
Day 3 will end at 9 pm eastern on Thursday.
The Living:
1) MHaye 2) Boozahol Squid 3) redskeezix 4) BillMC 6) Pedescribe / Sinjin 7) Total Lost 9) Captain Pinkies 11) Pollux Oil 12) NAF
The Dead:
5) FCOD : Town Necromancer 8) Mental Guy: Town Chromamancer 10) Archangel : Town Black Chromamancer
(Pedescribe had to quit, Sinjin replaces him)
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Post by BillMc on Jul 11, 2010 19:21:37 GMT -5
Hmm, I knew I should have kept out of the sun!
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Post by Boozahol Squid, P.I. on Jul 11, 2010 20:47:54 GMT -5
With the Day dawning, and no kills in place, I'm in an awkward situation. I was really expecting us to be at LyLo tonight, based upon the information I've received. That's why I made some bold statements last night: if I awoke dead toDay, the Town would need to know what the deal was.
That being said, I don't want to get my ass lynched now because of my foresight (and leaving us in a worse situation for tomorrow).
I am the Prismatic Refractor and I gradually gain bits of information related to the set-up of the gain. Based upon some of this, I think we need to call for a role reveal.
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Post by BillMc on Jul 12, 2010 5:43:59 GMT -5
I'd like to hear more of why you think a reveal makes sense at this point. At present the "exactly three scum" snippet is something scum would know
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Post by Boozahol Squid, P.I. on Jul 12, 2010 8:49:00 GMT -5
I'd like to hear more of why you think a reveal makes sense at this point. At present the "exactly three scum" snippet is something scum would know It is something scum would know. I can;t imagine scum revealing it during the middle of the Night, immediately prior to LyLo.
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Post by NAF1138 on Jul 12, 2010 8:55:19 GMT -5
Cool. So, my thoughts are that Boozy is likely not scum. It's a bit of a leap, but he's who I protected last Night and with the no kill and the close game I am figuring that means he was the scum target.
Thanks for being predictable scum!
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Post by NAF1138 on Jul 12, 2010 8:59:16 GMT -5
Oh, and, I am 100% behind Boozy's call for claims. It's time.
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Post by Red Skeezix on Jul 12, 2010 9:42:09 GMT -5
Day 3 usually is about a happy medium for a mass claim. I support the idea, but I'm feeling a bit distrustful of the motives. A call for mass claim from a player who claims to have knowledge that would usually be privy to the scum team only, and immediately after a no kill night? I think I'd prefer a greater quorum than three (including myself) however before proceeding along this path.
But I would prefer a quick decision (say by dinner time today at the latest) to stymie any attempts to generate the most plausible false claims.
Also, if we are going to claim, what's the order? There's a lot to be said about willynilly. Just claiming as soon as it's decidied that thats what were going to do, that would be my personal preference, as timing and claim can be evaluated as opposed to just claims.
If that is unacceptable, I propose that NAF as the claimed doctor (of 3 days without counterclaim, meaning he's probably either telling the truth, or there is no doctor) should set the order.
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Post by NAF1138 on Jul 12, 2010 11:33:30 GMT -5
If we go with my list I say that we reveal in the following order
1) MHaye 11) Pollux Oil 3) redskeezix 7) Total Lost 4) BillMC 6) Pedescribe / Sinjin 9) Captain Pinkies
Random-ish
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Post by Merestil Haye on Jul 12, 2010 12:03:15 GMT -5
Interesting list.
I've been thinking about whether or not to claim, in the light of the knowledge I gained last Night. I guess I'd be better off doing so, if only to put a damper on this movement.
I am the Town's Detective.
Last Night I investigated Boozahol Squid PI.
He is a Soul Stainer (specifically, a blue one.)
Vote Boozahol Squid PI.
I suggest, in the light of the fact that Boozy was the one to float this idea, that it is not in our best interests to follow along, at least until we've had a day or so to review the fact that the SS started this movement.
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Post by Red Skeezix on Jul 12, 2010 12:46:48 GMT -5
Interesting. It would appear that the thick is plottening.
The motivation seems solid for mhaye to resist the mass claim.
So, barring a counterclaim against mhaye, i think today's gonna be an easy vote.
It's easy to believe that boozy might have made a slip and is trying to cover it up with the distraction of a mass claim.
It's also of note that boozy has claimed a "name" but not really a power, although he has implied a power, and a nebulous one at that. I'm kicking myself for not seeing that as a soft claim before, but through the lens of mhaye's claim, it looks like just that.
vote Boozahol Squid P.I.
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Post by NAF1138 on Jul 12, 2010 13:48:01 GMT -5
Huh, I am not sure how to reconcile that with the lack of a Night kill last Night.
Anyone else want to claim credit for stopping last Night's kill?
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Post by BillMc on Jul 12, 2010 13:49:53 GMT -5
At this point, I am willing to trust MHaye, and inclined to trust Boozy and NAF even less
Vote Boozy
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