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Post by Red Skeezix on Jul 13, 2010 10:44:49 GMT -5
Here's a possible plan that we can discuss, as an alternative to mass claiming, since at this point I feel that mass claiming is a distraction dodge to take the focus off of one of the four decent candidates for lynch we already have.
1. We lynch Boozy today.
If boozy was telling the truth: (we are likely at lylo tomorrow) 1. we lynch Mhaye 2. we mass claim on day 5 and determine the best course from there,
If Mhaye was telling the truth, we move into the same position we are in now, tomorrow:
1. Should MHaye be telling the truth, we should have an investigation result on either billmc OR NAF, I'd leave it up to him to decide the target for the sake of wifom, or a dead cop or dead doc or no deaths. 2a (MHaye is alive). we lynch either BillMc or NAF depending on what MHaye has to say about it. 2b (MHaye is dead). We are in the same position we are in now, and we should mass claim to try and suss out the likely hood of two doctors, or which one of the two claims is likely the truth.
3. If we've lynched the wrong doc, we are likely at lylo and should mass claim if we haven't done so and play it by ear at that point I guess.
I'm sure I haven't thought of all the pitfalls of this plan, so lets pick it apart, find the holes and make it better.
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Post by NAF1138 on Jul 13, 2010 10:48:41 GMT -5
Well, the biggest pitfall is if all four of us are actually town we are totally fucked, but on the whole I actually think it's a good plan.
I don't personally think the mass claim is a distraction though. If we are to believe that there are two doctors, and right now I am on the fence, there has to be something else going on in the game that would make that sort of thing make sense in a game this small. I want to know what that other thing is, I feel like it is probably important.
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Post by Mister Blockey on Jul 13, 2010 11:42:36 GMT -5
Current Vote Count:
Boozahol Squid (3): MHaye, redskeezix, BillMC, BillMC (2): Boozahol Squid, NAF NAF (1): Sinjin
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Post by Total Ullz on Jul 13, 2010 14:14:28 GMT -5
Well, the biggest pitfall is if all four of us are actually town we are totally fucked, but on the whole I actually think it's a good plan. I don't personally think the mass claim is a distraction though. If we are to believe that there are two doctors, and right now I am on the fence, there has to be something else going on in the game that would make that sort of thing make sense in a game this small. I want to know what that other thing is, I feel like it is probably important. I hate to argue with you on numbers or balance. We both know you're better on that then me. Still - with two doctors, a vig, an investigator and what else we have seen. Don't you by now think this game seems like an awful lot of town powers? So I'm starting to think if somehow the powers can be stolen as well... But it seems un-fair if Bill's powers were stolen and also colored...
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Post by NAF1138 on Jul 13, 2010 14:26:38 GMT -5
Like I said, I don't know. Two Docs is generally considered a lot in any game other than a very large kill heavy game, but small games change the rules a bit and Blockey has his own ideas about some things that would also change the rules a bit.
What I want most right now is information. A mislynch at this point puts town in a bad way no matter what.
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Post by BillMc on Jul 13, 2010 14:46:22 GMT -5
I hate to argue with you on numbers or balance. We both know you're better on that then me. Still - with two doctors, a vig, an investigator and what else we have seen. Don't you by now think this game seems like an awful lot of town powers? So I'm starting to think if somehow the powers can be stolen as well... But it seems un-fair if Bill's powers were stolen and also colored... What makes you think the powers can be stolen? and more specifically, why my power stolen, and not your says, since you were also coloured white yesterDay?
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Post by Red Skeezix on Jul 13, 2010 16:22:57 GMT -5
I hate to argue with you on numbers or balance. We both know you're better on that then me. Still - with two doctors, a vig, an investigator and what else we have seen. Don't you by now think this game seems like an awful lot of town powers? So I'm starting to think if somehow the powers can be stolen as well... But it seems un-fair if Bill's powers were stolen and also colored... What makes you think the powers can be stolen? and more specifically, why my power stolen, and not your says, since you were also coloured white yesterDay? Consider these questions seconded. Those are some wild theories, do you have any reason to believe they are true?
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Post by Pollux Oil on Jul 13, 2010 20:27:21 GMT -5
Vote Boozahol Squid
I'm willing to give Mhaye the benefit of the doubt on him being a detective. If Boozy is a Soul Stainer, we'll find out. If he's not, Mhaye hangs.
Similarly, I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt on NAF for his "Doctor" claim if Boozy shows up as what Mhaye says. But I was on a scum team with Mhaye and NAF and I wouldn't put it past them to make this an ultra suave doubled-up scum move. But unlike NAF's safe doctor claim that we can't test, we can test Mhaye's investigation. So there we go.
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Post by NAF1138 on Jul 13, 2010 23:59:26 GMT -5
You know Pollux, it's that game I keep thinking back to when I think about MHayes claim.
Still, I am willing to at least unvote bill. Again. :sigh:
Unvote
I am leaning toward the Boozy lynch as the safest lynch, but I still feel uncomfortable about what I don't know about the game mechanics. I generally like to have a better feeling about a vote.
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Post by Merestil Haye on Jul 14, 2010 11:19:34 GMT -5
While there is the possibility that I was redirected, if that is the case then the redirection was transparent - ie, I was not told that I was redirected. My PM identified the person investigated by name, and then stated their role and alignment. So, if Boozy is not a soul stainer, there is an extremely high-powered SS lurking about. That would make me wonder if the SS were a two-person team.
I've said before that three is the natural number for the SS team (since Boozy is blue, I would expect one for each of the primary colours). I'd also be concerned that a 2-player SS team might be a little at the vagary of luck, especially since Mr. Blockey included a Vig.
If Boozy Squid does turn up town, I'd eat my hat if I had one (which I don't). At that point, I'd understand being lynched on Day 4, although I'd hope people at least think before stringing me up.
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Post by NAF1138 on Jul 14, 2010 12:36:28 GMT -5
Here is the thing, unless I am mistaken, if there are three scum in the game then we are at lylo right now.
We can't actually afford a mislynch.
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Post by NAF1138 on Jul 14, 2010 12:39:46 GMT -5
Never mind, I didn't count myself on the player list. Ignore me.
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Post by sinjin on Jul 14, 2010 16:39:50 GMT -5
What I want most right now is information. A mislynch at this point puts town in a bad way no matter what. I hate this statement. What I want most right now is a scum lynch, NOT just information. Scummy, scummy, scummy NAFy.
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Post by Red Skeezix on Jul 14, 2010 17:40:46 GMT -5
What I want most right now is information. A mislynch at this point puts town in a bad way no matter what. I hate this statement. What I want most right now is a scum lynch, NOT just information. Scummy, scummy, scummy NAFy. That's an interesting way of characterizing that statement sinjin, I thought it was assumed that information -> scum lynch. Or do you plan on conjuring one from thin air?
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Post by Boozahol Squid, P.I. on Jul 14, 2010 18:53:48 GMT -5
That's an interesting way of characterizing that statement sinjin, I thought it was assumed that information -> scum lynch. Or do you plan on conjuring one from thin air? Keep playing games with me, and scumlynches appear from nowhere left and right. Especially when I'm scum! That being said, I want to say goodbye to everyone here for a while. I'm getting deployed week after next, and probably will be incommunicado for the next year or so. Take care!
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Post by Merestil Haye on Jul 14, 2010 19:04:46 GMT -5
That being said, I want to say goodbye to everyone here for a while. I'm getting deployed week after next, and probably will be incommunicado for the next year or so. Take care! Take care yourself. Srop by when you can.
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Post by NAF1138 on Jul 14, 2010 19:14:20 GMT -5
Bye Boozy!
Don't forget about us. Drop by when you can.
vote Boozy
Think of it as a going away present.
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Post by NAF1138 on Jul 14, 2010 19:16:41 GMT -5
What I want most right now is information. A mislynch at this point puts town in a bad way no matter what. I hate this statement. What I want most right now is a scum lynch, NOT just information. Scummy, scummy, scummy NAFy. Not that Red hasn't covered this ground already but... How the hell do you get that I don't want a scum lynch out of that statement? I explicitly say that my call for information is so we can avoid a mislynch. Unless to you avoiding a mislynch doesn't mean lynching scum.
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Post by Boozahol Squid, P.I. on Jul 14, 2010 19:19:22 GMT -5
And I'm sure some people here will remember my fondness for a nice, tight, unanimous vote. Unvote
Vote: Boozy Squid
Because he's scummier than an open septic tank in midsummer.
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Post by sinjin on Jul 14, 2010 21:23:15 GMT -5
I hate this statement. What I want most right now is a scum lynch, NOT just information. Scummy, scummy, scummy NAFy. Not that Red hasn't covered this ground already but... How the hell do you get that I don't want a scum lynch out of that statement? I explicitly say that my call for information is so we can avoid a mislynch. Unless to you avoiding a mislynch doesn't mean lynching scum. I guess it was the part where you wanted information more than anything else. Maybe I misinterpreted? <ogg>for Og's sake take care over there boozy.</oog>
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Post by NAF1138 on Jul 14, 2010 22:23:09 GMT -5
Ah, I see. Re read that post with the phrase "before I vote" in there somewhere.
Have I mentioned that I am only playing with half a brain?
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Post by Mister Blockey on Jul 15, 2010 0:52:54 GMT -5
Current Vote Count:
Boozahol Squid (6): MHaye, redskeezix, BillMC, Pollux Oil, NAF, Boozahol Squid NAF (1): Sinjin
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Post by Total Ullz on Jul 15, 2010 6:32:49 GMT -5
I hate to argue with you on numbers or balance. We both know you're better on that then me. Still - with two doctors, a vig, an investigator and what else we have seen. Don't you by now think this game seems like an awful lot of town powers? So I'm starting to think if somehow the powers can be stolen as well... But it seems un-fair if Bill's powers were stolen and also colored... What makes you think the powers can be stolen? and more specifically, why my power stolen, and not your says, since you were also coloured white yesterDay? You claimed to have a power and you have been colored. That's why I speculate on your power being possibly stolen. As for why I speculate on stolens powers is based on the many claims. Maybe Town were given an awful lot of powers, because they can be stolen and therefore can help scum as well/or just not help town. I was speculating on the many powers and the idea of stolen souls. I guess I could have been more clear in my phrasing in the first post - sorry
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Post by Total Ullz on Jul 15, 2010 6:42:42 GMT -5
That's an interesting way of characterizing that statement sinjin, I thought it was assumed that information -> scum lynch. Or do you plan on conjuring one from thin air? Keep playing games with me, and scumlynches appear from nowhere left and right. Especially when I'm scum! That being said, I want to say goodbye to everyone here for a while. I'm getting deployed week after next, and probably will be incommunicado for the next year or so. Take care! Do take care - and please remember to return. Until then I'll work really hard on your karma
Also - just to make sure you don't forget me, I'll send you off with a big, warm vote
Vote Squid
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Post by Mister Blockey on Jul 15, 2010 10:06:22 GMT -5
(With a nearly unanimous vote I decided to end the Day early, night's end will not be changed.) Chaos began the day. Four people were asked dangerous questions of, but Boozy knew there could be only one result from his earlier error, and one by one all eyes turned to him. As the Day wound down to an end, he shrugged and smiled. "I'll go out on my own terms thank you." With that he made a running leap onto the Stone of Souls. As he hit it, his spirit burst from his body, floating over the top of the stone as a wavering blue specter. Coils of energy flowed from his fingertips as the spirit began a dread ritual. Fortunately for the world he was still too weak to complete the ceremony, and the power quickly tightened on his wrists, dragging the screaming wraith into the stone.
Boozahol Squid is dead. He was the Blue Soul Stainer: a Mad Bomber.
Final Vote Count:
Boozahol Squid (7): MHaye, redskeezix, BillMC, Pollux Oil, NAF, Boozahol Squid, Total Lost NAF (1): Sinjin
It is now Night. Night will end at 9 pm eastern on Saturday.
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Post by BillMc on Jul 15, 2010 13:51:38 GMT -5
Excellent. Be safe.
So based on this, I'm willing to trust MHaye as "Detective" - and from his "non color" role, I'm also willing to trust NAF's "Doctor". So we appear to have a bunch of colors and a couple of traditional roles.
From Boozy's initial slip of being exactly three scum, we have two more stainers to find.
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Post by Captain Pinkies on Jul 15, 2010 14:09:20 GMT -5
Hey everyone,
I am here just been dealing with IRL issues... To be clear I missed the voting because of medical appointments and tests this week.... All is OK and treatable....
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Post by Total Ullz on Jul 16, 2010 6:33:24 GMT -5
Isn't a Mad Bomber a role for a PFK/3rd party or am I getting stuff mixed up again?
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Post by Merestil Haye on Jul 16, 2010 6:43:45 GMT -5
Normally, yes. My guess is that in this case Mr Blockey is mixing it up again, just to play with our heads.
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Post by BillMc on Jul 16, 2010 8:29:40 GMT -5
I guess a "mad bomber" is kinda consistent with "soul stainer" and the fact that folk are changing color -- so I guess Total, Pollux and I have been tagged/stained - maybe all the soul stainers are mad bombers?
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