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Post by gnarlycharlie on May 10, 2011 11:25:22 GMT -5
Siste,r would youmind correcting the old vote counts? It might help us peice things together. unless there are voting shenanigans as she mentioned at the start of the game.
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Post by Captain Pinkies on May 10, 2011 11:28:32 GMT -5
I am placing the following vote. Once I make this vote I will not change it for the rest of the day. Vote: Archangel Hmmm..."will not change it"? That's a bit final and non-participatory. Anything we can do change your mind? Can you vote for anyone else today? Ohh, I am plannig on particapating.. I could change my mind, but I can't change my vote No I can not vote for anyone else.
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Post by guiri on May 10, 2011 11:28:01 GMT -5
Yeah, but in the case of the votes on Pinkies, accurate post counts would help us determine if Pinkies himself is immune to one vote or if one of Special, Suburban or Septimus' votes is not being counted.
Same goes for Fluiddruid, did she start the Day with an extra vote - presumably as a penalty, or did something happen during the Day to cause the extra vote.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on May 10, 2011 11:30:34 GMT -5
Siste,r would youmind correcting the old vote counts? It might help us peice things together. unless there are voting shenanigans as she mentioned at the start of the game. But even so, going back and correcting the various vote counts might help us to determine the nature of those 'shenanigans'. Knowing specifically which votes did or did not count, and when any 'extra' votes were applied, ought to help us get a clearer picture of exactly what is going on Today.
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Post by metallicsquink on May 10, 2011 11:32:25 GMT -5
Additionally, Suburban Plankton is voting for pinkies for the same reason as he voted for ace yesterDay. I commented on it earlier but SP hasn't been back to respond. I am interested in what he has to say about it. I didn't vote for ace Yesterday, so I can't really respond directly to your statement. I voted for Pinkies Yesterday because I didn't get a strong Scum vibe from anyone, so I placed a 'policy-vote' on the guy who signed up for the game and didn't bother to show up to play. I voted for Pinkies today because when he did finally make an appearance yesterday, he didn't even take the time to post anything of substance, then he did manage to participate in the Night thread, but was again absent come Dawn. Maybe that's a 'meta-game' vote, but I didn't have a better candidate at the time I made it. And at this point I'm sticking with that vote pending some explanation of his "here's my vote, with no explanation of my reasoning, and by the way I'm not going to change it" vote. What do you think of my comment that maybe others are not voting pinkies (based on his alignment claim) because Ace turned up town? It seems that the claim of alignment (or not) wasn't a scum tell in Ace's case. Why would it be in pinkies' case? Now taken in consideration with other behaviors, maybe pinkies is scum. But based purely on his alignment claim, I'm not sure.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on May 10, 2011 11:32:39 GMT -5
Hmmm..."will not change it"? That's a bit final and non-participatory. Anything we can do change your mind? Can you vote for anyone else today? Ohh, I am plannig on particapating.. I could change my mind, but I can't change my vote No I can not vote for anyone else. So just to be clear, you are claiming a Voting restriction? Why are you voting for Archangel? If you only get one vote per Day, why place it now, relatively early in the Day, instead of waiting to see what develops as the Day goes on?
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Post by gnarlycharlie on May 10, 2011 11:34:07 GMT -5
Hmmm..."will not change it"? That's a bit final and non-participatory. Anything we can do change your mind? Can you vote for anyone else today? Ohh, I am plannig on particapating.. I could change my mind, but I can't change my vote No I can not vote for anyone else. welcome back Cap. interesting problem. unless there are voting shenanigans as she mentioned at the start of the game. But even so, going back and correcting the various vote counts might help us to determine the nature of those 'shenanigans'. Knowing specifically which votes did or did not count, and when any 'extra' votes were applied, ought to help us get a clearer picture of exactly what is going on Today. ah, i see your intent now. good idea.
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Post by gnarlycharlie on May 10, 2011 11:34:48 GMT -5
Ohh, I am plannig on particapating.. I could change my mind, but I can't change my vote No I can not vote for anyone else. So just to be clear, you are claiming a Voting restriction? Why are you voting for Archangel? If you only get one vote per Day, why place it now, relatively early in the Day, instead of waiting to see what develops as the Day goes on? Cap, is it because she has the highest votes?
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Post by special on May 10, 2011 11:37:04 GMT -5
Hmmm..."will not change it"? That's a bit final and non-participatory. Anything we can do change your mind? Can you vote for anyone else today? Ohh, I am plannig on particapating.. I could change my mind, but I can't change my vote No I can not vote for anyone else. Would you be willing to attempt to change your vote so we can see that it won't work? or are you prevented from doing so. Also, would you please particpate in the discussions toDay and indicate for whom you would vote?
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Post by Archangel on May 10, 2011 11:37:12 GMT -5
Cap, is your vote for me your choice?
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Post by Suburban Plankton on May 10, 2011 11:39:21 GMT -5
What do you think of my comment that maybe others are not voting pinkies (based on his alignment claim) because Ace turned up town? It seems that the claim of alignment (or not) wasn't a scum tell in Ace's case. Why would it be in pinkies' case? Now taken in consideration with other behaviors, maybe pinkies is scum. But based purely on his alignment claim, I'm not sure. I think you have a good point, and I think it highlights the fact that it was a bad reason for people to vote for ace Yesterday. It is worth noting that the Day 1 votes were Day 1 votes, so they can't be held to quite the same standards as votes later in the game, simply because there's a lack of concrete information to base them on. I was curious whether those who voted for ace did so as a matter of 'policy' (i.e. refusal to claim alignment is a Scum-tell) , if they were simply bandwagon-jumping (which is not necessarily a Scum-tell), or if they had other reasons. If it was a 'policy' vote, then I would have expected the same vote on Pinkies Today.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on May 10, 2011 11:41:48 GMT -5
Siste,r would youmind correcting the old vote counts? It might help us peice things together. If SisC declines to go back and post corrected vote counts, might it be a good idea for Ed, septimus, and I to unvote and revote, one at a time, at this point?
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Post by Captain Pinkies on May 10, 2011 11:50:38 GMT -5
Why are you voting this way? I am compelled to I can't, without reprocussions Yes, many I hope Nope I am here ready to RUMMBBLE (opps wrong game)
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Post by Captain Pinkies on May 10, 2011 11:51:29 GMT -5
----------------------------------------------------------------------- I am placing the following vote. Once I make this vote I will not change it for the rest of the day. Vote: Archangel [/color] [/quote] Is there a reason for the vote? Is there a reason why you won't change it? That is, are you unable to change it?[/quote] Please see my other posts
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Post by Sister Coyote on May 10, 2011 11:59:05 GMT -5
All of toDay's vote counts have been updated to reflect their correct status at the time they were posted.
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Post by Captain Pinkies on May 10, 2011 12:03:57 GMT -5
Ohh, I am plannig on particapating.. I could change my mind, but I can't change my vote No I can not vote for anyone else. So just to be clear, you are claiming a Voting restriction? Why are you voting for Archangel? If you only get one vote per Day, why place it now, relatively early in the Day, instead of waiting to see what develops as the Day goes on? I have to vote archangel. I had to vote for her in my first post of the day, I can potentially change my vote, but there is a heavy penalty
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Post by Captain Pinkies on May 10, 2011 12:04:15 GMT -5
Cap, is your vote for me your choice? NO!
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Post by JustBeingGinger on May 10, 2011 12:05:58 GMT -5
Why are you voting this way? I am compelled to I can't, without reprocussions Yes, many I hope Nope I am here ready to RUMMBBLE (opps wrong game) So basically what I am reading is that you were forced to vote for Archangel and if you choose to vote for someone else, you will get a penalty. So there has been a claim to a politician role so far by Fluid but in the claim Fluid stated that due to RL issues he was not able to put in his "nightly" vote and did not get a penalty for this. 1. Did Fluid put in his vote at night and lie about it in his claim and just hope that Pinkies would be not be on to claim different, but then Pinkies would have to at least come on and vote. What motivation would Fluid have in lying about not putting in the night vote? 2. Could this be part of a penalty to Fluid by still forcing someone to vote for someone, but does that even make sense.
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Post by Captain Pinkies on May 10, 2011 12:06:27 GMT -5
I didn't vote for ace Yesterday, so I can't really respond directly to your statement. I voted for Pinkies Yesterday because I didn't get a strong Scum vibe from anyone, so I placed a 'policy-vote' on the guy who signed up for the game and didn't bother to show up to play. I voted for Pinkies today because when he did finally make an appearance yesterday, he didn't even take the time to post anything of substance, then he did manage to participate in the Night thread, but was again absent come Dawn. Maybe that's a 'meta-game' vote, but I didn't have a better candidate at the time I made it. And at this point I'm sticking with that vote pending some explanation of his "here's my vote, with no explanation of my reasoning, and by the way I'm not going to change it" vote. What do you think of my comment that maybe others are not voting pinkies (based on his alignment claim) because Ace turned up town? It seems that the claim of alignment (or not) wasn't a scum tell in Ace's case. Why would it be in pinkies' case? Now taken in consideration with other behaviors, maybe pinkies is scum. But based purely on his alignment claim, I'm not sure. I got to the board with minutes left in the game. I saw the request for the alignment claim, so I tried to make it before the end of day. I was trying to catchup and and respond to questions out there...
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Post by special on May 10, 2011 12:12:10 GMT -5
I got to the board with minutes left in the game. I saw the request for the alignment claim, so I tried to make it before the end of day. I was trying to catchup and and respond to questions out there... Fine, that's all in the past. Now that you've read yesterDay and have the time, how about your comments on what occurred and comments on what's happening toDay as well.
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Post by JustBeingGinger on May 10, 2011 12:16:19 GMT -5
I see there are no posts from Paranoia or Meeko at all. There are only a couple posts from Colby, Rysto, and Merestil Haye.
For Paranoia or Meeko, I know there is not a silencer in the game but a JOAT which could have that power.
For Colby, Rysto, and Merestil Haye What are your thoughts for the Day?
Would like to hear from all.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on May 10, 2011 12:33:51 GMT -5
All of toDay's vote counts have been updated to reflect their correct status at the time they were posted. Looking back at the corrected posts, we find: Post 33fluiddruid (2,1): Archangel [30] Captain Pinkies (1,1)*: Special Ed [4] Archangel (1,1): CatInaSuit [26] fluiddruid has an extra at this point. Ed's vote on Pinkies is counted. Post 53Archangel (2,2)*: CatInaSuit [26], metallicsquink [37] fluiddruid (2,1): Archangel [30] Captain Pinkies (1,1): Special Ed [4], Suburban Plankton [47] My vote on Pinkies is not counted. All subsequent votes seem to be consistent with these corrections. So it looks like fluiddruid received a 'penalty vote' for not acting last Night, and My (Suburban's) vote on Pinkies does not count. Discuss.
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Post by metallicsquink on May 10, 2011 12:43:42 GMT -5
That's interesting.
So fluiddruid, I didn't see anything in your PM about getting a penalty for not submitting a Night action. Did you know that could happen?
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Post by metallicsquink on May 10, 2011 12:54:09 GMT -5
That's interesting. So fluiddruid, I didn't see anything in your PM about getting a penalty for not submitting a Night action. Did you know that could happen? I'm really confused about fluid's claim now. If she is going to get penalty votes for not submitting Night actions and her win condition has to do with voting for the lynch candidate, are these penalty votes advancing her own win condition (assuming she managed to get herself lynched)? Or do these penalty votes not count towards her win condition? And why doesn't the PM say anything about the penalty? I have to say that the last game I played, a PFK won (by claiming survivor) and I'm none too keen on keeping fluid in the game at this point.
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Post by Renata on May 10, 2011 13:43:44 GMT -5
Testing, not sure how to do a strike through.
I'll be taking over vote counts for SisC for a while.
Looks like that worked.
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Post by Archangel on May 10, 2011 15:05:33 GMT -5
Well, thanks for your confession, Fluiddruid. My vote will remain on you, as I've learned from previous games never to trust a PFK. Going back to reread and look for scum too though.
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Post by special on May 10, 2011 16:00:07 GMT -5
Testing, not sure how to do a strike through. I'll be taking over vote counts for SisC for a while. Looks like that worked. Is she being punished for getting them wrong? ;D
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Post by Sister Coyote on May 10, 2011 16:08:10 GMT -5
No: she's wise enough to realize that that many mistakes means "ask for help, stupid!"
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Post by guiri on May 10, 2011 16:09:57 GMT -5
Rule violation penalties will be on a sliding scale; the first violation by any person will result in a one-day Penalty Vote How will penalty votes be identified? Would they appear as a mysterious additional vote on a player without any explanation?
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Post by septimus on May 10, 2011 16:11:13 GMT -5
The extra vote on fluid seems straightforward: whether he was so informed or not, his mandatory Night-time vote, when unspecified, is cast on himself. Presumably the Politician controlling Pinkies is separate from fluid, the quasi-Politician. The invisible Nighttime vote and controlled Daytime vote cannot be confused for each other. And there is yet a 3rd shenanigan apparently causing Suburban Plankton's vote not to register! Suburban is attempting to vote for Politician-controlled Pinkies, who is voting for Archangel, who is voting for the quasi-Politician fluid! Can all that be coincidence? I certainly think Pinkies should do a complete reveal now if he doesn't want to be Lynched. I have to say that the last game I played, a PFK won (by claiming survivor) and I'm none too keen on keeping fluid in the game at this point. What was that PFK's wincon? Did he manipulate Town into helping? Surely, if fluiddruid is PFK, then the 33% vote thing is not his wincon. He might have a secret wincon which is vote-related and trying to manipulate us into helping him, but I'm not sure there's urgency. Two extra votes dictated by confirmed Town could be very useful, at least when we get some confirmations.
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