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Post by CatInASuit on May 11, 2011 3:23:11 GMT -5
I see there are no posts from Paranoia or Meeko at all. There are only a couple posts from Colby, Rysto, and Merestil Haye. For Paranoia or Meeko, I know there is not a silencer in the game but a JOAT which could have that power. For Colby, Rysto, and Merestil Haye What are your thoughts for the Day? Would like to hear from all. Any reason for missing storyteller off that list as well?
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Post by CatInASuit on May 11, 2011 4:04:30 GMT -5
Looking back at the corrected posts, we find: Post 33fluiddruid (2,1): Archangel [30] Captain Pinkies (1,1)*: Special Ed [4] Archangel (1,1): CatInaSuit [26] fluiddruid has an extra at this point. Ed's vote on Pinkies is counted. Post 53Archangel (2,2)*: CatInaSuit [26], metallicsquink [37] fluiddruid (2,1): Archangel [30] Captain Pinkies (1,1): Special Ed [4], Suburban Plankton [47] My vote on Pinkies is not counted. All subsequent votes seem to be consistent with these corrections. So it looks like fluiddruid received a 'penalty vote' for not acting last Night, and My (Suburban's) vote on Pinkies does not count. Discuss. There is a much simpler alternative. Someone has removed Suburban Plankton's vote and vote charged Archangel. This would mean there is no penalty vote on fluiddruid, as Archangel has two votes for this Day. An easy way to test this would be for Suburban Plankton and Archangel to vote for new people who have no current votes against them and to get a new vote count to see is this is the case. It would also show if it is a penalty vote on fluiddruid or not.
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Post by CatInASuit on May 11, 2011 4:33:49 GMT -5
Lots to digest... Here are my thoughts I think voting for Captain is a mistake. Clearly his vote is being controlled, therefore lynching him would only help SCUM. Archangel does seem somewhat scummish, but I want to reread Day 1 again... I plan to do that tomorrow after my finals If you guys want to argue about inactivity, Paranoia hasn't responded at all today... So go after him, and not Captain. So, for the moment, Vote: Paranoia [/color] due to inactivity.[/quote] This post has all kinds of wrong about it. Having their vote controlled in no way determines what their side is. Restating what you have said above reads as "His vote is being controlled, therefore he is not SCUM." How can you make this assumption? and seriously a LtL vote on day 2 of Day 2. This just smacks of a safe, not trying to do anything, policy vote, just to put a marker down. Given the lack of content from a lot of players, why paranoia?
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Post by CatInASuit on May 11, 2011 4:50:23 GMT -5
Something else from Day 1 which caught my eye was JustBeingGinger's unvote of fluiddruid, or rather the reasoning for it. It is just that in some of your posts you imply that ACE is scum (Slam Dunk) and then in some of your posts, you state that numbers show that we lynch a townie on day one and because it is part of the mechanics it is somewhat acceptable. I have read the post where you state why you think ACE is scum for not going with the "crowds" I understand what you are stating now. You are not necessarily talking about the person being voted for but the people that place their votes there. I have as well been suspicious and placed my vote on someone that voted for town on the first day and in fact voted for them because the fact they voted early on the first day without having any valid reasons. That was my first game I ever played and I have learned since... Therefore: UNvote Fluiddruid After being rebutted by fluiddruid, JBG unvoted fairly quickly, but what caught my eye was "I have as well been suspicious and placed my vote on someone that voted for town on the first day and in fact voted for them because the fact they voted early on the first day without having any valid reasons."Now I could read this as JBG's experience from past games where people voted for a townie on the first day. But I could also read this as JBG repeating the same mistake and so was voting for someone who was voting for town. If that is the case, then JBG knew ace903 was town, ie. JBG is scum. @jbg - care to explain this a little further as to what the correct explanation is.
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Post by JustBeingGinger on May 11, 2011 5:06:52 GMT -5
I see there are no posts from Paranoia or Meeko at all. There are only a couple posts from Colby, Rysto, and Merestil Haye. For Paranoia or Meeko, I know there is not a silencer in the game but a JOAT which could have that power. For Colby, Rysto, and Merestil Haye What are your thoughts for the Day? Would like to hear from all. Any reason for missing storyteller off that list as well? I simply overlooked him/her. I wrote down the names and skimmed through the posts to see if anyone that I wrote down posted.
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Post by JustBeingGinger on May 11, 2011 5:15:01 GMT -5
Something else from Day 1 which caught my eye was JustBeingGinger's unvote of fluiddruid, or rather the reasoning for it. It is just that in some of your posts you imply that ACE is scum (Slam Dunk) and then in some of your posts, you state that numbers show that we lynch a townie on day one and because it is part of the mechanics it is somewhat acceptable. I have read the post where you state why you think ACE is scum for not going with the "crowds" I understand what you are stating now. You are not necessarily talking about the person being voted for but the people that place their votes there. I have as well been suspicious and placed my vote on someone that voted for town on the first day and in fact voted for them because the fact they voted early on the first day without having any valid reasons. That was my first game I ever played and I have learned since... Therefore: UNvote Fluiddruid After being rebutted by fluiddruid, JBG unvoted fairly quickly, but what caught my eye was "I have as well been suspicious and placed my vote on someone that voted for town on the first day and in fact voted for them because the fact they voted early on the first day without having any valid reasons."Now I could read this as JBG's experience from past games where people voted for a townie on the first day. But I could also read this as JBG repeating the same mistake and so was voting for someone who was voting for town. If that is the case, then JBG knew ace903 was town, ie. JBG is scum. @jbg - care to explain this a little further as to what the correct explanation is. as for my unvote of Fluid I was mistaken in reading her words. If it is my mistake in understanding what she is trying to communicate, then yes, I will unvote. As for me "knowing" ACE was town. I didn't. I have played with ACE in the last two games she has played and I have seen and even taken part of her lynches. Knowing how she was playing in those two games, and she was scum, gave me a feeling that she might be town. She put herself out there by refusing to claim her alignment. From what I have learned from this game and trying to find scum, is that they hide in the masses they try not to stand out too much and going against a mass claim is not scummy to me. It could of been 3rd party, I have never found a 3rd party person. I didn't want to lynch a somewhat suspected town person. .
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Post by Rysto on May 11, 2011 6:48:11 GMT -5
Sorry, guys. I've been trying to keep up with the game and mostly been failing miserably. I don't have a lot of coherent thoughts yet -- I think that I'm going to have to re-read the thread again.
One comment that I do have, which is from the first page or something, is about a point CatInASuit made against Moley. CatInASuit complained that Moley could have confirmed his restriction by not posting for an entire Day but escaping without a penalty vote. I can see this from Cat's perspective -- strictly speaking, that probably would have been the best move. But I have a lot of sympathy with Moley's position: this is a game, after all, and deliberately not playing the game runs completely counter to the goal of actually having fun playing. So I really can't fault Moley for wanting to actually play mafia.
Oh, and Pinkies? The way that you've gone about today has been counterproductive for yourself(whatever your alignment) and for Town. You could have avoided a lot of suspicion if you'd just been clear from the start that your vote had been compelled.
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Post by special on May 11, 2011 6:50:21 GMT -5
Lots to digest... Here are my thoughts I think voting for Captain is a mistake. Clearly his vote is being controlled, therefore lynching him would only help SCUM. Archangel does seem somewhat scummish, but I want to reread Day 1 again... I plan to do that tomorrow after my finals If you guys want to argue about inactivity, Paranoia hasn't responded at all today... So go after him, and not Captain. So, for the moment, Vote: Paranoia [/color] due to inactivity.[/quote] So you are assuming that Captain's vote was bought by the Scum? Interesting. Any reason for that assumption? If I were a Town Politician, Captain's vote might be the one I would buy, since there's no guarantee he'll actually show up and post a vote.
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Post by special on May 11, 2011 6:53:56 GMT -5
Cap, did you have to vote *me* or just the leading vote getter? Holey Moley, what do you think of this? I was told whom to vote for and how to vote and when to vote, if break "my gift" there is a penalty... And yes I know what the penalty is. Wouldn't it be pro-Town to tell us these things?
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Post by metallicsquink on May 11, 2011 8:00:36 GMT -5
The extra vote on fluid seems straightforward: whether he was so informed or not, his mandatory Night-time vote, when unspecified, is cast on himself. I don't know that it's so straightforward. Assuming her role is for real, if she(?) got a penalty vote for not submitting her target, she hasn't actually made a prediction for toDay's lynch. However, if she actually voted for herself using her secret Night vote, she's predicted that she's going to be lynched toDay. She then made an unforced claim of 3rd party politician/mad-bomber who forgot to submit the extra vote and appears to have been given a penalty vote as punishment. If she's lynched toDay, she'll meet her wincon and go off to 3rd party limbo waiting for end game. The other thing that I don't get is why she would get a penalty vote for not submitting her Night action. Why would that be a penalty? She would have already "penalized" herself, so to speak, by not advancing her own win condition. In other words, why does the mod care if she forgets or not?
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Post by metallicsquink on May 11, 2011 8:01:38 GMT -5
The extra vote on fluid seems straightforward: whether he was so informed or not, his mandatory Night-time vote, when unspecified, is cast on himself. Presumably the Politician controlling Pinkies is separate from fluid, the quasi-Politician. The invisible Nighttime vote and controlled Daytime vote cannot be confused for each other. And there is yet a 3rd shenanigan apparently causing Suburban Plankton's vote not to register! Suburban is attempting to vote for Politician-controlled Pinkies, who is voting for Archangel, who is voting for the quasi-Politician fluid! Can all that be coincidence? I certainly think Pinkies should do a complete reveal now if he doesn't want to be Lynched. What was that PFK's wincon? Did he manipulate Town into helping? Surely, if fluiddruid is PFK, then the 33% vote thing is not his wincon. He might have a secret wincon which is vote-related and trying to manipulate us into helping him, but I'm not sure there's urgency. Two extra votes dictated by confirmed Town could be very useful, at least when we get some confirmations. I don't remember exactly what the wincon was, but he cooperated with/manipulated town until he almost got there, and then turned on them and cooperated with scum. I don't recall the name of the game (or if we are talking about the same game, Archangel) but this is the one where mlerose won. She did not ask for help from town, though.
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Post by metallicsquink on May 11, 2011 8:03:59 GMT -5
For all clarity regarding myself: As I mentioned I posted my entire PM. There have been no omissions, and to clarify even more, I have had no private communication with the GM regarding my role. As such I have no information other than what I've posted. If you're requesting me to contact the GM privately for some reason, I can do that, but it seems to make more sense to ask the GM directly in the thread. That way there's no way you can doubt the answer. If no answer is forthcoming and you want me to ask questions about my role, let me know. I am presuming that the vote on me is a penalty just as others have said. I have no extra knowledge. No, I did not place it, but I do not see any reason why I could not place it. However, I did not. Perhaps foolish on my part but I simply didn't even think of it at an option for fulfilling my win condition. Even if I had, it seems risky, since the extra vote would have (presumably) become apparent and then I'm sure people would have suspected all kinds of possible detriments to voting for me. Closed setups... Are you not the least bit curious as to why you have a penalty vote? Why would you not have asked the mod already?
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Post by metallicsquink on May 11, 2011 8:06:29 GMT -5
Lots to digest... Here are my thoughts I think voting for Captain is a mistake. Clearly his vote is being controlled, therefore lynching him would only help SCUM. Archangel does seem somewhat scummish, but I want to reread Day 1 again... I plan to do that tomorrow after my finals If you guys want to argue about inactivity, Paranoia hasn't responded at all today... So go after him, and not Captain. So, for the moment, Vote: Paranoia due to inactivity. I believe someone has already asked this (I'm posting as I catch up) but I am also very curious as to why you think lynching pinkies helps scum and how that is related to his vote. Do you know something about his forced vote that we don't know? I also don't understand why you are voting for Paranoia when you find Archangel "scummish."
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Post by metallicsquink on May 11, 2011 8:09:00 GMT -5
Cap, did you have to vote *me* or just the leading vote getter? Holey Moley, what do you think of this? I was told whom to vote for and how to vote and when to vote, if break "my gift" there is a penalty... And yes I know what the penalty is. Why are you being so evasive? I don't understand why you came in toDay, dropped your vote (because you had to) but then everyone else had to come in and ask you about it before you explained. And here you are still not giving us all the information that you have about your vote.
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Post by CatInASuit on May 11, 2011 8:33:31 GMT -5
Are you not the least bit curious as to why you have a penalty vote? Why would you not have asked the mod already? Why are you so certain it is a penalty vote, when there are other possibilities.
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Post by JustBeingGinger on May 11, 2011 8:46:01 GMT -5
Are you not the least bit curious as to why you have a penalty vote? Why would you not have asked the mod already? Why are you so certain it is a penalty vote, when there are other possibilities. What other possibilities are there? I am not questioning you, I am really asking. I have never played in a game with a politician so this is all new to me. So if it is correct, Pinkies is being forced to vote for Archangel, for some reason Pinkiesis not giving up all information about this, but we do know that he posted the vote. So if are you saying that maybe Fluid has had the same thing happen to her, wouldn't someone have to post a vote for her. I believe Archangel voted for her but for her own reasons and was not forced to.
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Post by Meeko on May 11, 2011 9:13:24 GMT -5
Snipped Oh, and Pinkies? The way that you've gone about today has been counterproductive for yourself(whatever your alignment) and for Town. You could have avoided a lot of suspicion if you'd just been clear from the start that your vote had been compelled. Snipped and Bolded. THIS. Why diction fails me in these games is beyond me. Yet again, someone else is saying what I tried to say, and is saying it better.
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Post by storyteller0910 on May 11, 2011 9:17:54 GMT -5
Lots to digest... Here are my thoughts I think voting for Captain is a mistake. Clearly his vote is being controlled, therefore lynching him would only help SCUM. Archangel does seem somewhat scummish, but I want to reread Day 1 again... I plan to do that tomorrow after my finals If you guys want to argue about inactivity, Paranoia hasn't responded at all today... So go after him, and not Captain. So, for the moment, Vote: Paranoia [/color] due to inactivity.[/quote] So you are assuming that Captain's vote was bought by the Scum? Interesting. Any reason for that assumption? If I were a Town Politician, Captain's vote might be the one I would buy, since there's no guarantee he'll actually show up and post a vote.[/quote] Yeah, I'm trying desperately to catch up - bad, bad week here at work - but actually, the weirdest disconnect here is that if one assumes Captain Pinkies' vote was bought by Scum, then that would (in my opinion) mitigate strongly against a "scummish" Archangel.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on May 11, 2011 9:43:47 GMT -5
I've fallen a bit behind as I had some unexpected guests yesterday evening, so I have to go back and do some closer reading of the last 24 hours or so. But in the meantime, I do have a few thoughts: Captain Pinkies story sounds plausible enough, but he isn't doing the town any favors by the way he has come forth with his information. The problem with this is that I can't remember being in a game with Pinkies long enough for him to ever be forthcoming with information, so I really don't know if this is out of character for him. I keep going back and forth on fluiddruid's claim. A problem for me is the 'penalty vote'; it's not mentioned anywhere in the Role PM, and she didn't think to ask the Mod about it when it appeared. On the other hand, the 'penalty vote' wasn't in the vote counts before SisC corrected them, so that strongly suggests that it is indeed a Mod penalty. That aside, I think it's also quite possible that she is in fact a 3rd-Party, but has tweaked her PM to make her appear less threatening than she actually is. Regarding my vote on Captain Pinkies, there are quite a few possibilities. On thing we can hopefully determine is whether the affected person is me or Pinkies, so with that in mind Unvote: captain Pinkies and just for fun Vote: Special Ed I plan to keep this vote in place only as long as it takes for me to see its effectiveness after the next vote count.
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Post by Meeko on May 11, 2011 9:44:58 GMT -5
I am going to look at FluidDruid here. I take from her quote, but took off the tags, so I could interject. I will let you know where and when I snip. My comments follow the >>> Okay folks, confession time. Also a role claim. I have been a bit flummoxed as to what to do with my role. I am third-party, so I realize that the conventional wisdom will be to lynch me. However, I hope that you will hear me out for a few reasons, not least of which is that I'm under no particular pressure to claim right now, and because I would like to offer my alliance to the Town team. >>> Third party is a tough row to hoe. Not sure my one day stint as a wolf in Conspiracy 3 [was it?] counts as a third party. Mafia always comes down to "Us and Them", an 'also ran' is worse off than a US political third party. >>> But, if Fluid has a plan, and acts in line, why can't we keep her on a short leash? [Kinky!] You make some valid points here, and I can't see the down side here. ..... For the life of me, I'm trying to remember what happened with Cookies*, in that game where she was in a similar position. .... To be honest, that game, while just relatively a short time ago, seems forever ago. [My god, what game was that?] >>> *Is there a convention for naming a player that is Ma'am not playing in this game? >>> But yeah, I can't argue with what you have. At least not yet. What do you have for us, Fluid? SNIPPED through to the "" good stuff "". You are a third-party Mad Bomber/Politician-of-sorts.You get two votes. Beginning with Night One, each Night, you must place your first vote on the player of your choice. You may either post this vote in the Night thread (in Bold and Blue), or you may send a PM to the moderator. This vote may not be changed. Your second vote will be placed as usual in the Day thread. >>> Double Voter. Fun. You may repeat a player every Night if you so choose. If that player is lynched, you earn only one point in your favor. >>> And so your win-con begins in earnest here. I would have asked for clarification on what exactly repeat means, but perhaps you get to this later. If, at end-game, you have extra-voted a lynchee 33% of the time (rounded down) you survived, you win with the winning team. (e.g., you are killed at the Dawn of Day Four, but on Day Two your lynch candidate was killed, you win with the winning team.) >>> Again I find the wording here a bit murky. A second / third pass at this seems to mean that you could act early and "play out" riding high with the win, watching the rest of the game lose. If you are Night Killed, your extra vote will carry on to the Day past your death, so if you die at the Dawn of Day Four your extra vote will carry through Day Four and will count toward your point total.[/quote] >>> This seems to be a balance issue of some sort. I immediately think that this is "broken" so that must mean that everyone else finds it to be normal. I could digress into Magic: The Gathering verbiage, and argue that a prodigal sorcerer has a similar clause. But yeah, that would just confuse the issue. >>>Moving on. As you can see, my only chance of success is to predict lynch winners. However, what I realize is that as soon as I start placing my extra votes, everyone is going to be very suspicious of what is going on and switch their votes around, avoiding any possible candidate I might choose. Hence, my decision to claim. >>> Ok. Good stuff here. @ Fluid I thought the PM said you could your second vote could be in private. Therefore no one would be the wiser, no one would know to switch votes. Please clarify this. For full disclosure, I was unexpectedly busy this weekend and did not cast my extra vote. Since I'm not modkilled for missing my mandatory vote window, I'll assume that means that I'll get to use my power tomorrow (I hope?) So, I'm making Townies this offer. In exchange for my life, I'll do the following: - I'll cast my extra vote for the second place lynch candidate each Day. This seems to make the most sense as a strategy that will benefit Town (making it easier to lynch someone that a significant number of players are convinced are Scum), as well as make it possible to pursue my win condition. <<Second Half>> I could also do this based on the number of confirmed Town, but sadly this will probably be pretty controversial and, right now, isn't practical. (This is negotiable, if a different voting pattern is more welcome, I will be happy to consider this, though I must reasonably expect manipulation from the scum team as well, so I do plan to make a strategy now and stick with it.) >>> This immediately strikes me as do-able. To my mind, this is no different from what most Vigilantes do. That is, I see the model here as one that a Vigilante would use, and I am willing to bet that you thought "Hey, I could do the vigilante thing here". You also include a tenative plan for later, that I don't fully understand. At the same time, you offer that it's half baked / controversial. >>> I take the second half of this one to mean that you are flexible to changing your 'game plan' as the game progresses. I don't think anyone can fault you for that. >>> That's all I have for that one gang. I hope you guys can understand me on that one. - Also, presuming it's not unwelcome. I'll offer you my honest opinion about vote candidates from my neutral position. - I'll attempt to act pro-Town in all ways I can fathom from here until the end of the game. >>> I think we can offer you benefit of the doubt, at least. I think we can offer more. That to say I agree here. For the lie detector: I attest that the PM I've posted above is 100% accurate with no omissions, and that I have not lied in the game thread about anything except claiming Town during the mass claim. >>> While I take issue with the wording of the PM, it's probably more of how my own brain works. No two people are going to use the same exact wording, in anything, ever. >>> That is to say I don't doubt that the PM is accurate. it has a certain un-clear ring to it. [[ That is to say, It's not over worked, so it's probably true. ]] Thoughts? >>> I think you just got them.
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Post by Archangel on May 11, 2011 9:50:25 GMT -5
I don't remember exactly what the wincon was, but he cooperated with/manipulated town until he almost got there, and then turned on them and cooperated with scum. I don't recall the name of the game (or if we are talking about the same game, Archangel) but this is the one where mlerose won. She did not ask for help from town, though. No, I'm talking about an FB game. She doesn't play there, AFAIK.
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Post by metallicsquink on May 11, 2011 9:51:39 GMT -5
Are you not the least bit curious as to why you have a penalty vote? Why would you not have asked the mod already? Why are you so certain it is a penalty vote, when there are other possibilities. I suppose it could just be coincidence that fluiddruid, who is claiming a voting-related power, was also the target of someone else with a voting-related power. If fluiddruid's extra vote is not the result of her own action, then that means we could have four possible voting-related actions going on: 1. fluiddruid who gets an extra vote 2. someone who can cancel/negate a vote (and has cancelled SP's vote toDay) 3. someone who can force a vote (like they did on pinkies) 4. someone who can place a secret/private vote (which could be happening to fluid). In any event, if I were fluiddruid, I would at least ask the mod if it was a penalty vote related to his lack of a Night action.
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Post by Archangel on May 11, 2011 9:51:39 GMT -5
Looking back at the corrected posts, we find: Post 33fluiddruid (2,1): Archangel [30] Captain Pinkies (1,1)*: Special Ed [4] Archangel (1,1): CatInaSuit [26] fluiddruid has an extra at this point. Ed's vote on Pinkies is counted. Post 53Archangel (2,2)*: CatInaSuit [26], metallicsquink [37] fluiddruid (2,1): Archangel [30] Captain Pinkies (1,1): Special Ed [4], Suburban Plankton [47] My vote on Pinkies is not counted. All subsequent votes seem to be consistent with these corrections. So it looks like fluiddruid received a 'penalty vote' for not acting last Night, and My (Suburban's) vote on Pinkies does not count. Discuss. There is a much simpler alternative. Someone has removed Suburban Plankton's vote and vote charged Archangel. This would mean there is no penalty vote on fluiddruid, as Archangel has two votes for this Day. An easy way to test this would be for Suburban Plankton and Archangel to vote for new people who have no current votes against them and to get a new vote count to see is this is the case. It would also show if it is a penalty vote on fluiddruid or not. I'll play along to see what happens.
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Post by Archangel on May 11, 2011 9:52:50 GMT -5
Unvote Fluiddruid
Vote Gnarliecharlie
Vote is to test Catinasuit's theory, I will be changing it back again.
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Post by CatInASuit on May 11, 2011 9:56:22 GMT -5
Thanks Archangel.
Vote count please, oh mighty and powerful Mods.
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Post by Renata on May 11, 2011 10:04:16 GMT -5
Err, whoops. Falling down on the job already.
Vote count coming up!
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Post by Sister Coyote on May 11, 2011 10:10:14 GMT -5
Hopefully this will match with what Renata comes up with:
Current vote count:
Captain Pinkies (4,4)*: Special Ed [4], Suburban Plankton [47,198], septimus [88], Meeko [156], LightFoot [161] Archangel (3,3): CatInaSuit [26], metallicsquink [37], Captain Pinkies [90] Fluiddruid (1,1): Archangel [30,203] Paranoia (1,1): colby11 [176] Special Ed (1,1): Suburban Plankton [198] gnarlycharlie (1,1): Archangel [203] CatInaSuit (0,1): septimus [60,88]
With these votes, Captain Pinkies will be lynched.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on May 11, 2011 10:10:48 GMT -5
Ohh, I am plannig on particapating.. Nope I am here ready to RUMMBBLE (opps wrong game) Pinkies, Perhaps we may have been insufficiently specific in our questions earlier. Do you plan on posting anything at all that is related to any topic other than your vote? That is, do you have any thoughts on the rest of the Day's proceedings? Anything?
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Post by Renata on May 11, 2011 10:14:28 GMT -5
Current vote count:
Captain Pinkies (4,4): Special Ed [4], Suburban Plankton [47, 198], septimus [88], Meeko [156], LightFoot [161] Archangel (3,3): CatInaSuit [26], metallicsquink [37], Captain Pinkies [90] Fluiddruid (1,1): archangel [30, 203] Paranoia (1,1): colby11 [176] Special Ed (1,1): Suburban Plankton [198] Gnarlycharlie (1,1): Archangel [203] CatInaSuit (0,1): septimus [60,88]
With these votes, Captain Pinkies would be lynched.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on May 11, 2011 10:14:31 GMT -5
And now that we have an updated vote count...
Unvote: Special Ed Vote: Captain Pinkies
Two reasons:
1) Just to put things back the way they were 2) At this point, pending more participation and information from the Captain, he's still my top suspect.
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