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Day 1
Jun 30, 2011 15:09:50 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Jun 30, 2011 15:09:50 GMT -5
Meeko, did you use the same PM for all scum? For all vanilla town? For all masons? Or is it possible there are inconsistencies in them? You can count on there being inconsistencies* in the PMs. Take this as fact / Word of Mod.
* Inconsistency isn't quite the word I would have used. This is precisely why I said " " to the previous comment about handshakes.
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Day 1
Jun 30, 2011 15:11:13 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Jun 30, 2011 15:11:13 GMT -5
*Match pace: Guiri* *Outrun: Trepa* I honestly just forgot to switch. There are still 3 days left, so keep your shirt on. And I wasn't smudging you. I called you on something that multiple other people have called you on, and gave my personal opinion that it is not something that should be forgotten in later rounds. I would prefer votes in color, please.
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Day 1
Jun 30, 2011 15:13:24 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Jun 30, 2011 15:13:24 GMT -5
Trepa Mayfield (7) : Guiri, LightFoot, SilverJan, Colby11, Suburban Plankton, Captain Pinkies, Cassidy Scarlet Special Ed (1) : Fubbleskag Sister Coyote (1) : Moodymitchy CassidyScarlet (1) : JustBeingGinger SilverJan (1): Trepa Mayfield
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Jun 30, 2011 15:32:33 GMT -5
Post by Trepa Mayfield on Jun 30, 2011 15:32:33 GMT -5
If I die, for the record, I told you so.
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Jun 30, 2011 15:41:50 GMT -5
Post by special on Jun 30, 2011 15:41:50 GMT -5
*Match pace: Guiri* *Outrun: Trepa* I honestly just forgot to switch. There are still 3 days left, so keep your shirt on. And I wasn't smudging you. I called you on something that multiple other people have called you on, and gave my personal opinion that it is not something that should be forgotten in later rounds. See, how I define Smudge is to cast suspicion on someone while not accusing them of anything. You've done so by saying it shouldn't be forgotten while describing it yourself as not being a Scum tell. You've basically said "Ed didn't do anything suspicious..buuuuut still....." So, to be more direct, why is it something that shouldn't be forgotten? By admitting that you're wanting attention on me for something that isn't a Scum-tell. That's escaping accountability while casting suspicion. That is a Scum tell. So, with my shirt firmly on, I'll state that it also seems suspicious that a Town player might come in, have their 'obvious mistake' pointed out and then forget to actually correct that mistake. So that's another strike against you.
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Jun 30, 2011 15:42:53 GMT -5
Post by special on Jun 30, 2011 15:42:53 GMT -5
If I die, for the record, I told you so. I might vote to lynch you just to be rid of the avatar
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Jun 30, 2011 15:53:53 GMT -5
Post by cassidyscarlet on Jun 30, 2011 15:53:53 GMT -5
"See, how I define Smudge is to cast suspicion on someone while not accusing them of anything. You've done so by saying it shouldn't be forgotten while describing it yourself as not being a Scum tell. You've basically said "Ed didn't do anything suspicious..buuuuut still....."
So, to be more direct, why is it something that shouldn't be forgotten?
By admitting that you're wanting attention on me for something that isn't a Scum-tell. That's escaping accountability while casting suspicion. That is a Scum tell.
So, with my shirt firmly on, I'll state that it also seems suspicious that a Town player might come in, have their 'obvious mistake' pointed out and then forget to actually correct that mistake. So that's another strike against you."
What you did (ask questions about the masons, trying to cast doubt on scum not having any power roles) is not NECESSARILY a scumtell, though given more context in future days and with lynches and nightkills, it could become more important. It's something to remember. It's as simple as that. And just saying i'm suspicious for saying it should be kept in mind doesn't actually make me suspicious. You'd need to try and use actual logic for that to happen.
As for forgetting to change my vote: again, what purpose would that serve for a scum? Obviously it wasn't going to tip the vote away from Trepa, and like I said, we are still 3 days away from the lynch, so just because I didn't remember to include it in my initial post is not me being shifty.
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Jun 30, 2011 15:54:31 GMT -5
Post by Trepa Mayfield on Jun 30, 2011 15:54:31 GMT -5
If I die, for the record, I told you so. I might vote to lynch you just to be rid of the avatar What've you got against red pandas?
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Jun 30, 2011 16:13:06 GMT -5
Post by LightFoot on Jun 30, 2011 16:13:06 GMT -5
I might vote to lynch you just to be rid of the avatar What've you got against red pandas? YOMANK Tea in nose
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Jun 30, 2011 16:15:15 GMT -5
Post by LightFoot on Jun 30, 2011 16:15:15 GMT -5
"See, how I define Smudge is to cast suspicion on someone while not accusing them of anything. You've done so by saying it shouldn't be forgotten while describing it yourself as not being a Scum tell. You've basically said "Ed didn't do anything suspicious..buuuuut still....." So, to be more direct, why is it something that shouldn't be forgotten? By admitting that you're wanting attention on me for something that isn't a Scum-tell. That's escaping accountability while casting suspicion. That is a Scum tell. So, with my shirt firmly on, I'll state that it also seems suspicious that a Town player might come in, have their 'obvious mistake' pointed out and then forget to actually correct that mistake. So that's another strike against you." What you did (ask questions about the masons, trying to cast doubt on scum not having any power roles) is not NECESSARILY a scumtell, though given more context in future days and with lynches and nightkills, it could become more important. It's something to remember. It's as simple as that. And just saying i'm suspicious for saying it should be kept in mind doesn't actually make me suspicious. You'd need to try and use actual logic for that to happen. As for forgetting to change my vote: again, what purpose would that serve for a scum? Obviously it wasn't going to tip the vote away from Trepa, and like I said, we are still 3 days away from the lynch, so just because I didn't remember to include it in my initial post is not me being shifty. Could you try to use the quote feature or somehow denote others' words (and whom) from your own. It makes it easier to tell who you are talking to and what YOU have said
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Jun 30, 2011 16:18:58 GMT -5
Post by LightFoot on Jun 30, 2011 16:18:58 GMT -5
@ cassidyscarlet I think you are saying that Ed asked questions about the Masons? I don't recall Ed mentioning them. Can you identify the post number where this happened?
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Jun 30, 2011 16:20:02 GMT -5
Post by Archangel on Jun 30, 2011 16:20:02 GMT -5
Outrun Trepa Mayfield
Occam's razor. Easier to believe you tripped up and quoted your PM than that you coincidentally called scum "rabids" and then had that phrase mod-confirmed. I was hesistant to vote you in case you might be the doctor but that is apparently untrue.
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Jun 30, 2011 16:32:38 GMT -5
Post by fubbleskag on Jun 30, 2011 16:32:38 GMT -5
if the non-lynch-leaders reain fairly tied, I'm open to suggestions for Night 1's investigation.
also, I'm at the hospital currently - it has now been 14 hours since the wife's water broke - so there is a good chance I'll be less active for the next few days, but I will make a point of logging in long enough to request and report on my investigation(s), baby be damned!
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Jun 30, 2011 16:37:24 GMT -5
Post by cassidyscarlet on Jun 30, 2011 16:37:24 GMT -5
The game is not open. We don't know the number of Scum, we don't know whether Masons can communicate nor what powers they may or may not have, we don't know whether the Vigilante is mandatory or optional (a MAJOR element in balancing and thus guessing at number of Scum). We collectively don't even know the Scum win condition. The game isn't open. It's partially open. That's OK; we've all played partially open games before, and the world hasn't ended. I don't particularly enjoy the idea of spending the game trying to haggle information out of the mod, you know? I agree that it's OK. And, aside from my questions in Night 0 (which I thought were legitimate questions to be asked as the game started). I have addressed the moderator twice. 1. I asked for a rules/players list. when that didn't happen, I created a post that gathered together what I could find of the rules to make any checking in the future easier. 2. I asked for clarification on when the Days end regarding Day Night Savings time. Now, as to my paranoia, yes, I'll admit that when I asked if the roles given were the only roles, I was expecting a simple "Yes" not a "no comment." When I asked if the Scum had powers, I expected a "No" not a "no comment." So, as the Day began, I was a bit more cautious about the no Scum have powers thing, because despite how clear it might seem that Meeko was in Night 0 Post 21 (is that correct? I'm not going back to check), I have a history of thinking Meeko was saying one thing while he was saying another. Also, later I did get a little bit ruffled when the moderator came in and told me to play instead of asking hium questions in response to a post where I was addressing my thoughts to other players and not to him. So, yeah, I can see how that might have come off as less than pleasant, especially when he was so [sarcasm] gracious [/sarcasm] as to tell me that he wouldn't mod kill me. When I was trying to catch up, I was reading everything on my phone which had a funky format. I read this and thought the entire post was by Ed, and didn't see that the first part was actually a quote.
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Jun 30, 2011 16:48:55 GMT -5
Post by special on Jun 30, 2011 16:48:55 GMT -5
What you did (ask questions about the masons, trying to cast doubt on scum not having any power roles) is not NECESSARILY a scumtell, though given more context in future days and with lynches and nightkills, it could become more important. It's something to remember. It's as simple as that. And just saying i'm suspicious for saying it should be kept in mind doesn't actually make me suspicious. You'd need to try and use actual logic for that to happen. See, that's better. A reason for keeping it in mind instead of just 'this isn't worth a vote, but still...' which is a smudge. As for forgetting to change my vote: again, what purpose would that serve for a scum? Obviously it wasn't going to tip the vote away from Trepa, and like I said, we are still 3 days away from the lynch, so just because I didn't remember to include it in my initial post is not me being shifty. You misunderstand me. Everything a Scum does doesn't have to have Scum motivation. However, some errors are more likely to be made by Scum than by Town. If you were Scum just wishing to get a vote in, it might make sense to just read the argument, forget who was who and cast your vote. I contend that it's more likely for a Town player to pay careful attention and look back before casting a vote, since it's important to make the right vote. Scum mostly just need to make a vote with a reason to avoid looking like Scum. And, as to forgetting to change your vote, again, I contend that it's more likely that a Town player would be thinking, 'crap, I voted for the wrong person, let me fix that!' Whereas a Scum player might be more likely to think, 'crap, I've gotten some attention on myself, I need to defuse that!' So, it's all in the mindset, not the motivation. Nowhere did I attribute the Scumminess of your actions to be Scum-motivated because you're right, why on Earth would Scum do something wrong like that? There's no reason. But a Scum has different things in mind, and so might act a little differently.
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Jun 30, 2011 16:50:16 GMT -5
Post by special on Jun 30, 2011 16:50:16 GMT -5
if the non-lynch-leaders reain fairly tied, I'm open to suggestions for Night 1's investigation. also, I'm at the hospital currently - it has now been 14 hours since the wife's water broke - so there is a good chance I'll be less active for the next few days, but I will make a point of logging in long enough to request and report on my investigation(s), baby be damned! Most moderators allow you to submit your Night actions early, so you can always just send it in now. Also, congrats and good luck!
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Jun 30, 2011 16:56:24 GMT -5
Post by LightFoot on Jun 30, 2011 16:56:24 GMT -5
if the non-lynch-leaders reain fairly tied, I'm open to suggestions for Night 1's investigation. also, I'm at the hospital currently - it has now been 14 hours since the wife's water broke - so there is a good chance I'll be less active for the next few days, but I will make a point of logging in long enough to request and report on my investigation(s), baby be damned! Most moderators allow you to submit your Night actions early, so you can always just send it in now. Also, congrats and good luck! Congrats to the new one Also some Mods will allow you to change your mind as long as it is before the deadline (you could ask) that way if you did have brain storm you would not be locked into your early request>
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Jun 30, 2011 17:12:26 GMT -5
Post by cassidyscarlet on Jun 30, 2011 17:12:26 GMT -5
Boy or Girl?
And Ed, that does have a lot more logic in there, though it is a tad annoying since it's hard to rebut a hypothetical situation.
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Jun 30, 2011 17:25:29 GMT -5
Post by special on Jun 30, 2011 17:25:29 GMT -5
Boy or Girl? And Ed, that does have a lot more logic in there, though it is a tad annoying since it's hard to rebut a hypothetical situation. same logic, just communicated better ;D
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Jun 30, 2011 17:30:45 GMT -5
Post by cassidyscarlet on Jun 30, 2011 17:30:45 GMT -5
A POX UPON YOU
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Jun 30, 2011 19:09:58 GMT -5
Post by LightFoot on Jun 30, 2011 19:09:58 GMT -5
If I die, for the record, I told you so. But you haven’t told us anything. Your votes today have been for non attendance and your current vote is on someone who voted you. Can you make a case against anyone?
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Jun 30, 2011 21:29:23 GMT -5
Post by Deni on Jun 30, 2011 21:29:23 GMT -5
Oh my goodness, I got a surprise visit from my Mom (she is 12hrs away) and forgot I was playing a game. oops... Tomorrow is Canada Day so I will be out all day until late tomorrow night but I will be around for Saturday and Sunday. I will do my best to catch up as soon as possible.
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Jun 30, 2011 22:32:29 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Jun 30, 2011 22:32:29 GMT -5
What've you got against red pandas? YOMANK Tea in nose Wow, first time I've seen someone else use Yomank. And, ewwwww!
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Jun 30, 2011 22:36:30 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Jun 30, 2011 22:36:30 GMT -5
Vote Count
Trepa Mayfield (8) : Guiri, LightFoot, SilverJan, Colby11, Suburban Plankton, Captain Pinkies, Cassidy Scarlet, Archangel Special Ed (1) : Fubbleskag Sister Coyote (1) : Moodymitchy CassidyScarlet (1) : JustBeingGinger SilverJan (1): Trepa Mayfield
Day 1 ends in just under 3 days, 24 minutes, 36 seconds
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Jun 30, 2011 22:37:58 GMT -5
Post by Trepa Mayfield on Jun 30, 2011 22:37:58 GMT -5
If I die, for the record, I told you so. But you haven’t told us anything. Your votes today have been for non attendance and your current vote is on someone who voted you. Can you make a case against anyone? I did make a case against Silver Jan. Just because she's voting for me doesn't make it invalid. Half the players are voting for me or absent; I'm not going to conjure a case out of thin air just to look neutral.
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Jul 1, 2011 0:38:19 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Jul 1, 2011 0:38:19 GMT -5
I second that, What?! Care to describe in detail why? I know you want an answer to what I said but by giving you one I might unintentionally out the power roles and I don't want to do that. I am sorry if this looks a bit cagey and if you push me harder I will tell you exactly what I mean. There should be other players who do know what I mean. This is probably making things worse for me but I don't want to say more. The elephant probably did not have this in their PM.
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Jul 1, 2011 0:41:11 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Jul 1, 2011 0:41:11 GMT -5
Match Speed MetalicSquink*Outrun Silver JanOf all the people currently voting for me, her vote looks the most like bandwagon-hopping. That, along with her baffling assertion that all scum are the same animal, which makes no sense from my perspective, nor from the perspective of a town power (based on what fubbles said). *Isn't her name Metal licSquink? I did not say they WERE all the same, I said it would not surprise me if they were all the same, there is a difference.
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Jul 1, 2011 1:45:12 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Jul 1, 2011 1:45:12 GMT -5
if the non-lynch-leaders reain fairly tied, I'm open to suggestions for Night 1's investigation. also, I'm at the hospital currently - it has now been 14 hours since the wife's water broke - so there is a good chance I'll be less active for the next few days, but I will make a point of logging in long enough to request and report on my investigation(s), baby be damned! Congrats on the baby on the way! Back to the game, I would investigate someone who you thought was suspicious, or had a hunch about. I played the cop role once, and it was so frustrating trying to figure out who I should investigate (even though I was killed that night by the scum)
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Jul 1, 2011 2:25:26 GMT -5
Post by special on Jul 1, 2011 2:25:26 GMT -5
I second that, What?! Care to describe in detail why? I know you want an answer to what I said but by giving you one I might unintentionally out the power roles and I don't want to do that. I am sorry if this looks a bit cagey and if you push me harder I will tell you exactly what I mean. There should be other players who do know what I mean. This is probably making things worse for me but I don't want to say more. The elephant probably did not have this in their PM. Well, you've outed yourself
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Jul 1, 2011 2:27:54 GMT -5
Post by special on Jul 1, 2011 2:27:54 GMT -5
if the non-lynch-leaders reain fairly tied, I'm open to suggestions for Night 1's investigation. also, I'm at the hospital currently - it has now been 14 hours since the wife's water broke - so there is a good chance I'll be less active for the next few days, but I will make a point of logging in long enough to request and report on my investigation(s), baby be damned! Congrats on the baby on the way! Back to the game, I would investigate someone who you thought was suspicious, or had a hunch about. I played the cop role once, and it was so frustrating trying to figure out who I should investigate (even though I was killed that night by the scum) Investigating Town is at least as good as finding Scum. Unless you're going to find all the Scum. See, as you confirm Town by investigating them, the Scum will be forced to either kill them or continue hunting for the doctor. If they don't kill the confirmed by investigation Town players, we'll eventually have a rather large pool of confirmed players. And, a pool of say 3 confirmed Town at EndGame is much better than 3 dead Scum out of 5.
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