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Day 2
Jul 9, 2011 8:11:48 GMT -5
Post by Deni on Jul 9, 2011 8:11:48 GMT -5
Hey Pinkies ...snipped... Typically I would be on your bandwagon for a good lynch, but it gets pointless and tiring... I understand life gets busy but to come on not post a thing helpful. LOL - "pointless and tiring"? After blowing up, I would have thought you got scared off from voting for him. ;D
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Day 2
Jul 9, 2011 10:15:52 GMT -5
Post by JustBeingGinger on Jul 9, 2011 10:15:52 GMT -5
Hey Pinkies ...snipped... Typically I would be on your bandwagon for a good lynch, but it gets pointless and tiring... I understand life gets busy but to come on not post a thing helpful. LOL - "pointless and tiring"? After blowing up, I would have thought you got scared off from voting for him. ;D Being blown up on Night 1 in that game was not what I had in mind. Really really glad there is no Bomb in this game.
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Day 2
Jul 9, 2011 11:45:40 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Jul 9, 2011 11:45:40 GMT -5
I love Caps drink recipes but it would be so much more fun if he actually voted for someone Sorry about the bomb JBG!
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Day 2
Jul 9, 2011 11:48:23 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Jul 9, 2011 11:48:23 GMT -5
Hey Deni, have you any ideas about Scum? or are you scum again:)
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Day 2
Jul 9, 2011 12:05:21 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Jul 9, 2011 12:05:21 GMT -5
Guiri In post 272 on Day 1, when Trepa posted her PM, you accused her of posting a cover PM. After Trepa flipping Town, this comment seems suspicious to me. Care to explain your comment? Did you read the rest of my post where I explained why I didn't believe his claim? I thought his reaction to SilverJan was inconsistent with his PM that said he was a "Lemming (Vanilla Town)" and it made me even more confident in my vote. Sure, I was wrong, it happens. We now know that at least one VT didn't consider the likelihood that all VTs were Lemmings and that's the reason I'm hesitant to vote either you or Moody based on the same reasoning. We all make mistakes. I thought I would ask you what you were thinking, to see your point of view. It would have been really easy to post a fake PM if the scum were provided them, but I don't see that happening for the simple reason that Meeko never gave a sample PM for the game, therefore I don't think he would have given the scum a cover PM either.
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Day 2
Jul 9, 2011 12:16:02 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Jul 9, 2011 12:16:02 GMT -5
@ Colby, I think every PM may have been a little bit different so that's why Meeko didn't do a cover PM and I tend to agree with you that he didn't give scum a cover role but........in one of the games I played, all the scum had a choice of a role (I know this cos I was scum in that game). So, as gnarly wants to know, how many different lemmings are there could be relevent to scum, they could just go and pick a "real Lemming" role and hope the rest of us don't google it. (Well that won't happen now)
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Day 2
Jul 9, 2011 15:37:06 GMT -5
Post by guiri on Jul 9, 2011 15:37:06 GMT -5
Some questions and snips: The deciding factor was the fact that fubbleskag did have the term 'rabid' in his PM. Before that, it was a term that may or may not have had an 'official' meaning in the game, so the fact that Trepa independently 'coined' it was curious, but not suspicious. Earlier you claimed that you changed your mind after Meeko and Fubbles confirmed that the word had an in-game relevance. I've already pointed out the fact that Meeko had made the statement before I voted. Now you're claiming that the term "may or may not have had an 'official' meaning in the game" even after the Moderator spontaneously clarified that the term was the in-game term for scum? What's next? Back to the questions at hand, why not reveal the first reason? I agree that it's not pro-town, but that decision is up to you Huh? What do you agree with? There may be a thousand different types of Lemmings but if there were, say, only 5 different Main types then that would give scum a good heads up on who had the power roles. What did you mean by this?
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Day 2
Jul 9, 2011 15:41:03 GMT -5
Post by guiri on Jul 9, 2011 15:41:03 GMT -5
We all make mistakes. I thought I would ask you what you were thinking, to see your point of view. Fine. Is my point of view clear now? It would have been really easy to post a fake PM if the scum were provided them, but I don't see that happening for the simple reason that Meeko never gave a sample PM for the game, therefore I don't think he would have given the scum a cover PM either. Your default assumption is that the Mod messed up and wouldn't rectify if necessary? Having 10 Lemmings with similar sounding PMs and neither a sample PM nor cover roles for scum would be game-breaking and I know how much Meeko dislikes games being "broken". @ Colby, I think every PM may have been a little bit different so that's why Meeko didn't do a cover PM I presume you mean sample PM. Cover PMs are only given to non-Town. and I tend to agree with you that he didn't give scum a cover role but........ Your default assumption is also that the mod messed up and wouldn't rectify if necessary?
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Day 2
Jul 9, 2011 16:22:49 GMT -5
Post by moodymitchy on Jul 9, 2011 16:22:49 GMT -5
I wasn't accusing Guiri of fishing, I was just curious as to where he thinks I've been telegraphing some information about some sort of power role ??
I asked the question because I could have come back and appeared over defensive about something that wasn't there.
I too stated the possibility that Trepa Mayfield (as SCUM) might have been supplied with a cover role . Obviously with the information we now have. I was wrong about that.
I'm now curious as to why Silver Jan on Day one, hinted at some sort of role ... all hush hush like and then is seen to have to "claim" Vanilla.... Maybe she is the one using the "cover" PM.
I think that without many votes being laid down (which can be changed) then some people will just say as little as possible...
Outrun Archangel
Your "magic bag" I can't say at the moment it's anti TOWN comment is really pinging me at the moment.
If you've seen something regarding SCUM then surely it's best to share it.
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Day 2
Jul 9, 2011 17:30:54 GMT -5
Post by guiri on Jul 9, 2011 17:30:54 GMT -5
I wasn't accusing Guiri of fishing, I was just curious as to where he thinks I've been telegraphing some information about some sort of power role ?? As I said in that very same post, I thought your reaction to SilverJan's comments gave a stronger indication that you are non-vanilla than Cassidy's pox. I asked the question because I could have come back and appeared over defensive about something that wasn't there. Which question? All you said was this: Hmmmm interesting comment there ... fishing maybe
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Day 2
Jul 9, 2011 18:50:10 GMT -5
Post by moodymitchy on Jul 9, 2011 18:50:10 GMT -5
Maybe you never saw it as a question. Although there were others that thought I might be attempting to smudge you.
Some people have different ideas of what a smudge might be. Only you will know whether you were fishing or not.
Now if you were.... it would lead me to think you might be one of the bad guys...
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Day 2
Jul 9, 2011 18:52:13 GMT -5
Post by moodymitchy on Jul 9, 2011 18:52:13 GMT -5
Like you say... apparently you think my reaction to Silver Jan gave off a vibe that to you reeks of a power...
Well stronger than Cassidys "pox" comment
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Day 2
Jul 9, 2011 21:10:09 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Jul 9, 2011 21:10:09 GMT -5
Vote Count Captain Pinkies (1) : Special Ed Texcat (1) : Inner Stickler Guiri (1) : Silver Jan Archangel (1) : moodymitchy
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Didn't realize I had that many votes outstanding.
Did I miss any ?
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Day 2
Jul 9, 2011 22:15:36 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Jul 9, 2011 22:15:36 GMT -5
Because it would take forever to quote your comments, and I'd rather answer them in one post real quickly for you, Guiri
In regards to post 96, the comment that i made "Back to the questions at hand, why not reveal the first reason? I agree that it's not pro-town, but that decision is up to you " is in reference to Archangel, and that she had two thoughts about me (see post 40 in Day 2), but she did not reveal the first reason.
As to the other question regarding the cover PM and no sample PM, the reasoning why I think there is no cover PM is because there is no sample PM. In my mind, it doesn't make sense to not make a sample PM, then give the scum cover PM's. I have been wrong in the past.
Of course, the arguement that every PM was different, so therefore the Mod couldn't make a sample PM could be true. How am I supposed to know? I'm playing the game, not looking through the roles in the spoiler section
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Day 2
Jul 10, 2011 9:08:05 GMT -5
Post by guiri on Jul 10, 2011 9:08:05 GMT -5
Maybe you never saw it as a question. Although there were others that thought I might be attempting to smudge you. Well, it was a drive-by smudge. I wasn't fishing, just responding to your comment on Cassidy. Like you say... apparently you think my reaction to Silver Jan gave off a vibe that to you reeks of a power... I don't think you are a Town power role, I used the term "non-vanilla" because I'm leaning scum on you. If I'd had a Town read on you, there's no way I'd have mentioned it and, if I were scum, I'd have kept it for the scum thread. Outrun Moody- your "on the fence" comment about my vote on Trepa in D1#91 - typical of scum waiting to see which way the tide would flow before committing to a vote - your reaction to SilverJan's comment in D1#240 that other players would understand why she thinks scum could all be the same animal in D1#175 - your suggestion in D1#313 that I was trying to dictate who Fubbles should investigate - your comment that Colby shouldn't be given a free pass but then effectively giving him a free pass by avoiding to comment on the case against him - your comment that it wouldn't have been hard for scum to make up a VT PM. Given SilverJan's earlier comments, her statement that Trepa's sounded similar, and the fact that Trepa's PM was real, I doubt a VT would think it likely that it was faked - your suggestion in D2#5 that someone look over Cassidy's posts looks like a scum attempt to mislead Town given how easily you could have checked them yourself - your accusation that I was fishing in D2#98 and subsequent explanation - your vote on Archangel, she specifically said that she's now less suspicious of Colby as she no longer believes her reason for finding him suspicious valid
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Day 2
Jul 10, 2011 9:37:49 GMT -5
Post by guiri on Jul 10, 2011 9:37:49 GMT -5
I'd really like to hear some thoughts toDay from CIAS, Storyteller, SisterCoyote and Fubbleskag. I know CIAS and Story have difficulty posting at the weekend but the Day started on Thursday. I hope Liam is well and Fubbles gets a chance to post before Day end. I can't find anything from SisterCoyote to explain her absence. In regards to post 96, the comment that i made "Back to the questions at hand, why not reveal the first reason? I agree that it's not pro-town, but that decision is up to you " is in reference to Archangel, and that she had two thoughts about me (see post 40 in Day 2), but she did not reveal the first reason. How can you agree it's not pro-town to reveal the reason if you don't know what the reason is? And yet you still ask her to reveal it? Or were you agreeing that something else was not pro-Town?
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Day 2
Jul 10, 2011 9:37:52 GMT -5
Post by Deni on Jul 10, 2011 9:37:52 GMT -5
Hey Deni, have you any ideas about Scum? or are you scum again:) LOL - no & no I have been so busy that I feel like I am still trying to catch up. The truth is I think you opened up a can of worms from your orginal comment about thinking all scum were the sama animal. Reactions from some people have made me think that they could either be scum or a power player. Others have made me think they are either "lemmings" or masons. So I guess I lied, I have ideas just not sure I ready to share them yet.
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Day 2
Jul 10, 2011 9:43:53 GMT -5
Post by JustBeingGinger on Jul 10, 2011 9:43:53 GMT -5
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Day 2
Jul 10, 2011 10:02:32 GMT -5
Post by JustBeingGinger on Jul 10, 2011 10:02:32 GMT -5
So in looking at who jumped on the Trepa bandwagon, Cap Pinkies sticks out the most to me. He just followed suit of everyone else.
I am still suspicious of SP for his switch on Trepa.
For now,
Outrun Cap Pinkies
For his bandwagon (going with the majority) vote and his lack of participation (I know shocker).
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Day 2
Jul 10, 2011 11:07:35 GMT -5
Post by moodymitchy on Jul 10, 2011 11:07:35 GMT -5
Blimey I hadn't realised I'd posted so much ;D
guiri could you at least have the decency to use my full username when you vote me ... I try my best to use peoples full usernames when I post... just a little gripe of mine...
And Archangel said she had 2 reasons for being suspicious of colby11 . And although she states she is less suspicious of him now... she is reluctant to let us know what one of the reasons was.
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Day 2
Jul 10, 2011 13:51:28 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Jul 10, 2011 13:51:28 GMT -5
Outrun Guiri
I don't know whether it's me or not, but it seems like Guiri is skimming posts a bit. It seems I have to interpret every single thing that I say for him to understand, which leads to even more questions. It just reeks of skimming and/or not understanding what I am saying.
I do understand that we need to communicate in order to find scum, it just seems like you are picking on me and moodymitchy a bit more because we are more vocal.
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Day 2
Jul 10, 2011 15:04:06 GMT -5
Post by LightFoot on Jul 10, 2011 15:04:06 GMT -5
~~snip~~ Sure, I was wrong, it happens. We now know that at least one VT didn't consider the likelihood that all VTs were Lemmings and that's the reason I'm hesitant to vote either you or Moody based on the same reasoning. Underling mine………… I’m not sure what you are referring to here? Are you claiming Vanilla? Or did I miss something? [I don’t have a lot of computer time and my DD turned 12 today – I did want to post something ]
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Day 2
Jul 10, 2011 15:42:16 GMT -5
Post by guiri on Jul 10, 2011 15:42:16 GMT -5
I don't know whether it's me or not, but it seems like Guiri is skimming posts a bit. It seems I have to interpret every single thing that I say for him to understand, which leads to even more questions. It just reeks of skimming and/or not understanding what I am saying. I have yet to understand your comment to Archangel but, apart from that, can you give one example of skimming and/or not understanding what you are saying? I do understand that we need to communicate in order to find scum, it just seems like you are picking on me and moodymitchy a bit more because we are more vocal. You're not concerned that I've questioned Suburban Plankton and SilverJan toDay also? As for picking on you, yesterDay you were close to being lynched, I was pretty confident that Trepa was scum and suspected you may be Town and possibly a power role despite the case against you and, as you weren't going to be around until after the end of the Day, I asked people to reconsider their votes on you in D1#299 and suggested that the cop investigate you instead. When Trepa flipped Town, I realized I may have been mistaken about you (as well) and so wanted to get a clearer read on you toDay. I started by asking you to comment on the D1 votes against you in D2#13, you seemed to handwave the case in D2#28. You didn't comment on my response in D2#32. In #62 you asked me to explain my accusation that Trepa posted a cover PM, I replied in #66 pointing out that I'd explained in the same post you referred to. You said that you didn't think scum were given cover roles in #94, a continuation of your #62, and I questioned that assumption in #97. The only post that I didn't understand was #59 where you agreed it was not pro-town for Archangel to reveal her reason for suspecting you but then asked to do so anyway.
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Day 2
Jul 10, 2011 16:01:28 GMT -5
Post by guiri on Jul 10, 2011 16:01:28 GMT -5
~~snip~~ Sure, I was wrong, it happens. We now know that at least one VT didn't consider the likelihood that all VTs were Lemmings and that's the reason I'm hesitant to vote either you or Moody based on the same reasoning. Underling mine............ I'm not sure what you are referring to here? Are you claiming Vanilla? Or did I miss something? [I don't have a lot of computer time and my DD turned 12 today - I did want to post something ] Trepa's PM indicated that all VTs are Lemmings but he didn't seem aware of this fact: when SilverJan said that other players would understand why she suggested that all scum could be the same animal, he deduced she was soft-claiming mason, not that she could be a fellow VT. /oog Birthday greetings to your DD!
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Day 2
Jul 10, 2011 17:55:30 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Jul 10, 2011 17:55:30 GMT -5
Aaaaaaaagggggghhh!
I went on vacation last Wednesday to Washington DC. I fully expected to be fully participatory, with Internet access from the hotel room. Unfortunately, I was unable to make the connection work and wound up with no access at all for five days. I'm home, and I'll catch up tomorrow. Sorry, folks.
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Day 2
Jul 10, 2011 19:26:02 GMT -5
Post by fubbleskag on Jul 10, 2011 19:26:02 GMT -5
sorry all, babies are more time consuming than I'd expected. I am lurking/reading, just haven't had more than a few minutes of peace yet to try to put together any type of useful contribution. at absolute worst, I will make sure I'm submitting and reporting investigations daily - for the time being, until/unless someone changes my mind, I'm in the 'only report scum results' school of thought. thanks!
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Day 2
Jul 10, 2011 19:34:52 GMT -5
Post by special on Jul 10, 2011 19:34:52 GMT -5
sorry all, babies are more time consuming than I'd expected. I am lurking/reading, just haven't had more than a few minutes of peace yet to try to put together any type of useful contribution. at absolute worst, I will make sure I'm submitting and reporting investigations daily - for the time being, until/unless someone changes my mind, I'm in the 'only report scum results' school of thought. thanks! also please report if we are going to lynch someone you got a Town result on. Time consuming. yes, that's one way to look at it. My youngest is 15, and I'm just getting my own life back. Wouldn't trade it for the world though
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Day 2
Jul 10, 2011 21:45:30 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Jul 10, 2011 21:45:30 GMT -5
Vote Count Captain Pinkies (2) : Special Ed, JustBeingGinger Guiri (2) : Silver Jan, colby11 Texcat (1) : Inner Stickler Archangel (1) : moodymitchy Moodymitchy (1) : Guiri
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Day 2
Jul 11, 2011 2:01:46 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Jul 11, 2011 2:01:46 GMT -5
There may be a thousand different types of Lemmings but if there were, say, only 5 different Main types then that would give scum a good heads up on who had the power roles. I meant that if there were only 5 different types of Lemmings then there could possibly be only 5 VT, this is just guess work mind you and I haven't googled how many different types of Lemmings there are but I think I will.
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Day 2
Jul 11, 2011 2:11:14 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Jul 11, 2011 2:11:14 GMT -5
There a loads of different types of Lemmings.
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