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Post by Deni on Oct 21, 2011 21:28:17 GMT -5
Wow... not only did you misrepresent or skim over pretty much every thing I said yesterDay, you managed to be as mean about it as you could.... when did you turn into such a bitch? That was rude. I don't know whether to smuck you across the head or vote you for being rude... "smack!!!" smartin up... be nice!!! Interesting questions. But the answers wouldn't really shed any light on my alignment, would they? Yes, you can not like how I've played, that's fine. But where is there any indication that playing this way would have a perceived benefit to me if I were Scum? Because it doesn't require you to take a stance on anything? Allows you to just cruise along for the majority of the game under the guise that you "aren't doing anything scummy". But maybe you're right... maybe this is the best way to play... after Sinjin's latest post, I think I'm just gonna take a page out of your book and just troll the thread with random non-alignment indicating posts that don't really help anyone find scum. My first thought with Special Ed's game play was that maybe he was scum because he is playing different then I have seen him before. I've never played with Special Ed when he has been scum yet, but oddly enough I don't think he is scum and I find his game play intriguing.
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Post by Inner Stickler on Oct 21, 2011 22:50:37 GMT -5
You really don't see the justification for Drain Bead's claim? Interesting. ) Was the first bit directed at me? Yes. The page wasn't loading properly and cut off behind your post or I'd have quoted it. I apologize for the lack of context.
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Post by moodymitchy on Oct 21, 2011 23:20:55 GMT -5
@sinjin
My "ditto" post was exactly that. Just an expression of surprise that colby11 had used the name (in what appeared to be a possible ongoing conversation) to a palyer that hadn't even posted in the game yet.
And for those of you (Special Ed I think was one) that are pointing out that Drain Bead HAD claimed before their post stating that they weren't in danger of a lynch..
I realise this and that's what bugs me. The fact that they had claimed... How did they know how the votes might go. Probably just different to how I would have played it.
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Post by special on Oct 21, 2011 23:38:51 GMT -5
@ sinjinMy "ditto" post was exactly that. Just an expression of surprise that colby11 had used the name (in what appeared to be a possible ongoing conversation) to a palyer that hadn't even posted in the game yet. And for those of you ( Special Ed I think was one) that are pointing out that Drain Bead HAD claimed before their post stating that they weren't in danger of a lynch.. I realise this and that's what bugs me. The fact that they had claimed... How did they know how the votes might go. Probably just different to how I would have played it. Here's a simplified timeline: 1. Drain Bead is in no real danger of being lynched. 2. Drain Bead makes final post before claiming. 3. Drain Bead suddenly approaches a very real possibility of being lynched. 4. Drain Bead returns and claims. 5. Drain Bead comments about how the post wasn't last minute and she wasn't in danger of being lynched (referring back to 1 & 2 not 4) So, drain had no foresight into being in danger. At least, that's how it seems to me.
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Post by Colby11 on Oct 22, 2011 0:41:44 GMT -5
colby11 and their post instructing the Doc to protect Drain Bead late on yestrDay is one that stood out to me too... Even disregarding the "slip" with a name at the start of Day 1. I wonder what their motives were for this post... Why protect a tracker whose actions we don't know yet.. One possibility for me would be that SCUM (if indeed colby11 is SCUM) , have a watcher... so yeah great get the Doc to protect a "claimed" power... watch the "claimed" power and see who visits him that Night.... nice way to flush out the Doc me thinks... Quite honestly, I didn't think about scum having a Watcher, MoodyMitchy. Stands to reason that if Town has a Tracker, then it is quite possible that scum could have a Watcher. I quite honestly agree with the other points that you made, as far as being a power that really doesn't help Town that much. Sure, it can become very useful if DB gets lucky, but I'm just hoping that Town has a few more power roles. I am also a bit concerned about if we have a 3rd party or not. (Says in the rules that there COULD be multiple factions). I think that if we do have a 3rd party, it would probably be a survivor role, and therefore not harmful to anyone.
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Post by Colby11 on Oct 22, 2011 0:57:45 GMT -5
Kinda confused what to do as far as today, but thinking about the game today during work, something came to my mind that bugged me. Oh dear, I certainly didn't mean to start a bandwagon on Colby, it was a D1 vote and the best that I could do at the time, it's nice to have more information now. Maybe it's just me, but it reeks of trying to cover your actions. While yes, you didn't single-handedly start a bandwagon, the way you stated it like that does sound like you are trying to cover your bases. Vote: Silver Jan
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Post by Colby11 on Oct 22, 2011 1:00:33 GMT -5
Unofficial Vote Count for Day 2
Silver Jan (2)-Honest Moley, Colby11 Mr. Special Ed (1)- JustbeingGinger JustbeingGinger (1)- Sister Coyote
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Post by Colby11 on Oct 22, 2011 1:06:43 GMT -5
Here is what my thoughts are for the time being:
Drain Bead giving us the reveal is a catch 22. While he was slightly in danger, he wasn't the lynch leader, and he would of had the opportunity to change his vote to save himself, if needed. I don't think that it warranted the reveal, and it makes me wonder whether he is telling us the truth or not. I don't think that it warrants a lynch right now, there are bound to be 4 other scum IF Drain Bead is scum. (based on the numbers)
JustbeingGinger and Special Ed's arguement between the two of them has me wondering what exactly is going on. That, coupled with Ed not voting at the end of Day 1, does send a warning signal too.
Just where is peeker anyways? Already 24 hours in, and I don't think we've seen hide or hair of peeker (and I think a few others too...like zuma and deon, two people that I called out 3 or 4 nights ago)
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Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Oct 22, 2011 1:57:26 GMT -5
Unofficial Vote Count for Day 2 Silver Jan (2)-Honest Moley, Colby11 Mr. Special Ed (1)- JustbeingGinger JustbeingGinger (1)- Sister Coyote Bah!
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Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Oct 22, 2011 1:58:32 GMT -5
Oh sorry... I was trying out my Ed impression... check the rules.... players who didn't vote get a penalty vote toDay... another reason I thought it was odd that Ed unvoted and didn't place a new vote.
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Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Oct 22, 2011 2:01:30 GMT -5
There was a commotion behind Sam's Stop N' Go, as three (or four, as some witnesses would have it), men had gathered around the dumpster of the only gas station in town.
"Okay you have that end right? Okay one, two, three --"
One of the men fumbles, and drops something, a dismembered cow mayhaps but a human corpse more likely, which lands on the ground with a wet, meaty thud.
"Come on. We don't have all the time in the world to be dickin' out behind here. Just get the body in the dumpster and lets skedaddle."
And so they did.
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Morning.
One of the town's 4 policeman and the coroner examine the scene behind Sam's Stop N' Go, with the body dragged out after taking a photograph and noting every little footprint.
The men behind this were not that through.
Although they had burned the victim's fingerprints off and mutilated his face beyond recognition, they had left the body clothed, and his pockets unturned.
And in the wallet, the identity of the badly mutilated man was ascertained.
The Don, Mafia Godfather and somewhat decent guy, murdered pre-game. He had a small farm house nearby, a perfect (or so it seemed) get away from his duties back home in the Big City.
Someone was making a power play in town, and it wouldn't be long before a bloody gang were to erupt.
Fortune struck when 21 witnesses came forth, But things were not destined to be that simple.Alright, the rules are taken from elsewhere. Read them, for there may be things you are not used to. Rules: 1. Massclaims are not advised, and I have taken precautions against them. They will not help, and they will be kind of unfun, so don't do it. 2. Days will be up to 120 hours (5 days) long. Nights will be NO MORE than 48 hours - if all actions are in, day will start early (and will still end at 8 PM CST on the appropriate day.) 3. When voting, remember to bold your votes! You do NOT need to specify unvotes. If I make a mistake, feel free to correct me. 4. ALL COMMUNICATION WILL BE DONE THROUGH QUICKTOPICS. There will be no reason to PM me about anything. THIS INCLUDES IRC. 5. IF YOU EDIT OR DELETE POSTS YOU WILL FACE THE MOD FIRING SQUAD! 5.5. DON'T SHARE QUICKTOPICS. EVEN IF YOU ARE COALIGNED AND W/E. 5.5.5. DON'T TALK TO PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE GAME EITHER. Yeah, I know, I know. Shush. 6. No ciphers. They're a distaction that only tests people's ability to crack ciphers. HOWEVER, if you have an uncrackable code, you MAY post in it. 7. After you die you can make one post that cannot contain any information about the game. 8. You may not post in the thread at night. 9. There may be some minor bastardry, but no roles that change other's alignment, no jesters, none of that. 10. There may be multiple factions! 11. Every player has to make at least one post per day. If they will not be able to make a post on that day, I will inform the players in the day start post. 12. Play to your win condition, always. 13. Karkat Rule: No faking day-activations of anything, on pain of modkill. There may or may not be day powers! 14. Karkat Rule 2: If a day-activation of something is used stop posting, and wait for the mod to resolve the action. 15. Don't copy/paste from QTs, thank you. Regarding Votes and Lynches: Lynching is by Plurality - That is whoever receives the most votes will be lynched. [glow=green,2,300] Voting is required - any non-voters will receive penalty votes for the following day.
[/glow] Votes, unvotes and day power activations should be in the following format: Vote: ParanoiaUnvote: Paranoia<Daypower>: Paranoia.... I snipped the rest...
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Post by deon on Oct 22, 2011 4:13:43 GMT -5
Colbt was vehemently defended by paul to be supposedly town, i still get a bad vibe for this defense, and therefor my vote is:
Vote: Paul
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Post by deon on Oct 22, 2011 4:15:08 GMT -5
**Sum mistakes on that post**
Colby was vehemently defended by paul to be supposedly town, i still get a bad vibe for this defense, and therefor my vote is:
Vote: Paul
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Post by moodymitchy on Oct 22, 2011 4:34:09 GMT -5
Vote colyby11
I wasn't particularly happy with what might or might not have been a slip yesterDay.
Then we have you instructing the Doc as to who they should target Night 1. Which I have already said was most likely not in TOWNS best interests and which , you yourself in hindsight agree with.
But then you place a vote on Silver Jan because of a post where she states that she hadn't intended to start a bandwagon on you...
You say it sounds over defensive (my interpretation of your words) and was trying to cover all bases..
Honest Moley has a vote on her too which goes into a lot more detail as to why yet, you use none of this...
I feel you have found a train that might gain speed so want to jump on it early...
Oh and there was your complete mis spelling / writing call it what you will... of Drain Bead's name. In my opinion not a helpful thing to do at all.
Blimey another thing.... how do you KNOW that
This to me seems to be just an acceptance of the square root theory.. without taking into consideration and 3rd party / pfk's that could affect the balance of the game.
@Paulwhoisaghost. From what you say regarding the rules... are you saying you feel that those who didn't vote (assuming they knew they'd be getting a penaly vote) are more likely TOWN ?
I must admit it was a rule that I had forgotten.. I still feel though that if you have a vote, you should use it.
@deon I believe you were a non voter yestewrDay. Have you been informed of any penalty against you ?
Lastly... given that Drain Bead has said that they have received some results but would rather not reveal them just yet... I guess we can rule out the Mass role block.
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Post by Drain Bead on Oct 22, 2011 6:02:37 GMT -5
I find it intriguing that the bandwagon on Colby seems to have lost its steam. A lot of people (myself included) are sort of poking at oddities like the Death Bead thing, but I think only one person is actually voting for him. I wonder why that is?
Vote: Silver Jan
I think she made a slip earlier, and if she did, we've found two Scum. Also, did she ever explain why she cared that a person whose alignment she's not supposed to know if she's Town "looks Scummy"?
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Post by Silver Jan on Oct 22, 2011 6:47:08 GMT -5
I find it intriguing that the bandwagon on Colby seems to have lost its steam. A lot of people (myself included) are sort of poking at oddities like the Death Bead thing, but I think only one person is actually voting for him. I wonder why that is? Vote: Silver Jan [/color] I think she made a slip earlier, and if she did, we've found two Scum. Also, did she ever explain why she cared that a person whose alignment she's not supposed to know if she's Town "looks Scummy"?[/quote] I haven't made a slip, Deni is my friend and when she doesn't vote it usually means she is scum so I was poking her. A nice little wagon forming on me again! At least I know who to keep an eye on. Vote Colby11for reasons stated earlier
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Post by deon on Oct 22, 2011 6:58:24 GMT -5
Vote colyby11I wasn't particularly happy with what might or might not have been a slip yesterDay. Then we have you instructing the Doc as to who they should target Night 1. Which I have already said was most likely not in TOWNS best interests and which , you yourself in hindsight agree with. But then you place a vote on Silver Jan because of a post where she states that she hadn't intended to start a bandwagon on you... You say it sounds over defensive (my interpretation of your words) and was trying to cover all bases.. Honest Moley has a vote on her too which goes into a lot more detail as to why yet, you use none of this... I feel you have found a train that might gain speed so want to jump on it early... Oh and there was your complete mis spelling / writing call it what you will... of Drain Bead's name. In my opinion not a helpful thing to do at all. Blimey another thing.... how do you KNOW that This to me seems to be just an acceptance of the square root theory.. without taking into consideration and 3rd party / pfk's that could affect the balance of the game. @ Paulwhoisaghost. From what you say regarding the rules... are you saying you feel that those who didn't vote (assuming they knew they'd be getting a penaly vote) are more likely TOWN ? I must admit it was a rule that I had forgotten.. I still feel though that if you have a vote, you should use it. @ deon I believe you were a non voter yestewrDay. Have you been informed of any penalty against you ? Lastly... given that Drain Bead has said that they have received some results but would rather not reveal them just yet... I guess we can rule out the Mass role block. Not been informed yet mitch
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Post by special on Oct 22, 2011 8:06:09 GMT -5
Here is what my thoughts are for the time being: Drain Bead giving us the reveal is a catch 22. While he was slightly in danger, he wasn't the lynch leader, and he would of had the opportunity to change his vote to save himself, if needed. I don't think that it warranted the reveal, and it makes me wonder whether he is telling us the truth or not. I don't think that it warrants a lynch right now, there are bound to be 4 other scum IF Drain Bead is scum. (based on the numbers) By reveal, I assume you mean the role claim. You feel there wasn't enough pressure to claim. She was trailing by 1 vote and had the momentum as we approached DayEnd. I completely disagree with your opinion. I also think that you probably would disagree with it as well if you weren't trying to find something Scummy about her. JustbeingGinger and Special Ed's arguement between the two of them has me wondering what exactly is going on. That, coupled with Ed not voting at the end of Day 1, does send a warning signal too. This is a fairly empty statement. You wonder what is going on with Ginger and myself. She's poked me yesterDay. I responded and found her giving off some Scum vibes. She's voted for Scathach. ToDay, she's voted for me for not contributing, even though I contributed to 2 cases yesterDay. You really should know what's going on. None of it has been in code. You also mention that my not voting sends a warning signal. Exactly what would be my Scum motivation for not voting? Certainly you can come up with scenarios where I, as Scum, wouldn't vote. But is that truly finding motivation? no. I can come up with Scenarios where are Town, I wouldn't vote as well. Of course, the simpliest scenario is the one you've all missed: My desire to have Drain Bead lynched had been diminished when she claimed. I was available to vote at DayEnd. I could have made sure that Drain Bead wasn't lynched. By not voting, I left more room for Scum to attempt to manipulate the vote and show their true colors. Granted, that's probably not a tactic that most players would use, it is a tactic I've used in the past, and probably will again.
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Post by special on Oct 22, 2011 8:11:27 GMT -5
My first thought with Special Ed's game play was that maybe he was scum because he is playing different then I have seen him before. I've never played with Special Ed when he has been scum yet, but oddly enough I don't think he is scum and I find his game play intriguing. If you're going to snuggle with me, please don't hog the covers.
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Post by special on Oct 22, 2011 8:12:39 GMT -5
Oh sorry... I was trying out my Ed impression... check the rules.... players who didn't vote get a penalty vote toDay... another reason I thought it was odd that Ed unvoted and didn't place a new vote. and does odd = Scummy?
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Post by sinjin on Oct 22, 2011 8:12:59 GMT -5
Wow... not only did you misrepresent or skim over pretty much every thing I said yesterDay, Given that I was trying to summarize the entire day I couldn't give you any more wall space they I did. If you note my bits about your posts are longer than anyone else's. Perhaps someone else can devote an entire WoWs to you alone, I don't have time today. Can you point out where I misrepresented what you wrote? I'm sorry if I came across as mean. Some of your posts just really rubbed me the wrong way and I guess I let that show thru. I will try not to let that happen again.
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Post by Deni on Oct 22, 2011 9:51:04 GMT -5
**Sum mistakes on that post** Colby was vehemently defended by paul to be supposedly town, i still get a bad vibe for this defense, and therefor my vote is: Vote: PaulReally, I remember Paulwiag vehemently defending Sturm not Colby. Could you please use some references to back this up?
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Post by Inner Stickler on Oct 22, 2011 10:39:52 GMT -5
Sturm?
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Post by Drain Bead on Oct 22, 2011 10:45:45 GMT -5
Jan, if you are Town, how do you know that Deni is too? And if you don't know, why do you care that Deni looks Scummy? It could be that Deni IS Scum, and you alerted him or her to a flaw in play style. And given the penalties for a no vote, it might be in our best interests, depending on respective alignments.
I understand that you might be friends. I don't understand the motivation for why you care about Deni's play unless you KNOW youre on the same side.
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Post by Silver Jan on Oct 22, 2011 10:52:58 GMT -5
Jan, if you are Town, how do you know that Deni is too? And if you don't know, why do you care that Deni looks Scummy? It could be that Deni IS Scum, and you alerted him or her to a flaw in play style. And given the penalties for a no vote, it might be in our best interests, depending on respective alignments. I understand that you might be friends. I don't understand the motivation for why you care about Deni's play unless you KNOW youre on the same side. I suppose you are right, I just don't want her to be scum At the moment my head isn't totally in the game but it is a very good distraction from RL.
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Post by Deni on Oct 22, 2011 11:02:28 GMT -5
awww crap... I should never had posted with out looking through my notes... never again am I playing two games at the same time with most of you people... so confusing. I had a brain fart - sorry guys. If you all could be so kind as to ignore my stupidity here that would be appreciated... **Sum mistakes on that post** Colby was vehemently defended by paul to be supposedly town, i still get a bad vibe for this defense, and therefor my vote is: Vote: PaulReally, I remember Paulwiag vehemently defending Sturm not Colby. Could you please use some references to back this up? Please ignore, I obviously got confused with the 2 games nights ending at the same time.
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Post by Silver Jan on Oct 22, 2011 11:05:24 GMT -5
What is the problem with names in this game? lol
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Post by Colby11 on Oct 22, 2011 11:12:35 GMT -5
Vote colby11I wasn't particularly happy with what might or might not have been a slip yesterDay. Then we have you instructing the Doc as to who they should target Night 1. Which I have already said was most likely not in TOWNS best interests and which , you yourself in hindsight agree with. But then you place a vote on Silver Jan because of a post where she states that she hadn't intended to start a bandwagon on you... You say it sounds over defensive (my interpretation of your words) and was trying to cover all bases.. Honest Moley has a vote on her too which goes into a lot more detail as to why yet, you use none of this... I feel you have found a train that might gain speed so want to jump on it early... Oh and there was your complete mis spelling / writing call it what you will... of Drain Bead's name. In my opinion not a helpful thing to do at all. Blimey another thing.... how do you KNOW that This to me seems to be just an acceptance of the square root theory.. without taking into consideration and 3rd party / pfk's that could affect the balance of the game. @ Paulwhoisaghost. From what you say regarding the rules... are you saying you feel that those who didn't vote (assuming they knew they'd be getting a penaly vote) are more likely TOWN ? I must admit it was a rule that I had forgotten.. I still feel though that if you have a vote, you should use it. @ deon I believe you were a non voter yesterDay. Have you been informed of any penalty against you ? Lastly... given that Drain Bead has said that they have received some results but would rather not reveal them just yet... I guess we can rule out the Mass role block. Going back to me asking the Doctor to protect someone, I wasn't thinking about scum having a Watcher, to be honest. It was also the last hour or so. The number of scum is just an assumption on my part, and based on prior experience. Well, we can knock off something on the list, at least...
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Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Oct 22, 2011 11:13:39 GMT -5
**Sum mistakes on that post** Colby was vehemently defended by paul to be supposedly town, i still get a bad vibe for this defense, and therefor my vote is: Vote: PaulReally, I remember Paulwiag vehemently defending Sturm not Colby. Could you please use some references to back this up? You're playing too many games... that's the game on the GB
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Post by Deni on Oct 22, 2011 11:19:01 GMT -5
Really, I remember Paulwiag vehemently defending Sturm not Colby. Could you please use some references to back this up? You're playing too many games... that's the game on the GB yeah... not my most brillant move...
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