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Post by special on Dec 11, 2011 12:52:37 GMT -5
Either way, I'm content with lynching him. Worst case scenario, he's telling the truth... at least in that situation we didn't lose a townie and all of the confusion and uncertainty surrounding him goes away. And we've wasted an entire day on a player whose death has no effect on our wincon, not to mention the vote record shows us absolutely nothing other than a rough sketch of when people logged into the site. Wait...you're sure we've wasted the Day? How do you know he's not Scum?
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Post by special on Dec 11, 2011 12:53:51 GMT -5
I'm interested in the little chat that sinjin and Caerie have been having... I find it interesting that sinjin is quite happy to accept that Caerie just happened to miss the whole of the claim post by colby11. Yes I know it happens sometimes but I just feel that some people would have been a little more intense in their questioning of it. I've no wish for discussion to stop and I do agree with Inner Stickler that it means that discussion may be somewhat quite just because we decide that colby11 is a good enough target. I still hold that as an admitted Non member of the Blue team, I want him gone. I agree that at this moment he doesn't seem to be a threat to the Blue team but there could come a point where he is a threat. Also, the way I read the PM. He has been able to target each Night. Why is he then, with holding information about who else he has targeted. Or do I have that part wrong ? Mr Special Ed..... what are your thoughts on this matter ? Colby is a lying Scum Scotsman piece of crap.
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Post by Inner Stickler on Dec 11, 2011 14:05:44 GMT -5
Sigh.
If paul's worst case scenario is true, (and I think it is) then we lynched a survivor which is a waste of the day, because no one talked about jack shit and there's no useful vote record. Lynching a survivor is nothing more than a spitelynch.
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Post by special on Dec 11, 2011 14:09:28 GMT -5
Sigh. If paul's worst case scenario is true, (and I think it is) then we lynched a survivor which is a waste of the day, because no one talked about jack shit and there's no useful vote record. Lynching a survivor is nothing more than a spitelynch. I still think he's lying Scum.
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Post by Inner Stickler on Dec 11, 2011 14:44:35 GMT -5
That's cool.
There's still no discussion or vote record.
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Post by Colby11 on Dec 11, 2011 14:51:57 GMT -5
Sigh. If paul's worst case scenario is true, (and I think it is) then we lynched a survivor which is a waste of the day, because no one talked about jack shit and there's no useful vote record. Lynching a survivor is nothing more than a spitelynch. I still think he's lying Scum. Why do you think I'm a lying scum scotsman?
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Post by special on Dec 11, 2011 14:52:09 GMT -5
That's cool. There's still no discussion or vote record. And your contribution to toDay? Oh, yeah, sinjin has changed her vote a lot.
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Post by Colby11 on Dec 11, 2011 14:55:05 GMT -5
I'm voting him because I believe him to be Scum. His statements are self-serving and inconsistent, and the role PM he provided is too detailed and colorful compared to the rest of the game. Self-serving... Well I am a survivor... I kinda am on my own.... Inconsistant? If you want to believe that.... My PM is too detailed and colorful compared to the rest of the game? Yep, something smells here (and it isn't my decomposing life in this game)
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Post by LightFoot on Dec 11, 2011 16:26:20 GMT -5
I'm voting him because I believe him to be Scum. His statements are self-serving and inconsistent, and the role PM he provided is too detailed and colorful compared to the rest of the game. Self-serving... Well I am a survivor... I kinda am on my own.... Inconsistant? If you want to believe that.... My PM is too detailed and colorful compared to the rest of the game? Yep, something smells here (and it isn't my decomposing life in this game) I think most of us recieved PM's that were pretty generic. Although looking at Bill's explaination of his he got more details. But that really doesn't help this case, does it?
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Post by LightFoot on Dec 11, 2011 16:27:54 GMT -5
FWIW I think the easy vote- add no substance- today is counter productive for Town I made a comment about the Caerie/scathach show but no one thinks it’s anything.( I will try to research this connection more later) www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=wedlockgame&action=post&thread=1786"e=84556&page=1I still don’t like SisC ‘s votes and lack of substance behind them. All of the Days. Even ToDay, An early comment about Colby and an obvious set up to drop a vote there late ( probably without having to make a case again ) It seems y’all don’t read/ understand what I’m seeing but that’s OK ( maybe I’m dog boning this one but it’s what I see) I agree with the players that are pushing for more convo. Even if you are voting Colby make a second/third case. The day will be partially wasted if we don’t Vote: SisC
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Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Dec 11, 2011 16:35:50 GMT -5
FWIW I think the easy vote- add no substance- today is counter productive for Town I made a comment about the Caerie/scathach show but no one thinks it’s anything.( I will try to research this connection more later) www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=wedlockgame&action=post&thread=1786"e=84556&page=1I still don’t like SisC ‘s votes and lack of substance behind them. All of the Days. Even ToDay, An early comment about Colby and an obvious set up to drop a vote there late ( probably without having to make a case again ) It seems y’all don’t read/ understand what I’m seeing but that’s OK ( maybe I’m dog boning this one but it’s what I see) I agree with the players that are pushing for more convo. Even if you are voting Colby make a second/third case. The day will be partially wasted if we don’t Vote: SisC [/color][/quote] I think it's intriguing, but in and of itself, I'm not ready to vote based on it... I think the Colby issue is better to resolve than jumping on what seems odd... the two statements are very similar, but half of ach of them conflicts with the other....
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Post by LightFoot on Dec 11, 2011 16:46:50 GMT -5
FWIW I think the easy vote- add no substance- today is counter productive for Town I made a comment about the Caerie/scathach show but no one thinks it’s anything.( I will try to research this connection more later) www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=wedlockgame&action=post&thread=1786"e=84556&page=1I still don’t like SisC ‘s votes and lack of substance behind them. All of the Days. Even ToDay, An early comment about Colby and an obvious set up to drop a vote there late ( probably without having to make a case again ) It seems y’all don’t read/ understand what I’m seeing but that’s OK ( maybe I’m dog boning this one but it’s what I see) I agree with the players that are pushing for more convo. Even if you are voting Colby make a second/third case. The day will be partially wasted if we don’t Vote: SisC [/color][/quote] I think it's intriguing, but in and of itself, I'm not ready to vote based on it... I think the Colby issue is better to resolve than jumping on what seems odd... the two statements are very similar, but half of ach of them conflicts with the other....[/quote] I did bring it up before I researched more. ( and I shall) Wanted to get it out there, incase someone else saw more to it . I agree- it's not quite vote worthy (yet) - since my vote is not there. One never knows how long one is going to live. so....
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Post by special on Dec 11, 2011 17:00:15 GMT -5
I still think he's lying Scum. Why do you think I'm a lying scum scotsman? Because I think you would have claimed when up for the lynch if you were truly Survivor. Not that it's likely to have helped. I'm thinking that, after surviving, you worked hard to come up with an explanation. It obviously took a while. You didn't mention anything before being lynched. You didn't mention anything that Night (why not? Hadn't discussed it with your teammates yet?) You waited and waited. Scummy Scummy lying Scummy Scum you are.
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Post by Inner Stickler on Dec 11, 2011 17:04:55 GMT -5
That's cool. There's still no discussion or vote record. And your contribution to toDay? Oh, yeah, sinjin has changed her vote a lot. I never said I was a star player. But at the end of the day when colby flips either scum or thirdparty, what do we have from you besides a bunch of posts saying that he's scum? In other words, you could have saved yourself a hell of a lot of typing and just waited for day end. Humor me for just a moment and looking at everything else, if you couldn't vote for colby, who would you want to vote for?
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Post by special on Dec 11, 2011 17:34:10 GMT -5
And your contribution to toDay? Oh, yeah, sinjin has changed her vote a lot. I never said I was a star player. But at the end of the day when colby flips either scum or thirdparty, what do we have from you besides a bunch of posts saying that he's scum? In other words, you could have saved yourself a hell of a lot of typing and just waited for day end. Humor me for just a moment and looking at everything else, if you couldn't vote for colby, who would you want to vote for? No, but thanks for asking.
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Post by Inner Stickler on Dec 11, 2011 18:57:30 GMT -5
Why not?
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Dec 11, 2011 19:49:10 GMT -5
And your contribution to toDay? Oh, yeah, sinjin has changed her vote a lot. I never said I was a star player. But at the end of the day when colby flips either scum or thirdparty, what do we have from you besides a bunch of posts saying that he's scum? In other words, you could have saved yourself a hell of a lot of typing and just waited for day end. Humor me for just a moment and looking at everything else, if you couldn't vote for colby, who would you want to vote for? ah AskthePizzaGuy style! because that's not his playstyle.
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Post by special on Dec 11, 2011 20:06:37 GMT -5
Either I'm not really paying attention, or I don't want to give the Scum any insight into what Im thinking, or I just don't want to.
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Post by Drain Bead on Dec 11, 2011 21:07:52 GMT -5
If it weren't for Colby I'd be voting for you. Does that help, IS?
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Post by Inner Stickler on Dec 11, 2011 22:03:12 GMT -5
Not really.
I guess I'll see you all on Tuesday at 8:30 then. Next time, let me know in advance so I don't waste my time trying to play the game.
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Post by Colby11 on Dec 12, 2011 1:09:10 GMT -5
Why do you think I'm a lying scum scotsman? Because I think you would have claimed when up for the lynch if you were truly Survivor. Not that it's likely to have helped. I'm thinking that, after surviving, you worked hard to come up with an explanation. It obviously took a while. You didn't mention anything before being lynched. You didn't mention anything that Night (why not? Hadn't discussed it with your teammates yet?) You waited and waited. Scummy Scummy lying Scummy Scum you are. I would have claimed yesterday if I had paid attention to EOD.
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Post by Colby11 on Dec 12, 2011 1:09:48 GMT -5
Not really. I guess I'll see you all on Tuesday at 8:30 then. Next time, let me know in advance so I don't waste my time trying to play the game. Sorry for wasting your time, Inner. Not exactly been my best game
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Post by moodymitchy on Dec 12, 2011 7:03:13 GMT -5
If it wasn't for colby11 being a certain NON Blue Team lynch.. toDay.
I would be voting sinjin or Caerie
Does that help ? No it's not a voting record but I am happy to voice my other slight suspicions... Though I do feel that I'd actually done that earlier.
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Post by CatInASuit on Dec 12, 2011 7:43:19 GMT -5
Day 4 Vote Count
Colby11 (6): Special Ed(#2), PWIAG (#6), moodymitchy(#12), sinjin(#13), scathach(#15), Drainbead(#21)
Special Ed (1): colby11(#36) sinjin (1): Inner Sticker(#53) Sister Coyote (1): lightfoot(#69)
Not Voting: Sister Coyote, JustBeingGinger, GnarlyCharlie, storyteller, Caerie
With these votes colby11 will be lynched
Day ends in approx 31 hours.
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Post by Caerie on Dec 12, 2011 8:44:07 GMT -5
I still think lynching Colby is going to end up being a wasted Day. Sure, there's still a chance he's scum, but it seems far more likely to me that he's telling the truth and the majority of players aren't trying very hard to go scum-hunting at all. To win we need to kill off the scum, remember, not third party players.
I guess we'll see in a few hours here whether or not he's telling the truth, won't we?
Vote sinjin
I was a little less sure of this after Paranoia was revealed to be town, since I'd assumed her votes on him were just placeholders on another scum. But her play style continues in trying not to stand out too much. Weak cases when she's on her own and otherwise staying with the crowd? Suddenly dropping a bandwagon she was forming against a townie, to go hide among another group? Yeah, that looks scummy to me.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Dec 12, 2011 8:59:57 GMT -5
And we've wasted an entire day on a player whose death has no effect on our wincon Hey, all, re-reading and commenting and trying to catch up after my series of unfortunate events. Regarding the above, @stickler: How do you know this? Because he said so? Did you expect him to just say, "hey, I'm Scum?" Or "hey, I'm a malicious third party mad bomber?" What possible reason do you have for swallowing his claim so entirely as to assume that the day was wasted and the death will not affect our win condition? Note that I am not really smudging you here. If you were Scum, you'd know that colby is not, but you wouldn't know whether he is a survivor-type third party (and therefore harmless to the hypothetical Scum you) or a third party with an exclusive win con (and therefore someone you should want lynched as quickly as possible). I don't understand your reasoning here.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Dec 12, 2011 9:04:24 GMT -5
Sure, there's still a chance he's scum, but it seems far more likely to me that he's telling the truth Again, I find it very strange that so many players are ignoring the third possibility: that he is neither Scum nor telling the truth. I sincerely doubt that colby made up that PM all on his own, but it would be easy enough to modify a malicious third party PM into an innocuous one and that's an option that few seem to be even considering. Now to take a look at everything else.
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Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Dec 12, 2011 11:06:23 GMT -5
Sure, there's still a chance he's scum, but it seems far more likely to me that he's telling the truth Again, I find it very strange that so many players are ignoring the third possibility: that he is neither Scum nor telling the truth. I sincerely doubt that colby made up that PM all on his own, but it would be easy enough to modify a malicious third party PM into an innocuous one and that's an option that few seem to be even considering. Now to take a look at everything else. Thank you! Everyone keeps going on about him either being scum or 3rd party... and I've said a couple of times I think he's scum or a PFK... The gadget he had doesn't make sense as a survivor role... it makes perfect sense for a PFK though... I know, because it randomly got passed to me. Gaining the gadget did not change my wincon, it just gave me th epower to use it. Apparently "The Duplicator" makes it so that the target's collar responds to a second frequency. It doesn't do away with the first frequency... When I asked the mod for clarification on what the second frequency was, whether or not it was my frequency (thus binding them to me), or how the second frequency would be activated.... I got back a lot of "no comment"s. I think the gadget adds the same second frequency that Colby was using.... but I think Colby has the power to activate any collars that respond to that second frequency. Remember, he claimed in his PM that if he controlled 4 collars he could leave. I think that's his wincon, to control the collars of 4 living people. Which is why Bill dying was a worst case scenario for him... because Bill had the second frequncy... him dying is a step away from Colby's wincon. Anyway... I have the stupid gadget... but I'm sure as hell not going to use it.
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Post by LightFoot on Dec 12, 2011 11:35:19 GMT -5
Again, I find it very strange that so many players are ignoring the third possibility: that he is neither Scum nor telling the truth. I sincerely doubt that colby made up that PM all on his own, but it would be easy enough to modify a malicious third party PM into an innocuous one and that's an option that few seem to be even considering. Now to take a look at everything else. Thank you! Everyone keeps going on about him either being scum or 3rd party... and I've said a couple of times I think he's scum or a PFK... The gadget he had doesn't make sense as a survivor role... it makes perfect sense for a PFK though... I know, because it randomly got passed to me. Gaining the gadget did not change my wincon, it just gave me th epower to use it. Apparently "The Duplicator" makes it so that the target's collar responds to a second frequency. It doesn't do away with the first frequency... When I asked the mod for clarification on what the second frequency was, whether or not it was my frequency (thus binding them to me), or how the second frequency would be activated.... I got back a lot of "no comment"s. I think the gadget adds the same second frequency that Colby was using.... but I think Colby has the power to activate any collars that respond to that second frequency. Remember, he claimed in his PM that if he controlled 4 collars he could leave. I think that's his wincon, to control the collars of 4 living people. Which is why Bill dying was a worst case scenario for him... because Bill had the second frequncy... him dying is a step away from Colby's wincon. Anyway... I have the stupid gadget... but I'm sure as hell not going to use it. Wait, you have colby's gadget? OR Bill's ?
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Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Dec 12, 2011 11:39:29 GMT -5
Colby's
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