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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Sept 17, 2012 20:20:06 GMT -5
We also have some strong personalities (peeker) which I think adds an interesting dynamic and provides a challenge The strong personalities along with the complexity is definitively a new twist! As for Pleo Claiming N0 seemed to have made sense in the last game. It gave you an interesting way to twist all of our heads. What if his win condition is to die D1/N1? Or within the first 3 days or so? I don't know if that's a possibility, but maybe he's trying to play us into lynching him off the bat this time?
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 17, 2012 20:40:23 GMT -5
<snip> Anyway, unless I hear an overwhelming number of players disagreeing, I'm going to be using my powers to confirm myself. So, I'm going to be posting the minimal number of posts to enable that. If need be, I'll post my responses to the Day at Night, when the number of posts don't matter. This is because you are unsure of your own role and designation?? Pretty sure he means to use his powers to try and confirm in our eyes that he is what he says he is. Other phrases in this family: Mod-confirmed - when by way of a statement made b the Moderator, a player's name/faction is unveiled. Used in a relevant sentence: Peeker is now mod-confirmed as Deadpool. Semi-confirmed - when mechanics of the game come close to unveiling someone's name/role. Example: A 3-man town-aligned masonry where two masons have died. The dead masons are now mod-confirmed thanks to their death reveals as town-aligned masons. Before they died, the dead masons stated that their masonry numbered 3 but did not name their 3rd co-mason. Player X claims to be the last mason and is not counter-claimed. Player X is semi-confirmed as the 3rd mason.
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Post by Colby11 on Sept 17, 2012 20:40:46 GMT -5
Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't know of a win con yet that is to get yourself killed quickly...
Someone correct me if I am wrong, however
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Post by LightFoot on Sept 17, 2012 20:52:22 GMT -5
Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't know of a win con yet that is to get yourself killed quickly... Someone correct me if I am wrong, however There are a few from past games
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Sept 17, 2012 20:55:53 GMT -5
Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't know of a win con yet that is to get yourself killed quickly... Someone correct me if I am wrong, however I'm completely speculating. I have been on vacation, and now celebrating the Jewish Holidays. I haven't had time yet to go back and look at what all of the roles Guiri posted in N0 did/didn't do. It just seems odd to me that a 3rd party would claim for no real reason?
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Post by Red Skeezix on Sept 17, 2012 21:03:45 GMT -5
Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't know of a win con yet that is to get yourself killed quickly... Someone correct me if I am wrong, however The Jester role traditionally involves getting yourself lynched or killed on a certain day or night. But I think it unlikely that pleo's a jester, since there are far easier ways to get oneself lynched on D1. @rick beckman: Even if he confirms that his powers exist, he is not confirming that he has them, only that someone has them, and not saying anything about his alignment. He'd like us to think that confirming his powers confirms him, but that is unmitigated bologna. With regards to pleo's claim: I'm gonna ignore it for now, since it's a 99% worthless piece of information at this point (there is no real context to judge the claim), however if we have a compulsive vig, I think you know who to shoot at without harming town's chances, as I think it unlikely that a town player would claim 3rd party. Plus, this is a gastard game so the roles will probably not be very straight laced. So at this point, I'm taking the "Move along, nothing to see here." tack (for now). As far as peekers claim. I can never tell with peeker, but the claim he's made is the softest of soft. The piece of information that your role name is either iron man or deadpool is even more worthless than pleo's claim.
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Post by Red Skeezix on Sept 17, 2012 21:05:08 GMT -5
NETA: That @ should be at cookies not Rick.
Also, pleo, you of ALL people should know that confirmed power implies only that powers exist and nothing else.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 17, 2012 21:19:03 GMT -5
No argument here.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Sept 17, 2012 21:24:05 GMT -5
Yeah, that about makes sense to me, too, and is my usual tack with pleo.
Please also note that while peeks as iron man was designated town by color, peeks as deadpool was not. What that means, I dunno, but it seemed worth noting.
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Post by Red Skeezix on Sept 17, 2012 21:27:55 GMT -5
It should be obvious why I claimed. It should be obvious why any non-hostile third-party should claim early. A non-hostile third-party doesn't hurt town; it's a mislynch to lynch us. A non-hostile third-party doesn't hurt scum; it's a waste to a Night-kill to kill us. This is a pile of assumptions. How could you possibly know this without knowing what the hostile win conditions are? I say you can't and if your claim is legit then you made a hasty choice.
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Post by Red Skeezix on Sept 17, 2012 21:29:30 GMT -5
Yeah, that about makes sense to me, too, and is my usual tack with pleo. Please also note that while peeks as iron man was designated town by color, peeks as deadpool was not. What that means, I dunno, but it seemed worth noting. I feel like i missed something wrt to peeker. Was he mod confirmed to be iron man before he was mod confirmed to be deadpool? I need to go back and check.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Sept 17, 2012 21:42:03 GMT -5
No, looks like I misread. Carry on.
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Post by Colby11 on Sept 17, 2012 21:44:43 GMT -5
@sisc- Maybe you were referring to Peeker's lines in the opening color being blue?
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 17, 2012 21:49:59 GMT -5
The Dawn's color was colored blue for the references of Peeker having referred to himself as being Ironman. I'm not inclined to put much weight in the Mods color or the Mods color of the color for that matter.
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Post by peekercpa on Sept 17, 2012 22:04:57 GMT -5
Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't know of a win con yet that is to get yourself killed quickly... Someone correct me if I am wrong, however uh dude unless you have lived on tahiti for the last couple of decades there are plenty. please try to get with the program.
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Post by peekercpa on Sept 17, 2012 22:11:09 GMT -5
The Dawn's color was colored blue for the references of Peeker having referred to himself as being Ironman. I'm not inclined to put much weight in the Mods color or the Mods color of the color for that matter. thank fucking og that someone is at least tracking. jeebuz it's really not that hard folks. vote cookies
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Post by sinjin on Sept 17, 2012 22:14:14 GMT -5
It should be obvious why I claimed. It should be obvious why any non-hostile third-party should claim early. A non-hostile third-party doesn't hurt town; it's a mislynch to lynch us. A non-hostile third-party doesn't hurt scum; it's a waste to a Night-kill to kill us. This is a pile of assumptions. How could you possibly know this without knowing what the hostile win conditions are? I say you can't and if your claim is legit then you made a hasty choice. This is also a pile of horse shit. Every day must be a Pleo day. If he hadn't said anything he could have presented his results later when they were useful to town or he was under suspicion. But nooooo he can't wait for that he has to come out on N0 for Og's sake. Can't even wait for Day 1 anymore. He's always supposedly non-hostile and we just have to believe him and take him at his word or "waste" an investigation on him if we don't kill him right away. And in this game he is going to waste his power for 3 Days by confirming himself. Bleh I waffle between just ignoring him and voting him on day one every game. I have to wonder if his real goal is to die Day1 more than any other mafia player. Bleh, let me help you Pleo vote Pleo
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 17, 2012 22:17:13 GMT -5
You would rather I consider the Mods Dawn color of the color as indicative of some deeper meaning then, I take it, Peeker?
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Post by Inner Stickler on Sept 17, 2012 22:50:36 GMT -5
This is a pile of assumptions. How could you possibly know this without knowing what the hostile win conditions are? I say you can't and if your claim is legit then you made a hasty choice. The rules of the game? If he's nonhostile, he knows by that very designation that he does not affect town or scum wincons, town and scum both by their nature being hostile.
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Post by patricia on Sept 17, 2012 22:59:46 GMT -5
Well, this game is off to a rocket start - I feel like I have jumped into the deep end without a life jacket. At least we have a week before we need to vote. As for now I feel the need to vote for pleo and meeko for stirring up the mud from last game
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Post by Meeko on Sept 17, 2012 23:02:39 GMT -5
I don't necessarily see Pleo's PM as contradictory with respect to his claimed powers and win conditions for one reason: Non-participation happens. Sometimes it happens in the best of games and to the best of players and for non game-related reasons. A Mod trying to design a role (and an apparently neutral role at that) with mechanics to work with this assumption rather than trying to design a game based on the (faulty) premise that non-participation won't happen makes sense to me. I stated as much near end of N0
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Post by crys on Sept 17, 2012 23:06:19 GMT -5
Well, this game is off to a rocket start - I feel like I have jumped into the deep end without a life jacket. At least we have a week before we need to vote. As for now I feel the need to vote for pleo and meeko for stirring up the mud from last game Patricia ignore the icky icky rotten wifom from your last game. I really really really have been wanting to vote pleo too, but I wonder if all the voting helps him in some way. Like if that was his pm, but only part of it.....Pleo has his own agenda and I think it is hidden behind a huge cask of wine
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Post by Meeko on Sept 17, 2012 23:09:52 GMT -5
Well, this game is off to a rocket start - I feel like I have jumped into the deep end without a life jacket. At least we have a week before we need to vote. As for now I feel the need to vote for pleo and meeko for stirring up the mud from last game I was stirring mud up from the last game? This is news to me.
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Post by Meeko on Sept 17, 2012 23:12:16 GMT -5
Vote Count Please
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Post by KidVermicious on Sept 17, 2012 23:13:41 GMT -5
You people voting for Pleo, what are you scared of? To quote his post from N0:
Assuming he's telling the truth, if he follows through with his plan he'll be mod confirmed the morning of D4. If not, he can be dealt with then.
Used to be, when a person made a testable claim we tested it. Has that changed, on this board?
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Post by patricia on Sept 17, 2012 23:14:31 GMT -5
Pleo claims, Meeko votes for him... hmmm.... I have heard this tale before
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Post by Meeko on Sept 17, 2012 23:17:17 GMT -5
Well, this game is off to a rocket start - I feel like I have jumped into the deep end without a life jacket. At least we have a week before we need to vote. As for now I feel the need to vote for pleo and meeko for stirring up the mud from last game Patricia ignore the icky icky rotten wifom from your last game. I really really really have been wanting to vote pleo too, but I wonder if all the voting helps him in some way. Like if that was his pm, but only part of it.....Pleo has his own agenda and I think it is hidden behind a huge cask of wine Again, this is the Jester role. There are roles that win the game if they get lynched. I wonder if there are event triggers on the merc bid and or merc bid manipulators.
It would suck if someone could have a bid multiplier, and win, by bidding less.
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Post by Meeko on Sept 17, 2012 23:19:16 GMT -5
You people voting for Pleo, what are you scared of? To quote his post from N0: Assuming he's telling the truth, if he follows through with his plan he'll be mod confirmed the morning of D4. If not, he can be dealt with then. Used to be, when a person made a testable claim we tested it. Has that changed, on this board? KIDWhat is the test for a scum claiming town detective?
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Post by patricia on Sept 17, 2012 23:20:19 GMT -5
What really sucks is trying to learn all the terms used in the game without - getting mislynched or looking like a newbie - oh wait I am a newbie
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Post by Meeko on Sept 17, 2012 23:20:48 GMT -5
Pleo claims, Meeko votes for him... hmmm.... I have heard this tale before Tell me Pat, what was the second line of that one again? The punchline never grows old.
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