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Post by Suburban Plankton on Sept 26, 2012 11:03:19 GMT -5
<snip> I don't see anything in here that suggests that Designation is relative; that is, that a player's Designation depends on their relation to the player investigating them. It seems quite clear, for example, that a Town Player has Designation = Hostile. Period. Because their Win-Condition 'ends the game and exclude other Parties (i.e. Scum) from winning'. So an Investigation of a Town player will return a Designation of Hostile, regardless of who is doing the Investigation. In fact, it would appear that all players have a Hostile Designation unless they are Nonhostile Third Party...unless we have a 'Third Faction' with it's own Wincon that is independent of the rest. There is this from rules and regulations: www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=poll&thread=2035&page=1#97275In the words of the late, great, Gilda Radner... "Oh... ...never mind."
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Post by Inner Stickler on Sept 26, 2012 11:06:45 GMT -5
When have I ever said I don't like you? I think you're barking up completely the wrong tree and wasting everyone's time but that's totally different.
I never said there was a power that will reveal win conditions but there's almost assuredly a town hostile/nonhostile detective. Heck, there may even be the Truth detector from Alice in the mix. Or that role that was allowed to PM the mod one question every Night. I'm just saying that you're attempting to set in stone things that aren't solid yet. Gelatin, maybe, but not stone.
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Post by KidVermicious on Sept 26, 2012 11:15:12 GMT -5
When have I ever said I don't like you? I think you're barking up completely the wrong tree and wasting everyone's time but that's totally different. I never said there was a power that will reveal win conditions but there's almost assuredly a town hostile/nonhostile detective. Heck, there may even be the Truth detector from Alice in the mix. Or that role that was allowed to PM the mod one question every Night. I'm just saying that you're attempting to set in stone things that aren't solid yet. Gelatin, maybe, but not stone. I can handle rude, I can handle stubborn, and I can handle wrong. I can't deal with all three at the same time, and I won't. Let me know when you're ready to not be one of those things.
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Post by Pleonast on Sept 26, 2012 11:16:39 GMT -5
I don't know if you're being disingenuous or not paying attention. You'd lie to achieve your wincon, of course. If you aren't Town, we don't know your wincon and can't trust you. It doesn't need to go any further than that. You screwed up by informing us we can't trust you, and you've kinda hurt Town in the process by making everybody focus on you instead of on scum hunting. If you really want Town to win, you'll stop fighting this losing battle and let us move on. We're going to lynch you as soon as we don't have a better scum target, which is probably going to be Tomorrow unless you button it. You lost when you claimed, Pleo. That was your bad. Please let the rest of us make the most of it, huh? Yep, you sure don't want town to get any investigations from me, do you?
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Post by Inner Stickler on Sept 26, 2012 11:17:23 GMT -5
Same to you, buddy.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Sept 26, 2012 11:23:22 GMT -5
Don't make me pull this thread over, you two.
Oh, man, the Truth Detector. I will never, ever put one of those in a game again.
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Post by Pollux Oil on Sept 26, 2012 11:33:49 GMT -5
Night ends in ~30 minutes.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 26, 2012 11:39:31 GMT -5
FWIW, I haven't gotten any personal attack vibes from Inner or anyone else so far this game, even with all of the references to Arkham2 of which Pleo and I have very different opinions. I mean, heck, my comment to Meeko about Jeb Bush et al was snarkier and I like the guy.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 26, 2012 11:40:35 GMT -5
AND someone took away one of the Karma points I had when the game started.
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Post by Inner Stickler on Sept 26, 2012 11:42:16 GMT -5
I lost a karma point too, and I didn't have all that many to begin with.
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Post by KidVermicious on Sept 26, 2012 11:43:28 GMT -5
AND someone took away one of the Karma points I had when the game started. Well here, have it back.
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Post by KidVermicious on Sept 26, 2012 11:53:56 GMT -5
I don't know if you're being disingenuous or not paying attention. You'd lie to achieve your wincon, of course. If you aren't Town, we don't know your wincon and can't trust you. It doesn't need to go any further than that. You screwed up by informing us we can't trust you, and you've kinda hurt Town in the process by making everybody focus on you instead of on scum hunting. If you really want Town to win, you'll stop fighting this losing battle and let us move on. We're going to lynch you as soon as we don't have a better scum target, which is probably going to be Tomorrow unless you button it. You lost when you claimed, Pleo. That was your bad. Please let the rest of us make the most of it, huh? Yep, you sure don't want town to get any investigations from me, do you? Lol, yeah, because it's so hard to stay out of the bottom 20% of posters. Lord knows you can find me there all the time . Way to redirect, Pleo. I guess that's all you can do, you certainly can't substantively argue with anything I said in that post. We can't put stock in anything you say. You're smart enough to know this, and I'm certainly smart enough to know you know this . All you've got at this point is rhetoric and innuendo, and that's not an argument. I said you lynched yourself when you claimed, and that's 100% true. I don't know if you didn't think it through or just hoped that we wouldn't think it through, but you messed up either way. If you really are non-hostile, then you've messed Town up as well.
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Post by Pollux Oil on Sept 26, 2012 12:00:44 GMT -5
Night's over. Save the rest of your arguing for the Day thread.
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