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Post by patricia on Jul 19, 2013 10:01:59 GMT -5
Colby I'm town and would be happy to post my PM if we go with a mass claim - I wish you would have made more noise about Pizza as I was going by my PM to his but the point you made today about results would have made me doubt his claim - but the watchers PM was also different in the results color. So color me confused
As of today Plankton is looking a little scummy as it seems he is trying to find all of town's power roles Granted it is not much but it all I see so far today. Vote: Suburban Plankton
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Post by texcat on Jul 19, 2013 11:44:51 GMT -5
There were 3 people who wanted to postpone the resolution of the Gnarly/Pizza claims. Pleo is dead town. Mahaloth is claimed mason. Vote: CookiesShe has told us her reasons for postponing the resolution, but it seems to me that the 1-for-1 trade was bad for scum and the only way it might have been worth it for scum was to postpone the resolution, leaving Pizza alive a while longer. I don't know if Suburban is still the best lynch in light of Pizza's claim. I think I'd rather get resolution on the counter-claim in hand with a gnarly lynch now. Cookies was originally in favor of a Gnarly lynch, but when Pleo suggested postponing, she and Pizza both jumped on the idea. Pizza later backed off, but Cookies stuck with it. She spent a considerable amount of time on Day 1, arguing with Meeko. This kept her active without actually doing any scum hunting. She's mentioned her suspicions, but hasn't laid out the cases on her suspicions, and hasn't voted. It looks to me like scum trying to get a wagon started, but not actually wanting credit for starting one.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Jul 19, 2013 12:25:46 GMT -5
There were 3 people who wanted to postpone the resolution of the Gnarly/Pizza claims. Pleo is dead town. Mahaloth is claimed mason. Vote: CookiesShe has told us her reasons for postponing the resolution, but it seems to me that the 1-for-1 trade was bad for scum and the only way it might have been worth it for scum was to postpone the resolution, leaving Pizza alive a while longer. So you think the postponement was all a scum gambit by me and Pizza and the other scummers, but in order for it to work we had to get Pizza to take a leap of faith fake claim while pulling a Jedi Mind Trick on the town Miller so that Pleo would be the one to propose waiting, and also convince a Mason to go along with it? Here's a novel idea for you: The postponement was advocated by three townspeople because it was solid strategy that may have kept the Town Dick alive. And one lying scumbag who we now know couldn't be trusted to begin with, and who was trying to get Vig outed. So you don't see anything favorable about having the cop able to share investigation results, and continue surviving? It is all just doom and gloom? At the very least, we could catch my killer in the act, provided our Watcher does her job. I don't see the three of us surviving for that long, but valuable information can still be gained from this. Lynching the scum is optimal, but forcing them to kill me is nearly as optimal. If you're town, which I doubt, this is confirmation bias. I had one initial idea, considered another idea, and changed my mind. The only way this narrative you present reads as scummy is if I start the scenario already scummy. It does not illustrate any scumminess. Nice to know that you're that sure that arguing with Meeko != arguing with scum. Also, scum hunting can be indirect as well as direct. When you know that someone keeps gunning after townies, you can point that out to them in the hopes that they stop. You and 2 other people have voted so far. Myself and 9 other people have not yet voted. Another narrative that does nothing to illustrate scum motivations on my part.
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Post by Mahaloth on Jul 19, 2013 19:46:25 GMT -5
Wow, dead game right now. I wonder if the scum are staying silent now every time they check the thread.
Anyway, is this correct, then? Did we miss anyone?
No idea(no claim):
Jaade Texcat DarkCookies Meeko patricia Suburban
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Colby- claimed town Vig BillMC- claimed town mason Dizzy- claimed town watcher Mahaloth - claimed town mason
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Post by Mahaloth on Jul 19, 2013 19:46:57 GMT -5
Uh, please disregard my comment above this one. I did not see page 2 of this thread and thought it was dead. :embarassed:
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Post by Meeko on Jul 19, 2013 20:29:30 GMT -5
We are voting cookies now?
Ok, sure.
Vote: Cookies
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Post by texcat on Jul 19, 2013 21:33:14 GMT -5
Yes, Mahaloth, that looks correct. And I don't know about scum, but the presumed town, you and Bill have certainly not been that vocal. Cookies appears to be lurking and responds when I mention her. I'm afraid it doesn't look good for town with this kind of participation.
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Post by Mahaloth on Jul 19, 2013 22:29:30 GMT -5
Why are people voting for Cookies? Because texcat said so?
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Post by Meeko on Jul 19, 2013 22:58:04 GMT -5
Why are people voting for Cookies? Because texcat said so? Basically.
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Post by Mahaloth on Jul 19, 2013 23:48:10 GMT -5
Why are people voting for Cookies? Because texcat said so? Basically. Meh, how about this, then? Vote Texcat
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Jul 20, 2013 8:05:47 GMT -5
Mahaloth, I was going to go the other way....
Meeko that was really lazy and you are just sitting around lurking.... I mean I'm not that thrilled with Cookie's play, but your vote on her really pings me.
Vote: Meeko
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Post by Meeko on Jul 20, 2013 8:21:06 GMT -5
Mahaloth, I was going to go the other way.... Meeko that was really lazy and you are just sitting around lurking.... I mean I'm not that thrilled with Cookie's play, but your vote on her really pings me. And the fact that, that pings you, pings me.So where does that leave us? Did you have anything constructive to say, or is your vote just going to be backward looking too? Your vote on me is no different than mine on Cookies. You used a few more words, that's all. If I am doing something scummy, point it out. If you want to vote a lurker, throw a stone. The lurker will be the one not voting you back. Unvote: Cookies Vote: DizzyIs it OMGUS, or something else...........
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Post by Meeko on Jul 20, 2013 8:23:27 GMT -5
Meh, how about this, then? Vote TexcatHow do you read Cookies then? Is there something I'm not seeing here?
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Post by texcat on Jul 20, 2013 9:47:44 GMT -5
Why are people voting for Cookies? Because texcat said so? Basically. I did lay out the reasons I think Cookies is scum. Did you miss that post as well? I realize that you don't think that postponing the Pizza/Gnarly vote is necessarily scummy. Cookies says that she is suspicious of Suburban, Jaade, Patricia, and me. She mentions no reasons at all and does not vote. You don't find smudges like that just a little bit scummy?
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Post by Meeko on Jul 20, 2013 10:33:34 GMT -5
I did lay out the reasons I think Cookies is scum. Did you miss that post as well? I realize that you don't think that postponing the Pizza/Gnarly vote is necessarily scummy. Cookies says that she is suspicious of Suburban, Jaade, Patricia, and me. She mentions no reasons at all and does not vote. You don't find smudges like that just a little bit scummy? For the most part, much of Cookies' play gets under my skin, and I'm sure it's mutual, for the record, Pleonast gets under my skin, and into my veins, at times. One is annoying, the other annoying to death, if I am honest with myself.
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Post by Mahaloth on Jul 20, 2013 17:11:00 GMT -5
BillMC, do you have any thoughts who to kill?
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Post by Meeko on Jul 21, 2013 11:51:43 GMT -5
Does anyone have any thoughts on anything?
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Post by Meeko on Jul 21, 2013 16:37:13 GMT -5
I guess not.
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Post by texcat on Jul 21, 2013 17:25:22 GMT -5
I predict that when Bill votes, he will immediately have a bandwagon behind him. Let's just hope he chooses wisely.
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Post by Meeko on Jul 21, 2013 20:10:24 GMT -5
I predict that when Bill votes, he will immediately have a bandwagon behind him. Let's just hope he chooses wisely. Isn't this just another way of saying "Hey Bill, don't vote for me!" ?
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Post by texcat on Jul 21, 2013 20:17:49 GMT -5
No, it was more of a dig on the people who are holding back and waiting for Bill to vote. But now that you mention it, Bill, vote for Cookies and not for me!
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Post by Meeko on Jul 21, 2013 21:54:22 GMT -5
No, it was more of a dig on the people who are holding back and waiting for Bill to vote. But now that you mention it, Bill, vote for Cookies and not for me! Those holding back, and not voting or playing, And Dizzystill thinks I'm lurking. I wonder if Dizzy can even spell Jaade.
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Post by Colby11 on Jul 22, 2013 0:15:06 GMT -5
My opinion is that I am suspicious of Jaade. They come in at the last minute on Day 2, says in her first post that she doesn't want to get involved in the Gnarly/Pizza mess, and then a few posts later, votes for Gnarly.
Color me suspicious
Unvote: Patricia
Vote: Jaade
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Post by CatInASuit on Jul 22, 2013 2:39:27 GMT -5
Day 3 Vote Count:
Suburban Plankton(1): patricia (#30) Cookies(1): texcat (#31), meeko (#35-#41) texcat (1): mahaloth (#39) meeko (1): dizzymrslizzy (#40) dizzymrslizzy (1): meeko (#41) jaade (1): colby (#52)
patricia(0): colby (#21-#52) Colby(0): Jaade(#12-#13)
Not Voted: Jaade, Cookies, Suburban Plankton, BillMc
With these votes, as of post 52, Suburban Plankton will be lynched
Day ends in approx 11 1/2 hours
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Post by Meeko on Jul 22, 2013 5:20:47 GMT -5
Day 3 Vote Count:Suburban Plankton(1): patricia (#30) Cookies(1): texcat (#31), meeko (#35-#41)texcat (1): mahaloth (#39) meeko (1): dizzymrslizzy (#40) dizzymrslizzy (1): meeko (#41) jaade (1): colby (#52) patricia(0): colby (#21-#52)Colby(0): Jaade(#12-#13)Not Voted: Jaade, Cookies, Suburban Plankton, BillMc With these votes, as of post 52, Suburban Plankton will be lynched Day ends in approx 11 1/2 hours You guys make it real hard to make a gambit, you know that? We had the entire weekend, and what did we make of it? Nothing. I do not like the current vote count, how spread out and even it is. I do not like that I am one vote away from the lynch, this close to the end of day. Lets change that, shall we? I have an obligation to Town to make the best play here, for now, despite what I wanted to do. I AM THE THIRD AND FINAL MASONAgain, I had better plans for doing this, but you guys don't actively want to play in this game. Also, before, during, and after my last post, I've kinda wanted to,so this, so I will; Unvote: DIZZY Vote: JAADE
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Post by Meeko on Jul 22, 2013 6:16:47 GMT -5
Bill, Maha, I hope you understand. As I won't be able to get back to the game until after Day 3 is over (more than likely) I had to pull the trigger. I was hoping to reveal as a means to catch someone, but obviously I can't wait.
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Post by Mahaloth on Jul 22, 2013 8:39:50 GMT -5
I can confirm that Meeko is the third mason.
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Post by Mahaloth on Jul 22, 2013 8:40:55 GMT -5
I have no idea what is going on with this game and the silence. I have no real way to tell who is guilty, so I'll join Meeko.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Jul 22, 2013 10:46:32 GMT -5
Well, here I was all set to be contrite for having not managed to make it back to the thread all weekend...and I discover that almost everyone else is in the same boat as I am. Thanks for making me not feel so bad As for who we should be lynching in about 3 1/2 hours time: I'm rather suspicious of Cookies. I'm now looking the hardest at Suburban, Texcat, Jaade, and patricia. I'm actually inclined to believe all of the claims that have been made at this point. As such, a mass claim seems like it could be a useful thing right about now, to see how/if any new information impacts those reads on the claims already on the table. Patricia and Jaade have made lesser impressions on me though, I'd be more inclined to vote in Suburban or Texcat's direction right now. So you think the postponement was all a scum gambit by me and Pizza and the other scummers, but in order for it to work we had to get Pizza to take a leap of faith fake claim while pulling a Jedi Mind Trick on the town Miller so that Pleo would be the one to propose waiting, and also convince a Mason to go along with it? Here's a novel idea for you: The postponement was advocated by three townspeople because it was solid strategy that may have kept the Town Dick alive. And one lying scumbag who we now know couldn't be trusted to begin with, and who was trying to get Vig outed. If you're town, which I doubt, this is confirmation bias. I had one initial idea, considered another idea, and changed my mind. The only way this narrative you present reads as scummy is if I start the scenario already scummy. It does not illustrate any scumminess. If she suspects texcat strongly enough to call her out as Scum in two different posts, why doesn't she back that up with a vote? I'm also suspicious of patricia. She's been sailing along mostly underneath the radar, but hasn't contributed much of anything to the discussion, other than voting twice for gnarly. Colby I'm town and would be happy to post my PM if we go with a mass claim - I wish you would have made more noise about Pizza as I was going by my PM to his but the point you made today about results would have made me doubt his claim - but the watchers PM was also different in the results color. So color me confused As of today Plankton is looking a little scummy as it seems he is trying to find all of town's power roles Granted it is not much but it all I see so far today. Vote: Suburban PlanktonHere she seems to be trying to shift blame for gnarly's death to Colby, for not having "made more noise" about Pizza...because if he had, patricia would have backed him up and we would have lynched Pizza straight away...or something... And I fail to understand her criticism of me here at all. Can someone explain where I tried to "find all of town's power roles"? And of course, I see our Mason/Vigilante contingent has come out in favor of lynching Jaade. I must admit I hadn't considered her up to this point, though I can see Colby's point. Personally, I'd rather see patricia, or Cookies, lynched rather than Jaade. But I'm loathe to put us back into a two-horse race so soon before EoD considering the relative lack of participation, and considering that the movement against Jaade does appear to be mostly Town-led (which doesn't make it correct, but at least makes it 'genuine').
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Jul 22, 2013 10:50:47 GMT -5
Ah, what the heck. I'm going with my gut on this one <vote>patricia</vote>
I should be mostly around between now and EoD.
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