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Day Three
Jul 22, 2013 10:51:32 GMT -5
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Post by Jaade on Jul 22, 2013 10:51:32 GMT -5
Hi everyone. I'm sorry, I didn't expect my entire weekend to be eaten up by the orientation and my return to town but it has been. When I got back home, I discovered that our air conditioning had gone out. I've been mostly dealing with that and other house things since I got back yesterday. (I did vote in the game on GB because it was EOS but you can see my participation there and here this Day cycle have been about the same.
It would be a very bad idea to lynch me toDay, despite my horrible participation. I deserve it, but Town does not.
Be back in a sec, I want to re-read what else has gone on toDay.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Jul 22, 2013 10:52:54 GMT -5
Not sure what happened with the coding there...
vote patricia
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Day Three
Jul 22, 2013 10:55:43 GMT -5
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Post by Jaade on Jul 22, 2013 10:55:43 GMT -5
My opinion is that I am suspicious of Jaade. They come in at the last minute on Day 2, says in her first post that she doesn't want to get involved in the Gnarly/Pizza mess, and then a few posts later, votes for Gnarly. Color me suspicious Unvote: Patricia Vote: JaadeI ABSOLUTELY did not say that I didn't want to get involved in the gnarly/pizza mess. I even explained in free detail why I thought it was bad for Town to leave that decision until later.
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Post by BillMc on Jul 22, 2013 11:02:49 GMT -5
Blue town, red scum, green for a claim i'm inclined to believe at the moment
Final Day 1 Vote Count:
paranoia (5): texcat (#86), pleonast (#123), Suburban Plankton (#124), gnarlycharlie (#157), BillMc (#178) dizzymrslizzy(5): texcat (#5-#16), silverjan (#91-#162), guiri (#97), DarkCookies (#101), AskThePizzaGuy (#170), silverjan (#200), paranoia (#204)
guiri (2): colby (#2-#2), dizzymrslizzy (#19), meeko (#26), Suburban Plankton (#36-#46), gnarlycharlie (#38-#157) gnarlycharlie (2): AskThePizzaGuy (#49-#170), colby11 (#61), patricia (#82), paranoia (#153-#204), silverjan (#162-#200)
colby (1): Jaade (#79), Mahaloth (#93-#156) Pleonast (1): mahaloth (#156)
Suburban Plankton (0): guiri (#1-#97), Pleonast (#39-#123), paranoia (#74-#100) jaade (0): texcat (#16-#40), paranoia (#100-#153) Meeko (0): Suburban Plankton (#46-#124)
Final Day 2 Vote Count:
GnarlyCharlie(6): AskThePizzaGuy (#55), texcat (#106), meeko (#130), colby (#133-#177), patricia (#156), dizzymrslizzy (#157), Jaade (#184)
AskThePizzaGuy(4): BillMc (#51), GnarlyCharlie (#74), Suburban Plankton (#142), colby (#177)
Suburban Plankton(2): Pleonast (#45), Cookies (#104)
Pleonast(1): Mahaloth (#24)
Cookies(0): meeko (#6-#130) BillMc(0): AskThePizzaGuy (#8-#55) DizzyMrsLizzy(0): colby (#37-#133)[/font] Colby(0): GnarlyCharlie (#43-#74)
The Living: 1. Jaade 2. texcat 3. DarkCookies 5. patricia 8. Suburban Plankton 4. meeko 6. colby 7. mahaloth 9. BillMc 10. dizzymrslizzy
So within our pool of living unknowns, we likely have 3 scum, the doc and 1 other
Pizza was a blocker - so tonight the scum cannot stop the watcher, doc, or vig from acting - but they could have a redirect, which makes colby a risk - but the watcher could be watching the vig.
If we assume there are 3 remaining scum, and they are in the pool of five then this could play out several ways: - the doc claims, the unknown pool shrinks to 4, if we mislynch then the remaining 3 are most likely scum and the game should be called as they cannot prevent a town win - the doc claims, the unknown pool shrinks to 4, we correctly lynch, 2 scum and 1 town left in the unknown, repeat tomorrow, and town wins - if its not a town win, then colby is 3rd party and needs to die
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Post by BillMc on Jul 22, 2013 11:05:48 GMT -5
Tho that said, Dizzy hasn't told us anything we didn't already know - so she could be pulling a big slice of pizza here...need to have a re-read before voting.
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Day Three
Jul 22, 2013 11:12:04 GMT -5
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Post by Jaade on Jul 22, 2013 11:12:04 GMT -5
So we have all three masons:
Bill Mahaloth (I hope I spelled that correctly!) Meeko
Dizzy claims Town watched Colby claims Town vig I am Town
That leaves
Patricia Plankton TexCat Cookies
I think I believe Plankton to be the remaining Town here. This is strictly a hunch, slightly based on meta and the (slight) difference in his posts this game vs the one we just finished on GB. I also find TexCat's posts very different in this game. Much less talking, much less analysis.
I would like to vote either of those over Patricia but must go with her for now to try to save myself.
I can claim if but really hate to do so. On the other hand, I'm hiding in a tiny pool as it is, with all of the masons claimed. If there are three scum, there is a pool of 2 for me to hide in. Therefore, I think it actually is necessary. I'm the Town Doctor. Night 1 I protected Gnarly, and was apparently seen by Dizzy. So I can confirm that she IS a watcher of some sort. Night 2 I protected myself, as I was completely unsure of anyone's affiliation after the Pizza mess.
(Yes, I voted for gnarly after protecting him on Night 1. That scummy pizza was a hell of a salesman.)
Vote: Patricia
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Post by Jaade on Jul 22, 2013 11:29:03 GMT -5
Sorry, I saw I made several typos but I was trying to get this information out there.
When I said I would rather vote for "one of those", I actually meant TexCat or Cookies, not Plankton. It's still entirely plausible that Plankton is scum, but I didn't get a scum vibe from him. I definitely have a scum vibe on TexCat, so she is the one I am most interested in voting for toDay. I'm settling for Patricia at the moment to save my own tail and Town from losing their doctor. I am hoping to stay awake long enough for us to have a consensus.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Jul 22, 2013 11:52:53 GMT -5
Vote texcat[/color]
She's been demonstrably vocal against confirmed townies. Doubting them, voting them, lynching them, shooting down their proposals. That I happen to share some of those ideas being shot down is not insignificant. Her posts are also full of spin, and while I appreciate that y'all cannot truly appreciate the spin when it has been applied to me, she has done it to others whose motivations have been confirmed as the Town's best interest.
And with Meeko being an all-but-confirmed mason, I think there was indeed some scummy PIS in the post where Texcat chastises me about arguing with Meeko != scum hunting. Precious few ways for anyone to know that if they aren't themselves a Mason.
Luckily, Meeko has a masonry to bail him out. Because he's been behaving quite similarly. They have both repeatedly said, "There's no townie reason to do/say what [Guiri][Pleo][Gnarly] did/said" only to be confronted with death flips that provided evidence to the contrary." Perhaps it is lack of imagination on Meeko's part. But that's a way to appeal to the fat middle when trying to build cases as scum, too.
Curious to know if Meeko is playing as himself or strategically making adjustments in consult with the other Masons.
That being said, Suburban backing Texcat up with a case against me (If you can call "Why isn't she voting for Texcat?" as a case) and then choosing to go after patricia, who is considerably lower on my list of suspects. She may be in my final four, but there are miles between Texcat and Suburban and anyone else at this point. Patricia could very well be a Townie in my blind spot.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Jul 22, 2013 11:54:29 GMT -5
Sorry, I saw I made several typos but I was trying to get this information out there. When I said I would rather vote for "one of those", I actually meant TexCat or Cookies, not Plankton. It's still entirely plausible that Plankton is scum, but I didn't get a scum vibe from him. I definitely have a scum vibe on TexCat, so she is the one I am most interested in voting for toDay. I'm settling for Patricia at the moment to save my own tail and Town from losing their doctor. I am hoping to stay awake long enough for us to have a consensus. Wait. Are you claiming doc?
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Post by Jaade on Jul 22, 2013 12:02:11 GMT -5
Yes, I am the Town Doc. I said so in a post before the one you quoted. PM below, posting from my phone so forgive the formatting, please.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Jul 22, 2013 12:04:09 GMT -5
Tho that said, Dizzy hasn't told us anything we didn't already know - so she could be pulling a big slice of pizza here...need to have a re-read before voting. She outed Colby's Night action, which was not common knowledge.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Jul 22, 2013 12:09:02 GMT -5
Well, no real reason not to do the mass claim anymore in that case. A Little Boy Blue come blow your horn, The sheep's in the meadow, the cow's in the corn.NAME: Little Boy Blue SIDE: Duke of York ROLE: Vote Booster WIN CONDITION: All threats to the Duke of York's side have been removed. BACKGROUND: You are great at blowing your own trumpet. You were the herald for the Duke of York and followed him to war. Everybody always notices when you do and everyone listens. So when you start trumpeting about someone, they become that little bit more important in people's eyes POWERS: 1. During the Night, you can select one person and the following Day their vote will be doubled. Send a PM naming the person you wish to celebrate. Unfortunately, all of my targets were also Nightkill targets. I boosted Guiri N1 and Pleo N2.
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Post by Jaade on Jul 22, 2013 12:09:29 GMT -5
Tho that said, Dizzy hasn't told us anything we didn't already know - so she could be pulling a big slice of pizza here...need to have a re-read before voting. She outed Colby's Night action, which was not common knowledge. She also saw me visit Gnarly Night 1 so I know she is indeed a watcher. While she could be a scum watcher, I believe her actions thus far with regard to her role to have been genuinely Town oriented, so I'm inclined to believe she is a Town power for now. I'd much rather vote TexCat than Patricia. Now that at least a few people are on who can make that happen, I think that is the best move and I'm voting for her whether I'm lynched or not. I hate voting to lynch someone I'm unsure of just to save myself. I'd rather vote for someone I very strongly believe to be scum. Unvote: Patricia Vote: TexCat
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Post by Colby11 on Jul 22, 2013 12:40:05 GMT -5
I agree with the assessment on Texcat. I am still suspicious of Patricia, so that is where my vote will go (again)
Unvote: Jaade
Vote: Patricia
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Post by Jaade on Jul 22, 2013 12:42:34 GMT -5
You agree with the assessment on TexCat (I presume by Cookies? or by me?) but then you vote for Patricia?
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Post by Colby11 on Jul 22, 2013 12:46:39 GMT -5
You agree with the assessment on TexCat (I presume by Cookies? or by me?) but then you vote for Patricia? I am suspicious of both of them equally
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Jul 22, 2013 12:48:33 GMT -5
So why exactly are people voting for texcat now?
The case against her seems just about as well put together as the case against Jaade, which seemed to be more or less "we've got to lynch somebody, so why not <insert name here>?"
I realize that I'm as guilty as anyone else of letting the Day come this far without much effort to find a consensus candidate, but it seems like people are jumping from one candidate to another with startling regularity in the past couple of hours...
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Post by texcat on Jul 22, 2013 12:49:37 GMT -5
I also find TexCat's posts very different in this game. Much less talking, much less analysis. And just what was I supposed to be analyzing? We had an entire frigging week to discuss and vote. Meeko, Mahaloth, and I were begging for people to vote. And now with the deadline looming suddenly people are here discussing. This is bad for town. Just bad for town.
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Post by patricia on Jul 22, 2013 12:49:48 GMT -5
So we are doing the mass claim - great I will post mine as well
I think the claimed mason are the scum in this game - that would be a great idea as they can cover for each other one at a time. Also, if the first one claimed gets counter by a real mason (which I don't guess there are in this game - then they lose only one of the team. So by all the rest like is happening they get exposed and town wins
Vote: Vote Meeko
and if you don't believe my claim and lynch me town is only losing a vanilla PM to follow
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Post by patricia on Jul 22, 2013 12:51:00 GMT -5
Participants: CatInASuit, patricia CatInASuit Administrator ******* Bad Kitty CatInASuit Avatar Posts: 695 [ Exalt | Smite ] Karma: 103 Jun 28 2013 at 5:31am Quote . Message Options . Doctor Foster went to Gloucester in a shower of rain NAME: Doctor Foster SIDE: Duke of York ROLE: Vanilla WIN CONDITION: All threats to the Duke of York's side have been removed. BACKGROUND: And since you got soaked, life hasn't been the same. You lost all your equipment in that puddle and having been feeling pretty useless since. But you're here and hopefully can help out finding the remains of the tyranny and restoring law and order to the land. POWERS: 1. None Read more: idlemafia.com/conversation/48851#ixzz2ZnX0HR7n
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Post by patricia on Jul 22, 2013 12:51:59 GMT -5
Sorry - got a little too much in my cut and paste - but the PM part is there as well
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Post by patricia on Jul 22, 2013 12:55:38 GMT -5
Oh hell I didn't unvote Unvote: plankton Vote: Vote Meeko
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Post by Jaade on Jul 22, 2013 12:55:44 GMT -5
So why exactly are people voting for texcat now? The case against her seems just about as well put together as the case against Jaade, which seemed to be more or less "we've got to lynch somebody, so why not <insert name here>?" I realize that I'm as guilty as anyone else of letting the Day come this far without much effort to find a consensus candidate, but it seems like people are jumping from one candidate to another with startling regularity in the past couple of hours... I just feel that of the "unknowns", her behavior is different than what I saw in HK2. I realize that is meta-gamey but it is what I have to go on at the moment. I have also looked at her vote records and find that she had a hand in the incorrect lynch both Days, unlike any other "unknown".
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Post by Jaade on Jul 22, 2013 12:58:38 GMT -5
I also find TexCat's posts very different in this game. Much less talking, much less analysis. And just what was I supposed to be analyzing? We had an entire frigging week to discuss and vote. Meeko, Mahaloth, and I were begging for people to vote. And now with the deadline looming suddenly people are here discussing. This is bad for town. Just bad for town. Votes, for one. I remember you being much more analytical in the other game, and Pizza cheering you on for it. Yes, voting at the deadline sucks, and I wholeheartedly accept my part in that, though I clearly stated at the end of Day 2 that I wouldn't be around much for the weekend.
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Post by texcat on Jul 22, 2013 12:58:40 GMT -5
Interesting theory, Patricia. I think I said something earlier about our presumed town masons not really helping town very much.
I like my vote on Cookies. I don't believe her claim. How convenient is it to pick the two people who were night killed? Why pick Guiri? He had soft-claimed some power, but was equally likely to be scum. Why not pick Gnarly on N1? He had claimed detective and was not counter-claimed at that point and was likely to be protected?
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Post by Jaade on Jul 22, 2013 13:02:02 GMT -5
So we are doing the mass claim - great I will post mine as well I think the claimed mason are the scum in this game - that would be a great idea as they can cover for each other one at a time. Also, if the first one claimed gets counter by a real mason (which I don't guess there are in this game - then they lose only one of the team. So by all the rest like is happening they get exposed and town wins Vote: Vote Meekoand if you don't believe my claim and lynch me town is only losing a vanilla PM to follow In a game of 16, you think we have 4 scum? Wouldn't it have made more sense for Pizza to claim mason and two of them save him on Day/Night 2? I like the theory, very brazen of scum (and briefly considered it myself) but I just doubt it. Very little scum motivation for all three of them to be outed with a chance that they can all still be taken out with 0 mislynches once the first is caught.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Jul 22, 2013 13:02:35 GMT -5
So why exactly are people voting for texcat now? The case against her seems just about as well put together as the case against Jaade, which seemed to be more or less "we've got to lynch somebody, so why not <insert name here>?" It is simple. You read anything that Texcat has said regarding Guiri, Pleo, or Gnarly and witness a scum player sabotaging three Townies. And before that she went after Dizzy. I'm her latest target and her case on me is that someone who agreed with Pleo who wasn't Pizza HAD to be scum, and as everyone else who agreed with him has been proven to be town or a claimed mason, I'm scum by way of agreeing with Pleo. Anything else she's said about me has been a smear/spin. Earlier today I was a lurker. If the bar for lurking was set by my participation, this game is already dead. But feel free to keep defending your scumbuddy.
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Post by patricia on Jul 22, 2013 13:06:27 GMT -5
Day 3 Vote Count:Suburban Plankton(1): patricia (#30) Cookies(1): texcat (#31), meeko (#35-#41)texcat (1): mahaloth (#39) meeko (1): dizzymrslizzy (#40) dizzymrslizzy (1): meeko (#41) jaade (1): colby (#52) patricia(0): colby (#21-#52)Colby(0): Jaade(#12-#13)Not Voted: Jaade, Cookies, Suburban Plankton, BillMc With these votes, as of post 52, Suburban Plankton will be lynched Day ends in approx 11 1/2 hours Here another point - why is a three man mason team voting like this? Day two they each voted for someone different as well
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Jul 22, 2013 13:07:23 GMT -5
Why not pick Gnarly on N1? That's rich. You're asking me why I didn't vote-charge the guy you got lynched Yesterday? I picked my Towniest reads, and hit Townies twice. But feel free to continue to convince people punish me for acting in a pro-town fashion and not participating in the deaths of Townies. It is the only way you're going to get any non-scum non-meeko votes.
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Post by texcat on Jul 22, 2013 13:09:37 GMT -5
So why exactly are people voting for texcat now? The case against her seems just about as well put together as the case against Jaade, which seemed to be more or less "we've got to lynch somebody, so why not <insert name here>?" It is simple. You read anything that Texcat has said regarding Guiri, Pleo, or Gnarly and witness a scum player sabotaging three Townies. And before that she went after Dizzy. I'm her latest target and her case on me is that someone who agreed with Pleo who wasn't Pizza HAD to be scum, and as everyone else who agreed with him has been proven to be town or a claimed mason, I'm scum by way of agreeing with Pleo. Anything else she's said about me has been a smear/spin. Earlier today I was a lurker. If the bar for lurking was set by my participation, this game is already dead. But feel free to keep defending your scumbuddy. Cookies? Are you crazy? These are just blatant lies. I don't believe Guiri lived long enough for me to even mention him. I never went after Dizzy. Yes, I did not like you and Pleo not taking a stand on Gnarly/Pizza. I took a stand, and was wrong, and I'd probably do it again. Yes, a lot of people seemed to be lurking waiting for the deadline. It's what makes Patricia's theory seem so plausible to me. I voted early and made my case early. Not waiting to jump on a bandwagon of lies.
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