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Post by Meeko on May 29, 2014 10:46:21 GMT -5
One final attempt at this, and to give spoiled unlookers a chuckle::
I thought my power was closer to being FOX NEWS.
it's closer to being Who's Line Is It Anway?
If these two are closer to each other than not, well we have half of the Dope to go talk about it.
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Post by Silver Jan on May 29, 2014 10:53:49 GMT -5
I am back and my move was successful, as in I have a roof over my head and the internet.
I feel as if I have been gone for ages, would this deal/no deal really help us? Maybe I just don't understand it properly.
Meeko have a tantrum like that threw me somewhat, he has been sort of cleared as Town, not hundred percent cos he's not dead yet, he hasn't got a usable power, so what??? I don't get it! Vanilla players are just as important as power roles.
Meeko you can still contribute by finding scum, you don't have to be a superhero to do that.
I see that day only ends tomorrow so I have plenty of time to do a proper read but Peeker also confused me by saying that Archangel was one of the few contributing to the scum hunt, how exactly has she done that?
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Post by Silver Jan on May 29, 2014 11:26:30 GMT -5
can't resist "testable Towniness" testicles. I didn't realize that may role which was testable could also be a scum role so I guess I overstate when I said I could prove my townieness, I have however, proven my role. You have proved your role but that in no way means you are Town. Scum are not above giving their real role if it's often a Townie role as well. As far as I can tell you haven't actually proved anything except that you couldn't be lynched yesterDay.
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Post by LightFoot on May 29, 2014 11:47:26 GMT -5
meeko are you alluding to some sort of posting restriction? Based on the participation of others?
Jan glad your move was successful now get your butt in the game
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Post by Silver Jan on May 29, 2014 11:56:16 GMT -5
meeko are you alluding to some sort of posting restriction? Based on the participation of others? Jan glad your move was successful now get your butt in the game Butt firmly back in game. I am not sure I want random dot org to decide who should be lynched, that might be ok for a D1 lynch but surely we have more info now.
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Post by peekercpa on May 29, 2014 12:32:12 GMT -5
dizzy keep in mind that we may not even have a cop or a doc if you had been given the first aid gem would you have asked the Mod about it in public ? i've always wanted to use this in a game thread but never had the correct opportunity. criminy, did you get together with your mates and decided to lob me this softball? if so, thank you kindly. [tom hanks]are you being deliberately obtuse?[/tom hanks]
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Post by Mahaloth on May 29, 2014 15:17:37 GMT -5
Meeko, why don't you just full claim? And what is wrong with being vanilla or having a weak power?
It's hard to make a game. Even if Colby messed up, it hardly deserves a flame out. Just play, hope for the best, and see what happens.
Anyway, the full claim is obviously not happening. This game is so inactive it is becoming distracting. I'm leaving my pathetic vote on Mary just because.
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Post by Meeko on May 29, 2014 15:21:02 GMT -5
Meeko, why don't you just full claim? And what is wrong with being vanilla or having a weak power? It's hard to make a game. Even if Colby messed up, it hardly deserves a flame out. Just play, hope for the best, and see what happens. Anyway, the full claim is obviously not happening. This game is so inactive it is becoming distracting. I'm leaving my pathetic vote on Mary just because. I'm not clear on what or why I need to claim. I begin to suspect Maha here, and continue suspecting Peeker.
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Post by peekercpa on May 29, 2014 15:48:58 GMT -5
i suggest you dumbasses get off your asses and lynch a confirmed town investigator or a confirmed town doc that can self protect. counter claims - none. counter confirms - sure. any reason do something so stupid from a scum stand point - none. yeh it makes sense. short bussers arise. we have found the idiot move of the century. let's go. if it really comes down to that i quit because obviously the game is broken. all town have blurred into a distant memory. the ones that still exist are merely shells of themselves and the scum circle slowly in for the kill. i for one am ready to toss the towel. maha? and the reason i offer is that with so many town awol it's just a slow death process. if cheese wants it to play out as some form of weird retribution then meh. i mean i know scum are struggling with the same issue are on their side but not to the extent that town is. hence the reluctance on the deal [color=brownno deal[/b] suggestion. they don't want to have to kill one of their own. obviously bravo is one. mary most likely. lightfootfor sure. i'll toss down the fourth one if we keep playing but i sincerely don't mind showing my ass. at least it's participation. i've got three in my sights buy i don't just fling mud.
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Post by Meeko on May 29, 2014 15:55:43 GMT -5
i suggest you dumbasses get off your asses and lynch a confirmed town investigator or a confirmed town doc that can self protect. counter claims - none. counter confirms - sure. any reason do something so stupid from a scum stand point - none. yeh it makes sense. short bussers arise. we have found the idiot move of the century. let's go. if it really comes down to that i quit because obviously the game is broken. all town have blurred into a distant memory. the ones that still exist are merely shells of themselves and the scum circle slowly in for the kill. i for one am ready to toss the towel. maha? and the reason i offer is that with so many town awol it's just a slow death process. if cheese wants it to play out as some form of weird retribution then meh. i mean i know scum are struggling with the same issue are on their side but not to the extent that town is. hence the reluctance on the deal [color=brownno deal [/b] suggestion. they don't want to have to kill one of their own. obviously bravo is one. mary most likely. lightfootfor sure. i'll toss down the fourth one if we keep playing but i sincerely don't mind showing my ass. at least it's participation. i've got three in my sights buy i don't just fling mud.
[/quote] Monkgate much?
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Post by peekercpa on May 29, 2014 16:29:07 GMT -5
monk of scums?
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Post by peekercpa on May 29, 2014 16:31:36 GMT -5
i would have no problem stringing into that pile just to see. all this other hemming and hawing has not produced a ton of much.
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Post by LightFoot on May 29, 2014 16:47:36 GMT -5
official vote count if you would be so kind
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Post by LightFoot on May 29, 2014 17:20:22 GMT -5
1. Peeker-claims town doc- investigated by Maha-Town 2. Mahaloth-claims town cop-investigated Peeker & Meeko – 3. Dizzymrslizzy-claims town gemologist 4. Paulwhoisaghost –LightFoot V2- claims town vote director 5. Silver Jan 6. Chameleon 7. xArchangelx 8. Meeko-claims town power?investigated by Maha-Town
9. Crys Town watcher 10. Patricia claims town Scotsman- Scotsman role Mod confirmed
11. Lightfoot Town Vig 12. johnnybravo
13. Storyteller Town body guard 14. Mary
posting this for myself and anyone else that wants to read it I have to run out- I will be back
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Post by Colby11 on May 29, 2014 20:12:54 GMT -5
Official Gem/Vote Count
Gem count
Black Gems - Mahaloth, Lightfoot, Meeko, Peeker
Green Gems - Patricia, Lightfoot
Vote count
Mary- Mahaloth, Patricia
Patricia- Lightfoot, Meeko
Patricia is the first to two votes, so she would be lynched.
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Post by Meeko on May 29, 2014 20:57:17 GMT -5
So now that I have a few minutes to actually sit down and flesh this out my long answer of how I know Gems can protect people from Night Kills, I can confirm what I've been hinting about. I'm the Town Gemologist, I possess the Book of Gems, and am able to ask about one gem per Day/Night Cycle. Day 1 the Black Gem protected the third player that picked it up from all Night Kills Night 2 the White Gem protected the first player that picked it up from a Night Kill. I do not know: What the Green Gem did Day 1 What the White Gem did Night 1 What the Gems Day 2 did I also am not allowed to directly say what the gems do while they are in play, otherwise their powers will not work. But so far, every gem I've researched has had "good powers" and we know that Gems have both Good and Bad powers, so I'm sure there has to be some bad powers coming up." As well, I would suspect that other players that have won gems aren't allowed to discuss their gem winnings and what they do. The PM I received when I won the one that I got said I couldn't discuss it in game or it will invalidate it. I guess at this point I can, but I didn't clarify that with the Mod. Well this is ............ NEEDLESSLY COMPLICATED. Unvote: PatI have to think about a few things here.
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Post by Meeko on May 29, 2014 21:06:35 GMT -5
Vote: Dizzy
I will counter her claim.
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May 7 2014 at 5:33pm Quote Being from a secret society of Gem Scientists, you know a bit about these gems, and can use your studies to learn what gems do. You possess the Book Gem, and you may use its power once every Day/Night cycle to find out the special abilities of the gems in play during that Day or Night. Please PM me when you want to make a choice.
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i find it interesting that dizzy has a book of gems. Other gems have been two word constructs. "Sword Gem."
Also, I have been cleared by Mahaloth.
Further, if this goes south for me, well, remember I gave this game up as a lost cause earlier today.
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Post by Meeko on May 29, 2014 21:10:30 GMT -5
NETA: the entire color of the game has been that the GEMS themselves did something.
The vig had a sword GEM.
Peeker has a first aid kit GEM.
I have a book GEM.
There is in evidence a shield GEM
But, Dizzy has BOOK of gems.
As they used to sing on Sesame Street, one of these things is not like the other. Can you tell me which thing is not like the other by the time we finish our lynch?
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Post by Chameleon on May 29, 2014 21:19:32 GMT -5
I'm glad you still seem to be playing Meeko. No one should sell themselves short thinking they have nothing to contribute without a useful power.
I also want to say that modding a game can't possibly be easy and I appreciate every person willing to use their own free time to make up a game whether it's perfect or not.
As for Dizzy's claim, do you feel it's complicated, or actually unlikely Meeko? Or are they the same thing? Considering the theme of the game and the fact that the gems are a complete mystery to everyone until they get one that activates, I don't find her claim all that outrageous. I'm still not sure what the point is if she's not allowed to reveal her information until after the fact. But how different is that from having a power you don't reveal in order to protect yourself? Dizzy, can you clarify this a bit. Can you find out what a gem does immediately at the start of Day or Night? Did you pick up the gem that protected you with the knowledge that it would? I'm just trying to understand how this is a beneficial ability.
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on May 29, 2014 21:21:02 GMT -5
Let's see I posted two verifiable pieces of my investigation.
I won the black Gem on D1 for being the 3rd person to pick it up.
Hey Mahaloth, did you win the Gem last night on N2 since you were the first person to pick up the gem?
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Post by Chameleon on May 29, 2014 21:25:25 GMT -5
Ok, I was typing when you countered Meeko. I guess I can understand why you felt the power wasn't all that useful, but I still think it seems to have the potential of giving you some advantage, at least for yourself. I will have to think about these claims - Meeko was cleared by Maha.
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Post by Meeko on May 29, 2014 21:30:34 GMT -5
So now that I have a few minutes to actually sit down and flesh this out my long answer of how I know Gems can protect people from Night Kills, I can confirm what I've been hinting about. I'm the Town Gemologist, I possess the Book of Gems, and am able to ask about one gem per Day/Night Cycle. Day 1 the Black Gem protected the third player that picked it up from all Night Kills Night 2 the White Gem protected the first player that picked it up from a Night Kill. I do not know: What the Green Gem did Day 1 What the White Gem did Night 1 What the Gems Day 2 did I also am not allowed to directly say what the gems do while they are in play, otherwise their powers will not work. But so far, every gem I've researched has had "good powers" and we know that Gems have both Good and Bad powers, so I'm sure there has to be some bad powers coming up." As well, I would suspect that other players that have won gems aren't allowed to discuss their gem winnings and what they do. The PM I received when I won the one that I got said I couldn't discuss it in game or it will invalidate it. I guess at this point I can, but I didn't clarify that with the Mod. LETS DANCE. So now that I have a few minutes to actually sit down and flesh this out my long answer of how I know Gems can protect people from Night Kills, I can confirm what I've been hinting about. ""So now that I have a few minutes to actually sit down and flesh this out my long answer..."" Reads to me as "" Now that I have collaborated with my scum mates on how we are going to make a fame role claim, I will flesh out my long answer. Because I just had to flesh out my answer on the scum board, I want to go ahead and do this now, while I can remember the lie."" I've already shot down the entire "Book of gems" thing. You straight up have something on use of the word Gemologist. .... We will read Gemologist for weeks to come on the spoiled board. My power as well is limited to once per cycle. I have been using my power during the day. For what it's worth, I too was after being the third person to get a black gem. I believe I met the requirement for Day 2 and for Day 3 - today. .... However the trigger and the effect of the gems changes from day to day. This is why I was so passed earlier. I have no way to prove what I am from day to day. If I can't prove my power, then I have no power. If I have no power, then I am vanilla. Or did Dizzy and team fail to flesh out this rush job of a claim that far? And didn't we have some statement. About there not being post restrictions? ... Haven't we decided that they are bad things. And don't happen all that often, in light of ""shoes""? This faked role claim has been brought to you by POST RESTRICTIONS ..... When you can't shoehorn your faked claim to work just right, we have what you need. POST RESTRICTIONS. For the record. I have no post restrictions of any kind. I've given you my full role above. And I have no better way to say this. So bear with me:: WINNINGS REALLY?!
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on May 29, 2014 21:32:28 GMT -5
And obviously I paraphrased my Role in my post.... Book Gem didn't make as much sense as Book of Gems did, but yeah my PM eerily reads EXACTLY word for word with yours with the added that I am not allowed to speak of the gems powers while they are in play. Being from a secret society of Gem Scientists, you know a bit about these gems, and can use your studies to learn what gems do. You possess the Book Gem, and you may use its power once per each Day/Night cycle to find out the special abilities of the gems in play during that Day or Night. You may not mention the gem's powers while the gems are in play. Please PM me when you want to make a choice. So my thought is that there are two of us, and together we are more powerful because we can find out something each per day/night cycle, and there's that "balance" that you were screaming about earlier..... I gave specific examples of my power being used. Here's from Dusk of D1 after winning the Black Gem: Because you selected your gem at the proper moment, you are safe from all night kills. If you mention this in the game, your protection goes away. This protection only lasts for Night 1. And just one more question. I completely understood my role from the beginning, what exactly were you confused about?
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Post by Chameleon on May 29, 2014 21:41:45 GMT -5
Meeko, if you had no posting restrictions why didn't you mention you had info about the gems? I would think that could be helpful.
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Post by Meeko on May 29, 2014 21:49:28 GMT -5
Meeko, if you had no posting restrictions why didn't you mention you had info about the gems? I would think that could be helpful. When should I have claimed? In the middle of the rest of town claiming? I have info on gems yes, but the issue that pissed me off, is that Colby has informed me that the powers of the gems change. The trigger to the gem powers also change. This happens on a daily basis. For example, I believed that simply being the third person to pick up a black gem was sufficient to obtain protection from a night kill. I was the third person to pick one up on Day 2. When I became the third person to pick up the gem today, I asked just to verify. Remember that players were throwing gems. I asked if the players throwing gems meant that they kept them. I further asked if that meant that I had protection tonight. That's when Cokby informed me that the powers and triggers change. And he still insists that this is a balanced power for town.
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Post by Meeko on May 29, 2014 21:51:14 GMT -5
Relevant PMsPlayers are throwing gems. As I understand the spirit, and the letter of my evaluations, I was - am - the third to ... Acquire the gem. Hence the effect of the black gem triggers for me? I don't get what town is doing. It's white knuckle time for me to get through this, but town is not helpped by me claiming anything at present, or ever, given the gamestate . Not entirely. The trigger and effects are different each time
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on May 29, 2014 21:54:48 GMT -5
See I asked that in the beginning when I started seeing that maybe gems recycled.... Meaning I assumed that I would only get the information on one gem at a time.... So I guess I have more questions? Do I get the abilities of all gems in play? Does a Gem come into play either at Dusk/Dawn, and stay in play through that cycle. Like the Black/Green gems came into play at Dawn, can you still grab a Black/Green tonight, or are they no longer available. Does a Gem always have the same abilities....like If a Black gem appears on Day 3, does it do the still protect the third person that grabs it from a night kill? No longer available. See new post Different abilities each day. I will say that tomorrow. You do not get the knowledge of all gems in play, just one of them per each day/night cycle
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Post by Meeko on May 29, 2014 22:02:16 GMT -5
One final attempt at this, and to give spoiled unlookers a chuckle:: I thought my power was closer to being FOX NEWS. it's closer to being Who's Line Is It Anway? If these two are closer to each other than not, well we have half of the Dope to go talk about it. Given that I've claimed, I will go back to this little nugget and expand for the players at home. :: I thought my power was closer to being FOX NEWS. I believe their current tag is "We report, You Decide." Meaning, I thought Colby was going to report the gems to me, and I would decide what I wanted to do with them LATER (that is, that they were permanent powers and triggers) In retrospect, their now abandoned "Fair and Balanced" also works, as I thought my power, as I understood it (hey, isn't that one of the steps?! I digress) was fair and balanced. But as Fox is (hell, they never were) no longer fair and balanced, they got rid of that line. I feel Colby did the same with my role. As for Who's Line...... Welcome to Cave of Gems Mafia, where the triggers are made up, and the protections granted don't matter.
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on May 29, 2014 22:02:55 GMT -5
Meeko, if you had no posting restrictions why didn't you mention you had info about the gems? I would think that could be helpful. When should I have claimed? In the middle of the rest of town claiming? IDK Meeko, maybe in the same context as my claim. Remember my claim was not forced in the least bit. Peekers was going on and on about how the Deal/No Deal would be able to help us find scum. You knew right then and there, that certain Gems/Player combinations would make a Night Kill fail. You ignored it when I hinted about it, when you could have just as easily said, "Hey yeah I have info that some gems will give protection from night kills." I'm not making up my role, I think I've sufficiently given proof that can be tested as to what I claim to be. Heck you verified yourself my claim that the 3rd person to pick up the Black Gem on D1 was safe from a Night kill.
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on May 29, 2014 22:05:12 GMT -5
I disagree, I think that the role is fair and balanced. My only complaint is that I'm not on at the beginning of the day and it's a First person to grab XYZ gem then that's a little unfair that I have no chance to pick it up, or warn players in a cryptic not talking about gems kind of way.
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