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Day Two
Jun 6, 2008 13:00:16 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Jun 6, 2008 13:00:16 GMT -5
Can we get an official type vote count? I would like to see the spread of votes.
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Day Two
Jun 6, 2008 13:03:04 GMT -5
Post by Rysto on Jun 6, 2008 13:03:04 GMT -5
Except at the time you voted for me, I had made no claims of any sort. I can confirm that there are definately non-human, non-demon, non-possessed roles in this game. I would prefer not to say more because of my own role, but this information may be useful to others. You claim to have have information. You claim that information is linked to your role. You clearly are claiming not to be a vanilla survivor. Maybe this is just a difference in terminology, but to me anybody who is not vanilla(and isn't scum) is a power role.
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Day Two
Jun 6, 2008 13:08:15 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Jun 6, 2008 13:08:15 GMT -5
Fuck...I don't really like the case against TD or cowman but they are our frontrunners behind stardragonman and we have seven fucking nonvoters (I guess only 6 since sdm can't vote).
Is there any real case against SDM at all? If not I need to think hard and fast about what I want to do.
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Day Two
Jun 6, 2008 13:22:14 GMT -5
Post by RoOsh on Jun 6, 2008 13:22:14 GMT -5
Does anyone think Star is the scummiest player? I don't think he's the scummiest player, but that's because he's Given us NOTHING but the Vote from day 1, which he's pointed out was an OMGUS. I DO think he is the most Anti-TOWN player right now, and I wouldn't mind seeing him hang for it, because I think what we've got is at good as it gets from him.
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Day Two
Jun 6, 2008 13:22:43 GMT -5
Post by Pollux Oil on Jun 6, 2008 13:22:43 GMT -5
Did someone call for a VOTE COUNT? Vote CountStardragonman (5): Penalty Votes TDpatriots (4): FlyingCowofDoom, Nanook, hawkeyeop, storyteller FlyingCowofDoom (3): misterblockey, Rebel, Darth Sensitive hockeymonkey (2): bufftabby, Kison Ryjae (1): Survivor Smurf Blaster Master (1): hockeymonkey hawkeyeop (1): NAF1138 Nanook (1): Rysto Survivor Smurf (1): Tdpatriots Rysto (1): Roosh Not Voting: 6 Unable to Vote: 1 (stardragonman)
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Day Two
Jun 6, 2008 13:24:07 GMT -5
Post by RoOsh on Jun 6, 2008 13:24:07 GMT -5
You claim to have have information. You claim that information is linked to your role. You clearly are claiming not to be a vanilla survivor. Maybe this is just a difference in terminology, but to me anybody who is not vanilla(and isn't scum) is a power role. So why vote for a power role then? He wasn't in any danger of being lynched or anything, he doesn't need the pressure.
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Day Two
Jun 6, 2008 13:30:15 GMT -5
Post by Hawkmod on Jun 6, 2008 13:30:15 GMT -5
I DO think he is the most Anti-TOWN player right now, and I wouldn't mind seeing him hang for it, because I think what we've got is at good as it gets from him. I disagree in that he is most anti-town player. I'll say he is the least helpful town player (assuming he is town, which I believe he is). It is kind of like Faithfool in YSI. Yeah he isn't helpful, but he counts towards our number, and that could be key in the end. I'd rather take out someone who is actively opposed to the town.
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Day Two
Jun 6, 2008 13:31:44 GMT -5
Post by Rysto on Jun 6, 2008 13:31:44 GMT -5
So why vote for a power role then? He wasn't in any danger of being lynched or anything, he doesn't need the pressure. His vote leads me to believe that his claim is fabricated, that's why. I don't believe that he's a power role.
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Day Two
Jun 6, 2008 13:33:35 GMT -5
Post by Hawkmod on Jun 6, 2008 13:33:35 GMT -5
I also have to agree here. I don't like how ryjae claims to have all of these powers, but I am too scared that he's being truthful to be ok with lynching him. While I agree that we shouldn't lynch Ryjae, I object to this reasoning. We can't play scared. No individual town power role is going to to lose the game for us if lost. By not lynching anyone who claims to be able to do something powerful, we are giving the scum an easy cover.
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Day Two
Jun 6, 2008 13:40:44 GMT -5
Post by RoOsh on Jun 6, 2008 13:40:44 GMT -5
Yeah he isn't helpful, but he counts towards our number, and that could be key in the end. I'd rather take out someone who is actively opposed to the town. That's assuming he's Town. That's the problem. If he contributes the way he's been doing, it's going to be a WIFOM that we're going to have to eventually deal with later rather than sooner, and that's not something I'm looking forwards to. In my book, that's not helpful to us, ergo, it's anti-town.
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Day Two
Jun 6, 2008 13:43:41 GMT -5
Post by Mister Blockey on Jun 6, 2008 13:43:41 GMT -5
Wow I have no time: I have to leave for work in a few minutes, and won't be back till after the day ends. Keeping that in mind please excuse my brevity, I'll be happy to more fully explain ToMorrow.
Unvote FCOD
Vote TDPatriots
To make a long story short:
Still suspicious of FCOD
I don't think Stardragonman is the best lynch choice
I don't thing TDPats is the best lynch choice either, but he's better than Stardgmn
Particular point, late hockeyguy vote, similar to why I'm suspicious of FCOD, but less so.
TD seems like the only one to vote for to get the vote of Stardgmn, and Stardgmn, while needing a wakeup call, is putting off more of a townie vibe than TD.
No more time, g2g, sorry.
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Day Two
Jun 6, 2008 13:53:08 GMT -5
Post by Merestil Haye on Jun 6, 2008 13:53:08 GMT -5
I'd like to apologise for being silent the last four hours or so. I was busy bitching to Life's customer service department. (Or, in the words of the fabulous "GM Hold Music, Vol 1 :
"When life hands you lemonade, kick it in the groin and say 'I wanted a beer ... bitch.'"
I was just trying to get my beer.)
AKA, I failed the aptitude testing yesterday.
/oog grumps.
My worry at the moment is the fact that Stardragonman could easily be voted out by the penalty votes. So I am (like Storyteller) going to look at the vote leaders to see which I think is the most scummy. Including SDM. I may be preapared to see him hang if I think he might be scummy.
If I am convinced that all three leaders are not scummy, then I'll brace myself for the impossible task.
[more hold music.
"Where are the stats for were-hedgehogs?"
One of the deeper questions of gaming.]
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Day Two
Jun 6, 2008 13:55:21 GMT -5
Post by Hockey Monkey! on Jun 6, 2008 13:55:21 GMT -5
My vote for Blam has done nothing, so
unvote blam.
I don't feel that SDM is the best lynch for today. Blocky is right, his townie vibe is strong. Between Pats and Ryjae, I'm more suspicious of Ryjae, but I don't think his lynch is the best one today either. Although his claims seem a little outlandish, if he's town he's too important to lose. So that leaves Pats as the only other person in contention. Is that a good reason? Not really, but it's better at this point than a one off. A one off vote is useless, so...
vote TDPatriots
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Day Two
Jun 6, 2008 14:00:45 GMT -5
Post by tdpatriots12 on Jun 6, 2008 14:00:45 GMT -5
First up, misterblockey. I appreciate your prompt and thorough reply. One of your answers still leaves me with questions:
I've been paying particularly close attention (obviously) to the case against me, how it developed, who was developing it, who had good reasons/bad reasons, etc. So I was curious as to why you never went on the record regarding my scummyness when it was one of the primary topics of the day. It struck me as odd. Not particularly scummy... but I was voting for you for basically a ton of really minor things that ran the gamut from "odd" to "kinda scummy."
Anyway, unvote misterblockey
Next up is my opinion on RoOsh. His explanation strikes me as consistent, but in a way that would pretty much justify any play from RoOsh, which is of course is damn convenient.
Now what to do with my vote. I don't like hockeymonkey's vote on me, but not enough to return the favor. I don't have a read one way or the other on any of the other votes on me. As far as scummiest player out there, I got nothing. So what to do? There's the self defense vote, that I could place on SDM, but I'm worried that he's town.
If he's town and gets lynched, what the hell does the town learn? Nothing. I mean, it's possible he's scum, and that would be great, but I don't think he is. If I get lynched, at least it means a huge chunk of Day Two conversation is open for analysis.
Just so we're clear, I won't be voting unless someone does something particularly scummy over the course of the day.
Feel free to ask me anything, I'll be around.
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Day Two
Jun 6, 2008 14:00:52 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Jun 6, 2008 14:00:52 GMT -5
pats, if there is a role claim in your future, sooner is probably better than later.
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Day Two
Jun 6, 2008 14:02:30 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Jun 6, 2008 14:02:30 GMT -5
pats, if there is a role claim in your future, sooner is probably better than later. Sooner may be too late. Now is the time if you have one.
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Day Two
Jun 6, 2008 14:05:18 GMT -5
Post by tdpatriots12 on Jun 6, 2008 14:05:18 GMT -5
There isn't, in fact my WIFOMy statement in reply to you earlier Today should work just fine for that purpose. If you believe me, then it's right there. If you don't, then, well - you weren't going to anyway. Link for reference.
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Day Two
Jun 6, 2008 14:06:09 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Jun 6, 2008 14:06:09 GMT -5
'specially as far as I'm concerned; I'm leaving work at 4:30 and have my second weekend of shows starting tonight, so you won't hear from me again until Sunday morning when all the shouting is over.
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Day Two
Jun 6, 2008 14:07:47 GMT -5
Post by tdpatriots12 on Jun 6, 2008 14:07:47 GMT -5
Ah, what the hell, if I'm gonna get lynched (AND be around here all day to watch it happen), I might as well have a little fun. Here's my claim for anyone who doesn't get the message:
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Day Two
Jun 6, 2008 14:08:10 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Jun 6, 2008 14:08:10 GMT -5
Interesting.
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Day Two
Jun 6, 2008 14:09:12 GMT -5
Post by RoOsh on Jun 6, 2008 14:09:12 GMT -5
TD seems like the only one to vote for to get the vote of Stardgmn, and Stardgmn, while needing a wakeup call, is putting off more of a townie vibe than TD. What??? SDM has done nothing really except point out that his Day 1 vote was an OMGUS, and that he basically thinks people who analyze votes are the scummy ones! That's it! How is that "more townie" than Td at least trying to defend himself and explain his actions? Lurking is more townie than posting? That's bullshit to me! I don't feel that SDM is the best lynch for today. Blocky is right, his townie vibe is strong. Between Pats and Ryjae, I'm more suspicious of Ryjae, but I don't think his lynch is the best one today either. Although his claims seem a little outlandish, if he's town he's too important to lose. So that leaves Pats as the only other person in contention. Is that a good reason? Not really, but it's better at this point than a one off. A one off vote is useless, so... vote TDPatriotsI also dislike this vote a LOT, however, I do agree with one part- a one off vote is useless. So I'm gonna put my money where my mouth's been all day: Unvote Rysto Vote StarDragonMan. As I think he's the LEAST helpful player out here, and I'm still not comfortable with the TD Lynch. I'd rather see SDM hang than an active defensive player, who's tried to put some valid ideas and thoughts out there, while SDM's done jack and shit, and will continue to do such as long as we leave him alone. I really can't stand for that. His vote vs. Hockey Guy was also the WEAKEST vote- it had NO reasoning, and it was posted early enough that HG was in no danger of being lynched. It's just that SDM didn't really check in all that much or bother to do any other analysis- he just popped in later to say "Hey, I agree with the others [ kat] analysis, and so i'll leave my vote there", but then toDay has pointed out that his vote actually was nothing more than an OMGUS. That to me is NOT Helpful or Townie in ANY way shape or form. I also have a few metagame reasons for voting him, but I'll keep those out of this thread as well. But his play REALLY frustrates me, and I KNOW he's not going to improve on it.
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Day Two
Jun 6, 2008 14:10:24 GMT -5
Post by Merestil Haye on Jun 6, 2008 14:10:24 GMT -5
TDPats. Anyway, unvote misterblockeyWhen did you place this vote? On D2.230 you voted for Survivor Smurf. According to the latest votecount (D2.274) that's still your vote. I couldn't find a vote change after 230. My scumdar, poor as it is, has just given me a warning "ping."
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Day Two
Jun 6, 2008 14:10:56 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Jun 6, 2008 14:10:56 GMT -5
<wants to vote for Roosh so badly at this point that it's becoming a physical compulsion>
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Day Two
Jun 6, 2008 14:13:30 GMT -5
Post by tdpatriots12 on Jun 6, 2008 14:13:30 GMT -5
Just a fuck up, M Haye. I clearly responded to something from Survivor Smurf's post.
Apologies, unvote SurvivorSmurf.
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Day Two
Jun 6, 2008 14:15:22 GMT -5
Post by RoOsh on Jun 6, 2008 14:15:22 GMT -5
<wants to vote for Roosh so badly at this point that it's becoming a physical compulsion> Oh great... just fucking great. I better clear up my schedule then for toMorrow. Storyteller vs. Roosh, eh? /oog = It actually DOES put like a little black cloud, knowing that this is coming up. The Bulldog has me in his sights next.... Scary. But kinda exciting. But scary. /oog
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Day Two
Jun 6, 2008 14:15:46 GMT -5
Post by Hawkmod on Jun 6, 2008 14:15:46 GMT -5
What??? SDM has done nothing really except point out that his Day 1 vote was an OMGUS, and that he basically thinks people who analyze votes are the scummy ones! That's it! How is that "more townie" than Td at least trying to defend himself and explain his actions? Lurking is more townie than posting? That's bullshit to me! TD, if he is scum, is lying. Lying is more anti-town than not participating (Not counting lies with a pro-town purpose). Star is probably less fun to keep alive, but I think he is also much less likely to be scum.
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Day Two
Jun 6, 2008 14:17:30 GMT -5
Post by RoOsh on Jun 6, 2008 14:17:30 GMT -5
<wants to vote for Roosh so badly at this point that it's becoming a physical compulsion> Also, when I read this I thought of Ice-T's quote from New Jack City: I wanna shoot you so bad, my dick's hard!
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Day Two
Jun 6, 2008 14:19:28 GMT -5
Post by RoOsh on Jun 6, 2008 14:19:28 GMT -5
TD, if he is scum, is lying. Lying is more anti-town than not participating (Not counting lies with a pro-town purpose). Star is probably less fun to keep alive, but I think he is also much less likely to be scum. Valid point. I guess I just don't think td's lying then, I feel he's more townie than SDM would be. :sigh:
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Day Two
Jun 6, 2008 14:19:59 GMT -5
Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 6, 2008 14:19:59 GMT -5
Just thought I'd post this little snippet from The Rules:
That means that the lynch will be tdpatriots if all the votes remain as they are right now:
TDpatriots (6): FlyingCowofDoom, Nanook, hawkeyeop, storyteller, misterblockey, hockeymonkey Stardragonman (6): Penalty Votes, Roosh FlyingCowofDoom (2): Rebel, Darth Sensitive hockeymonkey (2): bufftabby, Kison Ryjae (1): Survivor Smurf hawkeyeop (1): NAF1138 Nanook (1): Rysto
--FCOD
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Day Two
Jun 6, 2008 14:20:35 GMT -5
Post by RoOsh on Jun 6, 2008 14:20:35 GMT -5
Anyways, I've done all I can for now. I've got to head out and actually do some work. I'll try to be back though by after Dinnertime, and we'll see where this goes.
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