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Post by Idle Thoughts on Dec 19, 2008 16:11:08 GMT -5
Idle - what would happen if someone in the other group put a vote on someone in our group?Nothing. I've already made it clear that you guys and they can only vote for people in the same group.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Dec 19, 2008 16:12:13 GMT -5
I'm probably clutching at straws here but the new win condition pm states not to talk about it till Day Three has started. As it was already Night Three when it was sent do you think it's significant or just a typo? This has already been brought up in the other group. It's just a typo.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Dec 19, 2008 16:14:12 GMT -5
Total Lost - 1 vote (zeriel)
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Post by Santo Rugger on Dec 19, 2008 18:32:09 GMT -5
Vote Total Lost
I won't be around much this weekend.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Dec 19, 2008 19:55:11 GMT -5
Total Lost - 2 votes (zeriel, santo rugger)
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Post by Mister Blockey on Dec 20, 2008 0:11:03 GMT -5
This is going to be the obscenely long day correct.
I think I'll hold off voting for the moment.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Dec 20, 2008 3:09:13 GMT -5
Yep.
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Post by Total Ullz on Dec 20, 2008 6:58:25 GMT -5
Does this mean you think we should continue to hunt scum regardless of the present WC? The win condition has been constantly changing. 2 out of 4 conditions so far have involved killing scum, and 2 out of 4 have involved killing pfks. 1 out of 4 has involved killing town. If scum could fix us on that latter condition, they would have done so by now. The win condition is at this point almost certainly either random/cyclical all the time or random/cyclical, but fixed at miteymouse's death, just by simple odds. Oh, and thanks for giving me something more to go on besides Almost Human's little bit of phrasing last Night. unvote Almost Human vote Total Lost, for stopping to think even for a second that seriously pursuing a strategy of "kill all town" was a good idea. So you think the best way to win a game is to never stop and think? I asked you because AH has made a very convincing claim as vanilla Town with a thing on her back. I havn't seen anything making me think her claim isn't likely to be true. (And no! it not the same as I trust her!). I just thought it a bit strange to see a vote on her so soon on a long Day - when she is one of the most Townie to me.
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Post by Total Ullz on Dec 20, 2008 8:06:56 GMT -5
Idle - what would happen if someone in the other group put a vote on someone in our group?Nothing. I've already made it clear that you guys and they can only vote for people in the same group. No you didn't You said: (bolding is mine) There are now two different groups playing the game, Group A (which is this group) and Group B (the group stuck in the Minus World). The two groups were split using Random.org. It will be like this until Night Four. You will not know what Group B is doing, what they are talking about, who they are voting for, or anything else going on in that group's game. Consequently neither will they know anything about what's going on in this group. On Night Four, however, both the forums will be unlocked, everyone will be able to catch up on the previous Day's posts and events...and everyone will see who has been lynched. Since there are two, separate groups that means there will be two lynches. You will be made aware who the other group has lynched come Night Four. You guys, however, can only vote for people who are in this group.
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Post by Almost Human on Dec 20, 2008 9:35:06 GMT -5
OK hands up who's just read the entire fader Idle's put up?
*holds up hand sheepishly*
I was sat there with pen in hand to jot down flipping clues just in case the bastard had put anything in there.
Mind you it was bloody funny.
Will post something more game related later on this evening - just checking in. Though I'm not feeling the Total Lost votes right now.
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Post by shaggy on Dec 20, 2008 11:00:37 GMT -5
*****FLUFF***** Well I fly out today so I will be off for a few days, I promise on tuesday to catch up and post my thoughts. I will be voting on thursday as that will be the last day I can vote. Till then I am holding off.
*****end fluff******
I do have to say, What is with the ripping into AH and TL ? I asked the same thing, but they did it in a more easy to understand way. The more I see the more I have them pegged as town! Seeing as they are more coherant then me, but similar ideas.
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Post by Almost Human on Dec 20, 2008 12:36:43 GMT -5
I am not getting the angst about what's going on over in minus world. I think we should concentrate on what's going on here. This all seems to be an unnecessary distraction and I'm beginning to question motivations. And the idea that we stop pursusing scum/pfk is silly beyond words. FOS totallost and AHNot sure if my FOS is for talking about the Minus World or the pursuing scum/pfk thing. If it's the latter then I think you misread me - I definitely think we should be hunting bad guys. If it's the former then fair enough - I thought I was onto something but I seem to be the only one that does. As for a vote. I'm not terribly suspicious of any of you so I'm going, for the time being, to fall back on stuff I remember Story saying about his suspicions as at least I know he was town and he is a good player. Hope I'm remembering correctly but I'm fairly certain he was getting a town vibe from myself, KidV and Zeriel. Nothing strong or anything just a leaning. And I'm pretty sure he named Santo and Nanook in his list of suspicions. Nanook for the vote change onto bufftabby when he was gunning for pede and Santo for something but I honestly can't remember what right now - maybe it'll come to me. And Santo if I'm wrong then I apologise. So anyway, although I'm almost positive Santo was mentioned I can't remember exactly why. He's also been contributing. Nanook on the other hand I barely remember. Yes, I realise your posts have mostly been substansive but they're few and far between so it doesn't really leave us much to go on. vote NanookThe way I see it, there's a chance that none of us are scum. If that's the case then I'd rather vote for someone who's contributing less than everyone else. Blocky's also not said very much at all so he'd be my second choice. It'd be really sweet if one of you would do something scummy!
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Post by sinjin on Dec 20, 2008 22:45:25 GMT -5
AH I FOS'd you for the minus world thing, TL for the "hmmm should we still be hunting scum?" thing.
And I'm sorry but I'm getting a FB vs probords vibe too. Maybe I'm paranoid, but I don't trust anybody, ever, and I do NOT get the, "well I trust Mitey and AH and Shaggy and totallost" bs I see going on. And now you're voting for Nanook because you think Story thought he was suspicious. Story, the guy who single-mindedly led the bufftabby lynch express. I like the guy as much as anyone but he does make mistakes.
I feel this is such a BS reason to vote for someone. You kind of allude to the fact that he hasn't posted much and feel fine with voting for someone who isn't contributing much. And in the next breath you mention misterblocky hasn't done much either. Well for the record, I take notes and here are are number of posts of both Nanook and mr blocky for days one and two. Unfortunately I don't have the numbers for day 3:
Nanook; day one = 9, day two = 4 MB; day one = 11, day two = 2
And if I recall correctly mister blockey's post were pretty insubstantial as compared to Nanook's.
This does not mean that I in anyway favor Nanook over MB. Just that I think the reasons you give for your vote are bs.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Dec 20, 2008 23:13:29 GMT -5
OK hands up who's just read the entire fader Idle's put up? *holds up hand sheepishly* I was sat there with pen in hand to jot down flipping clues just in case the bastard had put anything in there. Mind you it was bloody funny. Will post something more game related later on this evening - just checking in. Though I'm not feeling the Total Lost votes right now. Hahaha, glad you enjoyed it. I was wondering if anyone would read it.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Dec 20, 2008 23:14:14 GMT -5
Total Lost - 2 votes (zeriel, santo rugger) Nanook - 1 vote (Almost Human)
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Post by Almost Human on Dec 21, 2008 2:20:05 GMT -5
AH I FOS'd you for the minus world thing, TL for the "hmmm should we still be hunting scum?" thing. And I'm sorry but I'm getting a FB vs probords vibe too. Maybe I'm paranoid, but I don't trust anybody, ever, and I do NOT get the, "well I trust Mitey and AH and Shaggy and totallost" bs I see going on. And now you're voting for Nanook because you think Story thought he was suspicious. Story, the guy who single-mindedly led the bufftabby lynch express. I like the guy as much as anyone but he does make mistakes. I feel this is such a BS reason to vote for someone. You kind of allude to the fact that he hasn't posted much and feel fine with voting for someone who isn't contributing much. And in the next breath you mention misterblocky hasn't done much either. Well for the record, I take notes and here are are number of posts of both Nanook and mr blocky for days one and two. Unfortunately I don't have the numbers for day 3: Nanook; day one = 9, day two = 4 MB; day one = 11, day two = 2 And if I recall correctly mister blockey's post were pretty insubstantial as compared to Nanook's. This does not mean that I in anyway favor Nanook over MB. Just that I think the reasons you give for your vote are bs. BS reasons? Hell yes they are, it was that or random.org because I don't have any strong feelings towards any of the people in here. If I thought a no lynch was beneficial then I'd be suggesting that instead but some information is better than none. Yes, of course story can make mistakes, I don't think he's omnipotent, but he's a hell of a better player than I am. And sorry, but I really wish you wouldn't lump me into the FB love club. I may be a little more familiar with their style because I've played with them before but believe me I'll lynch them in a second if I think they're scum. I certainly don't expect you to have read any of the FB games but if you had you'd know I'll happily vote for any of them.
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Post by Almost Human on Dec 21, 2008 2:21:33 GMT -5
Bugger, that came across really snippy. Sorry, it's 7am and I haven't been to bed yet - must get sleep!
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Post by Total Ullz on Dec 21, 2008 11:17:46 GMT -5
And I'm sorry but I'm getting a FB vs probords vibe too. Maybe I'm paranoid, but I don't trust anybody, ever, and I do NOT get the, "well I trust Mitey and AH and Shaggy and totallost" bs I see going on. And now you're voting for Nanook because you think Story thought he was suspicious. Story, the guy who single-mindedly led the bufftabby lynch express. I like the guy as much as anyone but he does make mistakes. Where did you see a "FB"-group? I'm getting really tired of that accusation. I never had (and can't imagine I ever will get) any problems voting for anyone who has played on FB. If I didn't feel fine with voting for someone, I would play with them. Could you please tell me why you think I have a problem with voting for people on your FB-list?
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Post by Nanook on Dec 21, 2008 13:20:28 GMT -5
I'm sorry I haven't been around the last few days. My wife got sick just recently, and we've been going nuts getting ready to fly to Arizona for Christmas.
Yes, AH, I don't have many posts. But that's mainly because I don't post fluff at all really. I'd rather have 20 posts, 90 or 95% of which relate to the game, than 100 of which only 20% are relevent. Futher, I only generally post when I feel I have something worthwhile to contribute, whether it's analysis or theory relating to the current game.
Choosing me, when Blockey is similar is interesting. Especially when you yourself say that my posts are substansive. It appears to be entirely based on a small interaction between me and Story. Following story's lead did us oh so much good with Tabby didn't it?
By the by, you mentioned no lynch. I actually think that if you honestly feel that you have no good candidates for lynching on this side, that this is one of the few times that a no-lynch would potentially be a decent move. In general, it is not because there's always a possibilty of hitting scum, and even if you don't you learn something from the voting and reasons provided. In this case however, we don't even know if there ARE any scum to hit. Personally, I don't think it's the right choice, but I also don't feel it can be dismissed out of hand like it normally can.
In the other game I wasn't willing to put down a vote when I wasn't going to be around for a week. In this game though, with the extended Day, I'm going to go ahead and do so.
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A little bit of instinct, and a lot of the feeling that you are jumping on me in an attempt to get a wagon going against someone you know if town on a Day when people are at a bit of a loss for what to do.
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Post by sinjin on Dec 21, 2008 15:08:13 GMT -5
Totallost: My FB reference was due to the following sequence of posts toDay on top of other similar posts I recall from previous threads Shaggy: Totallost: Almost Human: Shaggy: Such shows of support in such a short period of time just make me even more paranoid than I always am to begin with. Oh and AH, don’t be concerned if you’re snippy with me. Snippy is my middle name, although for some reason people pronounce it “bitchy” on this board.
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Post by Total Ullz on Dec 21, 2008 16:01:19 GMT -5
Totallost: My FB reference was due to the following sequence of posts toDay on top of other similar posts I recall from previous threads Shaggy: Totallost: Almost Human: Shaggy: Such shows of support in such a short period of time just make me even more paranoid than I always am to begin with. Oh and AH, don’t be concerned if you’re snippy with me. Snippy is my middle name, although for some reason people pronounce it “bitchy” on this board. I really don't like this "FB-storyline" - and I don't think it is the right way to play the game. Santo played on FB as well - and I (and AH) played on SDMB. Santo startede this when he implied that I would never vote for MiteyM because we were some kind of FB-buddies. Santo is this still your reason (or part of it) for voting for me? Shaggys claim (or rather the M-guy before him and the way he subbed out) made me think the guy might be vanilla - might not. I'm still looking at him and watching his every move... same way I do AH, you and every one else. Did you ever think that if some from the FB-group is scum and some is town (very likely IMO) - the way this is going is to play right into the hands of scum? To say you vote for someone because they have played on FB is very un-cool. It meta-gaming in a very pro-scum way.
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Post by Total Ullz on Dec 21, 2008 16:06:11 GMT -5
And sorry, but I really wish you wouldn't lump me into the FB love club. I may be a little more familiar with their style because I've played with them before but believe me I'll lynch them in a second if I think they're scum. I certainly don't expect you to have read any of the FB games but if you had you'd know I'll happily vote for any of them. And here we go again - more to the "Story-line" of the FB love club. Why would you imply that there IS a FB-gang? Just saying... I'm watching this very closely...
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Post by Total Ullz on Dec 21, 2008 16:23:18 GMT -5
To say you vote for someone because they have played on FB is very un-cool. It meta-gaming in a very pro-scum way. This look like I was saying Sinjin voted for that reason - I didn't mean that. But as far as I can tell a part of SANTOS vote for me is still based on the FB-idea. Never meant to smudge Sinjin with a vote that was never there - really sorry.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Dec 21, 2008 17:15:39 GMT -5
Total Lost - 2 votes (zeriel, santo rugger) Nanook - 1 vote (Almost Human) Almost Human - 1 vote (Nanook)
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Post by Almost Human on Dec 21, 2008 17:30:56 GMT -5
Total I phrased my last but one post badly. It did sound as though I was lumping the other FB players together - that wasn't my intention. It was meant to be more of a disagreement on the assumption that we're some sort of clique. Sinjin, yes I did say I wasn't feeling the Total Lost votes. I also said yesterDay that I wasn't feeling the peeker votes who, as far as I know, has never played on FB. If I don't agree with something I'm going to say it regardless of where somebody's played before. That said....Nanook, you're right. I'm voting with crap reasons and so unvote NanookThere are plenty of days left in the Day so maybe I'll have an epiphany or failing that a sharp blow to the head. Right now I haven't a bloody clue
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Post by Mister Blockey on Dec 21, 2008 18:36:34 GMT -5
I'm really distracted what with christmas and all, but I'm trying to at least read along.
I will say the voting and fosing over people trying to metagame the split and the win condition is silly.
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Post by Zeriel on Dec 22, 2008 0:00:47 GMT -5
If I hear the phrase "story-line" one more time my head is going to explode.
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Post by Total Ullz on Dec 22, 2008 2:23:56 GMT -5
If I hear the phrase "story-line" one more time my head is going to explode. Now you tempt me... must not say it must not say it must not say it... ;D
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Post by Zeriel on Dec 22, 2008 9:35:00 GMT -5
The internal jury is still out as to whether it's a valid method of describing the game flow--I tend to notice that the more anti-town things tend to happen at the fracture points between stories. That is, when someone derails an ongoing trend to a complete stop mid-Day, the next thing that picks up is likely to be a town lynch unless it's truly solid.
On the other hand, that's where I tend to get lynched the most. =P
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Post by sinjin on Dec 22, 2008 9:56:36 GMT -5
I'm really distracted what with christmas and all, but I'm trying to at least read along. I will say the voting and fosing over people trying to metagame the split and the win condition is silly. And you don't think it's silly to suggest we stop hunting scum/pfk? That is not meta-gaming.
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