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Post by storyteller0910 on Dec 4, 2008 8:36:20 GMT -5
Story: bufftabby did say she would reveal her powers before the end of the day. If she makes a full reveal at T-minus one hour or something like that, I'll unvote her and then vote her again in all caps, just to make sure my vote is fresh and emphasized. A last-minute claim, if it's credited by even one or two people, is a recipe for a rushed and ill-planned lynch. That shit is the last thing we need after a Day like this. Well, if you're Scum, you might not have a creditable claim. This early in the game, with no idea what kinds of pro-Town powers actually exist, making up a claim from scratch would be a challenge. But a soft-claim puts doubt in people's heads without giving them something solid to grab on. I tried to make that work in Cecilvania, but the Town forced a hard claim out of me pretty quickly.
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Post by Chucara on Dec 4, 2008 8:40:43 GMT -5
Story: bufftabby did say she would reveal her powers before the end of the day. If she makes a full reveal at T-minus one hour or something like that, I'll unvote her and then vote her again in all caps, just to make sure my vote is fresh and emphasized. A last-minute claim, if it's credited by even one or two people, is a recipe for a rushed and ill-planned lynch. That shit is the last thing we need after a Day like this. Good points (even the one I didn't quote). Anyway the reason I mentioned the first was that you said that you didn't want her to go down without us knowing her powers.. If she really is town, we will know them if she keeps her promise. I'll ponder my vote.. I don't think either of them (DBI and bufftabby) is playing particularly pro-town at the moment.
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Post by Almost Human on Dec 4, 2008 8:45:41 GMT -5
Yeah, break it out, you bandwagon-jumping circle-jerkers. If this is how Town is going to play, we deserve to lose. There are not enough rolleyes smilies in the world for this weak-ass bullshit. FTR I prefer to be in the middle of the circle when that kind of stuff's going on but seeing as you asked so nicely (BTW I'm kidding - if you do turn out town this must be really frustrating) OK, for starters my gut is telling me you're scum, more based on your reactions to posts (notably story's) than anything else. It's Day 1 - it's understandable to go on gut feelings and there isn't a lot of point rehashing what's already been said so yes I am going "me too". In your responses to story you focused on the "debacle" part of his post rather than the main point of it which was that the interaction between him and Mr Ed had been turned into an Event. The original post wasn't even particularly directed at you (at least it didn't seem so to me) so your reaction to it seemed over the top. It isn't a huge amount to go on but I'd have expected a town bufftabby to have either shrugged it off or, if you'd genuinely misunderstood the post's intent to have asked for clarification. You didn't. unvote bufftabby vote storyteller
This is who I find suspicious.
I do not wish to fullclaim. There is no reason why suddenly knowing my paltry power should cause an unvote. Unvote me because the argument is bunk and my accuser is scum. Or at least take as much information as you can from the voters for my lynch. I think the vote record for me will prove valuable. Shouldn't the interest of the Town outweigh my desire for self-preservation? This came after my vote but WTF? Seriously, if you have a power however paltry shouldn't you let the rest of the town decide on whether or not you should be lynched. Yes the interest of the Town should outweigh your desire for self-preservation but a vanilla is more expendable than a power role surely? Also, even if you do turn out to be town I don't see how that makes story scum (or town for that matter). Whatever your allignment or his there was a good case made for the votes against you. If you are town then you should see that and while it's one thing to voice your suspicions of story it's quite another to infer that proof of your towniness will prove him to be scum. unvote storyteller vote bufftabby
I do not want to see a death by irony lynch. Why? It won't tell us anything. The bufftabbyvote record will be much more useful to Town, I think. I also (echoing my favorite rugger, santo get the sense that DBI is just tired of geting voted off all the time etc. I think if she were scum, she'd be all over this game. I could be wrong, but I'd rather go than her. Feel free to metagame about how she must be higher-ranking scum than me, but the Dusk post shall reveal all. I'm not especially useful to Town anyway, so small loss. Got my quotes in the wrong order - this one should have come before the last. This makes little sense to me. If a scum DBI would be "all over this game" then surely also a DBI with a cool power role would be too. Though I don't agree that a DBI of any allignment/power would necessarily be all over this game if she's in the middle of exams. I don't really know why you said it, it just seems like an excuse for voting for yourself. And the your "Dusk post shall reveal all" comment. Are you trying to be mysterious? Are you not allowed to tell us your power? Or what? So anyway, there's some reasons for my vote. Admittedly it isn't wildly original as a lot of it's me agreeing with people but for a Day 1 vote I don't think it's a bad one.
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Post by Almost Human on Dec 4, 2008 8:51:09 GMT -5
Christ you guys type quickly - there was almost a whole 'nother page by the time I'd finished!
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Post by Zeriel on Dec 4, 2008 9:11:19 GMT -5
Story, you raise an excellent point.
vote Bufftabby
Buffers, you're protesting too much and frankly I don't want to see someone else get railroaded because you can't be bothered to claim before the last freaking hours.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Dec 4, 2008 9:44:12 GMT -5
mmouse! I see you there, online, on the board, right now this moment. If you are reading this, will you answer just one question (if, obviously, you are able to)?
Are you in any way restricted from posting to this game?
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Post by Santo Rugger on Dec 4, 2008 9:50:34 GMT -5
I will be kind of flakey probably until at least Finals are over - passing classes is a little bit more important than playing mafia, sorry. (To be specific, I am NOT able to connect to the site, PERIOD, on Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Fridays; the other days of the week I'm usually not awake before 10 am.) I thought you lived in Florida? Wasn't it Wednesday in Florida yesterday?
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Post by peekercpa on Dec 4, 2008 9:56:58 GMT -5
I will be kind of flakey probably until at least Finals are over - passing classes is a little bit more important than playing mafia, sorry. (To be specific, I am NOT able to connect to the site, PERIOD, on Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Fridays; the other days of the week I'm usually not awake before 10 am.) I thought you lived in Florida? Wasn't it Wednesday in Florida yesterday? Yep, I made this same observation in 1.775. And, pede, no I am not telling which is which. I already piss off enough people.
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Post by mmouse9799 on Dec 4, 2008 9:57:41 GMT -5
mmouse! I see you there, online, on the board, right now this moment. If you are reading this, will you answer just one question (if, obviously, you are able to)? Are you in any way restricted from posting to this game? No, I don't have any restrictions. I'm just having a hard time trying to figure out how to actually play this game. I've read a number of them, and helped create roles and color for one, so I know how they work. On top of it, I have this stinkin' PFK role. I don't have powers or anything to help the town or have a pro-town win condition, and so I have no idea how to play this. And frankly, you are all intimidating.
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Day One
Dec 4, 2008 10:00:03 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Dec 4, 2008 10:00:03 GMT -5
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Day One
Dec 4, 2008 10:02:08 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Dec 4, 2008 10:02:08 GMT -5
Wha - huh - well - but - uh -
Since you went that far, would you like to tell us more?
Also, uh, if we have a pro-Town Vig out there, uh, just want to make sure you read that and all. OK, yeah. OK.
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Day One
Dec 4, 2008 10:03:04 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Dec 4, 2008 10:03:04 GMT -5
mmouse! I see you there, online, on the board, right now this moment. If you are reading this, will you answer just one question (if, obviously, you are able to)? Are you in any way restricted from posting to this game? No, I don't have any restrictions. I'm just having a hard time trying to figure out how to actually play this game. I've read a number of them, and helped create roles and color for one, so I know how they work. On top of it, I have this stinkin' PFK role. I don't have powers or anything to help the town or have a pro-town win condition, and so I have no idea how to play this. And frankly, you are all intimidating. This may be the oddest quote I have ever seen. Are you channeling zeriel?
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Dec 4, 2008 10:14:11 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Dec 4, 2008 10:14:11 GMT -5
Wha - huh - well - but - uh - Did everyone see this?? MM7799 actually made Story lost for words Isn't this when we all unovte and vote MM7799??? UNVOTE DBIVOTE MM7799
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Day One
Dec 4, 2008 10:15:13 GMT -5
Post by Zeriel on Dec 4, 2008 10:15:13 GMT -5
Hey, I represent that.
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Day One
Dec 4, 2008 10:16:33 GMT -5
Post by Zeriel on Dec 4, 2008 10:16:33 GMT -5
I would NOT vote for mmouse, though. Beware mightily the last-minute vote switch to an obvious target, for it could be designed to get you bombed or jestered.
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Day One
Dec 4, 2008 10:15:09 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Dec 4, 2008 10:15:09 GMT -5
I'm - This - What? ?
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Day One
Dec 4, 2008 10:17:09 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Dec 4, 2008 10:17:09 GMT -5
I would NOT vote for mmouse, though. Beware mightily the last-minute vote switch to an obvious target, for it could be designed to get you bombed or jestered. Sensible words, friend zeriel.
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Day One
Dec 4, 2008 10:18:48 GMT -5
Post by mmouse9799 on Dec 4, 2008 10:18:48 GMT -5
Wha - huh - well - but - uh - Did everyone see this?? MM7799 actually made Story lost for words Isn't this when we all unovte and vote MM7799??? UNVOTE DBIVOTE MM7799
Surely I get bonus points for being called "odd" by Peeker.
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Dec 4, 2008 10:19:19 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Dec 4, 2008 10:19:19 GMT -5
Wha - huh - well - but - uh - Did everyone see this?? MM7799 actually made Story lost for words Isn't this when we all unovte and vote MM7799??? UNVOTE DBIVOTE MM7799
You might be right - I guess! So I'll: UNVOTE MM7799VOTE DBI
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Day One
Dec 4, 2008 10:19:28 GMT -5
Post by MiteyMouse on Dec 4, 2008 10:19:28 GMT -5
mmouse! I see you there, online, on the board, right now this moment. If you are reading this, will you answer just one question (if, obviously, you are able to)? Are you in any way restricted from posting to this game? No, I don't have any restrictions. I'm just having a hard time trying to figure out how to actually play this game. I've read a number of them, and helped create roles and color for one, so I know how they work. On top of it, I have this stinkin' PFK role. I don't have powers or anything to help the town or have a pro-town win condition, and so I have no idea how to play this. And frankly, you are all intimidating. I'm not even sure what to say here!
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Day One
Dec 4, 2008 10:22:22 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Dec 4, 2008 10:22:22 GMT -5
Surely I get bonus points for being called "odd" by Peeker. Yes, that needs to go in the Wiki. Any chance you're going to share anything more about yourself toDay?
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Dec 4, 2008 10:23:47 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Dec 4, 2008 10:23:47 GMT -5
Go to the other side of the office to get some coffee, and this is what I come back to? I never thought in 2 16 years that I'd see that post. I would NOT vote for mmouse, though. Beware mightily the last-minute vote switch to an obvious target, for it could be designed to get you bombed or jestered. Not voting for mmouse could allow us to determine if we have a Vig or not.
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Day One
Dec 4, 2008 10:31:16 GMT -5
Post by bufftabby on Dec 4, 2008 10:31:16 GMT -5
Also, even if you do turn out to be town I don't see how that makes story scum (or town for that matter). Whatever your allignment or his there was a good case made for the votes against you. If you are town then you should see that and while it's one thing to voice your suspicions of story it's quite another to infer that proof of your towniness will prove him to be scum.Why yes, yes it is. So why don't you go ahead and quote where I said me being Town would make story automatically scum. I've said "here are my suspicions". I've said "look at the vote record." I've never said my death and subsequent reveal as Town would demonstrate anyone to be scum. The "good case" against me is built of things like this. @ NAF: you said defensiveness was "sort of my tell". I invite you to Dusk, where you'll see that to be false. @ story: if I were going to make any last-ditch scum efforts, I think I'd do a hell of a lot better than this. I'm sure between me and "my scum buddies", we could work out a decent claim. I DON'T WANT TO BE UNVOTED BASED ON ANY CLAIM. I AM A ONE SHOT VIG, AND ONLY IF I CAN FIND MY BERRIES. See? I'm useless. My power can even hurt Town, should my judgment suck. There is no reason *that* should make anyone unvote me. Uh huh. Yeah. Hi. Fucking hilarious.
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Day One
Dec 4, 2008 10:36:30 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Dec 4, 2008 10:36:30 GMT -5
I DON'T WANT TO BE UNVOTED BASED ON ANY CLAIM. I AM A ONE SHOT VIG, AND ONLY IF I CAN FIND MY BERRIES. This aspect of the claim, if true, is almost surely confirmable by someone else in the game (ie, the "berries" thing must be known to at least one other player).
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Day One
Dec 4, 2008 10:40:03 GMT -5
Post by bufftabby on Dec 4, 2008 10:40:03 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm gonna vote for the admitted PFK. Leaving her alive and lynching me will most assuredly demonstrate the presence of a vig, however. So true Rugger, so true. I do hope there's a full vig out there, with some damn good judgment. I'll still be rooting for Town from the other side.
unvote storyteller[/color] vote mmouse9799[/color]
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Dec 4, 2008 10:40:06 GMT -5
Post by Merestil Haye on Dec 4, 2008 10:40:06 GMT -5
My first gut call was "Wha?"
However, what is the Town win condition? In general, PFK roles aren't scum aligned, but self-aligned. In other words, the Town doesn't necessarily have to eliminate a PFK. I can think of only two. One, the PFK player is about to achieve an exclusive win condition. Two, the presence of the PFK means that the scum achieve their win condition (or prevent the Town from achieving their win condition).
So, why take the knee-jerk "lynch her" route right now? At least wait until we know a bit more.
As for the Bufftabby imbroglio, I need to reread everything that happened overnight, and reread the exchanges, to decide whether to vote for her.
Who knows, tomorrow we may even be able to talk about the Bufftabby debacle?
d&r
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Day One
Dec 4, 2008 10:43:48 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Dec 4, 2008 10:43:48 GMT -5
Fuck, man, I hate this. Whatever buff's alignment, and whatever she claims about her intentions here, we are collectively left with a frustrating dilemma. She appears to be the (or at least a) main candidate for lynching, but she has claimed a potentially confirmable - though not currently confirmable role that could be of significant use to us. At this point, a shift would be ill-considered, but staying where we are might be ill-considered, too.
Thoughts? We have just over two hours.
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Day One
Dec 4, 2008 10:45:24 GMT -5
Post by bufftabby on Dec 4, 2008 10:45:24 GMT -5
@ story Well that's why I asked last night if anyone had berries. So I could go ahead and get the somewhat confirmable part of things out there. Even if folks are aware of their berries, what does it really prove, anyway? That a single part of my claim is true. The rest of it could easily be BS.
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Dec 4, 2008 10:48:31 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Dec 4, 2008 10:48:31 GMT -5
I dunno, story, I don't think a one-shot is really confirmable. Sure, a single kill might be confirmable, but there are a handful of ways a SK or scum could pull that part of it off. Part of me thinks she's looking for eggs and berries, each of which give her a different ability. Why else would she ask for eggs and then berries almost immediately after?
Also, what game are berries from?
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Day One
Dec 4, 2008 10:48:50 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Dec 4, 2008 10:48:50 GMT -5
@ story Well that's why I asked last night if anyone had berries. So I could go ahead and get the somewhat confirmable part of things out there. Even if folks are aware of their berries, what does it really prove, anyway? That a single part of my claim is true. The rest of it could easily be BS. Sure, but it's a start. Say I had berries (I don't), and knew I could give them to someone. We could partially test your claim here by giving you berries and letting you kill mmouse. Even if you're just flat lying and Scum, and used the Scum Night kill to foil our test, we'd still accrue advantage from that (the wasted Scum Night kill). I ask the following without judgment, and without asking for elaboration: are you leaving anything substantive at all out of your claim, however minor?
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