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Day Two
Dec 9, 2008 17:48:49 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Dec 9, 2008 17:48:49 GMT -5
Idle Thoughts, could you please define the word: "Useful"? Anything (powers or otherwise), that one knows about, that has any barring on the outcome of the game.
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Day Two
Dec 9, 2008 17:51:37 GMT -5
Post by Almost Human on Dec 9, 2008 17:51:37 GMT -5
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No. That's the opposite of what he said there. Here you go if you still want it: By the way...the SMB game going on right now is NOT a gastard game...although a lot of people seem to think it is and have even said it is. This amuses me since I didn't intend or ever think of it as a gastard game. I see it as a silly, ridiculous, fun, unpredictable game....but not one that actually goes out of the way to screw with the players or make things overly hard to win.
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Day Two
Dec 9, 2008 18:00:41 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Dec 9, 2008 18:00:41 GMT -5
Here you go if you still want it: By the way...the SMB game going on right now is NOT a gastard game...although a lot of people seem to think it is and have even said it is. This amuses me since I didn't intend or ever think of it as a gastard game. I see it as a silly, ridiculous, fun, unpredictable game....but not one that actually goes out of the way to screw with the players or make things overly hard to win. Isn't that the opposite of Idle saying this was a Gastard game?
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Day Two
Dec 9, 2008 18:05:04 GMT -5
Post by Zeriel on Dec 9, 2008 18:05:04 GMT -5
I personally am disinclined to believe MiteyMouse for a fairly simple reason: The weather color included with it the warnings for low posters.
I think it'd be rather Gastardly of Idle to combine the color of a clearly mod function (public warning of imminent subs) with the color of a player-initiated function (MiteyMouse's supposed power).
So yeah, I'll be happy with either of the mice dying today. We need neither Iagos nor people who can't keep a simple and ridiculous claim straight.
I'm going to register a vote now, with the caveat that I vote Mitey tomorrow, and her only hope to avoid my vote is to predict a weather change to something ridiculous prior to the Day end (like a rain of blood or fish or something, since there were no constraints whatsoever in her quoted PM) and that's what it is tomorrow--at least she'll be proven not a liar on one count.
If you pick something, anything that's a typical mario-level weather, that doesn't count. There's only a few of those, and if Idle's iterating them randomly or using them as mod color, I don't want you hitting on one by accident.
Vote mmouse7799
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Day Two
Dec 9, 2008 18:05:47 GMT -5
Post by Almost Human on Dec 9, 2008 18:05:47 GMT -5
<!--//-->I'm going to go and have dinner and come back when my brain's defuzzed cos right now I can't see a reason why your pm wouldn't tell you about any side effects.
Idle did say this wasn't a Gastard game didn't he? (bolding mine) <!--//-->
By the way...the SMB game going on right now is NOT a gastard game...although a lot of people seem to think it is and have even said it is. This amuses me since I didn't intend or ever think of it as a gastard game. I see it as a silly, ridiculous, fun, unpredictable game....but not one that actually goes out of the way to screw with the players or make things overly hard to win. Isn't that the opposite of Idle saying this was a Gastard game? [/size][/quote] Yes. I said didn't Idle say this wasn't a gastard game. *slaps Santo with a large haddock for wasting my time!*
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Day Two
Dec 9, 2008 18:11:54 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Dec 9, 2008 18:11:54 GMT -5
You know what sucks? When you have a long post being written, and then your cat jumps up and rubs his head on the keyboard, in the process erasing the whole thing. My cat just learned how to fly. Conversation Today has ground to a halt compared to Yesterday. And the reason is obvious. All this talk about a bomb and how to handle a bomb and what if it's a time bomb and blah blah blah is getting us nowhere. We need to just lynch MMouse and move on, otherwise we're going to shoot ourselves in the foot long term. Obviously MMouse has her own plan and ideas on how to play and is not going to listen to the people calling for a full claim, and no amount of threatening to vote for her is going to change that. So just give it to her. I know Idle can be a gastard(Chia Bingo Manager anyone?), but I don't believe for a second that he would allow a role into the game that can steal a win from everyone on Day 2 with such a ridiculously easy requirement as simply being lynched. And if she's a scum bomb instead? Since when is a 1 for 1 trade on Day 2 a bad thing? Sure, if she's lucky or has a good read on someone she might hit a power role, but even that isn't the end of the world. The current Dope game should have shown people the danger of relying on power roles. Use them sure, rely on them no. The only real question to my mind now is whether we should go ahead and end the Day now, or wait til later to do so. Right now I'm leaning towards waiting til later, since there's still the possibility of some decent conversation Today, though if continues to be as stagnant as it is right now, we might want to just end it and move on. On the topic of moving on, I'd like to address something else. I don't believe peeker when he says that he received the PM regarding the changed win condition. The timing of the whole thing just doesn't work for me. When he posted over the weekend, he definately came across to me as someone who hadn't received the PM. Then on Monday, he came out with his little "Oh I received it, I was just trying to trap someone" spiel. Knowing that there are many players who don't post on weekends, and knowing that scum can talk during the Day, putting two and two together makes me think that someone came into the thread, saw the interactions, and then posted to the scum boards telling peeker that he couldn't ignore it and giving him an idea of what to say to try and cover his ass. The whole situation just stinks to me, and right now he's moved into the top spot on my suspicion list after MMouse. Well sorry you feel this way. I got a PM titled Bing! with a PM that sounded shiny. Turns out it was nothing more that a direct quote from what was posted in the vanilla town role. So, it turned out not to mean jerk. Don't think anyone has quoted the subject so if you got the same PM I did you should be able to confirm the subject line.
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Day Two
Dec 9, 2008 18:15:17 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Dec 9, 2008 18:15:17 GMT -5
Idle Thoughts, could you please define the word: "Useful"? Anything (powers or otherwise), that one knows about, that has any barring on the outcome of the game. Well this here more or less confirms that Mitey is lying about something. Because changing win conditions does effect the game without a doubt. So Mitey is a liar and MMouse is a self confessed anti town element. What is it with the mice in this game? So the question is now, who do we lynch first? Both mice must die, and frankly Mitey's power scares the crap out of me. Mmouse scares me a whole lot less.
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Day Two
Dec 9, 2008 18:15:47 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Dec 9, 2008 18:15:47 GMT -5
Here you go if you still want it: Isn't that the opposite of Idle saying this was a Gastard game? Uh...no?
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Day Two
Dec 9, 2008 18:21:38 GMT -5
Post by Almost Human on Dec 9, 2008 18:21:38 GMT -5
Anything (powers or otherwise), that one knows about, that has any barring on the outcome of the game. Well this here more or less confirms that Mitey is lying about something. Because changing win conditions does effect the game without a doubt. So Mitey is a liar and MMouse is a self confessed anti town element. What is it with the mice in this game? So the question is now, who do we lynch first? Both mice must die, and frankly Mitey's power scares the crap out of me. Mmouse scares me a whole lot less. Though she does say she didn't know about it. I'm not saying I believe her but if she's telling the truth then it would fit with what Idle said: "Anything (powers or otherwise), that one knows about, that has any barring on the outcome of the game."
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Dec 9, 2008 18:22:08 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Dec 9, 2008 18:22:08 GMT -5
Yes. I said didn't Idle say this wasn't a gastard game. *slaps Santo with a large haddock for wasting my time!* Whoah, my bad. I wouldn't have used that sentence structure to denote a negative. My humble apologies.
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Day Two
Dec 9, 2008 18:24:04 GMT -5
Post by Almost Human on Dec 9, 2008 18:24:04 GMT -5
Yes. I said didn't Idle say this wasn't a gastard game. *slaps Santo with a large haddock for wasting my time!* Whoah, my bad. I wouldn't have used that sentence structure to denote a negative. My humble apologies. 'Tis ok, it was pretty badly worded. I will have to withold the four in a bed pictures from the weekend from you now though.
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Dec 9, 2008 18:24:18 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Dec 9, 2008 18:24:18 GMT -5
Isn't that the opposite of Idle saying this was a Gastard game? Uh...no? Damn it, now I'm REALLY confused.
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Dec 9, 2008 18:24:53 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Dec 9, 2008 18:24:53 GMT -5
'Tis ok, it was pretty badly worded. I will have to withold the four in a bed pictures from the weekend from you now though. I hate you.
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Day Two
Dec 9, 2008 18:25:47 GMT -5
Post by Almost Human on Dec 9, 2008 18:25:47 GMT -5
'Tis ok, it was pretty badly worded. I will have to withold the four in a bed pictures from the weekend from you now though. I hate you. ;D
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Dec 9, 2008 18:26:55 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Dec 9, 2008 18:26:55 GMT -5
Though she does say she didn't know about it. I'm not saying I believe her but if she's telling the truth then it would fit with what Idle said: "Anything (powers or otherwise), that one knows about, that has any barring on the outcome of the game." No, it wouldn't: Idle explained to me that I can change the weather but, that I have no control over how I change the game...because Mallow is so emotional.
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Dec 9, 2008 18:28:21 GMT -5
Post by Trepa Mayfield on Dec 9, 2008 18:28:21 GMT -5
How do you know it wouldn't work? If I told you, it wouldn't work.
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Day Two
Dec 9, 2008 18:31:41 GMT -5
Post by Almost Human on Dec 9, 2008 18:31:41 GMT -5
Though she does say she didn't know about it. I'm not saying I believe her but if she's telling the truth then it would fit with what Idle said: "Anything (powers or otherwise), that one knows about, that has any barring on the outcome of the game." No, it wouldn't: Idle explained to me that I can change the weather but, that I have no control over how I change the game...because Mallow is so emotional. You're right. OK so I suppose it is just a case of deciding who goes first. I really am starting to wonder if the mice are connected though. And I am a bit concerned that all this is being done so that mmousenumber isn't the first one to go.
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Day Two
Dec 9, 2008 18:32:24 GMT -5
Post by Trepa Mayfield on Dec 9, 2008 18:32:24 GMT -5
Idle Thoughts, could you please define the word: "Useful"? Anything (powers or otherwise), that one knows about, that has any barring on the outcome of the game. At this point, it looks like Mitey attempted to change her PM from non-town to town and screwed up. It looks like, though, we can kill two birds with one stone. If we Unvote mmouse9799Vote Mitey Mousethen we can give one more day for mmouse to 'explode'. That, and she specifically said she couldn't kill anybody. If we're assuming she's lying...well, then she's dangerous
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Day Two
Dec 9, 2008 18:33:33 GMT -5
Post by Trepa Mayfield on Dec 9, 2008 18:33:33 GMT -5
In the last sentence, 'She' refers to Mitey Mouse.
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Day Two
Dec 9, 2008 19:01:31 GMT -5
Post by special on Dec 9, 2008 19:01:31 GMT -5
Wow, just wow
So, I still see that I'm suspicious. And for what?
For coming to the same conclusion that those who suspect me had? That is, that a vote for mmouse#### is probably a good thing.
It's a pity I just wanted to go for the straightforward vote instead of the brilliant ideas of "let's get the scum to vote for her" or "Let's give up who some vanilla town are." How could I have been such an idiot? It seems so foolish now. Our win condition says "kill the PFKs" We had a claimed and suspected PFK, and I just wanted to vote for her. I know, thankfully, I've seen the light now, and I'll try to come up with some outlandish idea to lynch said PFK without actually voting for her.
But, that stupidity aside, things have changed. And we do have until Saturday to decide on things.
So, now that I see how the game is played here, I'll just wait a day or two for another completely stupid role claim.
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Day Two
Dec 9, 2008 19:08:36 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Dec 9, 2008 19:08:36 GMT -5
So, now that I see how the game is played here, I'll just wait a day or two for another completely stupid role claim. I clicked reply to say that historically this isn't how we play the game. But then I thought back on the past few games and...well I don't know if that is true anymore. So instead I will say...Ouch! Buurrrrn.
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Day Two
Dec 9, 2008 19:12:04 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Dec 9, 2008 19:12:04 GMT -5
I personally am disinclined to believe MiteyMouse for a fairly simple reason: The weather color included with it the warnings for low posters. I think it'd be rather Gastardly of Idle to combine the color of a clearly mod function (public warning of imminent subs) with the color of a player-initiated function (MiteyMouse's supposed power). PLEASE NOTE: The warnings in the OP were just colorful ways of poking people who weren't posting as much. Since it was snowing anyway, I figured it would be an original way of doing it. Mallow's power had no bearing on their warnings.
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Day Two
Dec 9, 2008 19:15:46 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Dec 9, 2008 19:15:46 GMT -5
mmouse - 4 votes (Santo, Mr Special Ed, Cookies, misterblockey) Miteymouse - 4 votes (FLOD, Chucara, zeriel, Pedescribe) NAF - 1 vote (peekercpa)
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Dec 9, 2008 19:25:44 GMT -5
Post by Trepa Mayfield on Dec 9, 2008 19:25:44 GMT -5
Wow, just wow So, I still see that I'm suspicious. And for what? For coming to the same conclusion that those who suspect me had? That is, that a vote for mmouse#### is probably a good thing. It's a pity I just wanted to go for the straightforward vote instead of the brilliant ideas of "let's get the scum to vote for her" or "Let's give up who some vanilla town are." How could I have been such an idiot? It seems so foolish now. Our win condition says "kill the PFKs" We had a claimed and suspected PFK, and I just wanted to vote for her. I know, thankfully, I've seen the light now, and I'll try to come up with some outlandish idea to lynch said PFK without actually voting for her. But, that stupidity aside, things have changed. And we do have until Saturday to decide on things. So, now that I see how the game is played here, I'll just wait a day or two for another completely stupid role claim. Look at it this way--if everyone had thought the way that you did, that we should just vote mmouse immediately, she would have been lynched before Mitey Mouse had claimed. If this would have happened, Mitey Mouse probably would have claimed the next day in an attempt to gain our trust. By that point, of course, the weather might have said "Town must no-lynch and prevent nightkill to win". In any event, I only find you mildly suspicious--not enough to warrant a vote even if mmouse and Mitey Mouse were not in their current predicaments.
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Day Two
Dec 9, 2008 19:31:36 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Dec 9, 2008 19:31:36 GMT -5
I wasn't seriously suggesting that Idle confirm you. But can you see my dilemma here? You're saying that your PM says that your power is not helpful or useful at all, but it clearly can be. How can that be true? --FCOD Idle explained to me that I can change the weather but, that I have no control over how I change the game...because Mallow is so emotional. I do see the problem, which is part of why I came out so early in the day. This way we can either lynch me and that is fine or come up with a plan to see if we can use my power. By we, I mean the Town. Well this is the one that clinches it for me. How can you say vanilla but know that you have the power to change the game. Also, since it appears, based on your understanding of the various PMs you have received from Idle that you have no control over the effect that you have on the game how in the world would be able to channel this to town's benefit? When I got hung with a cruddy role in Marvel I didn't parse a whole bunch of this is what I thought the mod said blather. I just verbatim quoted every PM I sent and the response (or more frequently the non response) to said PMs. And, of course I did it in about a ten minute window so there would not be a lot of time to make up contrived nonsense. Unvote NAFVote MightyMouse[/color
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Day Two
Dec 9, 2008 19:33:49 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Dec 9, 2008 19:33:49 GMT -5
Crud.
[/color=blue]Vote MightyMouse[/color][/b]
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Day Two
Dec 9, 2008 19:34:56 GMT -5
Post by sinjin on Dec 9, 2008 19:34:56 GMT -5
And now Cookies is in my head. I had a post all made up about the inconsistencies in mitey's original claim, then read her PM and thought, yeah that would lead me to believe I had no power except to control the color too. It might turn out that she is lying, WHAT a concept, but for right now I am not cool on voting her off the island. I would hope we have at least one investigator out there who can ferret out the truth.
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Day Two
Dec 9, 2008 19:35:47 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Dec 9, 2008 19:35:47 GMT -5
Well eff me in the ass.
Vote Mighty Mouse
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Day Two
Dec 9, 2008 19:38:08 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Dec 9, 2008 19:38:08 GMT -5
Holy mother of Og.
Alleluia.
Lift high to the heavens a correct code. Also, chicken and dumplings for dinner.
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Day Two
Dec 9, 2008 19:42:38 GMT -5
Post by sinjin on Dec 9, 2008 19:42:38 GMT -5
*sinjin rummages around in her bag of tricks to find the perfect implement, ahhhh this one*
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