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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 16:11:07 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Dec 6, 2008 16:11:07 GMT -5
The night passed long and hot. Not even Cluck Clucks came out. And the piranha flowers all stayed inside as well.
Suddenly there was a scream and pasta flew everywhere.
Merestil Haye, AKA Mario....a Town (potential) one shot Doctor, (potential) one shot Investigator, and (potential) one shot Vigilante was taken out suprisingly early.
SUDDENLY! THE SKIES OPENED UP AND great drifts of snow started sweeping across the Mushroom Kingdom! It piled up everywhere and made everyone cold. Big, chunky, and stinging ice pellets came with it and slapped the players' faces.
MALLOW HAS CHANGED THE WEATHER! MALLOW CREATED A BLIZZARD!
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It is now Day Two. You will all be playing the game among great drifts of snow toDay. Try to stay as warm as you can.
1. Pedescribe 2. KidV 3. Total Lost 4. MiteyMouse 5. Zeriel 6. Kat 8. Boozahol Squid PI 9. Storyteller 10. Chucara 11. DBI 12. peekercpa 13. sinjin 14. Hoopy Frood 15. Almost Human 16. Mr Special Ed 17. NAF 18. misterblockey 20. FCoD 21. Cookies 22. mmouse 23. Nanook 24. Santo Rugger 25. Shaggy
It will take TWELVE votes on one person to lynch them automatically. OR...whoever has the MOST VOTES at the end of Day, which will be on next Saturday (one week from today) at 3PM MT.
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WARNING DBI, WARNING! YOUR BODY TEMPERATURE IS DROPPING TOO LOW. You are in danger of dying of hypothermia and being replaced if you don't post more.
WARNING MMOUSE, WARNING! YOUR BODY TEMPERATURE IS DROPPING TOO LOW. You are in danger of dying of hypothermia and being replaced if you don't post more.
WARNING BOOZAHOL, WARNING! YOUR BODY TEMPERATURE IS DROPPING TOO LOW. You are in danger of dying of hypothermia and being replaced if you don't post more.
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 16:16:59 GMT -5
Post by sinjin on Dec 6, 2008 16:16:59 GMT -5
Well, hell again. Sorry to see you go MHaye. Uh, what's a (potential) Doctor, Investigator, Vigilante? I've never seen that before. On another note, chill idea for lurkers Idle.
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 16:17:46 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Dec 6, 2008 16:17:46 GMT -5
Well I'm not that fond of changes - and I really didn't like this one from Mallow.
I can see the lurkers were warned - but were does that leave the rest of us?
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 16:16:31 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Dec 6, 2008 16:16:31 GMT -5
I have added info to the TOWN PM thread (the one that is stickied)
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 16:17:40 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Dec 6, 2008 16:17:40 GMT -5
[shameless bump of the jokes thread]I AM NOT HAPPY![/shameless bump]
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 16:18:48 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Dec 6, 2008 16:18:48 GMT -5
Well I'm not that fond of changes - and I really didn't like this one from Mallow. I can see the lurkers were warned - but were does that leave the rest of us? Other than freezing your nipples off, you're fine.
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 16:22:59 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Dec 6, 2008 16:22:59 GMT -5
Vote mmouse
This vote will stay until either a full reveal or a better target.
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 16:23:04 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Dec 6, 2008 16:23:04 GMT -5
Well I'm not that fond of changes - and I really didn't like this one from Mallow. I can see the lurkers were warned - but were does that leave the rest of us? Other than freezing your nipples off, you're fine. Yeah - well: I liked my nipples and really didn't want to see them go... but in Mafia, Love and War: I guess you have to be ready to sacrifice your nipples to stay in the game <3
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 16:31:03 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Dec 6, 2008 16:31:03 GMT -5
mmouse - 1 vote (Santo)
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 16:32:27 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Dec 6, 2008 16:32:27 GMT -5
Vote mmouseThis vote will stay until either a full reveal or a better target. I'm okay with that. I really would like if ToDay didn't end up just in a discussion about MM7799 - but right now... I see that lynch as a pro-town-thing: Vote MM7799
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 16:35:57 GMT -5
Post by Trepa Mayfield on Dec 6, 2008 16:35:57 GMT -5
What the hell? Okay, I got a really weird PM. I don't know if anyone else got this.
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Town now only wins when all PFK players are dead.
Please do not discuss or mention this until Day Two has started.[/quote]
That means either all the Scum just became PFK, or all the scum are absent for whatever reason.
Again, What the hell?
And who is Mallow?
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 16:38:45 GMT -5
Post by Trepa Mayfield on Dec 6, 2008 16:38:45 GMT -5
Looks like I'm a bit slow on the upkeep.
At this point, I agree that we should probably lynch our PFK.
Vote mmouse####
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 16:38:57 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Dec 6, 2008 16:38:57 GMT -5
mmouse - 3 votes (Santo, total lost, pedescribe)
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 16:44:12 GMT -5
Post by sinjin on Dec 6, 2008 16:44:12 GMT -5
Given our new win condition my vote will be on mmouse as soon as we decide to end the day, unless any other PFK's want to step forward.
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 16:48:28 GMT -5
Post by sinjin on Dec 6, 2008 16:48:28 GMT -5
Um guys, maybe, we should be careful not to end the day before it starts.
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 16:55:12 GMT -5
Post by special on Dec 6, 2008 16:55:12 GMT -5
Um guys, maybe, we should be careful not to end the day before it starts. Since we can talk strategy at Night, and Scum can talk during the Day. I see no real difference between Night and Day aside from the voting. Only 1 lynch in Night 1. That indicates that we most likely have 1 Scum group. Needing to lynch PFKs makes mmouse###'s claim yesterday incredibly unfortunate. vote mmouse####
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 16:58:48 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Dec 6, 2008 16:58:48 GMT -5
mmouse - 4 votes (Santo, total lost, pedescribe, Mr Special Ed)
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 17:01:26 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Dec 6, 2008 17:01:26 GMT -5
Vote mmouse[/color]
Anyone else still hoping we don't have any Bombs or Jesters running around?
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 17:07:03 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Dec 6, 2008 17:07:03 GMT -5
mmouse - 5 votes (Santo, total lost, pedescribe, Mr Special Ed, Cookies)
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 17:11:35 GMT -5
Post by Zeriel on Dec 6, 2008 17:11:35 GMT -5
I am NOT voting mmouse until she puts out a full claim--some PFKs may be worth leaving alive while the scum hunt commences--there have been PFK doctors, for example, who protect as well as anyone else (and who just need to be killed before they can accumulate whatever their separate win condition is). In addition, the longer we let the day run, the more time our brains have to chew on the game and the more chances the scum have to say things that will get them lynched--making there be relatively more scum kills per realtime day is not a good thing.
FOS Mr Special Ed for not caring about an early Day end
Idle, do you mean "When all PFKs are dead" or "When all PFKs and scum are dead" for the win condition?
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 17:14:26 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Dec 6, 2008 17:14:26 GMT -5
That means either all the Scum just became PFK, or all the scum are absent for whatever reason. Again, What the hell? And who is Mallow? I have received the same PM. Absolutely bizarre. Given that we: (1) can strongly suspect that there is no true Vig; (2) have already seen two "potential" power roles; and (3) have witnessed a dramatic win condition change; I think it's certain that the shape of this game is something quite different from what we're accustomed to. I'm having a pretty eventful weekend here, but I'll try to check in a bit later with a few theories. In the meanwhile, can we please not lynch mmouse too quickly? I disagree with Mr. Special Ed on the subject of an accelerated lynch being irrelevant because of the ability to talk at Night - if we kill mmouse in under a 48-real-life-hour period, then the entirety of Day Two will have taken place on a weekend. Many players may not check in at all over the weekend, and if one of them has information to share an accelerated lynch may rob them of the opportunity (why has the possibility that mmouse is a bomb of some sort so quickly been forgotten, given how eager she was to make herself lynchable?).
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 17:17:29 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Dec 6, 2008 17:17:29 GMT -5
Idle, do you mean "When all PFKs are dead" or "When all PFKs and scum are dead" for the win condition? When all PFKs (period) are dead.
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 17:19:08 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Dec 6, 2008 17:19:08 GMT -5
So based on Idle's response to zeriel, is there a possibility that this game may include no "scum" at all?
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 17:26:31 GMT -5
Post by Zeriel on Dec 6, 2008 17:26:31 GMT -5
That wasn't the answer I was expecting.
I see a few possibilities here:
1) Mario's death (as he's a major character in the color) has somehow fundamentally altered the scum team, making them all pfks. 2) Some unknown power or situation has made all the scum pfks. 3) There were no scum to begin with, just pfks of various stripes (Gastard Mod Mafia could be construed to be this, with every scum being a scum traitor (which is closer to a PFK role) IIRC) 4) Idle is fucking with us.
This is by no means an exhaustive list, but there are enough possibilities on it to make me think metagaming this turn of events will be problematic.
That having been said, we are definitely now hunting PFK in preference to hunting scum. Given that PFKs have a tendency to play like town during the Day when possible, especially early in the game (since they're trying to beat the scum, too), does anyone have any suggestions as to how to proceed?
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 17:29:35 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Dec 6, 2008 17:29:35 GMT -5
That wasn't the answer I was expecting. I see a few possibilities here: 1) Mario's death (as he's a major character in the color) has somehow fundamentally altered the scum team, making them all pfks. 2) Some unknown power or situation has made all the scum pfks. 3) There were no scum to begin with, just pfks of various stripes (Gastard Mod Mafia could be construed to be this, with every scum being a scum traitor (which is closer to a PFK role) IIRC) 4) Idle is fucking with us. This is by no means an exhaustive list, but there are enough possibilities on it to make me think metagaming this turn of events will be problematic. That having been said, we are definitely now hunting PFK in preference to hunting scum. Given that PFKs have a tendency to play like town during the Day when possible, especially early in the game (since they're trying to beat the scum, too), does anyone have any suggestions as to how to proceed? Please join HOOPY over there in the "it's a fifth option" crowd. That fact is, and will always be, public knowledge even though it's sort of meta-game-y. It is, however, nothing that would help any side in any way and nothing that would ever be easily figured out.
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 17:34:06 GMT -5
Post by MiteyMouse on Dec 6, 2008 17:34:06 GMT -5
Good DAY everyone! I all for voting for the other MMouse given our win condition but, am not ready to vote yet. I'd like to get more info first.
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 17:34:31 GMT -5
Post by special on Dec 6, 2008 17:34:31 GMT -5
That means either all the Scum just became PFK, or all the scum are absent for whatever reason. Again, What the hell? And who is Mallow? I have received the same PM. Absolutely bizarre. Given that we: (1) can strongly suspect that there is no true Vig; (2) have already seen two "potential" power roles; and (3) have witnessed a dramatic win condition change; I think it's certain that the shape of this game is something quite different from what we're accustomed to. I'm having a pretty eventful weekend here, but I'll try to check in a bit later with a few theories. In the meanwhile, can we please not lynch mmouse too quickly? I disagree with Mr. Special Ed on the subject of an accelerated lynch being irrelevant because of the ability to talk at Night - if we kill mmouse in under a 48-real-life-hour period, then the entirety of Day Two will have taken place on a weekend. Many players may not check in at all over the weekend, and if one of them has information to share an accelerated lynch may rob them of the opportunity (why has the possibility that mmouse is a bomb of some sort so quickly been forgotten, given how eager she was to make herself lynchable?). OK, I see the point story and zerial have made about not ending the Day early. I'm confused as to the potential absence of Scum. Is it possible that mmouse didn't know of the changing win condition before claiming? or was just confused in general? Is it possible that there still are Scum? and their win condition is to now outnumber Town before all PFK's are dead? Are the PFKs in any way aligned/aware of each other? I'm leaving my vote on mmouse for the time being. We're in no real danger of a quick lynch, and I don't want to see an vote advantage go another way for Scum or PFK. It's obvious we want mmouse out at some point, but we can continue discussing this.
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 17:36:10 GMT -5
Post by special on Dec 6, 2008 17:36:10 GMT -5
Could our win condition change daily as well?
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 17:44:49 GMT -5
Post by sinjin on Dec 6, 2008 17:44:49 GMT -5
and the obvious flies over my head again.
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 17:56:57 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Dec 6, 2008 17:56:57 GMT -5
Ok. I think a mmousenumber lynch would be very bad. This is a person that has helped design and contribute to the "color" of other games. HTF does the PFK statement just come out of nowhere.
And even if believed on the surface there ain't no way in hell that she/he is the only one.
Idle is a good guy that sucks your drinks all night and then when you are passed out runs off with your wallet and runs up a bunch of 1-900 charges.
Probably calling She-Males R Us. Have you seen those suckers? Racks like Pam Anderson and schlongs like Ron Jeremy.
I can definitely see Idle herding us down a demented path. So no way mmousenumber gets a vote for now.
Mod question: can we mutiny and put someone more responsible in charge?
I'll willingly take on this tremendous weight. So if Idle will just PM me the roles and players we should be good to continue.
ABTW we should keep looking for scum because Lord knows there is the possibility (probability) that the town win condition changes again.
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