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Post by Total Ullz on Dec 7, 2008 7:47:57 GMT -5
And why did Idle post the change of the win condition in the VANILLA PM-thread???
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Post by peekercpa on Dec 7, 2008 7:55:50 GMT -5
Mod question: Can PFKs (assuming multiples) communicate between themselves outside of the main thread?
Just a phuquing yes or no will do.
So solly, story it looks like most Mod questions will be threaded as opposed to PM.
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Post by Total Ullz on Dec 7, 2008 8:01:14 GMT -5
And why did Idle post the change of the win condition in the VANILLA PM-thread??? FCOD: Did you get a change in win condition??
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Post by Nanook on Dec 7, 2008 9:47:37 GMT -5
Also, Story intimated a PM regarding the town win change condition. Did anyone else receive something similar? <FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 12px">And why did Idle post the change of the win condition in the VANILLA PM-thread??? This sounds like the two of you DIDN'T get the PM stating the change of win condition. Is this the case?
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Day Two
Dec 7, 2008 10:33:16 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Dec 7, 2008 10:33:16 GMT -5
Nanook Did you get a PM about the changed town win condition?
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Day Two
Dec 7, 2008 10:41:58 GMT -5
Post by Nanook on Dec 7, 2008 10:41:58 GMT -5
Nanook Did you get a PM about the changed town win condition? Yes I did. That doesn't answer my question however, and makes me suspicious of you.
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Day Two
Dec 7, 2008 11:19:52 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Dec 7, 2008 11:19:52 GMT -5
FoS SpEd
Night lynch? Seriously?
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Day Two
Dec 7, 2008 11:29:33 GMT -5
Post by special on Dec 7, 2008 11:29:33 GMT -5
FoS SpEdNight lynch? Seriously? oh please. So I got it wrong. You know I'm not one to edit my thoughts or re-read my posts.
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Day Two
Dec 7, 2008 11:32:25 GMT -5
Post by Høøpy Frøød on Dec 7, 2008 11:32:25 GMT -5
mmouse needs to do a full claim now. For both our sake and hers. She is no doubt going to be the lynchee toDay if she doesn't. After all, as it stands now, we can't win unless she's dead. It's very possible that you may find someone with a more dangerous (to town) Night Action than mine, as I have no night action. Than who/what are you? What can you do? Why should we keep you alive when our win condition states we have to kill you? You are doing yourself no favors by not full claiming. I don't necessarily think that she threw herself under the bus. Keep in mind, when she said that the town win condition mentioned nothing about PFKs, and anyway jesters never act like you'd expect them to. See T2* for a prime example. I'm still on board with the mmouse lynch, and I as well am somewhat suspicious of Mr. Ed's willingness. I think, given the timeline of Idle Thoughts' tauntings, either the change of the win condition was mod-based, or whoever changed it had a day action. Since day actions are rare, I'm going to look very suspiciously at anyone who claims to have caused the storm. (Except Idle, if he wants to explain himself that's cool) OK, that's a train of thought I didn't have. I assumed the change was mod-based. You think it may have been caused by a Day action in Day 1? He said in the color that Mallow changed the win condition. Why would you assume that it's mod based? As soon as I received the info, my first thought was Mallow was one of the players. It fit with why Idle was taunting me the way he was yesterDay. Either Mallow had a Day action and had already submitted it, or Mallow had only one power and Idle new it was going to go off anyway. Also, Story intimated a PM regarding the town win change condition. Did anyone else receive something similar? I did. Did you? Why do you ask without volunteering the information on whether or not you did? This sucks they got MARIO. That must of be some guess the SCUM did. Never saw that one coming. So sorry to see you go Merestil Haye. I highly doubt the scum knew who Mario was on only Night 1. They probably killed MHaye as a player, not MHaye as a role. It's highly unlikely that Idle made a slip and revealed that there multiple PFK's in that posting. It's reasonable to assume that there is more than one PFK in this game because this game has a large number of players. But mods will typically use the plural for all groups, whether or not those groups have multiple members or not. Why? Because it gives nothing away to adopt that as a standard. So safely assume that there's multiple PFK just because it's likely. Don't assume it because of some wording in a PM/Publicly available post.
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Day Two
Dec 7, 2008 11:36:28 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Dec 7, 2008 11:36:28 GMT -5
Also, Story intimated a PM regarding the town win change condition. Did anyone else receive something similar? <FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 12px">And why did Idle post the change of the win condition in the VANILLA PM-thread??? This sounds like the two of you DIDN'T get the PM stating the change of win condition. Is this the case? No - I did get one. I just had a thought about the PMs and wanted to see if I got it right. But I guess I didn't
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Day Two
Dec 7, 2008 11:37:49 GMT -5
Post by special on Dec 7, 2008 11:37:49 GMT -5
Høøpy Frøød My first thought was that it was just color. I skimmed a few of the other games here, and I've seen Mods that had names, and did things using their name. Once it came up for discussion, I saw how it looks more like a player action now, but, honestly, I didn't think of that at first. I'm still not convinced it was a player action, but I do see it as a good possibility.
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Day Two
Dec 7, 2008 11:49:48 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Dec 7, 2008 11:49:48 GMT -5
FoS SpEdNight lynch? Seriously? oh please. So I got it wrong. You know I'm not one to edit my thoughts or re-read my posts. Right, except that a lynch is voted for by the town, and the scum's Night kill is voted for by the scum. We've caught scum before because they referred to the Night kill as a lynch. Of course, since we're hunting PFK and not scum now, it only deserves a FoS to be noted for later.
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Day Two
Dec 7, 2008 12:24:34 GMT -5
Post by special on Dec 7, 2008 12:24:34 GMT -5
oh please. So I got it wrong. You know I'm not one to edit my thoughts or re-read my posts. Right, except that a lynch is voted for by the town, and the scum's Night kill is voted for by the scum. We've caught scum before because they referred to the Night kill as a lynch. Of course, since we're hunting PFK and not scum now, it only deserves a FoS to be noted for later. Fair enough, I shan't make that mistake again. Oh, who am I kidding? I mis-speak(type) all the time
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Day Two
Dec 7, 2008 13:33:43 GMT -5
Post by Almost Human on Dec 7, 2008 13:33:43 GMT -5
Another reason MHaye may have been NKd could be because of his post at the end of Day 1: I'm now in a cleft stick.
If I say who I had a nasty thought about, I'm possibly smudging someone without evidence. If I don't however, I'll risk the "Magic Bag" treatment - getting killed because I hinted at a revelation.
One of the interactions between Bufftabby and Storyteller Today has Bufftabby claiming that Storyteller was trying to suppress discussion of a subject. I wanted to research this before posting, but don't have time now.
This caught at my attention because Storyteller, as Town, has refused to accept demands that he abandon a particular topic of discussion.
If it's true, Storyteller has been behaving atypically. If not, on the other hand, Bufftabby would appear to have smudged Storyteller.
I'll have time to research it Overnight.
In the interim, I did not like the way Total Lost made a kneejerk vote on MMouse.
Vote Total Lost
That gives me two topics to follow up Tonight. It would make a good case against story for the scum (or town for that matter) to use toDay. Mhaye didn't actually make a post in the Night thread about this till two and a half hours before Day 2 started so, although I can only guess, I'd have thought there was a fair chance that the scum/pfk/fiery assed pumpkin or whoever's NK choice would have already been submitted by then (or any other possible killing choices that we may have) The post he made basically said that after a reread he concluded that story wasn't trying to stifle discussion as he'd originally thought. If they DID kill MHaye in order to promote a story lynch I'd imagine his post seriously pissed them off....which is nice
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Day Two
Dec 7, 2008 13:44:27 GMT -5
Post by Almost Human on Dec 7, 2008 13:44:27 GMT -5
Brain not working right now. Thus I am going to take a page from peeker's book and post in stream-of-consciousness.
I will be kind of flakey probably until at least Finals are over - passing classes is a little bit more important than playing mafia, sorry. (To be specific, I am NOT able to connect to the site, PERIOD, on Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Fridays; the other days of the week I'm usually not awake before 10 am.)
Floating notes: *Almost Human seemed to express a little bit of Perfect Information System with regards to FCoD's soft claim - has there been any follow up since storyteller poked at him? *Peekercpa still reads weird, and he hasn't improved at all. Why is he cluttering up the thread with apparently random statements? *Is it just me or did the bandwagon against bufftabby pile up really fast? (I'm not certain of bufftabby's alignment yet, mind you, but it still stinks of opportunism.) I didn't bring this up yesterDay because it would've probably been lost in the buffacle (sorry) DBI I can't really respond to that because I think you've misread the exchange. Follow up to what? In what way do you think I showed PIS. You then make a general grumble about the peek - other people do it from time to time so it's pretty safe. Then a disingenuous-sounding "Is it just me or did the bandwagon against buffy pile up really fast?" I dunno - in my last game on here I was scum and I remember NAF saying I sounded "squirmy". I'm getting that from you right now. Not going to take it any further as yet because I do understand this could be down to exams etc so it's on the back burner for now till you've had a chance to participate more.
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Day Two
Dec 7, 2008 13:47:56 GMT -5
Post by Almost Human on Dec 7, 2008 13:47:56 GMT -5
Ok I'll try to help.
? Can be a variable letter
#### is a number that is not specified
xxxx can be just about anything - it's what us techs call a wildcard
abcd are the first four letters of the American alphabet
b c d and e are bra sizes.
8 9 10 and 11 are shu sizes,
After this we need to enlist the experts. (bolding mine) Seriously? I thought you Americans were all 'bigger and better'. I won't be shopping in your lingerie stores if that's all you got!
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Day Two
Dec 7, 2008 13:59:19 GMT -5
Post by Almost Human on Dec 7, 2008 13:59:19 GMT -5
Re the MMouse thing and the win condition thing and the Special Ed thing (look - no words ending in acle)
MMouse right now is where my vote would go but she really really should spell out her role and win condition. By doing so she may last another Day if it's useful to town and if one of the theories is correct - that the win condition may change again - then she may even last considerably longer than that by claiming.
And now I've just had another thought which may well be bollocks. Is it possible that she is in fact the only pfk - her power was to change the win condition toDay - and she wins if we lynch her.
Anyway, I'm not sure what to make of the new win condition right now - we'll probably have a better idea by toMorrow once we know if it stays the same or not.
I was going to suggest that the scum and pfks could be one and the same but their roles were interchangeable ie scum one Day and pfk the next. But I guess that doesn't make sense as MMouse claimed pfk yesterDay when the win condition was to eliminate the scum. Unless she knew she'd be pfk toDay and that's why she revealed.
Am I making ANY sense?
Sorry - I haven't actually slept since Friday night so I'm not entirely with it. On the plus side I had a damn good weekend! ;D
Almost forgot - re Special Ed. I don't think much to his calling it a night lynch because he does often misspeak himself. I am however suspicious of him not minding about ending the Day early. Yes, I know we can talk strategy at Night but let's face it, we don't really do so in the same way as during the Day.
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Day Two
Dec 7, 2008 14:11:16 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Dec 7, 2008 14:11:16 GMT -5
Mod question: Can PFKs (assuming multiples) communicate between themselves outside of the main thread?Just a phuquing yes or no will do. So solly, story it looks like most Mod questions will be threaded as opposed to PM. You'd love me to tell you, wouldn't you?
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Day Two
Dec 7, 2008 14:12:48 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Dec 7, 2008 14:12:48 GMT -5
mmouse - 4 votes (Santo, total lost, Mr Special Ed, Cookies)
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Day Two
Dec 7, 2008 14:24:35 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Dec 7, 2008 14:24:35 GMT -5
Mod question: Can PFKs (assuming multiples) communicate between themselves outside of the main thread?Just a phuquing yes or no will do. So solly, story it looks like most Mod questions will be threaded as opposed to PM. You'd love me to tell you, wouldn't you? Yes.
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Day Two
Dec 7, 2008 14:26:04 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Dec 7, 2008 14:26:04 GMT -5
That's what I had thought.
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Day Two
Dec 7, 2008 14:26:31 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Dec 7, 2008 14:26:31 GMT -5
MMouse right now is where my vote would go but she really really should spell out her role and win condition. By doing so she may last another Day if it's useful to town and if one of the theories is correct - that the win condition may change again - then she may even last considerably longer than that by claiming. And now I've just had another thought which may well be bollocks. Is it possible that she is in fact the only pfk - her power was to change the win condition toDay - and she wins if we lynch her. I have been going back and forth on MM9799 and the "claim" as a "I don't understand this game and I'm just a PFK". She seems to have read A LOT of the games - and I have forgotten it over and over again - but why would she say that she hope no one has a role like "Rugger in Batman"?? What was Rugger in that game? Anyway, I'm not sure what to make of the new win condition right now - we'll probably have a better idea by toMorrow once we know if it stays the same or not. I was going to suggest that the scum and pfks could be one and the same but their roles were interchangeable ie scum one Day and pfk the next. But I guess that doesn't make sense as MMouse claimed pfk yesterDay when the win condition was to eliminate the scum. Unless she knew she'd be pfk toDay and that's why she revealed. Am I making ANY sense? I'm so trying really hard not to give you a cheeky answer... guess I didn't quit make it But you might ne on to something - I never played these games so i don't know: But maybe MM9799s claim in itself made her into something other then a PFKs... Anyway: I don't mind the lynch og MM9799 right now - but it seems very risky to Town and therfore we should agree on it before it happens... so for now (and only to prevent an early MM9799-lynch) I'll UNVOTE MM9799
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Day Two
Dec 7, 2008 14:35:42 GMT -5
Post by Chucara on Dec 7, 2008 14:35:42 GMT -5
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Idle mention something about that everything would be clear well before night actions were submitted?
Meh, I don't know, but I'm pretty confused by it.
Anyway, I can support the mouse lynch, but I would like to see a role PM before casting my vote. And I don't think we should end the day early in case something else might pop up.
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Day Two
Dec 7, 2008 14:41:18 GMT -5
Post by Death By Irony on Dec 7, 2008 14:41:18 GMT -5
Almost Human, what twigged my Paranoia Meter (tm) was the following: Because it seemed to me that a town FCOD was jumping on a possible scum molefan slip. You also earlier speculated on why MHaye got offed; in my opinion, it's not a very useful train of thought since the only ones who know for sure are scum (and obviously they're not going to share), and furthermore, I've found it to be a fairly good indicator of scum. FoS Almost Human
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Day Two
Dec 7, 2008 14:41:52 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Dec 7, 2008 14:41:52 GMT -5
Ok, Win condition has changed. Why the eff do we care about our claimed PFK's win condition or color? We have to kill all of the PFKs to win. Shit Mmousenumber could be handing out candy canes for all I care. Can we at least try try to hit another PFK or scum.
I know that our great and illustrious Mod is all into some deviant behavior but FCS are we merely puppets for his sick and twisted scenarios?
Jesu Christo, let's concentrate gang.
Vote NAF
He piggybacked on story's case against buff without anything really original other than I agree. Opportunistic son of a gun.
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Day Two
Dec 7, 2008 14:46:45 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Dec 7, 2008 14:46:45 GMT -5
mmouse - 3 votes (Santo, Mr Special Ed, Cookies) NAF - 1 vote (peekercpa)
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Day Two
Dec 7, 2008 14:57:45 GMT -5
Post by Trepa Mayfield on Dec 7, 2008 14:57:45 GMT -5
What was Rugger in that game? In Batman, Rugger was the Joker. In order to use his daykill power, he had to post more than his target, and his targets were almost always talkative. Meaning that he inflated the post count. A lot. Mmouse means that she hopes there aren't players that have a stake in a high post day, since it's already hard enough to follow along with the current rate. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Idle mention something about that everything would be clear well before night actions were submitted? Yes, he did mention it during the day, which means either the cause was: -Mod imposed -An involuntary player action -A day action by a player I'm wondering why we weren't allowed to talk about the PM until Day 2 had started. Why would it have influenced night actions? Presumably, some people didn't get the PM, or it wouldn't have mattered if we mentioned it at night.
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Day Two
Dec 7, 2008 16:32:52 GMT -5
Post by Høøpy Frøød on Dec 7, 2008 16:32:52 GMT -5
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Idle mention something about that everything would be clear well before night actions were submitted? Yes, he did mention it during the day, which means either the cause was: -Mod imposed -An involuntary player action -A day action by a player I'm wondering why we weren't allowed to talk about the PM until Day 2 had started. Why would it have influenced night actions? Presumably, some people didn't get the PM, or it wouldn't have mattered if we mentioned it at night. Although, he didn't say that we would find out before night actions were submitted. He said we'd know at the beginning of Day 2. But I agree with you that there wouldn't have been the restriction to not discuss it until Day 2 if everyone had gotten the new win condition before the Day started. It was probably only town that got it, since it overrides our original win condition as listed in our PMs. It doesn't change the win condition for scum or PFK.
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Day Two
Dec 7, 2008 17:03:21 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Dec 7, 2008 17:03:21 GMT -5
Boozahol finally died from extreme coldness The snow and ice pellets came down more than ever. Everything around the players frozen and they all stood in a circle, hudding close and continuing the witch hunt.
But as it turned out, another player came out from the blizzard and stepped up to the group. "Hi," he said, "I'm here to replace Boozahol." ---------------------------------------------------------------
Rysto has been subbed in for Boozahol
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Day Two
Dec 7, 2008 17:18:36 GMT -5
Post by Death By Irony on Dec 7, 2008 17:18:36 GMT -5
(OOG) Hey, Rysto. Welcome to the crazy.
Mmouse, please start responding to the game. I know you feel intimidated, but the longer you stay quiet the harder you're making things for yourself. It would suck tremendously for you to be subbed out, especially since whomever's taking your place. (Yes, we're more likely than not aiming to hang you high, but at least go out swinging!)
(/OOG)
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