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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 18:11:50 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Dec 6, 2008 18:11:50 GMT -5
You wish, Peeker.
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 18:35:45 GMT -5
Post by MiteyMouse on Dec 6, 2008 18:35:45 GMT -5
Could our win condition change daily as well? I was wondering that myself. Should be interesting to see. I'm wondering as well if the SCUM are now under the same win condition as the us.
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 18:40:41 GMT -5
Post by special on Dec 6, 2008 18:40:41 GMT -5
Could our win condition change daily as well? I was wondering that myself. Should be interesting to see. I'm wondering as well if the SCUM are now under the same win condition as the us. That might fit in somewhat with the Mario Universe. Very early DK and Mario were enemies, but later they did work cooperatively. In the Mario Cart and Mario Party games, they could work cooperatively. But maybe each Day the win condition will be aligned with a different game. Oh who knows.
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 20:35:00 GMT -5
Post by mmouse9799 on Dec 6, 2008 20:35:00 GMT -5
Ok. I think a mmousenumber lynch would be very bad. This is a person that has helped design and contribute to the "color" of other games. HTF does the PFK statement just come out of nowhere. And even if believed on the surface there ain't no way in hell that she/he is the only one. Idle is a good guy that sucks your drinks all night and then when you are passed out runs off with your wallet and runs up a bunch of 1-900 charges. Probably calling She-Males R Us. Have you seen those suckers? Racks like Pam Anderson and schlongs like Ron Jeremy. I can definitely see Idle herding us down a demented path. So no way mmousenumber gets a vote for now. Mod question: can we mutiny and put someone more responsible in charge?I'll willingly take on this tremendous weight. So if Idle will just PM me the roles and players we should be good to continue. ABTW we should keep looking for scum because Lord knows there is the possibility (probability) that the town win condition changes again. Couple of questions: *What does contributing to role development and color for ONE other game have to do with anything? *What does HTF mean? This is a new one to me.
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 20:36:38 GMT -5
Post by Gir! on Dec 6, 2008 20:36:38 GMT -5
Um guys, maybe, we should be careful not to end the day before it starts. Since we can talk strategy at Night, and Scum can talk during the Day. I see no real difference between Night and Day aside from the voting. Well, there's the whole deal of Night Actions at Night, you know. And we might come across someone with a Night Action that is potentially more harmful to Town than whatever mmouse's turns out to be if we prolong the discussion, and decide to take them out of the picture before her. Or even someone whose potential play strategy would be more harmful to Town, regardless of their Night Action. There were actually no "lynches" Night 1. There was, however, one Nightkill. Or that mhaye could have been double-targeted. Or that someone with an optional Nightkill could have chosen not to kill. Or that someone with a Nightkill could have been blocked. Or that someone who was targeted could have been protected. Or that someone who was targeted could have Nightkill resistance. Or that someone who was targeted can hide. Or possible other scenarios that I didn't think of off the top of my head. Don't assume. You know what happens when you assume... Let's see mmouse's full claim before we decide whether to lynch her or not. Hell, let's give this a shot: Hey, any scum feel like taking a risk, outing themselves, and letting us know if their win condition changed toDay, too?
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 20:38:36 GMT -5
Post by Gir! on Dec 6, 2008 20:38:36 GMT -5
*What does HTF mean? This is a new one to me. I'm guessing "How The Fuck".
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 20:51:03 GMT -5
Post by mmouse9799 on Dec 6, 2008 20:51:03 GMT -5
Well, there's the whole deal of Night Actions at Night, you know. And we might come across someone with a Night Action that is potentially more harmful to Town than whatever mmouse's turns out to be if we prolong the discussion, and decide to take them out of the picture before her. Or even someone whose potential play strategy would be more harmful to Town, regardless of their Night Action. It's very possible that you may find someone with a more dangerous (to town) Night Action than mine, as I have no night action.
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 21:05:32 GMT -5
Post by special on Dec 6, 2008 21:05:32 GMT -5
Since we can talk strategy at Night, and Scum can talk during the Day. I see no real difference between Night and Day aside from the voting. Well, there's the whole deal of Night Actions at Night, you know. And we might come across someone with a Night Action that is potentially more harmful to Town than whatever mmouse's turns out to be if we prolong the discussion, and decide to take them out of the picture before her. Or even someone whose potential play strategy would be more harmful to Town, regardless of their Night Action. There were actually no "lynches" Night 1. There was, however, one Nightkill. Or that mhaye could have been double-targeted. Or that someone with an optional Nightkill could have chosen not to kill. Or that someone with a Nightkill could have been blocked. Or that someone who was targeted could have been protected. Or that someone who was targeted could have Nightkill resistance. Or that someone who was targeted can hide. Or possible other scenarios that I didn't think of off the top of my head. Don't assume. You know what happens when you assume... Let's see mmouse's full claim before we decide whether to lynch her or not. Hell, let's give this a shot: Hey, any scum feel like taking a risk, outing themselves, and letting us know if their win condition changed toDay, too? True, I misstated when I said only 1 lynch at night. You're correct. it was some sort of Night Kill. Also, it's best not to assume only 1 scum group, but it seems likely at this point. There are too many options as to what happened last night to list all of them. I'm not encouraging a rush to lynch mmouse but barring a mis-step by scum or another PFK, I'm not willing to change my vote. I think it's far better to attempt to kill a PFK we know must die than to take a less certain step and potentially lynch a useful Town member toDay. I think a few votes on mmouse right now is a good thing. And, as to the difference between Night and Day. ToDay will end with our deciding on a lynch, and Night actions are coming after that. The same series of events will occur regardless of how long it takes us to decide on a lynch target. While I'm in agreement that it's probably good to discuss and look for clues and slips, I'm also aware that it's just as likely a town member will say something suspicious and Scum or PFK might be able to build a bandwagon toward lynching them today. It's also true that by delaying Night, we're giving Scum and PFKs more of a chance to plan a strategy for how to handle this Day. In the meantime, let's talk, but keep in mind, we have a perfectly fine lynch target already. Let's not lose sight of that.
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Dec 6, 2008 21:09:27 GMT -5
Post by Death By Irony on Dec 6, 2008 21:09:27 GMT -5
First of all, mmouse needs to claim ASAP. (Personally, I'm very very torn, because as I've mentioned even if she might be telling the truth about being a PFK, we have no guarantee that she won't lie her face off to avoid being lynched; on the other, having been in the world's worst PFK role myself as Catwoman in Batman - yes, still bitter about that one ;D - I'm inclined to let mmouse live for now.) Only 1 lynch in Night 1. That indicates that we most likely have 1 Scum group. Now, I might be reading too much into that, but could the use of "lynch" be a scum slip? FoS Mr. Special Ed
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 21:10:21 GMT -5
Post by Zeriel on Dec 6, 2008 21:10:21 GMT -5
Also, it's best not to assume only 1 scum group, but it seems likely at this point. There are too many options as to what happened last night to list all of them. Somewhat disingenuous to not even try, though. Some dispute there, she's a good target but it depends on her night action/day action as to whether it's better for us to kill her now or later. Which is a fascinating metagame discussion but admittedly the only thing we can do is speculate. Unless she's a bomb or jester. I mean, that's some SERIOUS throwing herself in front of the bus she did.
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 21:12:13 GMT -5
Post by sinjin on Dec 6, 2008 21:12:13 GMT -5
Is it possible that mmouse didn't know of the changing win condition before claiming? or was just confused in general? This question leads to so many questions. Three to begin with Mr. Ed: 1) Did you know of the changing win condition before mmouse claimed? 2) Is that why you were not confused, "in general?" 3) Is that why you want the day to end early?
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 21:20:04 GMT -5
Post by special on Dec 6, 2008 21:20:04 GMT -5
Is it possible that mmouse didn't know of the changing win condition before claiming? or was just confused in general? This question leads to so many questions. Three to begin with Mr. Ed: 1) Did you know of the changing win condition before mmouse claimed? 2) Is that why you were not confused, "in general?" 3) Is that why you want the day to end early? I haven't quite figured out how to splice myself into a quote yet. 1) No, I didn't know of the changing win condition beforehand. But, it doesn't impact me as strongly. I'm not a claimed PFK. When mmouse claimed, our win condition was given as eliminating scum. I would have to assume she didn't know our goal was going to change to eliminating PFKs. 2) I was confused, yes, read my posts, but again, I hadn't claimed PFK. 3) I don't necessarily want to end the Day early. I just want to be sure we don't get distracted. I have no idea how many Scum we may or may not have, and how many PFKs we have. If there are a lot of Scum/PFKs, then I'm sure they might want to still lynch Town. It could be that they're all aligned in a larger group that includes normal Scum, and PFKs who don't share the Scum thread, but share a Scum objective. There is too much that's unknown. Please don't think when I throw one idea out there, that I'm stating it's the only possibility. I'm just trying to throw some ideas out there. I realize the actual possibilities are endless, but I also realize I need to act on what seems most likely.
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 21:49:52 GMT -5
Post by Trepa Mayfield on Dec 6, 2008 21:49:52 GMT -5
Unless she's a bomb or jester. I mean, that's some SERIOUS throwing herself in front of the bus she did. I don't necessarily think that she threw herself under the bus. Keep in mind, when she said that the town win condition mentioned nothing about PFKs, and anyway jesters never act like you'd expect them to. See T2* for a prime example. I'm still on board with the mmouse lynch, and I as well am somewhat suspicious of Mr. Ed's willingness. I think, given the timeline of Idle Thoughts' tauntings, either the change of the win condition was mod-based, or whoever changed it had a day action. Since day actions are rare, I'm going to look very suspiciously at anyone who claims to have caused the storm. (Except Idle, if he wants to explain himself that's cool)
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 21:51:14 GMT -5
Post by Trepa Mayfield on Dec 6, 2008 21:51:14 GMT -5
*In T2, the jester was NBC. A mass claim that the town orchestrated herded all the scum into the vanilla pool (since the game was open), except NAF, who claimed to be a paranoid doc. People were all ready to lynch him, but they decided not to because they were afraid that he was the jester, so they lynched...NBC, the jester.
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 21:58:52 GMT -5
Post by sinjin on Dec 6, 2008 21:58:52 GMT -5
1) No, I didn't know of the changing win condition beforehand. But, it doesn't impact me as strongly. I'm not a claimed PFK. When mmouse claimed, our win condition was given as eliminating scum. I would have to assume she didn't know our goal was going to change to eliminating PFKs. Then why did you seem surprised that she didn't know it? No comment But this is what you said to me when I cautioned we not end the day early:
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 22:00:50 GMT -5
Post by special on Dec 6, 2008 22:00:50 GMT -5
Unless she's a bomb or jester. I mean, that's some SERIOUS throwing herself in front of the bus she did. I don't necessarily think that she threw herself under the bus. Keep in mind, when she said that the town win condition mentioned nothing about PFKs, and anyway jesters never act like you'd expect them to. See T2* for a prime example. I'm still on board with the mmouse lynch, and I as well am somewhat suspicious of Mr. Ed's willingness. I think, given the timeline of Idle Thoughts' tauntings, either the change of the win condition was mod-based, or whoever changed it had a day action. Since day actions are rare, I'm going to look very suspiciously at anyone who claims to have caused the storm. (Except Idle, if he wants to explain himself that's cool) OK, that's a train of thought I didn't have. I assumed the change was mod-based. You think it may have been caused by a Day action in Day 1? and, am I correct in saying you're OK with lynching mmouse, but you're suspicious of me for being OK with lynching mmouse?
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 22:09:18 GMT -5
Post by special on Dec 6, 2008 22:09:18 GMT -5
1) No, I didn't know of the changing win condition beforehand. But, it doesn't impact me as strongly. I'm not a claimed PFK. When mmouse claimed, our win condition was given as eliminating scum. I would have to assume she didn't know our goal was going to change to eliminating PFKs. Then why did you seem surprised that she didn't know it? No comment But this is what you said to me when I cautioned we not end the day early: I guess I was surprised that she claimed PFK in Day 1. It's a surprising move, but I haven't played any games with successful PFKs. And, It was even more surprising when our win condition changed. And, yes, I can see how you're confused by my comment about the similarity of Day and Night. I do realize that Day has Day actions and lynches. And Night has Night actions and Night Kills. That said, day WILL end at some point, and bring about Night. We can discuss things in Day or Night, but the actions will still happen. It's true a Scum or PFK might slip up during the Day if we make it longer. But a Town might also slip, Scum and PFK will have more time to plan. Power roles will have more time to perhaps slip up as well. So, yeah, there are differences between Night and Day, and I'm more than willing to let Day drag on if that's what everyone wants. But my vote stays on our only viable target for the moment. If you have a problem with that, I'd really like to know why.
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 22:14:00 GMT -5
Post by Zeriel on Dec 6, 2008 22:14:00 GMT -5
Unless she's a bomb or jester. I mean, that's some SERIOUS throwing herself in front of the bus she did. I don't necessarily think that she threw herself under the bus. Keep in mind, when she said that the town win condition mentioned nothing about PFKs, and anyway jesters never act like you'd expect them to. See T2* for a prime example. I was IN T2...not voting for NBC when he jestered. mmouse's blab is WIFOMy in just the way I'd expect a jester to be--it's nothing you could have called her all the way out for on yesterday, and if it wasn't for the victory condition change today we'd be giving it more thought than we appear to collectively be giving it.
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 22:14:14 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Dec 6, 2008 22:14:14 GMT -5
This question leads to so many questions. Three to begin with Mr. Ed: 1) Did you know of the changing win condition before mmouse claimed? 2) Is that why you were not confused, "in general?" 1) No, I didn't know of the changing win condition beforehand. But, it doesn't impact me as strongly. I'm not a claimed PFK. When mmouse claimed, our win condition was given as eliminating scum. I would have to assume she didn't know our goal was going to change to eliminating PFKs. Ok snipped and bolding is mine. Little bit of help, please. The new win condition does not affect you as "strongly" as a claimed PFK. What in the world? I was ready to move on after last night but my goodness.
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Day Two
Dec 6, 2008 22:30:06 GMT -5
Post by special on Dec 6, 2008 22:30:06 GMT -5
This question leads to so many questions. Three to begin with Mr. Ed: 1) Did you know of the changing win condition before mmouse claimed? 2) Is that why you were not confused, "in general?" 1) No, I didn't know of the changing win condition beforehand. But, it doesn't impact me as strongly. I'm not a claimed PFK. When mmouse claimed, our win condition was given as eliminating scum. I would have to assume she didn't know our goal was going to change to eliminating PFKs. Ok snipped and bolding is mine. Little bit of help, please. The new win condition does not affect you as "strongly" as a claimed PFK. What in the world? I was ready to move on after last night but my goodness. I didn't say the change in win condition doesn't impact me, but it doesn't impact me as strongly as it impacts a claimed PFK. I mean, our win condition means we must kill all PFKs...even if they are Jesters. It didn't say non-Jester, non-bomb PFKs. It just said PFKs. So, now we've got to find and lynch the PFKs instead of Scum. OK, that's a change for me. But its a much larger change for our claimed PFK. It makes her a target. I should be no more of a target than I was before, except that some people seem to think I'm odd for seeing our claimed PFK as a lynch target.
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Post by Trepa Mayfield on Dec 7, 2008 0:01:12 GMT -5
OK, that's a train of thought I didn't have. I assumed the change was mod-based. You think it may have been caused by a Day action in Day 1? I think it's highly unlikely, but possible, yes. and, am I correct in saying you're OK with lynching mmouse, but you're suspicious of me for being OK with lynching mmouse? No, you are incorrect. I am suspicious of you for being OK with starting the countdown, which would be both anti town and pro scum. (Anti town because not all the townsfolk can check in, pro scum because one of those townies (or heck, pfks) might have crucial information regarding the lynch) (like this. Imagine Ed's a scum. We've got the resident bomb online, and he's twirling his mustache. But wait! Apparently, she's been investigated! Clearly, we must start the countdown before the detective checks in) But That parenthetical is only speculation, thus why I'm voting for mmouse.
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Post by special on Dec 7, 2008 0:24:49 GMT -5
OK, that's a train of thought I didn't have. I assumed the change was mod-based. You think it may have been caused by a Day action in Day 1? I think it's highly unlikely, but possible, yes. and, am I correct in saying you're OK with lynching mmouse, but you're suspicious of me for being OK with lynching mmouse? No, you are incorrect. I am suspicious of you for being OK with starting the countdown, which would be both anti town and pro scum. (Anti town because not all the townsfolk can check in, pro scum because one of those townies (or heck, pfks) might have crucial information regarding the lynch) (like this. Imagine Ed's a scum. We've got the resident bomb online, and he's twirling his mustache. But wait! Apparently, she's been investigated! Clearly, we must start the countdown before the detective checks in) But That parenthetical is only speculation, thus why I'm voting for mmouse. OK, that makes sense. So, why don't you unvote so that we're farther away from starting a countdown?
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Post by Trepa Mayfield on Dec 7, 2008 0:54:17 GMT -5
I think it's highly unlikely, but possible, yes. No, you are incorrect. I am suspicious of you for being OK with starting the countdown, which would be both anti town and pro scum. (Anti town because not all the townsfolk can check in, pro scum because one of those townies (or heck, pfks) might have crucial information regarding the lynch) (like this. Imagine Ed's a scum. We've got the resident bomb online, and he's twirling his mustache. But wait! Apparently, she's been investigated! Clearly, we must start the countdown before the detective checks in) But That parenthetical is only speculation, thus why I'm voting for mmouse. OK, that makes sense. So, why don't you unvote so that we're farther away from starting a countdown? Unvote mmouse####...moving on.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Dec 7, 2008 0:57:30 GMT -5
Ok...what is it with the ####s in some people's posts???
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Post by peekercpa on Dec 7, 2008 1:22:47 GMT -5
Ok I'll try to help. ? Can be a variable letter #### is a number that is not specified xxxx can be just about anything - it's what us techs call a wildcard abcd are the first four letters of the American alphabet b c d and e are bra sizes. 8 9 10 and 11 are shu sizes, After this we need to enlist the experts.
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Post by Total Ullz on Dec 7, 2008 4:32:53 GMT -5
Ok I'll try to help. abcd are the first four letters of the American alphabet *lol* can we Europeana borrow the "American" alphabet?? 8 9 10 and 11 are shu sizes Not over here - we got 38, 39, 40 and so on Anyway - didn't MM7799 talk about a full claim? I would very much like to know HER win condition... did it also change when Day began? The talk about the change in the win condition being caused by a Day action is really interesting. I think it could be a Night action as well - but then again could also have been activate by MM7799s claim. I don't think we can assume that we don't have scum anymore. Just because we need to hunt PFKs now - so once again: I would really very much like to hear the win condition of MM7799!!
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Post by Total Ullz on Dec 7, 2008 5:19:02 GMT -5
I got this from wikipedia: Mallow A cloud-like creature with the power to control the weather, Mario first meets Mallow when the cloud-being was being harassed by the crocodilian thief, Croco. Finding Mallow sobbing after having a special coin stolen from him by Croco, Mario decides to aid Mallow in getting his coin back. Tracking Croco down to Bandit's Way, Mario and Mallow manage to defeat the thief and reclaim Mallow's coin. Returning to the Mushroom Kingdom, the two find it under the control of Mack, a member of the Smithy Gang. Defeating Mack, Mario and Mallow venture through Kero Sewers and, after a little trouble with the monster Belome, the two adventurers meet Mallow's grandfather, Frogfucius. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_characters_in_Super_Mario_RPG:_Legend_of_the_Seven_Stars#Mallow.............................................. The bolding is mine. I think we still got a group of scum in the game and the fact that Idle did write "Mallow has changed your win condition" does seem to indicate it was a Day/Night action preformed by a player and not - as I assumed at first - a MOD decision...
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Post by peekercpa on Dec 7, 2008 6:57:34 GMT -5
Sorry, total I tend to forget that the rest of the world just finds it hard to accept that the universe revolves around the USA. LOL
And Sanro
Hey.
My name is Joe and I work in a button factory.
The other day the boss came to me and said "Hey Joe, are you busy?"
I said no.
So he said "well then push this button with your right hand".
So I did.
Repeat using all appendages, the last being your butt. That's when the lights came on. Sorry dude but that's life with tweeners. Not quite as spicy as a Friday PM with the plugger
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Post by peekercpa on Dec 7, 2008 7:23:04 GMT -5
Ok. Tossing a lollipop.
So far we have had a couple of "potential" town power roles that have been offed. Is there a possibility that everything good that is town is going to be powered by berries and mushrooms and whatever else?
And FCS, let's not get all wanky, but if you have an item does it make sense to let it be public information?
Also, Story intimated a PM regarding the town win change condition. Did anyone else receive something similar?
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Post by shaggy on Dec 7, 2008 7:32:02 GMT -5
This sucks they got MARIO. That must of be some guess the SCUM did. Never saw that one coming. So sorry to see you go Merestil Haye. This game is certanly shaping up to be a interisting one. I got the PM as well. I am inclined to agree and vote mmouse , however I think I may hold off since we do have a week and I can not help but feel if the win condition changed then it can not be as easy as one person to win the game. Could be wrong here but since it said all PFK's, not the PFK. I am inclined to assume there is more then one. So I think I personally will be on the watch for the next few days for a possible 2nd or 3rd candidate.
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