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Post by Rysto on Dec 10, 2008 15:54:54 GMT -5
So given that I was totally wrong about the Bob-omb thing, don't bother answering those questions I posed at the end of of the Day. If I had been right I would have been suspicious of people who understood me right away without the clarifications(PIS), but as I was wrong the point is moot.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Dec 10, 2008 16:05:48 GMT -5
WTF? So, if you had been right, you would have been suspicious. But, since you weren't, you're not suspicious of those who understood you? That makes absolutely zero sense.
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Post by KidVermicious on Dec 10, 2008 16:13:23 GMT -5
WTF? So, if you had been right, you would have been suspicious. But, since you weren't, you're not suspicious of those who understood you? That makes absolutely zero sense. It makes perfect sense. If mmouse is a scum bomb, then Rysto becomes suspicious of those who understood his concerns and voted for her anyway. But she's not, so scum collusion is ruled out, and his trap has nothing but air in it.
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Post by MiteyMouse on Dec 10, 2008 16:15:52 GMT -5
Ok....I was thinking of a hurricaine. Any objections?
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Post by Santo Rugger on Dec 10, 2008 16:28:31 GMT -5
If mmouse is a scum bomb, then Rysto becomes suspicious of those who understood his concerns and voted for her anyway. But she's not, so scum collusion is ruled out, and his trap has nothing but air in it. But the scum who voted for a scum bombomb would have been putting their own lives on the line... and for what? In order to look suspicious? I don't follow.
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Post by KidVermicious on Dec 10, 2008 16:38:53 GMT -5
Ok....I was thinking of a hurricaine. Any objections? Actually, I'd prefer that you keep the weather exactly like it is, please. If the win condition changes but the weather doesn't, I'm less likely to want to lynch you Tomorrow.
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Post by KidVermicious on Dec 10, 2008 16:39:50 GMT -5
But the scum who voted for a scum bombomb would have been putting their own lives on the line... and for what? In order to look suspicious? I don't follow. Unless the bob-omb can target, in which case our hypothetical scum are in no danger at all.
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Post by Rysto on Dec 10, 2008 16:49:30 GMT -5
WTF? So, if you had been right, you would have been suspicious. But, since you weren't, you're not suspicious of those who understood you? That makes absolutely zero sense. A lot of people had trouble figuring out what on earth I was on about with that Bob-omb stuff. If I had been right, somebody who already knew about the Bob-omb role would have a much easier time connecting the dots. Perfect information syndrome. As I was wrong, the fact that some people were able to follow me was because they were able to tease my meaning out of my posts. The reason I posted the questions was to get a feel for how many people had been able to follow me. If half of you had understood me then it also wouldn't mean anything.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Dec 10, 2008 16:51:48 GMT -5
Not with our current win condition, it doesn't. Huh, Rugger and I both saw the same thing and had the same reaction. I don't think that has happened since Seekham. Pede, Hoopy, you want to talk to us a bit about not being aware of town's win condition? Uh, you want to look at the post above the one I'm responding to right now? (Yeah, you're totally right. I was totally unaware of the town win condition that even if you don't believe I received via PM was only discussed ad infinitum in the Day thread. )
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Post by The Real FCOD on Dec 10, 2008 16:54:15 GMT -5
I agree with KidV...keep the weather the way it is.
--FCOD
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Post by Santo Rugger on Dec 10, 2008 16:54:35 GMT -5
A lot of people had trouble figuring out what on earth I was on about with that Bob-omb stuff. If I had been right, somebody who already knew about the Bob-omb role would have a much easier time connecting the dots. Perfect information syndrome. As I was wrong, the fact that some people were able to follow me was because they were able to tease my meaning out of my posts. The reason I posted the questions was to get a feel for how many people had been able to follow me. If half of you had understood me then it also wouldn't mean anything. My point is: if you had been right, some people would have been able to follow you because they were able to tease your meaning out of your post. Methinks scum would have been more inclined to keep their mouths shut, instead of baring all, had that been the case.
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Post by Trepa Mayfield on Dec 10, 2008 16:57:11 GMT -5
Ok....I was thinking of a hurricaine. Any objections? Actually, I'd prefer that you keep the weather exactly like it is, please. If the win condition changes but the weather doesn't, I'm less likely to want to lynch you Tomorrow. As cool as a hurricane would sound, this plan has much more merit.
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Post by The Real FCOD on Dec 10, 2008 17:00:24 GMT -5
I totally think that tomorrow night you should make it rain coins. We'll get zillions of extra lives!
--FCOD
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Dec 10, 2008 17:02:37 GMT -5
Of course, we're assuming here she has the power to stop the weather from changing. From the way the PM's she quoted read to me, if she doesn't pick, Idle will.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Dec 10, 2008 17:07:32 GMT -5
True. But I think we do need to play the game assuming the win condition is going to change. If we have a scum in hand and no bead on a potential PFK, we should lynch the scum. The game is unplayable if the win condition is going to constantly change. Don't get me started on how mmouse was handed a win when the win condition changed, that already rankles a bit, but we don't know what tomorrow will bring and can't assume that it will be the same as toDay. Neither can we assume that it won't. We already have a PM posted that implies that the change in the weather is unavoidable. So yeah, I'm not going to assume anything at this point, but I am going to prepare for it.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Dec 10, 2008 17:13:15 GMT -5
That's what I thought the win condition read before, but there's the cookies on the lower shelves for you all. : ) Slander! Libel! Defamation! Carry on...
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Dec 10, 2008 17:14:09 GMT -5
Oh, and for some fluff, Mario Paint Thriller: www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gc-1Dq3uQQ&feature=related(No, Rugger, I'm not Manirolling--or any other type of rolling--you this time. So keep your finger away from me. Besides, I don't know where that finger's been.)
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Post by KidVermicious on Dec 10, 2008 17:14:24 GMT -5
Of course, we're assuming here she has the power to stop the weather from changing. From the way the PM's she quoted read to me, if she doesn't pick, Idle will. I read that to mean she can pick any kind of weather she wants, and if she doesn't, he'll pick one for her. I don't see anywhere that the weather has to change.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Dec 10, 2008 17:17:35 GMT -5
Color me confused at the notion that this wasn't a good lynch. Also color me confused as to the ease with which mmouse just secured at least a shared win. The only thing I can think of that would parse for a reasonable explanation is that it was an unforeseen intersection of a randomly determined win condition and mmouse's play.
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Post by sinjin on Dec 10, 2008 17:33:45 GMT -5
Let me just say this about that: Sucky role, sucky win.
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Post by shaggy on Dec 10, 2008 17:40:00 GMT -5
On one hand I am sorry to see you go mmouse but on the really big other hand, Since it is now our win condition I am glad you did in fact turn out to be a PFK. Not to worried about your winning in the end, cause all that means is as long as we keep on this right track we will be right there with you, in the winners box. The bad thing though is, that obviously since the game is not over, that means there must be atleast one more PFK.
I agree miteymouse see if you can decide not to change the weather, and then if it does anyways or anything else changes, we know for sure. However If you do take it apon your self to decide on a change in weather, for what my opinion is worth, just be vocal about what you are changing it to, your PM and the responce to the PM. Gain our trust by being honest and open about it all. Yes this can lead to the SCUM and PFK'S knowing it all too, but atleast we would learn to trust that you are not one of them, by your open and honesty.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Dec 10, 2008 17:53:53 GMT -5
Of course, we're assuming here she has the power to stop the weather from changing. From the way the PM's she quoted read to me, if she doesn't pick, Idle will. I read that to mean she can pick any kind of weather she wants, and if she doesn't, he'll pick one for her. I don't see anywhere that the weather has to change. What parts of "you have (and have always had) a secret, hidden power (that you unconciously[sic] trip)." and "You have no control over it. In fact, even if you die, it will continue to happen from the grave." do you not comprehend?
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Post by sinjin on Dec 10, 2008 17:59:49 GMT -5
Hey Idle how about a final vote count just for the record. Thanks.
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Post by sinjin on Dec 10, 2008 18:04:55 GMT -5
I agree that "Mallow" should change the weather and tell us in advance what change she is making. That would at least confirm a bit of what she's said. A couple of questions for Mallow:
1) Do you have a set list of weather conditions to pick from or can you choose any weather you want?
2) Why did you claim?
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Dec 10, 2008 18:11:44 GMT -5
Hey Idle how about a final vote count just for the record. Thanks. I don't feel like it. If you or anyone else wants, to, though, feel free. I messed them up so badly near the end there I don't want to bother right now.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Dec 10, 2008 18:12:41 GMT -5
I read that to mean she can pick any kind of weather she wants, and if she doesn't, he'll pick one for her. I don't see anywhere that the weather has to change. What parts of "you have (and have always had) a secret, hidden power (that you unconciously[sic] trip)." and "You have no control over it. In fact, even if you die, it will continue to happen from the grave." do you not comprehend? The part where that PM is supposedly talking about changing the win conditions, while we're discussing the changing of the weather.
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Post by Zeriel on Dec 10, 2008 18:14:33 GMT -5
I'm on board with "keep it at blizzard".
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Post by sinjin on Dec 10, 2008 18:17:47 GMT -5
I was under the impression that the weather and the win conditions were two separate things. Is this incorrect?
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Post by KidVermicious on Dec 10, 2008 18:23:11 GMT -5
I was under the impression that the weather and the win conditions were two separate things. Is this incorrect? It reads to me, based on the info provided by Mitey, and the Mod-confirmed weather change and win condition change, that Mitey has basically been told, "The weather is going to change, if you want to decide what to change it to, let me know. The win condition is also going to change, you have no control over it, but in the color I'm going to tie it to the weather change and tell everybody that Mallow did it." We know the win condition changed. We know the weather changed. Mitey has admitted to being able to control the weather. The question at hand, to my mind, is whether or not Mitey/Mallow is telling the truth about being unable to control the win condition as well.
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Post by peekercpa on Dec 10, 2008 18:29:19 GMT -5
I'm with Sinjin on having our proclaimed Mallow change the weather and heads up us beforehand. 'Course all this does is confirm that part of her claim. Not sure that it guarantees alignment, however.
And if we can stay away form the hurricanes that would be good. With offices up and down the gulf coast I went through enough of those this summer, thank you verry much.
Personally, I'd take a nice Spring day perfect for a picnic. Loaf of bread, jug of wine and thou don't you know.
Sinjin can bring show up and santo can look on dispiritedly.
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