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Post by Idle Thoughts on Dec 11, 2008 15:43:06 GMT -5
The snow got really cold at Night.
Suddenly there was a scream and everyone ran over to find a body lying in the deep snow. Nobody know who it was until they saw the hammer by his side.
NAF1138 AKA Hammer Brother #1, a Mason...has been killed.
Suddenly the snow stopped! Everyone was relieved until thunder started and it started raining.....tadpoles?
But it was true. It was now raining sticky, gooey tadpoles.
MALLOW HAS CHANGED THE WEATHER! MALLOW MADE IT RAIN TADPOLES!
Everyone looked at each other as it rained and ribbited around them. The game started again. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
It is now Day Three.
1. Pedescribe 2. KidV 3. Total Lost 4. MiteyMouse 5. Zeriel 6. Kat 8. Rysto 9. Storyteller 10. Chucara 11. DBI 12. peekercpa 13. sinjin 14. Hoopy Frood 15. Almost Human 16. Mr Special Ed 18. misterblockey 20. FCoD 21. Cookies 23. Nanook 24. Santo Rugger 25. Shaggy
It will take TWELVE votes on one person to lynch them automatically. OR...whoever has the MOST VOTES at the end of Day, which will be on Wednesday (one week from yesterday) at 3PM MT.
Please note: If you're not going to be here or around ON or AFTER the 17th, and you have a Night action, get it in early. This is allowed for this one time only.
Also note: New data has been added to the Vanilla Town PM stickied topic.
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Post by Total Ullz on Dec 11, 2008 15:48:58 GMT -5
So MiteyM made it rain tadpoles....
She was right - she did change the weather and I still don't see how this is aligned with the changed win condition. But we could try to ask for sunshine next time...
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Post by Santo Rugger on Dec 11, 2008 15:52:31 GMT -5
Yaknow, NAF made a comment yesterday that the game was basically unplayable if the win condition kept changing, and he woke up dead Today. I still don't see the changing of the win condition as being in any way pro-town. I find it odd that the win condition changed -and- NAF woke up dead. Err, didn't wake up.
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Post by Total Ullz on Dec 11, 2008 16:00:28 GMT -5
Yaknow, NAF made a comment yesterday that the game was basically unplayable if the win condition kept changing, and he woke up dead Today. I still don't see the changing of the win condition as being in any way pro-town. I find it odd that the win condition changed -and- NAF woke up dead. Err, didn't wake up. But we don't really know if only Town gets the change - maybe scum too get a different win condition? So it might not be pro-town... but if scum get it too it might also be anti-scum. No way to know. I don't get what you're hinting about NAF - I got it that MiteyM was told that a change in weather would not lead to anyone dying.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Dec 11, 2008 16:03:57 GMT -5
A) I don't believe anything MiteyMouse says after she admitted lying.
B) If Mitey is scum, her buddies may have wanted to silence people who did not appreciate her in the game.
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Post by Total Ullz on Dec 11, 2008 16:11:50 GMT -5
A) I don't believe anything MiteyMouse says after she admitted lying. B) If Mitey is scum, her buddies may have wanted to silence people who did not appreciate her in the game. I just felt that NAF had a really good point in the don't-judge-based-on-one-single-action and to me it seems like the vanilla-flop from MiteyM was just a textbook example of a situation like that... But I guess we are just down to me and you seeing MiteyMs actions in different ways. No need to argue about it anymore.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Dec 11, 2008 16:21:01 GMT -5
A) I didn't bring up the Vanilla-flop in my post, so I'm not arguing about it, by definition. I already plowed that one into the ground Yesterday.
B) Do you see the win condition changing in any way pro-town?
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Post by Total Ullz on Dec 11, 2008 16:24:21 GMT -5
B) Do you see the win condition changing in any way pro-town? No - not the Town win condition. But I don't know the scum/PFK-win condition... so I have no idea if that changed as well ( I guess you don't either *lol*) Why would a MOD make a Town win condition change and not the scum/PFKs?? That seems a bit unfair...
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Post by Trepa Mayfield on Dec 11, 2008 16:28:33 GMT -5
A) I don't believe anything MiteyMouse says after she admitted lying. B) If Mitey is scum, her buddies may have wanted to silence people who did not appreciate her in the game. Where has she admitted to lying? I'm going to need a cite on that one. Also, tomorrow Mitey Mouse should make it go back to blizzarding, so we can see if the weather and win cons match up 1 to 1.
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Post by NAF1138 on Dec 11, 2008 16:33:55 GMT -5
Wait, what? Damnit no one EVER NK's me. Sonofa... And before Story's game on the SDMB got started too. Bah. Ok, spoiler me up Idle!See y'all on the other side.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Dec 11, 2008 16:36:11 GMT -5
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Post by MiteyMouse on Dec 11, 2008 16:47:54 GMT -5
There we have it! Tadpoles...sticky, gooey tadpoles. And another changed win condition.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Dec 11, 2008 16:51:40 GMT -5
*sigh*
We don't have anything, other than you or one of your scum buddies being Mallow.
And you said the win condition is A) not under your control and B) happens when you die, anyway. Why even bring it up as trying to confirm you?
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Post by MiteyMouse on Dec 11, 2008 16:56:05 GMT -5
Does that not prove that I changed the weather Santo?
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Post by Chucara on Dec 11, 2008 17:00:58 GMT -5
Man, this game is confusing.. And ewww - I'll be carrying an umbrella today Anyway.. First order of business. I think a MiteyMouse lynch today would be a mistake.. I think MiteyMouse should change the weather back to what it was yesterday so we can see if there is a complete match between weather and win condition. If we can agree on that I think we should start looking elsewhere for a lynch candidate.. I don't have a strong ping from anyone currently, but I will start looking tomorrow. However, this weekend is pretty booked for me, so I won't have time to do a complete re-read. Is there anyone who thinks MiteyMouse is a good lynch candidate today?
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Post by Trepa Mayfield on Dec 11, 2008 17:03:40 GMT -5
No...but I don't think it's particularly anti-town either. It seems to me to just be a huge distraction--admittedly a shiny and cool distraction, but a distraction nontheless.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Dec 11, 2008 17:16:54 GMT -5
Does that not prove that I changed the weather Santo? I don't think anybody ever doubted that. People (or at least myself) are concerned that the two events are not separate, as you've claimed. You completely ignored my question about why you brought up the win condition changing as part of the "proof" of your powers, though. No...but I don't think it's particularly anti-town either. It seems to me to just be a huge distraction--admittedly a shiny and cool distraction, but a distraction nontheless. You really think it's shiny and cool that our win condition could theoretically change every single Day?
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Dec 11, 2008 17:18:35 GMT -5
Also, do you think the win condition constantly changing is in any way pro-town? Nope. But we don't know if she changes the scum condition and/or one or more PFK's or not, in which case if she ends up changing multiple sides' win conditions, then it's completely null as far as indicating anything. (Personally, I still think it should have rained donuts. Mmmmm...doooonutttssss.) And Idle has said this game is wacky, so a constantly changing win condition fits as being pretty wacky. I don't know why it's tied to a role when it happens even should that role die, but maybe Idle just wanted to throw in some flavor. I looked closer at the events surrounding her claim, and I'm getting a frustrated and confused townie vibe from her.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Dec 11, 2008 17:20:29 GMT -5
You really think it's shiny and cool that our win condition could theoretically change every single Day? Now that's an interesting point.
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Post by MiteyMouse on Dec 11, 2008 17:22:01 GMT -5
Does that not prove that I changed the weather Santo? I don't think anybody ever doubted that. People (or at least myself) are concerned that the two events are not separate, as you've claimed. You completely ignored my question about why you brought up the win condition changing as part of the "proof" of your powers, though. Because it was part of what I tried to explain on Day 2. We could try for the blizzard again tomorrow to see if they are not attached. I was told that I don't have control over the win conditions changing but, I was also told that I have no useful power...so I'm not a firm believer right now.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Dec 11, 2008 17:34:07 GMT -5
I was told that I don't have control over the win conditions changing... Then why are you trying to use that to confirm your townie status? I give up, I'm not going to talk about this again. Vote Mitey Mouse
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Dec 11, 2008 17:38:26 GMT -5
MiteyMouse - 1 vote (Santo Rugger)
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Post by Mister Blockey on Dec 11, 2008 17:49:30 GMT -5
I don't think we should vote MiteyMouse.
looking at this I'd guess town at least is on a semi-cyclical win condition.
A 3 day pattern, maybe more, but lets look at is a three day pattern
day 1: kill all scum day 2: kill all pfk day 3: kill all scum and pfk and then reset there may be more in there and it may be more random but could we at least contemplate that as a possibility.
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Post by Trepa Mayfield on Dec 11, 2008 17:59:18 GMT -5
I don't think we should vote MiteyMouse. looking at this I'd guess town at least is on a semi-cyclical win condition. A 3 day pattern, maybe more, but lets look at is a three day pattern day 1: kill all scum day 2: kill all pfk day 3: kill all scum and pfk and then reset there may be more in there and it may be more random but could we at least contemplate that as a possibility. Especially since Idle had indicated that we'd understand where the PFKs were on day 1. But if that's true, then why is is Mallow that changed the win cons and not Idle, and...gahh, my head is going around in circles. And it's shiny and cool because, well, have you ever seen a constantly changing win condition? Or even thought of the idea? It's innovative in a viscerally fun way, even if it is annoying.
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Post by sinjin on Dec 11, 2008 18:00:47 GMT -5
Well damn, at least you made it to day two this time NAF.
And double damn, that was not what I was expecting.
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Post by Mister Blockey on Dec 11, 2008 18:02:34 GMT -5
I think the color tied the change in the win condition to mallow for just that, color.
The other thing is we have two scenarios really:
Win conditions keep changing after Mallow dies, so we kill him and do diddly.
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Win conditions are frozen after Mallow dies, so if we kill him today we're setting in stone the least advantageous win condition to town so far.
Hence let's nay kill MiteyMouse today atleast.
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Post by Death By Irony on Dec 11, 2008 18:08:02 GMT -5
Wait, what? Damnit no one EVER NK's me. Sonofa... Actually, you did get offed on Night 1 in the LoLCats mini. ;D And as annoying as MiteyMouse's powers are, we might want to hold off killing her until we get the weather/win conditioned changed (again, sigh). Having it stuck on killing scum AND PFK would make the game that much harder.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Dec 11, 2008 18:19:57 GMT -5
Warp Pipe!!! Double-you tee eff?
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Dec 11, 2008 18:23:48 GMT -5
And I really want to know where that -1 post on the other forum came from.
Is that like some post to be named later or something there, Idle?
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Post by Trepa Mayfield on Dec 11, 2008 18:25:20 GMT -5
And I really want to know where that -1 post on the other forum came from. Is that like some post to be named later or something there, Idle? I suspect it refers to the famous "minus world" (though I am equally confused as to how it got there).
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