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Post by RoOsh on Jun 17, 2009 13:55:03 GMT -5
Oh, and Roosh, you're uncanny. It's like he's standing behind you writing that script for you. Well done. I assure you, there's no one standing behind me, Johnny Snow. There's always the promise of Daily Blogs if you don't lynch me. Other than that- I think I'm done dealing with terrorists over my life. If you want to prove me wrong and show me that humanity deserves a second chance, you're welcome to it. Otherwise, well, I'm sure you could always just name yourself after a garden tool and promote yourself into the military. Private Rake Hoe has a nice ring to it, doesn't it? I must admit- Rear Admiral Screw probably fits you better, Johnny.
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Post by sinjin on Jun 17, 2009 13:57:47 GMT -5
Sorry for the unvote with not explanation. Didn't have time to write a post. But I don't want the day to end just yet. Natlaw do you think we should claim now? If you don't want to claim I understand but I do have a follow-up question for you. Oh and sorry about the harshness of my vote post Roosh, it reads way nastier than it looked when I wrote it. And awesome blog entry. As I read it I heard NPH's voice in my head.
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Post by KidVermicious on Jun 17, 2009 13:58:46 GMT -5
Yes, that's right. It's nearly 100% of the other players in the game who have the limited viewpoint, while you are the enlightened one.
You can generate a plausible pro-town motivation for almost anything, but you can't fake effects, and the way you've played your role has done more harm to town than good. It's my opinion that we're where we are in spite of you, not because of you. We'll all know for sure once the game is over, but right now it's my opinion that the result of your actions has been proscum.
You can wave your hands and play games all day, but the fact is, if Roosh comes back 3rd party, it'll mean you almost certainly aren't, and based on the way you've played and what we've seen of your powers, you're much more likely to be Scum than Town. Especially if Total comes back Town.
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Post by KidVermicious on Jun 17, 2009 14:00:37 GMT -5
NETA - the above is for Pleo, of course.
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Post by sinjin on Jun 17, 2009 14:04:35 GMT -5
Especially if Total comes back Town. Total has already come back town.
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Post by KidVermicious on Jun 17, 2009 14:07:46 GMT -5
A quick post: an awesome farewell from Dr. Horrible, but I don't know if we should trust his win condition claim (that he wins with town if alive). I'm Johnny Snow, Town Roleblocker. I blocked Pleo Night Two, Roosh last night, and stayed quiet the other nights. I am not the cause of the votestripping. And unless somebody pops up and says they've got no vote, I think Roosh is. I don't get why you blocked Pleonast one Night, but not the others. Why Ro0sh last Night? Also we don't have special eds role PM, but he is listed a Town Weak Roleblocker. Risk/reward, mostly. I blocked Pleo because I found his play anti-town. When there was no result, I put it back in my pants. I blocked Roosh on a hunch - I can't articulate it, but I smelled something fishy in the way he was playing.
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Post by RoOsh on Jun 17, 2009 14:11:45 GMT -5
Oh and sorry about the harshness of my vote post Roosh, it reads way nastier than it looked when I wrote it. And awesome blog entry. As I read it I heard NPH's voice in my head. No offense is taken. You've got potential kid, don't squander it. I understand the ways of Villainy well. This isn't my first heist thwarted you know. I'm not upset at any of you... mostly. Other than the fact that you cruel people wish to kill me. I have an issue with that part. Can't you just hand cuff me, tie me up, keep guard over me? Honestly now- I can't be the only one horrified at how you've been dispensing justice. I mean Captain Hammer- yeah when you had him he's been an idiot about handling the lynchings. But come on now- he's gone. I even let you all use the freeze gun on Jayne to restrain him- but really the whole knifing people in the chest business. Unnecessary! Madness! Interjection! Do I even know you people? Also- please there's no need for false identities, even if this Roosh nom de plume that you all seem to fear and love so much is a great and quite AWE-inducing cover-name- please, just call me DoctorHaitch. Doctor if you're Nasty.
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Post by KidVermicious on Jun 17, 2009 14:14:45 GMT -5
Especially if Total comes back Town. Total has already come back town. Yes, yes she has.
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Post by RoOsh on Jun 17, 2009 14:16:10 GMT -5
Risk/reward, mostly. I blocked Pleo because I found his play anti-town. When there was no result, I put it back in my pants. Except that both Day 2 and 3 there were no Kills at the start of the Day. You didn't think your role blocking could have "helped" prevent that? If he was the Killer, you may have prevented his Kills. Why didn't you consider that, Parka Boy? Vote Kid Vermicious.[/color] Damn you, Johnny Snow!
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Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 17, 2009 14:20:53 GMT -5
And awesome blog entry. As I read it I heard NPH's voice in my head. Me too! I can see him acting it out! Oh yeah Roosh (3) - Pollux, KidV, Pleonast KidV (1) - Roosh --FCOD
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Post by KidVermicious on Jun 17, 2009 14:28:52 GMT -5
Risk/reward, mostly. I blocked Pleo because I found his play anti-town. When there was no result, I put it back in my pants. Except that both Day 2 and 3 there were no Kills at the start of the Day. You didn't think your role blocking could have "helped" prevent that? If he was the Killer, you may have prevented his Kills. Why didn't you consider that, Parka Boy? Vote Kid Vermicious.[/color] Damn you, Johnny Snow![/quote] No kill at the start of Day Two, and my blocking him Night Two was supposed to have something to do with that? Please. PhD in horribleness maybe, but I think you skipped logical thinking class. Oh, and also, you were confusing the fuck out of me with yer freezybeamy thing making people have no votes, I was trying to make sure that wasn't me somehow.
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Post by KidVermicious on Jun 17, 2009 14:30:48 GMT -5
l33t posting skills right there, ya'll. That's how cool I am.
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Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 17, 2009 14:38:11 GMT -5
Here, let me fix that for you.
--FCOD
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Post by KidVermicious on Jun 17, 2009 14:40:53 GMT -5
Thanks, yo. I take back half the rude things I said about you.
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Post by RoOsh on Jun 17, 2009 14:48:14 GMT -5
No kill at the start of Day Two, and my blocking him Night Two was supposed to have something to do with that? Please. PhD in horribleness maybe, but I think you skipped logical thinking class. Oh, and also, you were confusing the fuck out of me with yer freezybeamy thing making people have no votes, I was trying to make sure that wasn't me somehow. Awww... look you fell for the liddle strawman. Dance puppet, dance! Good job. Note that I pointed out Day 3 as well. Also- just how were you trying to dodge me when I was mostly targetting Dead Bowie? Paranoid much, Johnny SnowChanceInHell "I'm Townie"? I think we've already seen the Town Role Blocker turn up dead. So maybe the rest of these people should say hello to the Scum Role Blocker instead.... Makes sense, doesn't it- Scum need to protect themselves from the big bad Vigilante and the big bad DoctorHaitch, don't they? I'm thinking that maybe actions speak louder than words- and right now your "I didn't block anyone after Pleonast until you" sounds very... not the townie thing a town role blocker would do. Not even offering to quietly help block Storyteller when he was stating how he didn't want to kill? Interesting. Very Interesting.
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Post by sinjin on Jun 17, 2009 14:48:42 GMT -5
KidV, almost everyone has claimed so far, want to give us a little peak into your magic bag? You've become very vocal all of a sudden and right now I'm having a bit of a problem believing your claim.
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Post by KidVermicious on Jun 17, 2009 15:00:39 GMT -5
Sinjin, my bag was all about Roosh here, tho I didn't know it at the time. I just knew there was somebody else out there with freezy-colored powers, which is why I endorsed NAFs mass claim. If "somebody else" had to claim before me, and tried to claim Johnny Snow instead of DrH or whoever, we'd have ourselves a liar. That was all it was, slim chance of working but better than nothing, right? Roosh, if Story had gone into the Night lamenting that he had to target somebody, I woulda blocked him. But he didn't... he sounded like he had a target he was pretty happy about, so I let him do it. Do you really think that a scum roleblocker would have let him get away with that? Or would have let IS get results last night? Or are IS and I both scum? No, you're just flinging shit now, having some fun seeing what kinda trouble you can stir up. I think I'm done engaging you. Nice try, though.
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Post by BillMc on Jun 17, 2009 16:11:17 GMT -5
Apologies - due to work/travel commitments, I'm going to be awol till saturday.
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Post by RoOsh on Jun 17, 2009 17:10:15 GMT -5
Johnny, at least you can call me by proper name. And that was your magic bag? That there was someone with a Freeze Ray out there different from your so called "Ice Beam"? Tsk tsk.
Though I will give you points for the Newman issue. The fact that you haven't been using your powers though is quite silly. Maybe you were too busy KILLING instead? Insert your own dramatic music in there for me please. Thank you.
Maybe you need me Dead for YOUR own win condition, eh, Parka Boy?
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Post by KidVermicious on Jun 17, 2009 17:28:58 GMT -5
Huh. Well, why don't you and Pleo get together and go bowling, then? If you're so sure that me not using my role power is anti-Town, and he's so sure that using it is, well, sounds like the two of you need to have a chat. I'm sure we'll all be very enlightened when you're through.
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Post by Pleonast on Jun 17, 2009 18:40:13 GMT -5
Huh. Well, why don't you and Pleo get together and go bowling, then? If you're so sure that me not using my role power is anti-Town, and he's so sure that using it is, well, sounds like the two of you need to have a chat. I'm sure we'll all be very enlightened when you're through. Nice misrepresentation there. I said nothing about the use or non-use of your power. I said the power itself is anti-Town, just like a Vig's killing power is. And that doesn't mean it can't be used for the Town's benefit under special circumstances.
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Post by RoOsh on Jun 17, 2009 19:02:19 GMT -5
Well listen, I'd love to stay and chat all the while- but if you sheeple are going to kill me anyways- be fair warned- I'm going out of Town tomorrow with Groupie #2. I'll be back to check in on Saturday- but I think I can see which way the wind is blowing.
So unless there's anything else you sheeple would like to know- you've got about 12 hours before I head out. So, nyeah.
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Post by RoOsh on Jun 17, 2009 19:05:03 GMT -5
Or maybe he's Groupie #1. I don't really care. I just call him Atarus.
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Post by KidVermicious on Jun 17, 2009 20:22:28 GMT -5
Nice misrepresentation there. I said nothing about the use or non-use of your power. I said the power itself is anti-Town, just like a Vig's killing power is. And that doesn't mean it can't be used for the Town's benefit under special circumstances. I don't think it's a misreprentation at all. You're advocating my lynch based on my claimed power, which means you believe the existence of said power is anti-Town, irrespective of how I've chosen or may choose to employ it. If it's existence is anti-Town surely that's because of the potential that it may be employed, yes? Ergo, my using it is anti-Town? No, I think I represented you fairly accurately. You may not like it, but it's what you said.
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Post by Pollux Oil on Jun 17, 2009 20:36:38 GMT -5
Yeah Pleonast, you're definitely getting lynched tomorrow if the game doesn't end with Roosh's lynch.
For those possibly thinking KidV is scummy? Let's think about this. First off, Roosh is claiming to have frozen Mhaye. Mhaye, if you could please come in and vote for somebody. Anybody. Me, KidV, Pleo, sinjin, whoever, doesn't matter just demonstrate you can vote. If Mhaye's vote shows up in a vote count, hey, Roosh did not freeze Mhaye like he claimed. Thus, either Roosh tried to kill someone last night and failed (by either hitting a protected player or getting blocked by KidV) or he is what he says he is and was blocked by KidV.
If Mhaye votes and it doesn't count, KidV is a liar, we lynch all liars. Problem solved.
(Note: I know Mhaye has said that he hasn't been notified that he's bee frozen, but this is clearly a case where it can easily be proven one way or another.)
Furthermore, if KidV was scum, and had the power he says he has, why the hell wouldn't the scum have been blocking Inner Stickler this entire time?
Yeah, that's what I thought.
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Post by RoOsh on Jun 17, 2009 20:42:13 GMT -5
Why not lynch DeadBowie first toDay, and then me tomorrow?
I've pretty much put myself at the mercy of this bloodthirsty group of savages- but come on! Have some pity on the common working man- I'm so close to winning if you guys win!
At the very least, each of the people voting me can clarify if you're voting for me because you find me genuinely SCUMMY due to my ACTIONS. Or if it's because you think I'm lying about my claim. Or if you're just the lazy son of a Bee that's voting for me because you think I'm a 3rd Party Role and a "safe" lynch then at least.
Give me that much dignity of knowing the reasoning for each of the votes.
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Post by KidVermicious on Jun 17, 2009 20:54:09 GMT -5
Did you guys hear something?
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Post by Pollux Oil on Jun 17, 2009 22:04:51 GMT -5
Give me that much dignity of knowing the reasoning for each of the votes. Fine. Let's see here. First, I've already said the freeze ray no voting makes sense as a scum power. Now, with your description of canceling out the protection, that also falls under "why didn't the scum just use that to kill IS" but I'm thinking that might be an embellishment on your part just to make us think that. Second, you may say you "asked" FCOD to change the wincon. But what if you're the recruitable one? I mean, maybe you were third-party, but ended up recruited to scum? That would work as "sort of" recruitment since you weren't switching complete sides. So maybe the wincon changing was a result of you being recruited, not you asking the mod nicely. And you're one of the ones who has been saying all along that Dr. Horrible is the most likely to be a recruitable mechanism. Maybe dropping hints so the scum would know where to look? Sure it's a bit of a reach but entirely plausible. Third, your actions right now look more like a scum caught and acting out their death throes, as opposed to somebody who's genuinely trying to win with the town. Why vote for KidV, especially with what I just said about the plausibility of him being scum? Why not vote for Pleonast yourself if you're so keen on us lynching him again instead of you? This, on top of your voting actions against Nanook, make me comfortable with my vote.
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Post by sinjin on Jun 17, 2009 22:53:13 GMT -5
If MHaye really is the Dr. I think it's best for me to claim now so what we can get at least two more investigations out of IS.
Maybe this will clear up what is going on with nightkills.
I am Bait:
I have been targeting IS every night, well except for the first couple when I didn't fully understand the power of my role, doh! I thought at first I would pull the protection and leave IS open for a kill. I didn't realize I could pull both the kill and the protection at the same time.
So MHaye or whoever is the Dr. out there you chose who to protect tonight. I will again target IS. I'm expendable. I've thought since the beginning that the freeze ray leads to a delayed death if the person frozen doesn't have protection of some kind. Hence my taunting of those I considered scum in the night threads, hee. If IS turns up scum, well color me stupid. (That would be mauve for the uninitiated.)
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Post by KidVermicious on Jun 17, 2009 23:07:33 GMT -5
So, I'm hitting the road in the morning. I'll be back Sunday night at the earliest.
I wanted to crunch some numbers, but I didn't have time. Considering the lack of nightkills overall, I think it's worth comparing the total number of unclaimed (not Story) kills with how many kills scum would have had if it was a normal nightly kill. If there's a difference, it might tell us how many recruitments there have been.
If you want to assume that one recruit = 2 kills, anyway.
Why hasn't MHaye given us his list of protects, yet? I'm not ready to take him off the list of Tomorrows lynch targets yet.
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