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Post by gnarlycharlie on Mar 27, 2012 2:26:45 GMT -5
I find it fascinating and slightly alarming that both Meeko and Charlie had absolutely nothing whatsoever to say Today...until someone specifically called them out, at which point BAM there they are responding. It just reeks of lurking scum or perhaps PFK only worried about what directly relates to themselves. At this point I don't think I would object to a lynch of either of them. Also, I too find Idle's claim to be awful, and would not object to his lynch either. no one called me out toDay before i posted and voted. Lightfoot did after she was called out.
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Post by scáthach on Mar 27, 2012 4:12:46 GMT -5
Bloodshed last Night, sheesh. I still find myself coming back to finding Hal and Lightfoot the most suspicious of everyone so far....although I admit my suspicious of Hal is mostly biased due to what I believe to be hypocritical voting for me on Day One. Lightfoot is another matter, though. While we've seen the names in this game are not always linked to side (with pengiun being on the side of Batman), I still can't see how Robin ever, under any circumstances, worked with the baddies against Batman. Even Catwoman, if I remember correctly, was pro-Batman sometimes. I can see her going both ways, really. Pengiun? Less so, but wasn't there one episode where he worked with Batman? I dunno, I never saw the original show and I never read the comics, but I thought I had read something about him working with Batman one time before. Anyway, Robin on the other hand...isn't he Batman's right hand basically? Hmm - you kind of half think that once maybe you saw the Penguin working with Batman, but you're dead certain Robin has never worked against Batman? (Despite people pointing out already that there was one Robin who did in fact work against Batman)
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Post by scáthach on Mar 27, 2012 4:20:31 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind a LightFoot lynch at this point, though the information gleaned even if she does flip as scum doesn't seem as incisive as a Mahaloth lynch would be with the information we'd get about Nanook, who has also been niggling around in the back of my mind since back when we were still debating whether Nanook should try and recruit Mahaloth. With only Townie deaths last night and not very much solid information gleaned from those deaths, the burden of the unconfirmed is just growing into a heavier burden for the Town to continue to carry. Surely Nanook would be a better lynch if that's the way you're thinking? Also, what exactly is the burden of the unconfirmed?
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Post by scáthach on Mar 27, 2012 4:26:53 GMT -5
At the risk of a snuggling three-way with Pollux and SBrown, I have come to hold them both in rather Townie on my evolving list. I'll even go so far as to say that I'd be willing to let him whatever deadline he wants in counting his device down to zero, if only to hopefully benefit from his analysis for as long as possible. If you think Pollux is town, why would you be ok with him possibly killing himself?
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Post by scáthach on Mar 27, 2012 4:54:54 GMT -5
Sorry, everyone, I was posting as I caught up, hence the irritating multiposting.
Vote: ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies
She seems entirely too cavalier about killing people. Suggesting lynching Mahaloth over Pollux even though Maha has claimed a power and Pollux has not.
Wants Pollux to activate his device (incidentally Pollux, I don't really think you should), despite the fact that we don't have a clue what it does.
I don't like her continued insistence that people being "unconfirmed" is such a bad thing. In a lot of mafia games, people don't really get 100% confirmed except by lynch or NK - so it's not the huge disadvantage she seems to imply. It seems more like an excuse to lynch into the claimed pool for the dubious benefit of "confirming" the survivors.
As for other people:
Idle Thoughts: The wording of his claim is odd I agree. The powers line especially "POWERS: If targeted for Nightkill, the first time you have a 50% chance of killing your assailant via the poison you secrete." What's with the first time? It seems almost implied that Idle will die if NK'd but has a chance of taking the attacker out with him. But then, the "first time" implies he will survive. Does he have a 50% chance of survival? Then what happens? It's unclear in a way that the other role PM's haven't been. However, PizzaGuy was the first to point out flaws with Idle's claim which puts me off voting him a little. Hal Briston: Nothing has increased or decreased my suspicion for him really. Sinjin: With askthepizzaguys scum flip, I'm less likely to believe that his claimed block of her prevented the 3rd night kill. Meeko: Is still approaching the game orthogonally from me.
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Post by BillMc on Mar 27, 2012 6:36:31 GMT -5
I don't know that it's wise to assume that just because Pizza was Scum, that means everything he said was untrue. He was identified as Scum (Special), which would be consistent with a Roleblocker ability. And if he was a Scum Roleblocker, what motivation would he have had to lie about his target? I think the simplest explanation, until evidence is presented to the contrary, is that Pizza did in fact block Sinjin on Night 2. Now, it doesn't necessarily follow that Sinjin is a Killer and would have been responsible for death #3 had he not been blocked...but it's a mistake to assume that 'Scum always lie'. Agreed. I said we're no idea if ATPG with truthful - not that I was assuming everything he said was untrue. Some of what he said is undoubtedly true because if there are too many lies they will quickly unravel. He claimed to have blocked Meeko on N1 - and Meeko confirms he was blocked (Lightfoot also said she was blocked on N1), with three deaths. He claimed to have blocked Sinjin on N2 - which Sinjin does not confirm and Gadarene also claims to have been blocked, with two deaths. So for N1 and N2 we appear to have two roleblockers in play. Thus far, no one has claimed to have been blocked on N3.
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Post by BillMc on Mar 27, 2012 6:50:31 GMT -5
Bill, much like Pizza, hasn't really posted much of anything with meat on it. Where are your suspicions? Where are your accusations? I haven't really played a ton of games with you, but I am well aware of your amazing reputation as a scum hunter. But you haven't really done any of that this game. Here we go again with the reputation crap - it got boring very very quickly and one of the main reasons I stopped playing for a while. . I made my cases for Pleo, for keeping Drain, for ATPG and expressed suspicion of others. I suggested the possibility that Pollux may have planted the device on himself, something which he dismissed as a smudge, but now makes the same suggestion of SBrown. As previously stated, Idle's claim stinks. I don't particularly like posting suspicion lists as it gives the scum something to latch onto to build bandwagons on other folk Your major contribution has been to decide that Mahaloth was more valuable that Drain - a decision which I disagree with. Your decision has put us in the position where we cannot trust or verify a third party - so we have to waste a lynch on them; and since they will be lynched, it is more in their own interest now to support the scum than town. Plus you like to keep talking about how we can't trust Mahaloth if I were to die, because we don't know if he would stay Town is he was NK'd. The line from Mahaloth's PM is there to clearly and unequivocally state that he is not a Scotsman, but he is bulletproof. Having his recruitment wear off after a NK attempt is pure unadulterated Bastard, to both him and the person/side that recruited him. I have to claim utter bullsh*t on the underlined - I said nothing about your death confirming or unconfirming Mahaloth. You keep stating that Mahaoloth's PM is unequivocal -- but it does state that his alignment will be revealed upon death but not upon resurrection. Sorry - that is not unequivocal proof that he would not revert back to third party upon resurrection. You can yell bastard mod all you like, just look at Pleo's powers - a good pinch of gastardlyness there if you didn't know the mechanic behind them. If you want to consider it absolute proof, then fine, that's your choice. As for me, I'll consider it proven if/when it actually happens. The only reputations I trust belong to the folk that are dead - and remain dead.
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Post by Hal Briston on Mar 27, 2012 8:38:58 GMT -5
Idle Thoughts: The wording of his claim is odd I agree. The powers line especially "POWERS: If targeted for Nightkill, the first time you have a 50% chance of killing your assailant via the poison you secrete." What's with the first time? It seems almost implied that Idle will die if NK'd but has a chance of taking the attacker out with him. But then, the "first time" implies he will survive. Does he have a 50% chance of survival? Then what happens? It's unclear in a way that the other role PM's haven't been. Just a WAG, but perhaps that means "If you are targeted for nightkilling by multiple people, you have a 50% of killing the first one that targeted you".
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Post by BillMc on Mar 27, 2012 8:38:58 GMT -5
I don't know that it's wise to assume that just because Pizza was Scum, that means everything he said was untrue. He was identified as Scum (Special), which would be consistent with a Roleblocker ability. And if he was a Scum Roleblocker, what motivation would he have had to lie about his target? I think the simplest explanation, until evidence is presented to the contrary, is that Pizza did in fact block Sinjin on Night 2. Now, it doesn't necessarily follow that Sinjin is a Killer and would have been responsible for death #3 had he not been blocked...but it's a mistake to assume that 'Scum always lie'. Agreed. I said we're no idea if ATPG with truthful - not that I was assuming everything he said was untrue. Some of what he said is undoubtedly true because if there are too many lies they will quickly unravel. He claimed to have blocked Meeko on N1 - and Meeko confirms he was blocked (Lightfoot also said she was blocked on N1), with three deaths. He claimed to have blocked Sinjin on N2 - which Sinjin does not confirm and Gadarene also claims to have been blocked, with two deaths. So for N1 and N2 we appear to have two roleblockers in play. Thus far, no one has claimed to have been blocked on N3. Re-reading - this does appear to paint Sinjin in a fairly poor light - if ATPG is truthful. There were already a fair number of votes on ATPG at the point he claimed he blocked Sinjin -- a) an attempt to divert attention from him, or b) to give town cred to Sinjin since he was going down. If the lynch wagon had changed direction and Sinjin had flipped scum - then Sinjin couldnt have been responsible for the additional kill (since that would have given 2 NK's to the scum). So I'm leaning towards ATPG throwing out wifom and smudging Sinjin. So that leaves us with the who is the other killer, and why no kill on N2 Which is where Pollux's post caught my eye: Day TwoPost #57: Says he can easily see a do-gooder justification for Penguin. Post #59: Questions Jan, asks if she sees Hal powering up Pleo as a scummy move or just anti-town, and if she has any other suspicions. Post #102: Argues role names shouldn't be a null tell, because the color says Batman and fellow do-gooders have come back to save Gotham. Says we can't assume alignment based on role name, but can't assume it's meaningless either. Post #107: Notes if you read Lightfoot's posts as a person with a do-gooder name also being town, they make some sense. Post #120: Questions Meeko; Says his PM doesn't reference his name aside from the header, refers to him as "you." Post #289: Asks mahaloth about his opinions on Lightfoot's PM and whether he thinks it's a well-edited scum PM or a carefully worded PFK PM. Says he's leaning town on Lightfoot due to her discussion about names on Day One. Post #493: Votes for Drain Bead based on her being a possible recruiter due to her revealing she knew texcat wasn't a third party, and Nanook's claim. Post #495: Says he's waiting for the other shoe to drop: two dead scum and feels another just got outed, along with our supposed masonries and mahaloth becoming town, he's wondering what else the scum have up their sleeve. Night TwoPost #96: Requests to be subbed out due to business. This provides the possibility that Dirx was the other killer and there was no kill because he wasn't around.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Mar 27, 2012 9:38:04 GMT -5
Quiet out there toDay.
DAY FOUR OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT - TUESDAY AM
Lightfoot (2 votes) - gnarlycharly (29), Hal Briston (46) Cookies (2 votes) - Nanook (43), scathach (94) Hal Briston (1 vote) - Idle Thoughts (15) Idle Thoughts (1 vote) - Suburban Plankton (45) sinjin (1 vote) - Mahaloth (66) gnarlycharly (1 vote) - Lightfoot (80) Pollux Oil (1 vote) - Meeko (86)
None of the devices have changed so far toDay. Meanwhile, Day Four ends on Thursday, 29 March, at 5:00 PM Eastern.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Mar 27, 2012 10:01:28 GMT -5
I'm dithering.
On the one hand, I've got my usual "gut" problem with Cookies: Something about her play is bothering me, but damned if I can say what.
Hal's early play and vote/unvote game with Pleo's power doesn't bother me exactly, but...
And, I don't really like Idle's claim, either.
Dammit.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Mar 27, 2012 10:46:37 GMT -5
Idle Thoughts: The wording of his claim is odd I agree. The powers line especially "POWERS: If targeted for Nightkill, the first time you have a 50% chance of killing your assailant via the poison you secrete." What's with the first time? It seems almost implied that Idle will die if NK'd but has a chance of taking the attacker out with him. But then, the "first time" implies he will survive. Does he have a 50% chance of survival? Then what happens? It's unclear in a way that the other role PM's haven't been. Just a WAG, but perhaps that means "If you are targeted for nightkilling by multiple people, you have a 50% of killing the first one that targeted you". That's my problem with the claim...it shouldn't require a WAG in order to understand how it works.
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Post by LightFoot on Mar 27, 2012 11:18:58 GMT -5
Just a WAG, but perhaps that means "If you are targeted for nightkilling by multiple people, you have a 50% of killing the first one that targeted you". That's my problem with the claim...it shouldn't require a WAG in order to understand how it works. If I’ve read this all correctly, Idle didn’t ask the mod for clarification and doesn’t see a reason to? I would have had a few questions, myself.
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Post by LightFoot on Mar 27, 2012 11:23:07 GMT -5
In case things get worse I will get a vote in atleast I made my case yesterDay, I didn’t like the way gnarlycharlie has not justified his votes. His posts seem light . I should have more time. But the problems here have not gone away yet. Call it what you will. Vote: gnarlycharlie [/color] @ SBrOwn / etal I can’t confirm Town. I can only soft confirm scum/not scum and it’s not worth much.(I can be tricked) You can take into consideration my questions re: names and alignment D1. I have a Town classification and a super hero name. When pressured because of my name I claimed. ( I don’t like claiming SisC may remember I sided with her in a game or two on that subject) Maybe Town would gain more from my death. But I would like to get another investigation or two in before that happens. Not my decision to make now, though. [/quote] can't say i'm surprised by this vote. still haven't been reading my posts? there aren't that many. i HAVE justified my votes. your lack of an investigation certainly isn't going to help you. i expected to be investigated since you thought i was most suspicious. [/quote] Which may have something to do with no one being blocked ( or claiming to be) last Night. As for justifying your votes.. I addressed that in the night thread ( even used your links) there is nothing there that justifies/explains your POV on the people you voted. Just other player’s homework. And I might add you didn’t respond to that either. Btw. I posted when I was able to post. It had nothing to do with being “ called out” as you puts it.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Mar 27, 2012 11:41:15 GMT -5
What's happened to this game Today? We still haven't heard a peep from Total, peeker, or Gadarene (though Gad did post about being busy at work in the 'going to be away' thread), and we seem to be just scattering votes all over the place.
I can sort of understand why people are voting for LightFoot; her claim is unsubstantiated and trivial for Scum to fake, and her failure to act last Night is just plain bad. But it does seem like a very unlikely play for her to make if she was Scum, when she could easily pick any non-Scum player and claim that they are non-Scum.
I somewhat share Sister Coyote's 'uneasy' feeling about Cookies, but like SisC I can't really put a finger on exactly why, so I'm not going to vote for her at this point.
I'm feeling nervous about Pollux Oil's plan to count down his device; I can't shake the feeling that he placed it himself (or knows who placed it) and knows exactly what is going to happen when it 'goes off'. I don't think anyone would be terribly shocked if his device had no immediately apparent effect, so there might not be a lot of risk in him setting it off (assuming he knows what it's going to do). I will freely admit that I have no evidence that Pollux actually has any knowledge that he hasn't shared with us; I just have a 'bad feeling'.
And I think I had more to say here, but I've had this sitting in a preview window for almost an hour now (I'm at work, and people actually want me to do stuff), and I've forgotten what else I was thinking at the time...so I'm just posting what I've got, and I'll add the rest later, assuming I remember what it was.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Mar 27, 2012 11:44:12 GMT -5
can't say i'm surprised by this vote. still haven't been reading my posts? there aren't that many. i HAVE justified my votes. your lack of an investigation certainly isn't going to help you. i expected to be investigated since you thought i was most suspicious. Which may have something to do with no one being blocked ( or claiming to be) last Night. Maybe i'm being dense this morning, but I have no idea how what gnarly posted has anything to do with the lack of blocks last Night. Help?
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Post by Mahaloth on Mar 27, 2012 11:49:56 GMT -5
unvote sinjin
vote Cookies
I almost did this earlier. It's a ridiculous idea to lynch me or Nanook.
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Post by LightFoot on Mar 27, 2012 11:51:30 GMT -5
Which may have something to do with no one being blocked ( or claiming to be) last Night. Maybe i'm being dense this morning, but I have no idea how what gnarly posted has anything to do with the lack of blocks last Night. Help? If scum thought I was goint to investigate charlie last Night they may have attempted to block me.. ( which was not productive since I missed the window)
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Mar 27, 2012 12:28:31 GMT -5
Maybe i'm being dense this morning, but I have no idea how what gnarly posted has anything to do with the lack of blocks last Night. Help? If scum thought I was goint to investigate charlie last Night they may have attempted to block me.. ( which was not productive since I missed the window) ah, got it. thanks
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 27, 2012 12:42:58 GMT -5
Sorry, everyone, I was posting as I caught up, hence the irritating multiposting. Vote: ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies [/b][/color] She seems entirely too cavalier about killing people. Suggesting lynching Mahaloth over Pollux even though Maha has claimed a power and Pollux has not. Wants Pollux to activate his device (incidentally Pollux, I don't really think you should), despite the fact that we don't have a clue what it does. I don't like her continued insistence that people being "unconfirmed" is such a bad thing. In a lot of mafia games, people don't really get 100% confirmed except by lynch or NK - so it's not the huge disadvantage she seems to imply. It seems more like an excuse to lynch into the claimed pool for the dubious benefit of "confirming" the survivors. As for other people: Idle Thoughts: The wording of his claim is odd I agree. The powers line especially "POWERS: If targeted for Nightkill, the first time you have a 50% chance of killing your assailant via the poison you secrete." What's with the first time? It seems almost implied that Idle will die if NK'd but has a chance of taking the attacker out with him. But then, the "first time" implies he will survive. Does he have a 50% chance of survival? Then what happens? It's unclear in a way that the other role PM's haven't been. However, PizzaGuy was the first to point out flaws with Idle's claim which puts me off voting him a little. Hal Briston: Nothing has increased or decreased my suspicion for him really. Sinjin: With askthepizzaguys scum flip, I'm less likely to believe that his claimed block of her prevented the 3rd night kill. Meeko: Is still approaching the game orthogonally from me. [/quote] I'm pretty sure you meant to say Nanook a few times in there instead of Pollux. I'm not voting Pollux because I don't happen to find him scummy. I'm not voting anyone, actually. And I support his proposal to countdown his device because the Town needs information about the devices in order to make informed decisions. And that is the rub about the amount of unconfirmed information. Unconfirmed information is a handicap to insightful analysis, it can be somewhat better than no information at all, but it can also be more damaging that no information at all if the Unconfirmed information is due to scummy manipulation and lies. Sorry if my discussion of death as method of the Town gaining information, but that is not a concept I came up with. It is kinda a major facet of the game. I made a couple of posts about how lynching LightFoot out of the unconfirmed pile, for example, would provide less direct evidence than say lynching Mahaloth or Nanook, and I trust both of them somewhat less than others in the unconfirmed pile. From a lynch for information perspective, either one works, but lynching for information isn't enough hence I'm not voting for either of them yet as I don't have a sufficient case built. I may not ever have a case that I'm happy with, and could end up changing my mind completely. But right now, I have my doubts so I don't consider lynching either one to be an idea from out in left field like some seem to think. I can't defend against any heebie-jeebies that now 3 or 4 of you seem to apparently hold about me. At least try to put your feelings into words so I can make counter-arguments.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 27, 2012 12:44:17 GMT -5
NETA Sorry if my discussion of death as method of the Town gaining information is an affront to anyone's delicate sensibilities, but that is not a concept I came up with. It is kinda a major facet of the game.
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Post by scáthach on Mar 27, 2012 12:59:05 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure you meant to say Nanook a few times in there instead of Pollux. Dammit! I keep mixing them up and I don't know why :/
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Post by scáthach on Mar 27, 2012 13:00:49 GMT -5
NETA Sorry if my discussion of death as method of the Town gaining information is an affront to anyone's delicate sensibilities, but that is not a concept I came up with. It is kinda a major facet of the game. I, for one, fear swooning if all this morbid talk continues
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Post by Pollux Oil on Mar 27, 2012 13:51:38 GMT -5
I suggested the possibility that Pollux may have planted the device on himself, something which he dismissed as a smudge, but now makes the same suggestion of SBrown. To be fair, yours was slightly more smudgey than mine. You added me putting the device on myself as "a nice way to not have a voting history" before any evidence of me not voting had occurred. (And so far I have voted every Day despite the device.) As for SBrown, I wouldn't consider me pointing out she has the largest number which could mean she chose that for herself for a reason as a smudge. However if you want to take it that way feel free. I'm feeling nervous about Pollux Oil's plan to count down his device; I can't shake the feeling that he placed it himself (or knows who placed it) and knows exactly what is going to happen when it 'goes off'. I don't think anyone would be terribly shocked if his device had no immediately apparent effect, so there might not be a lot of risk in him setting it off (assuming he knows what it's going to do). I will freely admit that I have no evidence that Pollux actually has any knowledge that he hasn't shared with us; I just have a 'bad feeling'. That's kind of why I want to detonate it. I don't know what's going to happen. But only I know that for sure until whatever happens when the countdown hits 0 happens. If I blow up, then obviously I was telling the truth and you guys can move on to finding the actual device maker and not have 'feelings' about whether I am responsible for it or not. On the other hand, if it doesn't blow up we have a nice can of worms opened because 1) we'll have to figure out what the devices are really around for and 2) I'll have to defend myself as a possible suspect for the devices. I made a couple of posts about how lynching LightFoot out of the unconfirmed pile, for example, would provide less direct evidence than say lynching Mahaloth or Nanook, and I trust both of them somewhat less than others in the unconfirmed pile. From a lynch for information perspective, either one works, but lynching for information isn't enough hence I'm not voting for either of them yet as I don't have a sufficient case built. I may not ever have a case that I'm happy with, and could end up changing my mind completely. But right now, I have my doubts so I don't consider lynching either one to be an idea from out in left field like some seem to think. I'm going to step outside the box and say that so far Cookies hasn't said anything that pings me. She's given a few unconventional ideas and had opinions I disagreed with, but fundamentally her suggestions are just that: suggestions. I'd much rather go after somebody from the unconfirmed area or somebody I think is suspicious, though, simply because of the fact that eventually the non-town killers are going to have to start killing out of the confirmed-ish pile. Very rarely does a town get so paranoid to kill a confirmed-ish person. My only niggling suspicion is that Nanook pulled a Hoopy/Cabal type gambit, pretending he was a town recruiter when he's actually the scum recruiter, and now him and mahaloth are both scum that basically have free will to do whatever they want until one of them dies. But that's paranoia and I'd rather trust analysis and voting histories than outright paranoia.
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Post by Nanook on Mar 27, 2012 15:41:36 GMT -5
no one called me out toDay before i posted and voted. Lightfoot did after she was called out. Your first, and before this, only post in Today's thread is this one. can't say i'm surprised by this vote. still haven't been reading my posts? there aren't that many. i HAVE justified my votes. your lack of an investigation certainly isn't going to help you. i expected to be investigated since you thought i was most suspicious. It came an hour and a half after Lightfoot voted for you. You addressed absolutely nothing other than Lightfoot's vote. You had no comment on the devices. You had no comment on any other outstanding case. You had no new cases of your own. And then you made a second post. The one I started this replay by quoting, which once again ignored every single thing that was happening other than the discussion centered on you. I think I find Cookies slightly more suspicious than you, but she has the slight advantage of actually playing the game. You're clearly out only to avoid drawing as much attention as possible, which is the action of a scum or PFK. Unvote: Cookies Vote: gnarlycharlie
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Post by LightFoot on Mar 27, 2012 16:44:45 GMT -5
I’m sure this will be helpful. [/sarcasm]
pollux if I were you I’d hold off pushing the count-down on your device -we know what triggers it, but not what it triggers. Of course your call entirely.
SBrOwn as far as you know have you done anything different toDay/ or not done something that you did yesterday to trigger your counter? (I’ll try to go look when I get home from work)
Hal Yours hasn’t changed, so you have not done ( or someone else has not) what ever your device wants.
If they are a third party device ( and I lean that way myself) the recipients could be of any alignment. 3rd party players would not (I don’t feel) be privey to the alignments of others. Or perhaps even care that much?- barring an investigative role that finds 3rd parties- It could be a Scum device sender, but it seems a bit high powered to be a scum power.
And we have the kerosene we don't know what does.
3 hours before I get off work I’ll do better to bring more to the table then
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Mar 27, 2012 16:46:34 GMT -5
Bloodshed last Night, sheesh. I still find myself coming back to finding Hal and Lightfoot the most suspicious of everyone so far....although I admit my suspicious of Hal is mostly biased due to what I believe to be hypocritical voting for me on Day One. Lightfoot is another matter, though. While we've seen the names in this game are not always linked to side (with pengiun being on the side of Batman), I still can't see how Robin ever, under any circumstances, worked with the baddies against Batman. Even Catwoman, if I remember correctly, was pro-Batman sometimes. I can see her going both ways, really. Pengiun? Less so, but wasn't there one episode where he worked with Batman? I dunno, I never saw the original show and I never read the comics, but I thought I had read something about him working with Batman one time before. Anyway, Robin on the other hand...isn't he Batman's right hand basically? Hmm - you kind of half think that once maybe you saw the Penguin working with Batman, but you're dead certain Robin has never worked against Batman? (Despite people pointing out already that there was one Robin who did in fact work against Batman) I know virtually nothing about the Batman universe. I was only guessing with the Robin thing. For all I know, he has worked against him before (I didn't see it pointed out yet that he has).
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Post by Pollux Oil on Mar 27, 2012 17:07:55 GMT -5
I know virtually nothing about the Batman universe. I was only guessing with the Robin thing. For all I know, he has worked against him before (I didn't see it pointed out yet that he has). One of the Robins eventually turned into the Red Hood, who was more of an antagonist to Batman than his sidekick. That's about the extent of knowledge I have, though, as far as official comics go.
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Post by SBrOwn on Mar 27, 2012 17:10:27 GMT -5
SBrOwn as far as you know have you done anything different toDay/ or not done something that you did yesterday to trigger your counter? (I’ll try to go look when I get home from work) I haven't voted/unvoted toDay like I did yesterday. However, I didn't vote 3 times yesterDay (I think I did it 2x), so I don't think that's it. And I don't mind the help in figuring out this device. I actually appreciate it. Thanks LF.And Idle, there was a bit of discussion back when LF claimed about Jason Todd as the one evil Batman Robin (who ends up becoming a villain after being brought back to life by R'as Al Ghul's reanimation pits- he goes nuts, and becomes the Red Hood). Sorry I can't post as heavily toDay, I've been neglecting my schoolwork, and it's catching up. But I'm still going stay active and all, no worries! Just less massive data gathering and hours of reading through old posts currently. =\
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Mar 27, 2012 17:50:41 GMT -5
SBrOwn as far as you know have you done anything different toDay/ or not done something that you did yesterday to trigger your counter? (I’ll try to go look when I get home from work) I haven't voted/unvoted toDay like I did yesterday. However, I didn't vote 3 times yesterDay (I think I did it 2x), so I don't think that's it. And I don't mind the help in figuring out this device. I actually appreciate it. Thanks LF.YesterDay, you voted twice and unvoted once, for a total of 3 'voting actions'...but I don't think that's the trigger. Though there's an easy way to test that.
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