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Post by Meeko on Mar 31, 2012 21:11:46 GMT -5
Sbrown : Since you have a stake here : What do you think about Unvoting Idle ? That is, I'm not sure as I was a second ago now.
He charges me with being purposefully obtuse, yet the entire game now knows that he is.
What action should we take?
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Mar 31, 2012 21:13:39 GMT -5
I've already told you everything I know. I don't see any reason why you need to see my role PM.
If you think I'm think I'm hiding something else, well, good. Isn't that what I want you to be thinking?
But the stuff about Suburban Plankton is true, and I have posted that full PM in post number 21.
But going back to asking me for a full role PM...what don't you believe? That I have the power to kill? How do you explain that second kill, then, when Texcat says she didn't target anyone? One was the scum and one was me with my extra kill. Both are accounted for.
Suburban Plankton says someone tried to kill him last Night, but I'm pretty sure that's BS. Only way that happened is if Texcat is lying and DID try for a hit on him OR there's another role with a kill power in the game, although nobody on the scum team has one. What we DID do is one of the scum (who has the power to take away other powers) targeted Suburban and we were told it worked (the message posted above in post number 21). And yes, the third scum is an investigator. At this point, I don't care if you know and I doubt they do either....I don't see it helping Town out very much since you're already being fooled more than once, LOL.
Believe me or don't..I don't care. But Suburban is third party. He probably won't be a threat anymore, though, because he can't do whatever he used to be able to do. With (town) luck, maybe he was the reason people are wearing devices.
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Post by Meeko on Mar 31, 2012 21:13:52 GMT -5
Why is Pleonast's play style back, and what did he do With Idle, and his play style?
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Post by LightFoot on Mar 31, 2012 21:14:21 GMT -5
I tried damnded it - go get them!!- remember stuff that was said.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Mar 31, 2012 21:17:03 GMT -5
Sbrown : Since you have a stake here : What do you think about Unvoting Idle ? That is, I'm not sure as I was a second ago now. He charges me with being purposefully obtuse, yet the entire game now knows that he is. What action should we take? The Joker said I was scum. What's not to believe or be sure of? I said I was scum too...unvoting would be a foolish move.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Mar 31, 2012 21:22:37 GMT -5
In fact, don't take my word for it...do the list yourself. List all the people alive left in the game and all the people with devices on them. I think that's Pollux, SB, Hal, and now Bill, right?
HUH, WEIRD...I don't see Suburban Plankton on that list, do any of you?
I'd bet dollars to doughnuts he was the one planting them...although now that we took away his power, I predict you won't see any more devices on anyone after toDay.
Anyway..*lays back and relaxes again*
Ahhh *sips a cool drink*
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Post by SBrOwn on Mar 31, 2012 21:42:37 GMT -5
I tried damnded it - go get them!!- remember stuff that was said. Sorry, I laughed at this one. Best final words ever: "Remember stuff that was said!"Meeko- Honestly, do whatever feels right for you. I'm in the 30s right now, I'm not that worried right now, but please be smart about it- I don't want you to use me as an excuse for your actions, but at the same time, I don't want you to just go nuts and just start voting/unvoting in the various threads like yesterday. I'd be more suspicious though if everytime you unvoted you asked me about it- because I don't want to be the justifications for your actions. Idle - I want to see your full PM, because I want to read your flavor and your quote by Huntress. And then I'm going to go back and look at the acrostic, as I believe the more you delay, the more likely you're probably just a Scummy Ivy and not a Scummy Huntress, [why it matters- I don't know yet]. But I still wonder if you have a bomb type ability at the end of toDay, and if maybe your ability is not the extra NK (maybe another scum had an extra NK?)- but instead to be a Joker type role- maybe that you expose yourself, and then when you get Lynched and then you'll kill one of your voters [I'm not going to change my vote, but still it's on my mind] -I know even if you posted your flavor, you wouldn't post that part of your Role PM. Hence, just the flavor/quote and all that jazz will be enough for me- because then it'll also give me an idea of were you supplied with a fake role PM by Storyteller, and thus gave the acrostic for Ivy, or if you just had an acrostic for both PMs or if you didn't plan that much ahead. Actually, I'd have to go back and see if you even posted an acrostic. I didn't have it in my notes. :sigh: I just feel like i need more information about what's going on, and that I'm talking to the exact wrong person for it.
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Post by Meeko on Mar 31, 2012 21:45:25 GMT -5
I just feel like i need more information about what's going on, and that I'm talking to the exact wrong person for it. If I may, In general, I've been feeling this was for a while now.
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Post by Gadarene on Mar 31, 2012 21:50:24 GMT -5
I wouldn't believe anything Idle says, obviously. Pollux, I'm playing poker this weekend, so I'm on my phone exclusively and can't fully contribute for the next couple of days. I will say, though, that I posted all communication to me regarding peeker in the Night One thread (and then whenever I actually quoted story's full PM) -- we haven't had any PMs or other interaction since then. As far as I understand it from what I received, the function of peeker's role is simply to reveal himself as mod-confirmed town one time to a fellow townie, and that's it. It's not a true masonry or anything. Peeker can correct me if I'm wrong.
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Post by SBrOwn on Mar 31, 2012 22:03:35 GMT -5
As far as I understand it from what I received, the function of peeker's role is simply to reveal himself as mod-confirmed town one time to a fellow townie, and that's it. I thought peeker said it didn't have to be to a fellow Townie.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Mar 31, 2012 22:09:38 GMT -5
I just feel like i need more information about what's going on, and that I'm talking to the exact wrong person for it. I'll make both you and Meeko a deal. You unvote me (and don't vote for me againt toDay) and I'll post it in the final minutes of this day, the whole thing. Just like you didn't expect me to post the full PM, I don't expect you or him will take this offer, but hey, it will be more info you can use however you want.
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Post by Chronos on Mar 31, 2012 22:27:41 GMT -5
BTW, I've spoiled Cookies
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Post by Gadarene on Mar 31, 2012 22:28:46 GMT -5
As far as I understand it from what I received, the function of peeker's role is simply to reveal himself as mod-confirmed town one time to a fellow townie, and that's it. I thought peeker said it didn't have to be to a fellow Townie. I must have missed him saying that. Doesn't change my alignment, though.
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Post by Meeko on Mar 31, 2012 22:28:49 GMT -5
I just feel like i need more information about what's going on, and that I'm talking to the exact wrong person for it. I'll make both you and Meeko a deal. You unvote me (and don't vote for me againt toDay) and I'll post it in the final minutes of this day, the whole thing. Just like you didn't expect me to post the full PM, I don't expect you or him will take this offer, but hey, it will be more info you can use however you want. By way of answering..... Let me NOT answer this. Instead; I'm against role claiming. We don't need to be giving scum what they need.
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Post by SBrOwn on Mar 31, 2012 22:41:51 GMT -5
I'll make both you and Meeko a deal. You unvote me (and don't vote for me againt toDay) and I'll post it in the final minutes of this day, the whole thing. But I thought you said you were fine with being lynched, why the sudden change of heart? And why wait that long? Do you really expect me to trust you as scum on that part- Scum Lie. Keep Negotating, Scum. I still think you're hiding something.
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Mar 31, 2012 23:42:34 GMT -5
crap! more WIFOM from Idle. he could well be telling the truth or may be wanting to be lynched to activate some power. based on Lightfoot and Cookies flipping town, i'm leaning towards texcat being town vig. story has been dastard(ly). i'm okay with lynching Idle but can we discuss other players... or do we meet each other on D6? it's possible that Idle is sacrificing himself for Suburban Plankton. scum may have decided that Idle may be vigged by texcat or eventually lynched. i still haven't forgotten SP for what i believe is a PIS when he said lynching Lightfoot would be a mislynch. Idle's comments paint him as neutered and harmless, a great way not to be considered scum. Vote Suburban Planktoni will move my vote to Idle if someone else challenges his wagon but isn't named Suburban Plankton.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Mar 31, 2012 23:56:57 GMT -5
it's possible that Idle is sacrificing himself for Suburban Plankton. scum may have decided that Idle may be vigged by texcat or eventually lynched. i still haven't forgotten SP for what i believe is a PIS when he said lynching Lightfoot would be a mislynch. Idle's comments paint him as neutered and harmless, a great way not to be considered scum. Vote Suburban Planktoni will move my vote to Idle if someone else challenges his wagon but isn't named Suburban Plankton. Dinner's done, and I think I've caught up. More in a moment, but when did I say that lynching LightFoot would be a mislynch?
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Apr 1, 2012 0:26:54 GMT -5
I don't know if it's time for a mass claim yet, but I don't see any reason to hold back on this at this point.
Someone did try to kill me last Night. As I said, I don't know who it was, but I received a PM at Dawn saying in part (with the rest coming shortly
Apparently I was either the Scum's regular target, or I was Idle's special target last Night, since the Scum seem to know that I am now powerless.
The problem is that with two kills and one attempted kill last Night, we have one unexplained attempt, assuming texcat did not act.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Apr 1, 2012 0:47:48 GMT -5
Now, as for the rest...
Night 1 I targeted LightFoot. After her confusion regarding 'good guys vs. bad guys' on Day 1, I thought she might be a 3rd Party with a role that was somewhat ambiguous. So I targeted her with the intention of blocking her.
Night 2 I targeted Gadarene. I figured that with him and peeker being 'confirmed Masons' (which was how it appeared at the time) one of them might be a good target for Scum. Since peeker had claimed to be effectively Vanilla at that point, I thought Gad would be the juicier target, I targeted him with the intention of protecting him.
Night 3 I targeted gnarlycharlie. I had a gut feeling he might be Scum, so I took a chance in case I could block the Scum kill.
Night 4 I targeted sinjin. Pizza had claimed to have blocked sinjin on Night 2 when there were only 2 kills, and I thought he might have been telling the truth, so I decided to block sinjin. I did consider targeting Cookies to protect her, but was hoping the Scum would assume that and strike elsewhere. Apparently I should have drank the WIFOM.
So, we have an unexplained 'missing kill' on Night 2, when I blocked and protected Gadarene. It could be that he is a killer, and I blocked him, or it could be that he was a target that Night and I protected him. Or of course I could have had nothing whatsoever to do with it.
And last Night, we had three kill attempts: Scum , Idle , and a third person. Between Scum and Idle, one of tho em was successful, and the other failed to kill me. So who was the third 'killer'?
texcat would seem the obvious party, since he's a confessed killer. But that seems almost too obvious.
By the way, the full PM I received this Morning read as follows:
It was the only PM I received from story all game.
Well technically, I received two others: one confirming receipt of my Night 2 actions and one confirming my Night 3 target.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Apr 1, 2012 0:49:30 GMT -5
Oh, and anybody who gives any credence to a word that Idle says Today other than "I'm Scum" needs to have their head examined.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Apr 1, 2012 0:54:44 GMT -5
And I'm off to bed...talk to you all in the morning.
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Post by Total Ullz on Apr 1, 2012 1:49:31 GMT -5
If it was "just" Idle claiming I could understand the bomb-theories. But I would think Story above mod-confirming a Scum with the ability to take out a player voting for him.
I know we can't count on "The Mod would never do that" but I find it highly unlikely. If Scum wanted us to lynch Idle (to gain power from the votes) they could just have written it in the first note to me. And if we then lynched Scum based on that, I am pretty sure I would have trusted the note-writer a little too much...
Mass claim? I don't mind it but have a hard time seeing what it will gain us. The names will tell us nothing. The powers in the game seem all crooked or tangled or adjusted to this game. And it looks like we don't have protectors left to look after the powers we might benefit from later in the game. Mass claim - I actually just talked myself out of not minding. I don't think that is the way to go ATM.
Oh, and VOTE IDLE [/b] (on my phone - could someone check if I got the coding right??)
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Post by Total Ullz on Apr 1, 2012 1:54:10 GMT -5
i still haven't forgotten SP for what i believe is a PIS when he said lynching Lightfoot would be a mislynch. Idle's comments paint him as neutered and harmless, a great way not to be considered scum. I find this very interesting. See it wasn't until this Morning that I knew for sure LightFood was indeed Town. So you seeing a PIS in saying so before we knew her alignment makes we wonder if it isn't you showing PIS here...
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Post by Total Ullz on Apr 1, 2012 2:39:22 GMT -5
Hey everyone! Listening? Seriously, you people reading this - folks from the Straight Dope and Idlemafia mafia group, playing this game, right now: are you listening? This is important, pay attention!!! IDLE THOUGHTS IS SCUM.[/u][/color] Thank you. ----[/quote] And THIS has better not be an Aprils-fool
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Post by BillMc on Apr 1, 2012 4:00:41 GMT -5
A shotgun bolted to my chest - ouch, that's gotta hurt. And the readout is πei0 no idea what that is.
So we now have Idle as mod confirmed town Vote: Idle There is the chance that Idle was being semi-truthful about being Poison Ivy and he will take someone with him when lynched. We probably should be careful who has the first and last votes on idle just in case.
So Idle is claiming: #1 there are two more scum #2 that he was mod confirmed in exchange for an extra NK #3 that NK was targeted at Plankton #4 which failed, and that attack was confirmed by Plankton. #5 that plankton is 3rd party
For #1, we started with 31, so 5-6 scum would be plausible. We've seen four third parties: pleo, guiri, mahaloth, drain; and there is a mad bomber type role in play, and possibly a pfk. With this, five scum seems more likely, but if tex is town, then six scum seems more likely.
For #2 we have two deaths, and an attempted kill. Plankton confirms that he was targeted, so still have one unexplained kill. It would seem extremely over powered for the scum to have 3 kills in one night.
For Idle to be lying about #3, Plankton would need to lie about #4, which would mean that Plankton was in on it, and would be scum.
Plankton's protective targets were: Lightfoot, Gadarene, Gnarly, Sinjin. Lightfoot and Gadarene confirmed being blocked; Gnarly did not. You would think that select a target and lock that player inside an impenetrable wall of ice. is something you would notice irrespective of whether the target had a night action - but Lightfoot and Gadarene just said they were blocked, not encased in ice - so that would suggest the blocking message was not "in colour", which does't really help us discern anything about Gnarly. We need to hear from Sinjin before drawing any further conclusions.
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Post by BillMc on Apr 1, 2012 4:07:25 GMT -5
On point #1, if the scum have a recruitment power to match Nanook's, then it could be six if they had successfully recruited.
If Idle is being truthful that the scum investigated Plankton and new he was 3rd - why didn't they just recruit him? So I think we can be fairly certain that Plankton is town and not 3rd.
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Apr 1, 2012 5:25:36 GMT -5
i still haven't forgotten SP for what i believe is a PIS when he said lynching Lightfoot would be a mislynch. Idle's comments paint him as neutered and harmless, a great way not to be considered scum. I find this very interesting. See it wasn't until this Morning that I knew for sure LightFood was indeed Town. So you seeing a PIS in saying so before we knew her alignment makes we wonder if it isn't you showing PIS here... i'm not sure i understand what you mean. in D1, SP said to Lightfoot that the worst that could happen to her would be a mislynch. i voted him for that. in D2 and D3, i felt that Pizza was a better choice. on D4 and thereafter, i felt that Lightfoot was most suspicious. since she flipped town, i remembered by case on SP on D1 so am now voting him. here is the post for reference. ----------------------------------------- also, damn you, Idle, for screwing with us this April Fools day.
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Post by guiri on Apr 1, 2012 5:39:35 GMT -5
Ha, ha, ha. Happy April 1st! aeiou
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Post by Merestil Haye on Apr 1, 2012 6:51:13 GMT -5
At least he hasn't changed everyone's names again.
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Post by Hal Briston on Apr 1, 2012 6:57:53 GMT -5
Damn....after 48 hours of not being able to catch up, I come back to an unreadable page.
Will this be an hour-or-two-ha-ha-April-Fools thing, or am I checking back tomorrow?
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