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Post by ryjae on Mar 19, 2008 19:16:46 GMT -5
Okay I just watched Batman on FX. I doubt it will help in any meaningful way but if we assume playing for keeps is a third group out for themselves ala that Ra's guy and his henchmen in the movie. Now follow my ramblings a little bit, if you would. But if it is like that, a group thats not opposed to us or Batman but to both camps equally. We can safely make the assumption they wouldn't be as large of a group as we are. What are the options on there victory conditions? They cannot possibly take us all out and BatCo, thats unreasonable. It would be something else, I'm thinking somethig like slow poisonings (Probably because I just watched the movie) something where during the day or night they can slow poison a player and when set number of players are poisoned they win. They can't kill us all, there is no recruitment (right?) and this would be a sneaky way for a small group to take control and win out from under us. It doesn't have to be a poison it could be anything but sneaky methods. /rambling
I'm sure you can poke a million tiny holes into my scenario and I expect that and actually look forward to it.
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Post by Greedy Smurf on Mar 19, 2008 19:36:39 GMT -5
Okay I just watched Batman on FX. I doubt it will help in any meaningful way but if we assume playing for keeps is a third group out for themselves ala that Ra's guy and his henchmen in the movie. Now follow my ramblings a little bit, if you would. But if it is like that, a group thats not opposed to us or Batman but to both camps equally. We can safely make the assumption they wouldn't be as large of a group as we are. What are the options on there victory conditions? They cannot possibly take us all out and BatCo, thats unreasonable. It would be something else, I'm thinking somethig like slow poisonings (Probably because I just watched the movie) something where during the day or night they can slow poison a player and when set number of players are poisoned they win. They can't kill us all, there is no recruitment (right?) and this would be a sneaky way for a small group to take control and win out from under us. It doesn't have to be a poison it could be anything but sneaky methods. /rambling I'm sure you can poke a million tiny holes into my scenario and I expect that and actually look forward to it. That's not total rambling Ryjae, what you describe is very similar to a "mad bomber" type role - which is generally a solo operation I believe, but also very similair to the Speculators from the Blade Runner game. As to whether these types of individuals or factions are in this game? Who knows. I think we all agree that there is some form of third party in the mix, but what exactly? Personally I think a Serial Killer and/or a Survivor would suit the theme of the game, but to me the win condition seems to intimate an actual 'group' as well. We also know that Roosh & Dio have a set a up a 'slightily' BastardMod game, so I'm almost expecting a big left field play like a Chia Bingo Manager.
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Post by Rysto on Mar 19, 2008 19:43:34 GMT -5
Anything is possible. To be honest, I think that means that speculating isn't all that useful. We know that the Do Gooders and those Playing For Keeps need to die for the Town to win. As the game goes on, we can see how the night kills are working out and try to draw inferences from that.
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Post by sinjin on Mar 19, 2008 20:07:53 GMT -5
Something I need to put out there. My role PM states that I am "definitely a Baddie". When I go back and read that along with the color in the win condition, I get the impression that there are other people with canonical villian names that are not Baddies like me, but maybe pseudo-Baddies that can win with the Town, but have their own agenda and win condition. After thinking about it, I don't think name claims are going to do us much good. Why do you get the impression that the pseudo-Baddies can win with town? As far as I can tell from my pm we have to defeat/lynch the PFK's as well as the Scummy Do Gooders. Note I am not questioning your alignmet HM, I'm questioning your interpretation that the pseudo-Baddies win with town. *The added caps in my pm, hence my previous question about exactly matching. **And what kind of English is this anyway? Come on you guys aren't all nerds are you? I know English is my second language, but really.
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Post by Hockey Monkey! on Mar 19, 2008 20:11:40 GMT -5
Something I need to put out there. My role PM states that I am "definitely a Baddie". When I go back and read that along with the color in the win condition, I get the impression that there are other people with canonical villian names that are not Baddies like me, but maybe pseudo-Baddies that can win with the Town, but have their own agenda and win condition. After thinking about it, I don't think name claims are going to do us much good. Why do you get the impression that the pseudo-Baddies can win with town? As far as I can tell from my pm we have to defeat/lynch the PFK's as well as the Scummy Do Gooders. Note I am not questioning your alignmet HM, I'm questioning your interpretation that the pseudo-Baddies win with town. *The added caps in my pm, hence my previous question about exactly matching. **And what kind of English is this anyway? Come on you guys aren't all nerds are you? I know English is my second language, but really. See where I said "maybe"? I was making an example.
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Post by sinjin on Mar 19, 2008 20:26:52 GMT -5
Yes I see where you said maybe. I don't know why you said maybe.
and unvote Hoopy Frood
and revote rygae for reasons previously stated.
And NAF I'm posting as much as I can. I'm having trouble with the hotel internet connection. In order to post I have to open a new tab and copy and paste every single fucking time if I have the audacity to preview, arrrrrghhhhh.
Also, Mickey is calling my name and I can't resist his siren song.
So there you go 4 posts in one.
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Post by diggitcamara on Mar 19, 2008 20:28:19 GMT -5
Man, this thread is moving. FAST. First, ryjae: you are absolutely right. But, honestly? I can't keep up with this pace. I thought, well, with a week for Day One (and people, we're barely halfway through), we would have 6, maybe 7 pages. Tops. Second: the draingead affair. Made me laugh. I had noticed draingeads lack of.. well, the second letter of the alphabet, but put it down to a keyboard malfunction. When zuma? pointed it out, I realized that it was a restriction, due to her role. I would have loved to point it out, but sinc then, at least 4 pages of discussion ensued! By the way: Scarface is the villain, in the Bat-Universe. But there is the Ventriloquist controlling him(her). Could there be someone around who could, without her knowledge, change her actions? Maybe make her vote in a way she wouldn't? Maybe if that player dies, Scarface dies as well? I think that would actually be the reason why she should have been against the massive role claim. Returning to ryjae's argument against me: I have two days vacation coming up. I'll try to show who has and who hasn't participated during this Day. Maybe that'll single out the true lurkers amongst us. (It'll probably include me, I do acknowledge that, but I have a strong feeling that a couple of players have been drowning out the rest of us: storyteller, zuma, NAF, molefan and two or three more).
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Post by Rysto on Mar 19, 2008 20:36:56 GMT -5
Uh, Diggit, that's not meant to be a vote, right? 'Cause it's blue and has a player's name in it which makes it look exactly like a vote.
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Post by diggitcamara on Mar 19, 2008 20:49:46 GMT -5
Uh, Diggit, that's not meant to be a vote, right? 'Cause it's blue and has a player's name in it which makes it look exactly like a vote. Nope. It's a link. (and, honestly, I don't know how to color it differently).
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Post by Parzival on Mar 19, 2008 21:09:34 GMT -5
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Post by RoOsh on Mar 19, 2008 21:51:25 GMT -5
Uh, Diggit, that's not meant to be a vote, right? 'Cause it's blue and has a player's name in it which makes it look exactly like a vote. We Mods are not a silly bunch. I think we can tell the difference between a Blue Ryjae link, and a Vote Ryjae sorta post. Have no fear. Also: This is just a little notification/reminder: There is now less than 48 hours in the Day (Dusk is at 9pm on Friday). So keep that in mind. Get your votes, ideas, thoughts, witty banter, etc in because soon it will be night, and I shall take over. ;D Oh, and Unvote Ryjae. Just in case Dio is in an evil mood.
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Post by ryjae on Mar 19, 2008 22:06:32 GMT -5
Yes I see where you said maybe. I don't know why you said maybe. and unvote Hoopy Frood and revote rygae for reasons previously stated. And NAF I'm posting as much as I can. I'm having trouble with the hotel internet connection. In order to post I have to open a new tab and copy and paste every single fucking time if I have the audacity to preview, arrrrrghhhhh. Also, Mickey is calling my name and I can't resist his siren song. So there you go 4 posts in one. Because mole stated more than he should and I wanted an explanation? I admit I made a newbish mistake when I pestered him but as soon as a reasonable answer came out I was okay. Are you under some mod letter ban as well? It's a J not a G. Both times you voted me you made that mistake. Out of your 13 posts only 3 I could find had any substance as in not just agreeing with someone else. Or complaining about your internet connection, or forgetting underwear or someones name and a load of smilies or a one liner. I'm not in my element but I still am making stabs in the dark, why don't you try that?
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Post by Pollux Oil on Mar 19, 2008 22:38:27 GMT -5
Returning to ryjae's argument against me: I have two days vacation coming up. I'll try to show who has and who hasn't participated during this Day. Maybe that'll single out the true lurkers amongst us. (It'll probably include me, I do acknowledge that, but I have a strong feeling that a couple of players have been drowning out the rest of us: storyteller, zuma, NAF, molefan and two or three more). Well, I know for a fact I'm going to come up as lurking. I'm definitely trying to keep up with everything but man it's tough work. (And I don't even have a job at the moment. Yeeeeeesh.) I wish I had a new idea or something to contribute or an earthshattering revelation to add to the discussion but I got nothing. The only thing that's really jumped out at me is zuma's doggedly aggressive behavior about "wanting to win" and getting a lynch started. But as I stated previously, I think it's just zuma acting zuma-ish. However, NAF made a mistake with Cookies in the last game because he said "Cookies actions always make me think she's scum, so I put her at neutral" and it turned out Cookies was scum. So I don't know if I should discount zuma's behavior just because I think he's acting as himself or not.
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Post by tdpatriots12 on Mar 19, 2008 22:55:09 GMT -5
I'm working on my promises analysis post right now. Will take a while and might not, inevitably, be even useful. Won't know until I'm done.
Hoping though!
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Post by sinjin on Mar 19, 2008 22:59:02 GMT -5
Yes I see where you said maybe. I don't know why you said maybe. and unvote Hoopy Frood and revote rygae for reasons previously stated. And NAF I'm posting as much as I can. I'm having trouble with the hotel internet connection. In order to post I have to open a new tab and copy and paste every single fucking time if I have the audacity to preview, arrrrrghhhhh. Also, Mickey is calling my name and I can't resist his siren song. So there you go 4 posts in one. Because mole stated more than he should and I wanted an explanation? I admit I made a newbish mistake when I pestered him but as soon as a reasonable answer came out I was okay. Are you under some mod letter ban as well? It's a J not a G. Both times you voted me you made that mistake. Out of your 13 posts only 3 I could find had any substance as in not just agreeing with someone else. Or complaining about your internet connection, or forgetting underwear or someones name and a load of smilies or a one liner. I'm not in my element but I still am making stabs in the dark, why don't you try that? So ryjae sorry about the name thing. Your name is only letters to me with no meaning in my world view. I've typed it twice, twice every time and still get it wrong. I also disagree that I've only had 3/13 posts with substance. Do we have to be wordy to be substantial now? My smiley post was to indicate my disgruntlement with zuma's claim without being bitchy, hence the <snipped> stuff indicated. I don't think anyone but you was confused by that post. And please point out where I have posted solely to agree with anyone. That's not my style. Finally, yes I'm on spring break and I have a crappy connection, sue me. I'm voting the one I find most scummy, convince me you have found someone more scummy. And for the record this is not convincing: Emphasis mine. Posted without preview cause I'm tired of opening new browser windows. Expletive deleted.
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Post by Gir! on Mar 19, 2008 23:21:34 GMT -5
Okay, I went back and was rereading Day One Part One, and came across something that strikes me as...wrong. NAF's claimed mason, right? Right here (Do these links work for people, or should I not bother?): psychopathgame.proboards106.com/index.cgi?board=tempy&action=display&thread=290&page=9#18606And yet, his very first post, he says " Do masons have a seperate win condition, is there a serial killer, are there potentially multiple scum factions etc etc, are all things we need to look out for." (bolding mine) Right here: psychopathgame.proboards106.com/index.cgi?board=tempy&action=display&thread=290&page=2#18365If he's a mason, he would know whether or not masons have a separate win condition. Why wonder about it publicly? If they do have one, why would a mason want it speculated about, it'd just bring suspicion onto the masons later. And if they don't have one, why would a mason want it speculated about, it'd just bring suspicion onto the masons later. So, NAF, what was your reasoning behind that comment? Sure, someone else would have brought it up at some point (and at least one person did, IIRC), but why did you?
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Post by tdpatriots12 on Mar 20, 2008 0:12:19 GMT -5
I'm about a third of the way through my counting. Basically I'm subjectively grading the substance of everyone's posts (yeah, yeah - I'm not gonna defend it here, but it's not why I'm posting now). The order I went with was the order in which we posted in the thread, so I started with Kat. Working me way down I noticed plenty of statistical variation and a couple of people with severe cases of lurkitis, but nothing particularly scummy. Until ryjae. Well, here is basically a summary of my notes: ryjae has dedicated a significant chunk of his entire post total to calling out and pursuing Molegate, a slip up that molefan tossed into the ocean like so much chum. Anyway, going over ryjae's posts in chronological order left me feeling that his actions were opportunistic in nature, so I paid close attention. Next he discussed his PM, making claims about what it did and didn't say, only to admit he did not read it all that closely. Then he says he re-read his PM, and states that it now says differently. Following that, he asks for people to make up their mind on the issue of PM revealing, which, in the context of his other posts, reads like he's worried. After another brief discussion, he votes to lynch a lurker - I don't think I have to explain how scummy that feels to me. Finally, in his most recent post, he mentions how much of a new player he is. VOTE ryjae
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Post by ryjae on Mar 20, 2008 0:42:37 GMT -5
I'm about a third of the way through my counting. Basically I'm subjectively grading the substance of everyone's posts (yeah, yeah - I'm not gonna defend it here, but it's not why I'm posting now). The order I went with was the order in which we posted in the thread, so I started with Kat. Working me way down I noticed plenty of statistical variation and a couple of people with severe cases of lurkitis, but nothing particularly scummy. Until ryjae. Well, here is basically a summary of my notes: ryjae has dedicated a significant chunk of his entire post total to calling out and pursuing Molegate, a slip up that molefan tossed into the ocean like so much chum. Anyway, going over ryjae's posts in chronological order left me feeling that his actions were opportunistic in nature, so I paid close attention. Next he discussed his PM, making claims about what it did and didn't say, only to admit he did not read it all that closely. Then he says he re-read his PM, and states that it now says differently. Following that, he asks for people to make up their mind on the issue of PM revealing, which, in the context of his other posts, reads like he's worried. After another brief discussion, he votes to lynch a lurker - I don't think I have to explain how scummy that feels to me. Finally, in his most recent post, he mentions how much of a new player he is. VOTE ryjae Cool beans. I called out a lurker, and stated it as such. Opportunistic? Hardly. I felt coming in that vocal was the best way to go because in the other game I'm watching people keeping little things in is hosing them. You want to talk opportunistic, its you jumping on the lynch me boat. Bringing up me being a new player? Well yeah thats so the rest of the understanding townsfolk can explain things someone like me could miss. And yes I feel you do have to explain how scummy that feels to you? Barring any true suspicions isn't it better to lynch someone not putting anything out? Or should we all just post a few times a DaY to really make things easy on the scum?
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Post by tdpatriots12 on Mar 20, 2008 0:51:10 GMT -5
You want to talk opportunistic, its you jumping on the lynch me boat. Bringing up me being a new player? Well yeah thats so the rest of the understanding townsfolk can explain things someone like me could miss. I'm a new player, this is my first ever game of mafia in any format. Am I, too, supposed to grant you additional understanding? I would have guessed that figuring a lynch on a random lurker (of which there are many... some worse) with no particular justification for it out of nowhere is at the very least sensationalist. Plus, I expect anyone who was reading my entire summary would have guessed how it appeared to me in the context of your posts. That's a false dilemma; the only choices you have aren't "lynch someone you suspect" and "lynch random lurker." No need to get defensive, you've only been called out. It's not like you're on the way to the gallows or anything.
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Post by ryjae on Mar 20, 2008 0:52:25 GMT -5
To add to my previous vote, I'm going to call you a flat out fibber. You're trying to smear me, a total of SIX (6) posts are dedicated to the mole thing thats including my unvote and everything. So now I am going to ask why you're trying to smear me? Something stood out to you as scummy, thats fine I can deal with that but why lie???
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Post by Boozahol Squid, P.I. on Mar 20, 2008 0:54:51 GMT -5
This makes twenty one pages, so far? The scum must love the fact that you guys are giving them worlds of space to hide in...
(This time, with more accuracy, hopefully) CatInASuit 1 (Cookies) Molefan 1(kassia) kassia 1 (zuma) ryjae 3 (hawkmanop,sinjin,tdpatriots12) diggitcamera 1 (ryjae)
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Post by ryjae on Mar 20, 2008 1:01:41 GMT -5
You want to talk opportunistic, its you jumping on the lynch me boat. Bringing up me being a new player? Well yeah thats so the rest of the understanding townsfolk can explain things someone like me could miss. I'm a new player, this is my first ever game of mafia in any format. Am I, too, supposed to grant you additional understanding? I would have guessed that figuring a lynch on a random lurker (of which there are many... some worse) with no particular justification for it out of nowhere is at the very least sensationalist. Plus, I expect anyone who was reading my entire summary would have guessed how it appeared to me in the context of your posts. That's a false dilemma; the only choices you have aren't "lynch someone you suspect" and "lynch random lurker." No need to get defensive, you've only been called out. It's not like you're on the way to the gallows or anything. Not grant me "extra understanding" its called helping the town out by explaining a bit more to the less experienced players. No I voted early enough to have diggitcamara come in and explain what was going on. When I went over everything I noticed diggitcamaras first post stated this (page three DaY 1 pt 1 thread) Thats why my vote went there. Pressure the lurkers like he wanted. Yes I'm going to get defensive, 3 votes for me to ride the electric slide. And if there is anything I noticed watching, its once the boat gets going its sunk.
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Post by Rysto on Mar 20, 2008 1:07:42 GMT -5
This makes twenty one pages, so far? The scum must love the fact that you guys are giving them worlds of space to hide in... After trying in vain to get a handle on the scum in YSI, I'll take too much content over too little any day. Somewhere in all this, the scum will slip and we'll catch them. And if they don't slip, they deserve the win.
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Post by Captain Klutz on Mar 20, 2008 1:12:21 GMT -5
This is one heck of a Day. I haven't caught up yet and I'm about to go out for the evening. Be back later.
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Post by tdpatriots12 on Mar 20, 2008 1:14:12 GMT -5
To add to my previous vote, I'm going to call you a flat out fibber. You're trying to smear me, a total of SIX (6) posts are dedicated to the mole thing thats including my unvote and everything. So now I am going to ask why you're trying to smear me? Something stood out to you as scummy, thats fine I can deal with that but why lie??? Despite the fact that your post is one of these I will answer honestly. This was a summary of my notes taken over the course of reading your post history in conjunction with others to look for any anamolies in "quality posts" (something I mentioned earlier). When I say, "half [his] posts were dedicated to Molegate" I was referring to your quality posts, of which there were few by the same guidelines I was judging everyone else. There were a few who had as few "quality" posts, but the content of their posts wasn't scummy. So what I was saying was, "Half of your quality posts are dedicated to Molegate." Yes I'm going to get defensive, 3 votes for me to ride the electric slide. And if there is anything I noticed watching, its once the boat gets going its sunk. Ah, then perhaps I may owe you an apology on that front. I had been so caught up in counting posts that I honestly believed I was the first one to vote for you until Dio's update. I wasn't even aware of previous comments when I submitted my post as I drafted it in Word. *Disclaimer: I do not endorse my quality post theory, I only cite it here to justify the language I used.
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Post by ryjae on Mar 20, 2008 1:22:29 GMT -5
To add to my previous vote, I'm going to call you a flat out fibber. You're trying to smear me, a total of SIX (6) posts are dedicated to the mole thing thats including my unvote and everything. So now I am going to ask why you're trying to smear me? Something stood out to you as scummy, thats fine I can deal with that but why lie??? Despite the fact that your post is one of these I will answer honestly. This was a summary of my notes taken over the course of reading your post history in conjunction with others to look for any anamolies in "quality posts" (something I mentioned earlier). When I say, "half [his] posts were dedicated to Molegate" I was referring to your quality posts, of which there were few by the same guidelines I was judging everyone else. There were a few who had as few "quality" posts, but the content of their posts wasn't scummy. So what I was saying was, "Half of your quality posts are dedicated to Molegate." Yes I'm going to get defensive, 3 votes for me to ride the electric slide. And if there is anything I noticed watching, its once the boat gets going its sunk. Ah, then perhaps I may owe you an apology on that front. I had been so caught up in counting posts that I honestly believed I was the first one to vote for you until Dio's update. I wasn't even aware of previous comments when I submitted my post as I drafted it in Word. *Disclaimer: I do not endorse my quality post theory, I only cite it here to justify the language I used. Okay I understand that somewhat, and don't want to fight it out with you right now. But I do find it hard to believe what you're saying because it sure seems fishy that with all these spreadsheet workouts you have buzzing on posts and quality and anomalies you failed to see the other votes against me. sinjins alone was on/off/on again so that was 3 posts you missed, and hawkops and all of Dios updates. But I'm sure you'll explain it. But I won't catch it until tomorrow. It's time for me to try to get some shuteye.
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Post by tdpatriots12 on Mar 20, 2008 1:35:44 GMT -5
I will leave nothing else out then and hopefully let others take a look at the situation.
First, I was judging quality posts based on a loose guide. All of them are judgement calls, and I suspect if we all used the same guidelines and read the same posts, we'd come up with slightly different numbers. But it doesn't matter, I'm not trying to prove the validity of QP.
Anyway, here's the list:
QP: suggesting ways to out scum, discussing ways to out scum, voting, claiming, posts that promise analysis, posts with analysis, some clarifications, some quoting the mod, some mod questions Not QP: simple affirmative or negative (big chunk), defending yourself, unvoting, fluff, some clarifications (this is where you made the majority of your non-QP, if you're curious), some quoting the mod, some mod questions, empty promises (ie, for analysis), and the most subjective of all; other. Which basically means any post that makes me go, "DUH!" in my mind. That would have been your call out of molefan
The spirit of OP is that it is about being productive about uncovering scum. A non-OP post either doesn't have that goal, or isn't original or productive. In this theory, at least.
Before you, the average (and median) QP percentage was about 50%. The lowest was around 14% (a couple people) and the highest was 89%.
Full disclosure: Even accounting for my obvious pro-me bias, I was only 55% on this OP%.
As far as missing all of the posts by the people who voted for you, none of them posted before you in the Day 1 thread so I hadn't gotten to them yet. And Dio? Why would I be canvassing mod posts?
*Disclaimer: I do not endorse my quality post theory, I only cite it here to justify the language I used.
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Post by Holy Moley! on Mar 20, 2008 4:52:29 GMT -5
I'm not sure about "quality post theory", nor am I sure about Ryjae. Right now I'm thinking us newbs should probably stick together. It's worth mentioning, Santo-style, that when I was a wolf on another forum ("Spies 2" for those of you who know it), I never made a single fluff post - just extremely well-planned strategic lies. This was deliberate strategy and got me through nine lynches without picking up any serious suspicion or a single vote.
I'm playing devil's advocate here, but I'm doing it because Ryjae seems to me to be not so much scummy as - well, rather confused, the same as I am. I've got several people who I think are likely humans, but my "probable wolf" list remains annoyingly unpopulated right now, and I haven't had enough confidence in the two votes I've thrown to stick with 'em. (One of which was Ryjae himself, if you recall.) I'd rather not see a mass bandwagon started on a total newb who isn't au fait with the rules and conventions of how you handle yourself in a game on this forum. (Which is kinda what happened to me.) Are we going to damn him because he doesn't know how to put up a good conventional defence of the sort TD wants to see?
Bearing all that in mind, I'm going to give Ryjae a chance, which means I will NOT be voting him again this round. My two cents, make of 'em what you will.
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Post by CatInASuit on Mar 20, 2008 5:04:49 GMT -5
Well, I think I have identified about 8 townies with a couple of other likely possiblities. This is good because it means less people to look through. Something that caught my eye was the double pick up of Drainbead's post restriction. in #407 Day 1, Part 1, When it initially came up I pointed out that her posts contained no letter "b" that she had typed in Day 1. In #411: brewha comments along the same line as well. Then in #455: Hockey Monkey leaps in with a vote on drainbead because she is using "g" instead of "b". BTW: this is a real scummy vote if you ask me. Maybe my post wasn't totally clear, maybe you missed it, but really voting on this even after you searched her posts . #472: ryjae pops in with what looks like a drive-by-vote on drainbead Then there are some more back and forth about the issue. #494: ryjae unvotes after part of th discussion. #498 brewha says the following in response to ryjaeThis pinged me because brewha had already commented on this earlier and this feels like a catchup post. Then we have rysto's magic bag, and storyteller's reveal of Drainbead's name. So some questions from this. Hockey Monkey: What were you thinking when you originally voted and why did you vote for her? ryjae: Was it a drive-by vote? brewha: Why the second comment on the issue? To me it reads like you had already worked it out once and then decided to post about it again as though you were catching up on the situation. These three are currently my top suspects and will probably get my vote depending on their answers.
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Post by Drain Bead on Mar 20, 2008 6:46:41 GMT -5
CIAS, I agree with you agout Hockey Monkey, although I wonder how much OMGUS is involved in my thoughts on the matter. To me, you vote for someone if you think they're scum. I don't see how my geing forced to use G in place of that other letter makes me more likely to ge scummy. If anything, all it does is make me post less than I normally would gecause I don't want to have to think too hard agout not screwing it up.
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