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Post by RoOsh on Apr 3, 2008 17:50:23 GMT -5
Okay, I'm having trouble posting in the Day 1 thread. So yeah, I'm creating this one RIGHT AWAY.
Jeebus, that was not cool. Hopefully this message'll post.
So uh. Use me for Day III part II: The Saga Continues
Please remember that Roosh the NIGHTMOD will be gone this weekend. So send ALL NIGHT ACTIONS to Dio this one time. Thank you for your Cooperation! ~The Voices in your Head.
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Post by Boozahol Squid, P.I. on Apr 3, 2008 17:53:06 GMT -5
I don't understand what the problem was. I could search and read just fine!
New page votecount coming in a few minutes
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Post by RoOsh on Apr 3, 2008 17:54:12 GMT -5
I couldn't post in the other thread, it was massive slowdown. This one works just fine though. Better safe than sorry.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Apr 3, 2008 17:56:55 GMT -5
I was having search issues in the first thread as of a few hours ago, but I neglected to put my little comment in green.
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Post by sinjin on Apr 3, 2008 18:06:38 GMT -5
Ok, I'm having a hard time getting my mind around the Joker Rugger claim. He just oops forgot to take out the bits about being immune to a Batman Night kill? He had 24 hours to polish his post, heh, before he had to claim. He offed Koldanar because of the Koldanar/Story winkies at the end of day one? If he really thought they were buddies in Goodness why didn't he take out Story first? Story is a way more dangerous/crafty mafia player than Koldanar.
vote Santo Pygmy Joker Rugger
Oh and again I will be travelling most of the day tomorrow. Sorry.
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Post by Blaster Master on Apr 3, 2008 18:08:25 GMT -5
Okay, as for my role PM, I just checked again, and the bracketed reference to Wikipedia is not present.
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Post by sinjin on Apr 3, 2008 18:10:09 GMT -5
NETA: Oops, I don't want that to come off like I'm dissing Koldanar's mafia playing skills, which is how it comes off even to me on reread. I just meant Story has way more experience.
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Post by Darth Sensitive on Apr 3, 2008 18:12:09 GMT -5
Well, that seems a bit sketchy to me, NAF - she isn't claiming to be half of the Wesker/Scarface team, but the whole thing.
The article on wiki is at "Ventriloquist (Comics)".
It just seems like an odd nit to pick.
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Post by NAF1138 on Apr 3, 2008 18:14:54 GMT -5
Well, that seems a bit sketchy to me, NAF - she isn't claiming to be half of the Wesker/Scarface team, but the whole thing. The article on wiki is at "Ventriloquist (Comics)". It just seems like an odd nit to pick. I am just pointing out something that seems odd. And I do believe that she specifically claimed to be the Ventriloquist. But maybe I am wrong on that count.
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Post by Blaster Master on Apr 3, 2008 18:25:38 GMT -5
Also, in light of the name claims, I have to say I'm very suspicious of the Joker claim. For many of the reasons others have stated, particularly of note being that he thinks he knows who Batman is, but won't explicitly state who.
Unless he can't kill Batman if he knows who he's being targetted, what's the advantage of not telling us who Batman is? What if the person he thinks is Batman ISN'T Batman, but has some useful information to share before he dies? If a useful role is about to be lynched, he can spill his guts first, but in this case, someone will just end up dead, and that information will end up in the ethers.
Besides, without any sort of mentioning beforehand of who he's going to kill, we can't even verify he's the one that did the killing, and we can make him accountable for saying WHY he thought that person was Batman. He could just as easily be a Do-Gooder undercover, kill someone he "thinks" is Batman, then try to justify it after the fact, hoping he can get off a few extra kills before he gets lynched. Note that he claims a 50% success rate, but that the CIAS death is, at best, luck.
You also have to take into consideration that, even if he IS telling the truth, it looks like he only joins the town if he's the one who kills Batman, until then, he's essentially another Serial Killer.
Not having read through Day Two yet, that's the best lead I have, so I'll put my vote there for now.
Vote Santo Rugger
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Post by Hockey Monkey! on Apr 3, 2008 18:26:29 GMT -5
Well, that seems a bit sketchy to me, NAF - she isn't claiming to be half of the Wesker/Scarface team, but the whole thing. The article on wiki is at "Ventriloquist (Comics)". It just seems like an odd nit to pick. I am just pointing out something that seems odd. And I do believe that she specifically claimed to be the Ventriloquist. But maybe I am wrong on that count. If I recall correctly (there is no way in hell I'm searching for it) she didn't claim, but when her post restriction came to light, players assumed she was the Ventriloquist and she never contridicted them.
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Post by Darth Sensitive on Apr 3, 2008 18:28:04 GMT -5
That was midday 1, yes? Going back to look.
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Post by Rysto on Apr 3, 2008 18:29:16 GMT -5
She's claimed to be both, not just the Ventriloquist. At one point she asked Hal if any of her "other two names" were on the list.
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Post by Boozahol Squid, P.I. on Apr 3, 2008 18:32:25 GMT -5
VoteCount
Hoopy Frood 1 (Death By Irony) Blaster Master 3 (NAF1138, Hoopy Frood, Brewha) Santo Rugger 2 (sinjin, Blaster Master)
26.5 hours to go, folks.
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Post by Blaster Master on Apr 3, 2008 18:36:44 GMT -5
Well, that seems a bit sketchy to me, NAF - she isn't claiming to be half of the Wesker/Scarface team, but the whole thing. The article on wiki is at "Ventriloquist (Comics)". It just seems like an odd nit to pick. I am just pointing out something that seems odd. And I do believe that she specifically claimed to be the Ventriloquist. But maybe I am wrong on that count. To me, it seems like a fruitless discussion, but I may not have my facts straight. Apparently, we know that everyone has a cover (I think I read that at some point earlier in the Day). Was there a concensus on how much information was given for these covers? Was it just "Okay, these names are safe to claim: X, Y, Z"? Is it possible it included more information, like the whole name line, or maybe more? As for Drainbead's claim, I seem to remember Storyteller calling her out on it and asking her to verify that she was the Ventriloquist and she confirmed; I do not recall an actual copy and paste of the name from her PM, unless it occurred in Day 2.
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Post by NAF1138 on Apr 3, 2008 18:38:39 GMT -5
I am just pointing out something that seems odd. And I do believe that she specifically claimed to be the Ventriloquist. But maybe I am wrong on that count. To me, it seems like a fruitless discussion, but I may not have my facts straight. Apparently, we know that everyone has a cover (I think I read that at some point earlier in the Day). Was there a concensus on how much information was given for these covers? Was it just "Okay, these names are safe to claim: X, Y, Z"? Is it possible it included more information, like the whole name line, or maybe more? As for Drainbead's claim, I seem to remember Storyteller calling her out on it and asking her to verify that she was the Ventriloquist and she confirmed; I do not recall an actual copy and paste of the name from her PM, unless it occurred in Day 2. They were given PM's too. Kat had a full PM to quote at least. (she might have made it up, but it sounds like Roosh/Dio style and not Kat style to me)
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Apr 3, 2008 18:39:27 GMT -5
VoteCountHoopy Frood 1 (Death By Irony) Blaster Master 2 (NAF1138, Brewha) Santo Rugger 2 (sinjin, Blaster Master) 26.5 hours to go, folks. You missed my vote for Blaster Master. I believe I was #2. I have not unvoted him yet.
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Post by Darth Sensitive on Apr 3, 2008 18:40:39 GMT -5
After some dancing around the issue, DB is outed here. And she responds with this. Can't figure out how to quote it, but she does not name any of the names, just confirms the previous thoughts. And I do remember her asking hal about being named on the list.
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Post by Boozahol Squid, P.I. on Apr 3, 2008 18:41:40 GMT -5
VoteCountHoopy Frood 1 (Death By Irony) Blaster Master 2 (NAF1138, Brewha) Santo Rugger 2 (sinjin, Blaster Master) 26.5 hours to go, folks. You missed my vote for Blaster Master. I believe I was #2. I have not unvoted him yet. Thanks
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Apr 3, 2008 18:42:16 GMT -5
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Apr 3, 2008 18:44:28 GMT -5
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Post by Merestil Haye on Apr 3, 2008 18:48:04 GMT -5
Dio, I have no less than five votes for BlaM.
DarkCookies (3.412) and HockeyMonkey (3.478) also show as voted for him. I can't see an unvote for either.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Apr 3, 2008 18:50:53 GMT -5
Batman Mafia: Putting the "fun" back into FrUstratioN.
Sorry, just needed a bit of a respite from post analysis.
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Post by Boozahol Squid, P.I. on Apr 3, 2008 18:57:17 GMT -5
Dio, I have no less than five votes for BlaM. DarkCookies (3.412) and HockeyMonkey (3.478) also show as voted for him. I can't see an unvote for either. Well I didn't see those. You want me to count votes that I didn't see? How am I supposed to know you're not making those numbers up? New, Official, Revised, Maybe This Time It's Right VoteCountHoopy Frood 1 (Death By Irony) Blaster Master 5 (NAF1138, Hoopy Frood, Brewha,ComeSide, Homonk) Santo Rugger 2 (sinjin, Blaster Master)
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Post by Death By Irony on Apr 3, 2008 19:00:46 GMT -5
I'm going to reread how ryjae claimed, to see if there was any Day-gap between when he partially claimed and then pasted a role PM. Half of me is thinking that something doesn't add up, while the other half is thinking that this could be a case of reality being stranger than fiction.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Apr 3, 2008 19:25:08 GMT -5
Brewha: Day 2
Quotes Rysto's post (http://psychopathgame.proboards106.com/index.cgi?board=tempy&action=display&thread=295&page=15#19398) where Rysto claims that there was no case against CIAS and lists the bandwagon of those who voted for him and the posts when they did so. Counters that he had a reason for the vote (CIAS seemed to be flinging poo everywhere in hopes that it woud stick, particularly on Hockey Monkey) and even said so earlier, but Rysto's link didn't show the post. Follows up with question asking Rysto if he was trying to lie or just didn't follow the reasoning.
Links to post he quoted above.
After Hal revisits the issue of "The List", mentions that at this point there is no benefit to claim since we now know scum have fake roles anyway. [Note that we don't know Hal's power yet, which is why we decided toDay to go with the claim].
Realizes after above post that Story said the same thing while he was making his post.
Suggests that if we do name-claim, NAF and Mole refrain from it, so as not to out any other masons.
Responds to Rysto's earlier response to his first post of this day. Rysto had looked at an earlier post. Brewha points out that he added more content on a post that came right afterwards. [See day 1 analysis for the original two posts in question.]
Lists scenarios for why Story is opposed to mass claim. Story is either hiding something, on our side whereas Hal isn't, or is paranoid. Leans towards second case. Think do-gooders would want to know who is who. Has plan that Hal should mention the role that masons would have, and have one of the masons confirm it. On preview, sees that idea has been thrown out already, but still echoes that its a good one for at least making it less likely that Hal is against us
Rysto: Realizes that he missed why Brewha voted CIAS and confirms that the reasoning was solid enough. Still suspicious of everyone else who voted that way
Realizes that Rysto is on to something. Says he'll go back and look at those who voted with him.
Mentions how he thinks Zuma's been drunk.
Posts his analysis of the other votes against CIAS. Can't figure out why TDPatriots voted. Thinks maybe to side with Kat who was dead scum at this point. Says it looks good for Cat's towniness.
After Rysto mentions that Cat could have been playing for keeps, Brewha states that it's a good point and he should have said that it means Cat is less apt to be scum.
Wonders if the taking attendance part of the intro to the Day has any significance, since someone might have noticed the Bat missing as he threw the repellent.
After Sinjin reveals the attempted kill on her, says he has no problems voting Cat again, but will wait until later so as not to trigger the countdown clock as he sees no advantage to it. [Probably the advantage thing is a reference to my pondering about if it was away to avoid the Joker kill.]
Clarifies wording in above post
Believes Cat should be chaired because he's either a dangeorus pro-town vig or an anti-town something. Accidentally replaces Cats' name with Sinjin at one point.
Adds that on the other hand, Cat's been posting a lot of analysis. Figures it'd be too much effort for scum, and think Cat might be town.
Ponders why Great White Shark would be after NAF. If GWS is a baddie, why would a mason need protection from him. Thinks that maybe GWS knows something town doesn't. Description of GWS wouldn't imply that he works with the do-gooders, but he could be PFK. Mentions the came is confusing. [Of course, now we know that no one has claimed GWS.]
Answers Cat's question as to why he originally thought (i.e. Day 1) HM was town. (HM was first to post alignment.) Realizes that that is no longer the case since scum have fake claims.
Cat: Zuma was first to claim alignment, and Brewha even commented on that fact earlier. The reason others thought HM was a town was because of the "definitely a baddie" thing. Brewha's vote seems opportunistic.
Responds that this why he needs to trudge through posts before commenting. Realizes that it wasn't the alignment itself, but the "definitely a baddie" line. HM was the first to post it, and it matched what he had. Quotes post where Cat mentioned this fact as well, yet still voted for HM. Says he was quite comfortable with where his vote was. Says there's nothing else to see with his analysis of HM. Says he didn't write anything down since it was Day 1. He did similar things with others people.
Mentions that before Cat points it out, he is aware Cat later unvoted, but he still thinks his actions reeked of scum.
After Cat's coded claim, asks Rysto how he's sure Cat is Hush. The post was decoded to be Vig, but he doesn't recall any name claim.
Realizes his mistake when a few people point out all the breadcrumbs from both Cat and HM.
Fluff about Zuma's craziness.
More fluff. (Plus four more in the DayFluff thread.)
Can't figure out Zuma. Decides not to waste anymore time on him. Not sure where he stands with Cat. Rather have him chaired then vigging town every night. [He's currently under the impression that Cat must kill.] Thinks a block is in order. Says that maybe someone could "freeze" him. [At this point, I hadn't role-claimed, but it's not as if you all didn't figure I was a blocker anyway.] Mentions he's going to examine the case against Atarus since it has some valid points.
Cookies: According to the quoted PM, there is no requirement for cat to kill.
Says if above post is true, than either Cat or Sinjin need a lynchin'. Could see the attack if Cat had to kill or knew something about Sinjin, but if not, than Cat is dangerous and needs to claim his role [At this point, many of us, myself included, believed the part about losing Vig power if a role-claim was done] so he loses his powers, or he must die.
Hoopy Frood: Cat did claim. Vig is no more.
Taking that into consideration, he decides to finish examining Atarus and then move on to tdpatriots. Hopes to get a vote in by the end of the Day.
Decides to vote Atarus. Willing to believe (for now) that Cat is no longer a threat. Pretty much admits that he's bandwagoning off of Storyteller on the vote. Admits that it's horrible but he's got nothing else. Realizes that his vote doesn't mean much, but wants to avoid a last minute switch.
[End Day 2]
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Apr 3, 2008 19:41:40 GMT -5
Day 3 [Thank God!]: Sinjin: Wonders if anyone has anything to say about Brewha's funky posts from the previous Day.[No post on Monday] Fluff about the April Fool. Asks Sinjin to clarify. Sinjin: [Fuck it. Read her post here--it's easy enough to follow: psychopathgame.proboards106.com/index.cgi?board=tempy&action=display&thread=310&page=6#21066 ] Explains that what he was getting at was that if Cat had to kill every night, his attack on Sinjin meant one of them should die. Either Cat is dangerous for town, or he knew something about Sinjin making her dangerous. Also, never confused the two, although he did accidentally put Sinjin's name where Cat's should have been. Asks Blaster to explain more since Zuma has pinged just about everybody. Name claims. Wonders why "gastard" shows up in Santo's claim. [Later confirmed that it's a board filter.] Fluffing gastard. Fluff more. Votes Blaster here: psychopathgame.proboards106.com/index.cgi?board=tempy&action=display&thread=310&page=17#21434So in summary, I really haven't found anything that jumps out as scummy. All errors are easily and believably explainable. I'm willing to put him firmly in the town camp. If you think otherwise, feel free to comment.
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Post by Hal Briston on Apr 3, 2008 20:30:40 GMT -5
Except for A) his name appearing on the list, and B) the Wiki stuff I put in that linked post, I know nothing about GWS. His presence was just a guess, based on the whole "shark-proof-NAF" bit. As for NPCs, geez, I sure as hell hope not. Keep in mind that the list is a full 50% longer that the list of players, so there's a lot of dead space there.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Apr 3, 2008 20:54:55 GMT -5
Well, by NPC, I didn't mean actual beings we have to lynch; I was thinking more along the lines of avatars of one-shots. The frozen shark clearly means something. I'm just curious if we're going to see some of those other unclaimed names show up as attackers under direction of the Bat.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Apr 3, 2008 20:56:31 GMT -5
*Mumbles something about stupid extra apostrophes*
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