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Post by storyteller0910 on Apr 4, 2008 13:54:18 GMT -5
Then will you address my post at #117, in which I indicate that unless you are lying about that, your threat to take out a Town power role if you're lynched would appear to be a complete bluff? I thought I already did? I'd rather stay alive longer and play, than to win in a month and quit playing right now. Selfish? Yes. But I'm playing for keeps, baby! Selfish is my middle name. Joker "Selfish" Rugger. Ah, but you're missing the essence of it. Once you're lynched, those are no longer your choices. You can threaten us with anything you like, but if we decide to lynch you the option to stay alive longer and play is no longer around. At that moment, whatever you say right now, your choices will be: (1) Shoot for the Bat, and have a chance to win; (2) Shoot for a Town power role, just to be contrary. I realize you're trying to convince us that you'd go for #2, but I simply don't believe you. I played scum with you once, remember? You're a competitor and you want to win. If there's a way for you to win, you'll shoot for it until it's gone, even if you die in the process. So either you don't really change alignment as you say, or you'll play pro-Town when you're lynched even if you say you won't. However, your comments on me and NAF led me to the end of Day One, where I had been hoping to end up anyway, and I'm noting something of interest, so more from me later.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Apr 4, 2008 13:54:48 GMT -5
SR's kill limiter is postcounts. In any given Day, he can't kill anyone who posted more times than he has (aggregated over all threads). Day 1 NAF posted 115 times, Story 98, Santo R 95 and Rysto 92. Guess who had the highest postcount on Day 2. And Day 3 so far. Ding ding ding ding. I usually post a LOT, but not this much!
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Post by Santo Rugger on Apr 4, 2008 13:55:10 GMT -5
Especially not to just less than fluff.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Apr 4, 2008 13:55:22 GMT -5
Or to fart. *fart*
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Post by storyteller0910 on Apr 4, 2008 13:55:59 GMT -5
SR's kill limiter is postcounts. In any given Day, he can't kill anyone who posted more times than he has (aggregated over all threads). Day 1 NAF posted 115 times, Story 98, Santo R 95 and Rysto 92. Guess who had the highest postcount on Day 2. And Day 3 so far. Bravo! And a really fun gimmick from the Mods, by the way, to keep Rugger from just hanging back and trying to duck attention for an entire game. He could have played that way, but he wouldn't have been able to kill anyone. Neat.
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Post by Darth Sensitive on Apr 4, 2008 13:56:26 GMT -5
How the hell did you figure that out? I believe you - sounds pretty good. Just the counters aren't resetting. And santo has seem a bit heavy on the short. choppy. samethoughtover. multiple. posts.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Apr 4, 2008 13:56:26 GMT -5
Yep.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Apr 4, 2008 13:56:50 GMT -5
Pretty neat.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Apr 4, 2008 13:56:58 GMT -5
Don't ya think?
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Post by storyteller0910 on Apr 4, 2008 13:57:12 GMT -5
What just happened to the thread? Mine is displaying weird now.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Apr 4, 2008 13:57:14 GMT -5
Okay, that's obnoxious.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Apr 4, 2008 13:57:24 GMT -5
I'll stop now.
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Post by Boozahol Squid, P.I. on Apr 4, 2008 13:57:33 GMT -5
SR's kill limiter is postcounts. In any given Day, he can't kill anyone who posted more times than he has (aggregated over all threads). Day 1 NAF posted 115 times, Story 98, Santo R 95 and Rysto 92. Guess who had the highest postcount on Day 2. And Day 3 so far. Now come on... you think we mods would be so gastardly as to encourage Santo to post more? I mean, that'd be pretty fucking gastardish....
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Post by ryjae on Apr 4, 2008 13:58:42 GMT -5
Mine is doing the same thing it was doing the day the board went down. Displaying custom away/here tags under the avatars. And loading slower than SDMB.
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Post by Blaster Master on Apr 4, 2008 13:59:22 GMT -5
SR's kill limiter is postcounts. In any given Day, he can't kill anyone who posted more times than he has (aggregated over all threads). Day 1 NAF posted 115 times, Story 98, Santo R 95 and Rysto 92. Guess who had the highest postcount on Day 2. And Day 3 so far. That sounds quite feasible, especially in the light of his clues. Oh well, don't matter.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Apr 4, 2008 14:04:03 GMT -5
<snip>Oh well, don't matter. Doesn't matter. Oh, and story, you forget that when we played scum and I wanted to win, I had obligations to my teammates. This time, not so much.
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Post by Blaster Master on Apr 4, 2008 14:05:43 GMT -5
Hey I've got a great idea, it's about 6 hours to the end of the Day, right? I'll open a new thread and just post every minute until the end of the Day and I'll just barely edge out Joker, assuming he doesn't post anymore, even in light of that plan. Sound like a good idea guys?
Either way, seriously, I think Storyteller is right. It looks like Joker is going down today, so the extortion aspect isn't really relevant, and even if it is, it wouldn't make sense to forego a small chance of victory just to piss people off.
So... assuming you're not lying to us, should we try further to reduce the options to maximize everyone's win conditions?
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Post by Blaster Master on Apr 4, 2008 14:07:41 GMT -5
<snip>Oh well, don't matter. Doesn't matter. So you're not really the joker, you the Grammar Nazi! I reserve the right to abuse grammar, particularly when it's deliberate, as was the case there... it just fits better.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Apr 4, 2008 14:08:12 GMT -5
BlaM, don't be rude, I promised OOG that I'd tell the truth about what my condition was. Oh, and if you want to keep me from killing you today, you have to do it in this thread... even the Dayfluff thread Dio started wouldn't count. He called me on that one right away when I tried to boost my counts in there.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Apr 4, 2008 14:09:13 GMT -5
Doesn't matter. So you're not really the joker, you the Grammar Nazi! I reserve the right to abuse grammar, particularly when it's deliberate, as was the case there... it just fits better. No it don't.
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Post by Boozahol Squid, P.I. on Apr 4, 2008 14:09:38 GMT -5
Hey I've got a great idea, it's about 6 hours to the end of the Day, right? I'll open a new thread and just post every minute until the end of the Day and I'll just barely edge out Joker, assuming he doesn't post anymore, even in light of that plan. Sound like a good idea guys? You really ought to do it in this thread. Posts in fluff threads don't count towards game-thread conditions.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Apr 4, 2008 14:10:23 GMT -5
You know, there's really no reason to be cryptic. Here's the interesting thing I noticed:
With five minutes to go in Day One, kassia was leading in the voting 5-4-4. Here was the vote count from Diomedes:
Color mine. Shortly thereafter, Koldanar and I both added onto the Kat wagon. Hawkeyeop briefly voted and unvoted Kat during that time, but his posts seemed kind of time-shifted during that time - I think he kept making posts, trying to catch up, and then falling behind while he posted again.
With Kat in the lead, Klutz and then Rysto added votes, sealing her fate.
Key point is this: at the moment Kat took the lead, there were six votes on her:
diggitcamara (now mhaye) NAF (Mason, not a Do-Gooder) CatinaSuit (SK, not a Do-Gooder) Santo Rugger (Survivor, not a Do-Gooder) storyteller0910 (not a Do-Gooder, though obviously from your perspective this is not confirmed) Koldanar (Bane, not a Do-Gooder)
One of these things is not like the other. I don't know what this means, but it's certainly of interest. Hm.
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Post by Blaster Master on Apr 4, 2008 14:12:20 GMT -5
BlaM, don't be rude, I promised OOG that I'd tell the truth about what my condition was. Oh, and if you want to keep me from killing you today, you have to do it in this thread... even the Dayfluff thread Dio started wouldn't count. He called me on that one right away when I tried to boost my counts in there. Why can't I be rude? Surely, compare to zuma, I'm an angel. ;D And, as I said, I'm not worried about you killing me. If you're telling the truth, it'd be foolish of you to do so. And if the Riddler or Two-Face doesn't investigate me tonight and clear me, chances are I'm probably right back on the chopping block Tomorrow anyway, so... eh...
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Post by Blaster Master on Apr 4, 2008 14:13:58 GMT -5
You really ought to do it in this thread. Posts in fluff threads don't count towards game-thread conditions. FWIW, I wasn't serious. Spending 6 hours making fluff posts every minute isn't exactly how I'd like to spend my Friday evening.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Apr 4, 2008 14:18:46 GMT -5
So does anybody have a hint on who I should take out tonight? Scummy poos wanna give up their daddy poo? You really ought to do it in this thread. Posts in fluff threads don't count towards game-thread conditions. FWIW, I wasn't serious. Spending 6 hours making fluff posts every minute isn't exactly how I'd like to spend my Friday evening. You can post more than once a minute on this board. Guess how I found that out? ;D
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Apr 4, 2008 14:22:16 GMT -5
Now come on... you think we mods would be so gastardly as to encourage Santo to post more? Yes. (Don't smite me for that.)
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Post by storyteller0910 on Apr 4, 2008 14:25:01 GMT -5
Fuck. You know, now I'm really pissed off that I spent this whole day two-stepping with the Joker. Something happened on Day One.
Kat got a vote from diggit, and followed-up, essentially, twice. Because of the way the search function now works, I can't figure out how they fell into context. diggit's general lack of participation during the first Day also complicates things. But there are two possibilities:
1. He was scum, starting a legit-seeming attack on a fellow scum, knowing that it would probably blow over (and that even if it didn't, he could get some Townie cred for it later).
2. He was not scum, just quiet.
I don't know which. What I know is that after his vote, the next five votes on the Kat bandwagon - the ones that killed her - were all Townies.
Then there were two coup de grace votes - Rysto and Captain Klutz (now Darth Sensitive).
So here's the question, boys and girls:
Do we believe that the scum - on Day One, when they hadn't yet had a chance to discuss strategy - collectively decided to allow one of their own to die without a single one of them on the bandwagon?
I don't. And so I think it likely that one of those three - mhaye, Rysto, or Captain Klutz (and maybe two or even all three) - is a Do-Gooder. Thoughts?
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Apr 4, 2008 14:27:42 GMT -5
I don't. And so I think it likely that one of those three - mhaye, Rysto, or Captain Klutz (and maybe two or even all three) - is a Do-Gooder. Thoughts? I already expressed my suspicions of Klutz in the analysis posts I did of him.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Apr 4, 2008 14:33:12 GMT -5
What's coup de grace mean?
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Post by Rysto on Apr 4, 2008 14:35:18 GMT -5
Do we know this for a fact?
Anyway, if memory serves, we were at an utter loss to find a lynch candidate Day One. So I find it quite unlikely that scum would risk starting a bandwagon just to gain some Townie cred.
I'm not scum, so I turn by eye to Klutz/Darth.
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