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Post by NAF1138 on Apr 21, 2008 15:04:11 GMT -5
Smurf said that there were three left after the Joker died. Which, at that point, was true. But I think this is all generally correct. So you're confirming that there is exactly one PFK left? I read what you originally said that his "3" came from a misunderstanding that the Penguin didn't count as a Mason, and so the actual number at that time was 4, which is why I thought there are still 2 left being that only two PFKs have died SINCE Joker was alive, which leaves 2. So, to avoid any further confusion about what numbers are claimed when... let's just ask the simple question. According to your powers, and your deductions based on the deaths since, how many PFKs are you claiming are left right now? My belief is that there is one left, based on my understanding of my PM. It is possible that there are none left, if the mods were being bastards and not counting me as a mason, but my belief is that there is one left. 5 started the game, and 4 have been killed.
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Post by Holy Moley! on Apr 21, 2008 15:05:27 GMT -5
For the record, as far as "believing the Masons" goes, I believe my fellow Masons are telling the truth about this PFK thing, but I've got no independant evidence of it myself. What you really mean, I think, is "believing Smurf".
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Post by Holy Moley! on Apr 21, 2008 15:09:32 GMT -5
Oh, and evidently NAF, from above post.
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Post by NAF1138 on Apr 21, 2008 15:14:18 GMT -5
Also, this is just to mole sorry folks, but I can't post to him on the mason boards and he is yelling at me for claiming.
I read what you wrote after I posted my claim, sorry. I think just straight up claiming was the better way to go anyway.
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Post by Darth Sensitive on Apr 21, 2008 15:17:36 GMT -5
Oh good god, I have what is potentially the most idiotic power in the game and the masons are getting flack because we were trying to keep me alive. This is stupid. I am the penguin. Let's talk, what do you want to know, I will be totally straight with you. I think if you look at my posts you will see that I knew all the info Dark Smuf claimed before he posted it. I didn't think it would be that hard to find if you were actually looking. As for why the lie, if you can't figure out that it was important to set up the vanilla mason as the taget for scum instead of the only mason who has a power, than you are all idiots. As for BlaM's question, I can not talk to the pirates. I never said any differently and it is the truth. The pirates can, however, talk to each other and I have access to their boards. If I talk to the masons I lose my powers for a Day/Night cycle. I did at one point pop onto the mason boards to share my information with them in case I died (that's how smurf got his info.) At the time the most recent news I had recieved was that PFK's were currently at the same number as masons and that Do Gooders outnumbered PFK's.Since then I have learned that there are no more bonus Night Kills and that batman has a utility belt and is causing the post restrictions. (It has a batarang and the Shark repelant.) The info I learn is dumb, but slightly usefull. I think we can use it to confirm BlaM and DBI and Brewha as not Batman (yay ) You are being flipping idiots for getting so hung up on this. (my emphasis) See... stuff like this is why it's rather fuckin' hard to trust our 'pirates'. Mole did NAF share the evidence on your board or not?
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Post by Darth Sensitive on Apr 21, 2008 15:18:35 GMT -5
I did at one point pop onto the mason boards to share my information with them in case I died (that's how smurf got his info.) At the time the most recent news I had recieved was that PFK's were currently at the same number as masons and that Do Gooders outnumbered PFK's.
This is what I tried to emphasize.
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Post by NAF1138 on Apr 21, 2008 15:20:59 GMT -5
I did at one point pop onto the mason boards to share my information with them in case I died (that's how smurf got his info.) At the time the most recent news I had recieved was that PFK's were currently at the same number as masons and that Do Gooders outnumbered PFK's.This is what I tried to emphasize. Yeah, you have to use underline if you are quoting. In case you didn't follow, mole seemed to have skimmed over my claim and assumed that we were continuing to try to hide the penguin's true identity. I think that is a bad idea at this juncture anyway, but I posted my claim before I even read his plan.
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Post by Rysto on Apr 21, 2008 15:23:32 GMT -5
Are you guys using IE or something? I can see the bolding in the quote tags just fine.
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Post by Darth Sensitive on Apr 21, 2008 15:24:34 GMT -5
In Firefox 2.0.0.14 I can't.
What does FOA mean again?
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Post by Rysto on Apr 21, 2008 15:25:32 GMT -5
First of all.
Strange, I'm also running Firefox 2.0.0.14, but under Linux. You'd think that wouldn't make a difference.
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Post by Blaster Master on Apr 21, 2008 15:37:24 GMT -5
Yes, FOA = First of All
I'm using IE7 and while the bolding isn't AS clear as it normally is (which I think is mostly a biproduct of the smaller text) it IS there. Hmm...
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Post by Holy Moley! on Apr 21, 2008 16:00:35 GMT -5
I did at one point pop onto the mason boards to share my information with them in case I died (that's how smurf got his info.) At the time the most recent news I had recieved was that PFK's were currently at the same number as masons and that Do Gooders outnumbered PFK's.This is what I tried to emphasize. NAF, I didn't even realise at that point that you had claimed. All I saw before I posted on the (now one-man) Mason's board was your last post. So to clarify: - Yes, the Masons have a private board. - Yes, part of NAF's role is a posting restriction. It doesn't affect us pirates, but it does affect the Penguin. I'm not altogether au fait with the rules, but my understanding is that if NAF wishes to communicate privately with the Masons, he loses those handy PMs of his for a day. This may not be accurate - NAF himself could confirm. Right now, since NAF can't post on the private board, I'm pretty much alone there with Cookies and Smurf gone. - Yes, I can confirm that NAF posted on that private board to give Smurf some information that Smurf then posted publicly, in the interests of keeping NAF's identity a secret. Again, I didn't take much notice of the details of this at the time, simply because I had no particular need to, so feel free to pick at it. FTR I don't think this claim was necessary with nobody actually voting the Masons, but it hardly matters now. I'm still voting Darth, although I'd be happy with a TDPats lynch at the moment. That said, if Darth isn't a do-gooder, I'm going home right now, because after his vote for me - immediately following two other Masons being confirmed as town - not to mention his reaction to my calling out the scum, I simply don't believe a word he says.
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Post by NAF1138 on Apr 21, 2008 16:04:40 GMT -5
FTR I don't think this claim was necessary with nobody actually voting the Masons, but it hardly matters now. . You are probably right, and it might have been a mistake on my part. I am willing to shoulder that. I think if I hadn't claimed things would have just spiraled further out of control. Wish we were allowed to discuss it before hand, but that's how it goes I guess.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Apr 21, 2008 17:09:41 GMT -5
And to Hoopy, how's about a big hearty Fuck You! Insulting my intelligence like that is completely unnecessary. It's one thing to point out flaws in my logic, it's something completely different to patronize me like that. Well, except for the fact that I've only mentioned the 1 PFK left and how I arrived at that number earlier here: psychopathgame.proboards106.com/index.cgi?board=tempy&action=display&thread=325&page=4#23006And I also mentioned it in a previous post here: psychopathgame.proboards106.com/index.cgi?board=tempy&action=display&thread=325&page=3#23004And then, in my first post of the day, I give a breakdown of the situation based on the assumption of Rysto telling the truth. Where I indeed, mention for the first time, that there is only 1 PFK. (To be fair, this one came before the confusion started.) Now, each of your posts concerning more than 2 PFK's comes after my posts where I say there isn't. And I explain why. So after already twice saying there's only 1 PFK, and explaining how that is, you still ignore me and go on with your 2 PFK thing. So I think I'm allowed to call you out on it. Either you're intentionally ignoring what I'm writing for some reason I'd like you to state, in which case Fuck You and the Horse you rode in on. Or you're skimming, in which case Fuck You anyway. (By the way, I hear skimming is a scum tell, but this is my first game, so I don't know from personal experience. And yes, that is a smudge.) I won't insult your intelligence if you don't insult mine. You disagree with something I post, address me directly. Don't dismiss it and go off on your own little fixation. I expect better from someone who has such issues with people insisting he's Batman because they aren't paying attention.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Apr 21, 2008 17:13:37 GMT -5
NETA: And since you seem to disagree, lynching tdpatriots will out scum. I don't care what his defense is. It's irrelevant. Either Rysto is scum, or he is. His lynch reveals this. He claimed PFK, so town is not going to be lynching town. This is pretty much the only guarantee we have to not lynch town, plus we get scum either dead or exposed. Do you really have a better situation to present than that one? Is there anyone else you are sure we can lynch without risking lynching town? Please present it if you truly have town's best interests in mind.
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Post by sinjin on Apr 21, 2008 17:43:39 GMT -5
Felicitations NAF: Can you please share with us the tidbits of information you got on days 1-6 including on what days you got them. I am trying to update my score-card.
Sincerely;
sinjin
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Post by sinjin on Apr 21, 2008 17:55:00 GMT -5
hawkeyeop:
And in the month we have been playing it never occurred to you to ask the mods for clarification?
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Post by Rysto on Apr 21, 2008 18:00:27 GMT -5
DBI, what's taking so long? Copy-and-paste your Role PM. The longer you take, the more it looks like you're fabricating a claim.
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Post by NAF1138 on Apr 21, 2008 18:07:03 GMT -5
Felicitations NAF: Can you please share with us the tidbits of information you got on days 1-6 including on what days you got them. I am trying to update my score-card. Sincerely; sinjin Sure thing, I will even make sure I have the PM up while I recap the info (for extra accuracy). It is a morning power so all of these are thing technically occuring durring the Day, but just after the Dawn post is when I usually get the PM. Day 1: Don't kill me, and don't berate the pirates because they didn't know, I didn't tell them, but we did have an alternate win condition. If all of us survived endgame we would win on our own. As it is, with us claiming on Day 1 that wasn't going to happen, so I figured it didn't really matter. Now 2 of us are dead, it is actually impossible, we win with the town anyway. Again, I kept this to myself. So don't go blaming the pirates, as far as they knew they were 100% loyal town. Day 2:The Do Gooders and their goons have many disguises. I was trying to get the info out there without saying how, so I wrapped everything into that one action. Something I immediatly came to regret doing, but at that point I was still hoping to get some really useful information and didn't want to risk getting killed. Day 3: PFK numbers that has been gone over ad nauseum Day 4: Nothing, I talked to the masons Day 3 instead Day 5: I found out that there were no more extra killings to be done, it was just Do Gooders vs. the lynch. Day 6 (today): I found out about Batmans utility belt. I already explained it, but for completeness Batman has three things in the belt. An unknown canister, Shark repelant, and a Batarang. That's everything I know.
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Post by Hawkmod on Apr 21, 2008 18:07:42 GMT -5
hawkeyeop: And in the month we have been playing it never occurred to you to ask the mods for clarification? Who says I didn't? They didn't exactly clarify.
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Post by Darth Sensitive on Apr 21, 2008 18:14:06 GMT -5
Felicitations NAF: Can you please share with us the tidbits of information you got on days 1-6 including on what days you got them. I am trying to update my score-card. Sincerely; sinjin Sure thing, I will even make sure I have the PM up while I recap the info (for extra accuracy). It is a morning power so all of these are thing technically occuring durring the Day, but just after the Dawn post is when I usually get the PM. [glow=green,2,300] Day 1: Don't kill me, and don't berate the pirates because they didn't know, I didn't tell them, but we did have an alternate win condition. If all of us survived endgame we would win on our own. As it is, with us claiming on Day 1 that wasn't going to happen, so I figured it didn't really matter. Now 2 of us are dead, it is actually impossible, we win with the town anyway. [/glow] Again, I kept this to myself. So don't go blaming the pirates, as far as they knew they were 100% loyal town. Day 2:The Do Gooders and their goons have many disguises. I was trying to get the info out there without saying how, so I wrapped everything into that one action. Something I immediatly came to regret doing, but at that point I was still hoping to get some really useful information and didn't want to risk getting killed. Day 3: PFK numbers that has been gone over ad nauseum Day 4: Nothing, I talked to the masons Day 3 instead Day 5: I found out that there were no more extra killings to be done, it was just Do Gooders vs. the lynch. Day 6 (today): I found out about Batmans utility belt. I already explained it, but for completeness Batman has three things in the belt. An unknown canister, Shark repelant, and a Batarang. That's everything I know. Sigh.
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Post by NAF1138 on Apr 21, 2008 18:19:51 GMT -5
Sure thing, I will even make sure I have the PM up while I recap the info (for extra accuracy). It is a morning power so all of these are thing technically occuring durring the Day, but just after the Dawn post is when I usually get the PM. [glow=green,2,300] Day 1: Don't kill me, and don't berate the pirates because they didn't know, I didn't tell them, but we did have an alternate win condition. If all of us survived endgame we would win on our own. As it is, with us claiming on Day 1 that wasn't going to happen, so I figured it didn't really matter. Now 2 of us are dead, it is actually impossible, we win with the town anyway. [/glow] Again, I kept this to myself. So don't go blaming the pirates, as far as they knew they were 100% loyal town. Day 2:The Do Gooders and their goons have many disguises. I was trying to get the info out there without saying how, so I wrapped everything into that one action. Something I immediatly came to regret doing, but at that point I was still hoping to get some really useful information and didn't want to risk getting killed. Day 3: PFK numbers that has been gone over ad nauseum Day 4: Nothing, I talked to the masons Day 3 instead Day 5: I found out that there were no more extra killings to be done, it was just Do Gooders vs. the lynch. Day 6 (today): I found out about Batmans utility belt. I already explained it, but for completeness Batman has three things in the belt. An unknown canister, Shark repelant, and a Batarang. That's everything I know. Sigh. Hey, they didn't need to know and I didn't want to know. As far as I was concerned we have always been going for the town win. It is a silly and neigh on impossible win condition for us to achive anyway, and there is no percentage in going for the solo win. A win is a win is a win, why struggle to keep all 4 of us alive just so we can shut you guys out of it? Anyway, I think the fact that Cookies opted out of the game and chose a mod kill rather than limp along with minimal participation is a good indicator that the pirtates didn't know anything about it.
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Post by Darth Sensitive on Apr 21, 2008 18:53:47 GMT -5
I strongly suspect that the rest of the pirates didn't know, but this alternate win condition is something I think I'd rather have been wrong about. It's given me one more reason to stick my head out the window to double check that the sky is blue if you say that, at a point when trust is all important to the town.
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Post by NAF1138 on Apr 21, 2008 18:55:39 GMT -5
Fair enough Darth. But tell me honestly, if you knew that there was no chance of fulfilling the win condition (which there wasn't) would you have done any differnently in my place?
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Post by Rysto on Apr 21, 2008 18:56:56 GMT -5
Fair enough Darth. But tell me honestly, if you knew that there was no chance of fulfilling the win condition (which there wasn't) would you have done any differnently in my place? If I were in the same position, I'd keep my mouth shut.
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Post by sinjin on Apr 21, 2008 19:11:51 GMT -5
I'm still a little stunned by NAF's revelation. Nope, not mentioning the post in the night thread, nope, nope, nope. So on to other things while that gets digested. hawkeyeop: sinjin: hawkeyeop: So which is it? An educated guess? Or you asked the mods to clarify whether or not you would get results on Do-gooders who were not Batman and they said......? Feel free to paraphrase.
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Post by Darth Sensitive on Apr 21, 2008 19:19:48 GMT -5
Fair enough Darth. But tell me honestly, if you knew that there was no chance of fulfilling the win condition (which there wasn't) would you have done any differnently in my place? I don't think I would have mentioned it at all. I would have made that nut over there ranting and raving about the possibilities of an alternate win condition out to be the fool that he is.
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Post by Darth Sensitive on Apr 21, 2008 19:22:05 GMT -5
Oh... and molefan, get off your high horse. I was right.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Apr 21, 2008 20:00:35 GMT -5
And just to clarify, Blam the swearing in my large size post wasn't directed at you, and if you thought it was, I apologize. I was swearing for effect because everyone else was. The last paragraph was directed at everyone in general (Damn right bitches! I was cussin' at all you mofos!)
But yeah, the ignoring my posts thing was annoying, and I stand by my calling you out on it.
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Post by Hawkmod on Apr 21, 2008 20:11:53 GMT -5
I'm still a little stunned by NAF's revelation. Nope, not mentioning the post in the night thread, nope, nope, nope. So on to other things while that gets digested. hawkeyeop: sinjin: hawkeyeop: So which is it? An educated guess? Or you asked the mods to clarify whether or not you would get results on Do-gooders who were not Batman and they said......? Feel free to paraphrase. I sent them my theory and asked if it was a fair assumption. They said, more or less, that it was a nice theory, but failed to confirm or deny the theory's accuracy.
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