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Day Two
Sept 12, 2009 12:42:19 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Sept 12, 2009 12:42:19 GMT -5
You wanna tell me how it's a "throw away vote"? i'll tell you how it's a throw away vote. Day one you end up with votes on squiddy, me and natlaw. squiddy was admitted something. me because of the multi vote thing. natty because of, it appears, a bad quote reference. 1=1=1. so we are all in the same boat as far as your votes go. toDay we get a vote on cias and a vote on blockey. now there is no discussion about whether pede is full of anything or regarding that it appears that blockey is gonna drink his kool aid like squiddy. 1=1. they are both in the same boat. now my position has not changed regarding your reason for voting me yesterDay. matter of fact i think you are proving my point. but yet, no vote so far. that's why it looks like a toss away to me. it has the same weight as the vote for someone who looks scummier. non accountability is a good place for non town aligned to be.
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Day Two
Sept 12, 2009 12:44:07 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Sept 12, 2009 12:44:07 GMT -5
and btw this is a smudge.
blockey agreed with you regarding multi votes.
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Day Two
Sept 12, 2009 16:40:25 GMT -5
Post by bufftabby on Sept 12, 2009 16:40:25 GMT -5
You wanna tell me how it's a "throw away vote"? i'll tell you how it's a throw away vote. Day one you end up with votes on squiddy, me and natlaw. squiddy was admitted something. me because of the multi vote thing. natty because of, it appears, a bad quote reference. 1=1=1. so we are all in the same boat as far as your votes go. toDay we get a vote on cias and a vote on blockey. now there is no discussion about whether pede is full of anything or regarding that it appears that blockey is gonna drink his kool aid like squiddy. 1=1. they are both in the same boat. now my position has not changed regarding your reason for voting me yesterDay. matter of fact i think you are proving my point. but yet, no vote so far. that's why it looks like a toss away to me. it has the same weight as the vote for someone who looks scummier. non accountability is a good place for non town aligned to be. I find them both pretty scummy, so I'm voting for both of them. Until we're in a situation where there's two folks neck in neck and I'm voting for them both, your accusations and smudges are pretty well baseless. How do I lack accountability, when I'm willing to put my suspicions down permanently, and yet you are not? You can say I lack accountability as much as you like, that doesn't make it true.
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Day Two
Sept 12, 2009 17:30:39 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Sept 12, 2009 17:30:39 GMT -5
but yet, my position has not changed. i was scummy yesterday and today miraculaously i have been healed?
and what about sister? you don't find her comment regarding others scummy? i ask merely for the threshhold that you are using. not unreasonable, methinks. for if the tab is to set a benchmark does it not seem equitable that us lesser players should be made aware in order to endeavor to meet said benchmark?
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Day Two
Sept 12, 2009 17:37:09 GMT -5
Post by bufftabby on Sept 12, 2009 17:37:09 GMT -5
Just how many votes would you like me to have on the table, then, peek? You can't seem to decide.
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Sept 12, 2009 18:08:55 GMT -5
Post by Death By Irony on Sept 12, 2009 18:08:55 GMT -5
Okay, so I guess pedescribe is claiming either Witch or Seer and that Blocky came up Undead in last Night's investigation. Here's hoping that Blocky doesn't have a short fuse. vote Blocky
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Day Two
Sept 12, 2009 18:52:49 GMT -5
Post by Trepa Mayfield on Sept 12, 2009 18:52:49 GMT -5
Okay, so I guess pedescribe is claiming either Witch or Seer and that Blocky came up Undead in last Night's investigation. Indeed. I'm not going to specify further until I need to, though.
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Day Two
Sept 12, 2009 19:13:36 GMT -5
Post by Mister Blockey on Sept 12, 2009 19:13:36 GMT -5
and btw this is a smudge. blockey agreed with you regarding multi votes. You know what this is something aside from everything else. I ALWAYS play town no matter what side I'm on. That line actually pisses me off. Seriously, that was an honest assessment of pro or anti town from a detached observation of the mechanics of the game. Calling someone out because they agree on objective game mechanics with someone else, regardless of their alignment, is stupid.
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Day Two
Sept 12, 2009 19:33:18 GMT -5
Post by Trepa Mayfield on Sept 12, 2009 19:33:18 GMT -5
I'm genuinely puzzled by Blockey's behavior at this point.
A non-town outed by a detective has three choices: contend the cop's credibility, try to buy time by bargaining, or roll over into their grave.
Contesting my status wouldn't work, since there's the possibility of me being a witch. If I am a witch, contesting would seal his fate. (And if I'm a seer, it probably wouldn't help him anyway).
But I'm honestly curious as to why he hasn't claimed vampire and offered to work as a vigilante. That would be the logical choice for him at this point, since claiming Necro would also be a death sentence, and it's already been pointed out that the Vamps have incentives to kill in a townie manner.
Now, I'm not advocating that we don't lynch Mr. Blockey. We should. Extra deaths are bad for town, despite the possibility of crosskills--and there's no reason Blockey couldn't double-cross us when it would be convenient for him. And if he is a necro, we should definitely lynch him, since they tend to be surprisingly dangerous mid to late game, when we need to be focused on the more dangerous anti-town groups.
It's just odd that he's not acting in his own self interests, is all. I guess maybe he figures it's not worth the effort.
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Day Two
Sept 12, 2009 19:38:06 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Sept 12, 2009 19:38:06 GMT -5
Just how many votes would you like me to have on the table, then, peek? You can't seem to decide. i thought i was clear. it's the loneliest number. two can be as bad it's almost as bad as the loneliest number. if you add an e to no it'll be the saddest experience that you'll ever do actually it's worse than two since she went away.
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Day Two
Sept 12, 2009 19:43:00 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Sept 12, 2009 19:43:00 GMT -5
and btw this is a smudge. blockey agreed with you regarding multi votes. You know what this is something aside from everything else. I ALWAYS play town no matter what side I'm on. That line actually pisses me off. Seriously, that was an honest assessment of pro or anti town from a detached observation of the mechanics of the game. Calling someone out because they agree on objective game mechanics with someone else, regardless of their alignment, is stupid. well i think you are stupid. and you eat boogers. nanner nanner.
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Day Two
Sept 12, 2009 19:50:21 GMT -5
Post by Gir! on Sept 12, 2009 19:50:21 GMT -5
Mmmmm....nanners.
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Day Two
Sept 12, 2009 20:36:45 GMT -5
Post by bufftabby on Sept 12, 2009 20:36:45 GMT -5
Just how many votes would you like me to have on the table, then, peek? You can't seem to decide. i thought i was clear. it's the loneliest number. two can be as bad it's almost as bad as the loneliest number. if you add an e to no it'll be the saddest experience that you'll ever do actually it's worse than two since she went away. Well, how can I possibly contend with that logic?
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Day Two
Sept 12, 2009 21:19:10 GMT -5
Post by Mister Blockey on Sept 12, 2009 21:19:10 GMT -5
I'm not talking about being a vampire because I simply don't want to be on life support. I don't want to be told what to do and then killed anyway because I get redirected. I don't want to be killed anyway later because I'm an easy target.
I don't feel like lying about not being undead because this is an open set up and I'm really not in the mood for that.
Besides I want to watch what happens when my power goes off.
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Day Two
Sept 13, 2009 1:54:36 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Sept 13, 2009 1:54:36 GMT -5
What, specificallly, don't you agree with? As I said in my post after it, going to that much of an extreme of trying to WAG Night kills and the cominations of them. Some, I think, is inevidible and helps, that much is just throwing smoke into the wind. Again, just my opinion. Not at all. I must have just misunderstood the question. Julie seemed to be asking if a RV would claim and tell us if he/she hit an innocent after they did so...at least that's how I read it. And I was point out the very obvious fact that the RV couldn't because they would have killed themselves the same Night, I assume? At least that is how MOST RVs are...they kill themselves the same Night as when they kill an innocent (this is how I was in the game I was an RV in, at least). Yes, I know that is how Germaine worked. It is not the standard way of designing a remorseful vig. The standard way is for the Vig to kill themselves after the alignment of their victim is revealed by the Moderator. That's how it worked in the Alpha Centauri game that Sister Coyote was a Vig in, how it worked in Pedescribe's T2 - Behind the Scenes game, and how it worked in Conspiracy 2. Ahhhh, okay, I gotcha. Didn't know that. Thanks for telling me. Well that's really really really really annoying In an open setup too *hugs his secret power* that is really bloody annoying go ahead and lynch me though I don't know about anyone else, but I'm inferring that is a confession. That secret power thing's got me a bit leery, though. He could be telling the truth, yeah, but I once claimed I had a secret power, being scum, just so Town wouldn't lynch me, so I think I'm leaning more of the way of him bullshitting. Vote: Vote MisterBlockeyWell that does sound like a confession Do we lynch or let the vig deal with it. The risks there are a) no vig b) blocked vig c) If blocky is a vamp then he would get another kill tonight if the night actions are resolved simultaneously I don't buy the 'secret power mwhahahahahah just try and lynch me' line from Blocky and obviously his votes are a total distraction and we should read nothing into them. Were you not around for Day one? This is the same sort of discussion we had about Boozy. My thoughts, at least, haven't changed on it--lynch the people you know to be scum lest they turn the tables on you, somehow, later.
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Day Two
Sept 13, 2009 1:55:29 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Sept 13, 2009 1:55:29 GMT -5
Vote MisterBlockey
Okay, why isn't the vote tag working?
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Day Two
Sept 13, 2009 2:41:29 GMT -5
Post by Mister Blockey on Sept 13, 2009 2:41:29 GMT -5
you didn't but a space between the ] and the next word. not a tag remember it's a workaround with the censor function
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Day Two
Sept 13, 2009 7:25:35 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Sept 13, 2009 7:25:35 GMT -5
He could be telling the truth, yeah, but I once claimed I had a secret power, being scum, just so Town wouldn't lynch me, so I think I'm leaning more of the way of him bullshitting. and really even if he does what's the difference. i was willing to at least listen to squiddy. but i see nothing that he can bring to the table unless he were the nec. in which case he just goes around raising zombies until such time that the undead start getting close to their wincon and then stretcharoonie. but even then depending on what or if he has some additional power we'd still have to deal with those implications. might as well get him out of the way and deal with any consequences sooner rather than later while there is still flexibility available.
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Day Two
Sept 13, 2009 12:36:31 GMT -5
Post by julie on Sept 13, 2009 12:36:31 GMT -5
Thanks for the discussion about the Remorseful Vig way back on page 1.
[bold]Vote: Mister Blockey[/bold]
I'm finding the way this is playing out very odd. non-Town players just calmly accepting death makes me nervous as hell, but the threat of the secret power doesn't. Yeah, it could exist, but it's not going to be an earth-shattering kaboom.
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Day Two
Sept 13, 2009 12:37:35 GMT -5
Post by julie on Sept 13, 2009 12:37:35 GMT -5
::sigh::
Vote: Mister Blockey
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Day Two
Sept 13, 2009 14:05:49 GMT -5
Post by Merestil Haye on Sept 13, 2009 14:05:49 GMT -5
Vote: Mister Blockey
At this stage, I don't think there is any doubt that Mister B is some sort of undead. Whichever he is, he's a danger and worth the lynching time. Besides, I'm in favour of lynching the nonTownsperson in the hand rather than probing in the bush for someone who may or may not be a danger to Town.
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Day Two
Sept 13, 2009 14:45:41 GMT -5
Post by Parzival on Sept 13, 2009 14:45:41 GMT -5
None of the Undead players are the kind we want around. They need to be killed off early as possible. I can't see any good reason not to vote for Blockey.
Vote: Mister Blockey
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Day Two
Sept 13, 2009 14:46:10 GMT -5
Post by Parzival on Sept 13, 2009 14:46:10 GMT -5
NETA:
Vote: Mister Blockey
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Day Two
Sept 13, 2009 15:09:32 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Sept 13, 2009 15:09:32 GMT -5
watch out cookies here they come.
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Day Two
Sept 13, 2009 16:10:40 GMT -5
Post by Natlaw on Sept 13, 2009 16:10:40 GMT -5
watch out cookies here they come. Here is another one: Vote: Mister Blockey and really even if he does what's the difference. i was willing to at least listen to squiddy. but i see nothing that he can bring to the table unless he were the nec. in which case he just goes around raising zombies until such time that the undead start getting close to their wincon and then stretcharoonie. but even then depending on what or if he has some additional power we'd still have to deal with those implications. might as well get him out of the way and deal with any consequences sooner rather than later while there is still flexibility available. He might be the Necromancer, bluffing about his secret power and thus be kept save in, let's say a casket. But he also could be a Vampire or have a secret power he wants to use next Night. Yes, the vote record will be not of much use, but Tomorrow we'll also start to get death info reveals to make a better informed lynch.
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Day Two
Sept 13, 2009 18:36:51 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Sept 13, 2009 18:36:51 GMT -5
Yes, the vote record will be not of much use, but Tomorrow we'll also start to get death info reveals to make a better informed lynch. and in the spirit of being a total and consistent fucking asshole: a slip (or something), followed by a scum claim. an investigation (uncontested) followed by a scum claim. i mean my dick is small but even i can find that fucker in the dark. lol, peace. let's continue to hope that all our hunting is as straight forward.
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Day Two
Sept 13, 2009 18:42:07 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 13, 2009 18:42:07 GMT -5
I can live with a useless vote record for a Day, but it is the lack of anything else substantive being along with some of the votes for Blockey that is the most bothersome and dangerous. Utter lack of content results in things like the minor debate about whether or not it is a inherently dubious to WAG about Night kills...or vague notions of posts that may have PIS...to become way more pronounced than they need to be. Even so, I'd at least like some of these people flitting in just long enough to put their vote on the sure thing to weigh in on something, anything else, even those.
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Day Two
Sept 13, 2009 18:44:12 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 13, 2009 18:44:12 GMT -5
NETA : "but it is the lack of anything else substantive being posted along with some of the votes for Blockey that is the most bothersome and dangerous."
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Day Two
Sept 13, 2009 19:58:31 GMT -5
Post by julie on Sept 13, 2009 19:58:31 GMT -5
As much as definitive reveals make it easy to vote, they make it much harder to come up with much substantive to say other than "Rah!"
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Day Two
Sept 13, 2009 20:08:21 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Sept 13, 2009 20:08:21 GMT -5
ok i'll play. NETA : "but it is the lack of anything else substantive being posted along with some of the votes for Blockey that is the most bothersome and dangerous." sister should be voted for her remark. that's a fuck up even if she is town. cias should be chastised for goodness sake. holy crud we hope for cross kills but we can't be sure but yet you ask for more as if you know. lukers should be voted because this game moves and twists quick so laying low is being non town oriented. so parzival let's see what happens when you get bolded. buff should be voted because she espouses a really bad strategy regarding votes and accountability (as well as that booger eating blockey) hey, vig. paying attention. and fuck, even cookies should be voted for fishing like a mofo even if it might be town oriented. otie dotie. ok, did i piss enough folks off. is that substantive enough for you, cookies?
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