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Post by Natlaw on Oct 15, 2010 15:23:31 GMT -5
That's the extra mystery vote for Dexter.
Not sure if I'm getting Iskarals options right:
Option 1: Someone redirecting Galadriel to Batman - I find this unlikely as well. A Zedd/Batman bus drive unlikely as Maniac/Zedd/Mason targeted Batman directly. That leaves the mass-kill / mass random redirect to Batman that diverted Galadriel or Galadriel lying (but do that when the mason revealed they were watching?).
Option 2:Galadriel lying and targeted Batman to direct all/any (expect the jail) actions to Batman to protect Zedd?
Option 3: Something else? A town/scum protector redirected and the reasons Batman didn't die? A killer (another PFK? scum?) who got redirect from Zedd to Batman but stopped by Rorschach? Iskaral why don't you these consider possible options? Why does option 2 fit better?
You think Zedd and Galadriel are scum but because Galadriel claims to have targeted him Zedd must be more important and thus lynched?
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Post by Natlaw on Oct 15, 2010 15:29:58 GMT -5
I can hide people. Or more accurate I can hide them while they preform their actions. I can target someone and if a tracker/watcher (these are my words and not the Mods) is looking at that player, then I can "conceal" them. The power is not very useful - but when the Masons claimed they could track I stopped using it. Because I didn't want to mess anything up for them. So there you have it. When reading my role I thought the best play was to hide Town Powers that was likely to be watched by then Scum. Why would you want to hide who Zedd was investigating? Although I see no way Town can use that power because they need to know a town power but not one that has claimed publically - it useless on it's own but a very nice power for scum. At least the jail (if Dexter town) has a block/protect going for it.
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Post by Natlaw on Oct 15, 2010 15:31:29 GMT -5
Or maybe an even better question: why not try to hide Eleanor again?
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Post by Renata on Oct 15, 2010 15:39:57 GMT -5
Here.Galadriel votes Gir on day two. In the words of the dead MURDERER in the next post (only not quite, because did I mention I'm lazy?), "I hate all these one-off votes so I'm going to make a one-off vote". Buddy moves Galadriel right to the top of his LIST O' SUSPICION for the crime, which is maybe just a tad bit on the pointy side for a scummish distancing, since it begs for follow-up the next Day. I've been reading it as a slight town indicator for Galadriel.
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Post by Renata on Oct 15, 2010 15:46:10 GMT -5
At this point I'm inclined to vote for Total, as I think it is time for a full claim from her and so for it is still not forthcoming. I see she's responded, but I don't think I would have asked for a full claim under these circumstances, with Dexter up by a half dozen votes or so and only a few hours left. At least you did put your money where your mouth is. Hood's breath, I may be a hypocrite anyway asking for the partial reveal. Anyway, moving on.
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Post by Renata on Oct 15, 2010 15:53:11 GMT -5
Galadriel -- I thought the masons said they could confirm Batman visited Buddy Christ.
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Post by Renata on Oct 15, 2010 15:55:49 GMT -5
If that's correct and in the purview of Galadriel's claimed power, then Batman should have been hidden to them. Need clarification, fast fast fast!
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Post by Renata on Oct 15, 2010 15:58:48 GMT -5
That's the extra mystery vote for Dexter. Not sure if I'm getting Iskarals options right: Option 1: Someone redirecting Galadriel to Batman - I find this unlikely as well. A Zedd/Batman bus drive unlikely as Maniac/Zedd/Mason targeted Batman directly. That leaves the mass-kill / mass random redirect to Batman that diverted Galadriel or Galadriel lying (but do that when the mason revealed they were watching?). Option 2:Galadriel lying and targeted Batman to direct all/any (expect the jail) actions to Batman to protect Zedd? Option 3: Something else? A town/scum protector redirected and the reasons Batman didn't die? A killer (another PFK? scum?) who got redirect from Zedd to Batman but stopped by Rorschach? Iskaral why don't you these consider possible options? Why does option 2 fit better? You think Zedd and Galadriel are scum but because Galadriel claims to have targeted him Zedd must be more important and thus lynched? No, that's not quite right, but it's been superceded -- I'll explain again later as/if I have the chance. I could swear that somewhere one of the masons claimed *they could confirm* that Batman had investigated Drain Bead. Is this true? I'll never find it in the ten more minutes or so I have online right now.
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Post by Hockey Monkey! on Oct 15, 2010 16:02:03 GMT -5
I'm okay with claiming at this point. However - I still feel the timing is off. I was hoping I could go in to the Night with this huge "might be a protector"-sign on my back and that it would serve as a WiFoM for Scum or PFK's. However I'm off to bed and as posted earlier today I'm might not be online for a couple of days starting next week. So here's the deal: I can hide people. Or more accurate I can hide them while they preform their actions. I can target someone and if a tracker/watcher (these are my words and not the Mods) is looking at that player, then I can "conceal" them. The power is not very useful - but when the Masons claimed they could track I stopped using it. Because I didn't want to mess anything up for them. So there you have it. When reading my role I thought the best play was to hide Town Powers that was likely to be watched by then Scum. The first person lynched was the Town Hider. What is your role called? I'm not buying your claim. Add to that my previous suspicion that led me to jail you and I have to unvote Skellingtonvote Galadriel
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Post by Natlaw on Oct 15, 2010 16:22:52 GMT -5
No, that's not quite right, but it's been superceded -- I'll explain again later as/if I have the chance. I could swear that somewhere one of the masons claimed *they could confirm* that Batman had investigated Drain Bead. Is this true? I'll never find it in the ten more minutes or so I have online right now. I think they only claimed that batman was in the cave. As I understand it and Galadriel is telling the truth: a tracker watching Batman should have seen him do nothing and a watcher watching Buddy would not have seen Batman visit. I don't think the masons said they tracked and not sure if they got told by the moderator explicitly that Batman was in the cave.
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Post by Renata on Oct 15, 2010 16:23:37 GMT -5
YES. Post 572, day three:
"ok. let me make it clear for the rest of the clan.
batman was our intended target. i am 100 percent sure that the results that we got were related to batman, if we are to believe our mod. i am also 100 percent sure that everything that we have shared is the information that the mod (blockey) gave us. we know, based on information from the mod, if it is to be believed, that ror and story did in fact visit batty as they have said. additionally, zed did not. puffy, gir and total were also there if we are to believe our mod.
additionally i'll toss this out there just to screw with the folks.
we also know that batty did in fact visit buddy. hence our absolute belief in his results.
like i said, it was information overload in the mason house toDay.
we have no clue what folks were doing, but that's how it panned out.
anyone ever seen a royal flush in person? "
Sorry for the lousy formatting, but I'm already supposed to be making dinner. If Galadriel was redirected to Batman, then *Batman* should have been invisible to any watchers/trackers (her words). Explain how the masons would be able to see what they did.
unvote[/color] vote: Galadriel[/color]
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Post by Renata on Oct 15, 2010 16:24:59 GMT -5
"we also know that batty did in fact visit buddy. hence our absolute belief in his results."
How?
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Post by Natlaw on Oct 15, 2010 16:28:02 GMT -5
Vote Galadriel
but I would like a mason to confirm they tracked Batman Night Two.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Oct 15, 2010 16:30:42 GMT -5
SQUEEK! (unvote)
SQUEEK. (I have to admit -- if G was "redirected" to bats, then the masons shouldn't know that Bats visited Buddy. Now this doesn't necessarily mean I believe Zedd, but I find Zedd's claim and the related discussion more plausible than Total's explanation for her actions.)
SQUEEK vote: Total Galadriel
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Post by Sister Coyote on Oct 15, 2010 16:31:21 GMT -5
SQUEEK! (Is there a mod in the house to give us a revised vote count, pls?)
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Post by Natlaw on Oct 15, 2010 16:40:04 GMT -5
Unofficial count: Eight votes [/b] : Dr. Rajesh Ramayan Koothrappal (59), The Corinthian (60), Jack Skellington (83), Total Galadriel (93), Curious George (99), Zeddicus Zu'l Zoroander (110), Dr. Strangelove (155)[/ul] Seven votes [/b] : Generic homicidal maniac (13), Elizabeth Bathory (148), Nakor (177), Dexter (188), Iskaral (190), Nordom (192), Death of rats (193) [/ul]
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Post by Merestil Haye on Oct 15, 2010 17:00:28 GMT -5
Official Vote Count. Eight votes [/b] : Dr. Rajesh Ramayan Koothrappal (59), The Corinthian (60), Jack Skellington (83), Total Galadriel (93), Curious George (99), Zeddicus Zu'l Zoroander (110), Dr. Strangelove (155)[/ul] Seven votes [/b] : Generic homicidal maniac (13), Elizabeth Bathory (148), Nakor (177), Dexter (188), Iskaral (190), Nordom (192), Death of rats (193) [/ul] In the event of a tie, the mods will randomly select from the following two options. * No player is lynched. * All players tied for the lynch lead are lynched.
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Post by Natlaw on Oct 15, 2010 17:00:56 GMT -5
I just realized: did the masons not see Zedd because Galadriel was hiding him? But that would mean Galadriel went instead of Zedd? And if she knew that would happen was it to frame Zedd? But Zedd has now claimed it to be part of his role. It wouldn't have been a redirect of Galadriel then (as possible result of the possible mass redirect).
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Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Oct 15, 2010 17:12:48 GMT -5
Vote: Total Galadriel
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Post by Sister Coyote on Oct 15, 2010 17:14:58 GMT -5
SQUEEK! (Who hasn't voted? Also, Can we PLEASE not have a tie?)
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Post by special on Oct 15, 2010 17:15:11 GMT -5
I'm okay with claiming at this point. However - I still feel the timing is off. I was hoping I could go in to the Night with this huge "might be a protector"-sign on my back and that it would serve as a WiFoM for Scum or PFK's. However I'm off to bed and as posted earlier today I'm might not be online for a couple of days starting next week. So here's the deal: I can hide people. Or more accurate I can hide them while they preform their actions. I can target someone and if a tracker/watcher (these are my words and not the Mods) is looking at that player, then I can "conceal" them. The power is not very useful - but when the Masons claimed they could track I stopped using it. Because I didn't want to mess anything up for them. So there you have it. When reading my role I thought the best play was to hide Town Powers that was likely to be watched by then Scum. So you can hiude your target from a watcher or a tracker. But the mason watchers saw everyone who visited your target? This doesn't make sense. Unvote: Dexter Vote: Total Galdriel
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Post by Sister Coyote on Oct 15, 2010 17:15:52 GMT -5
SQUEEK (Phew.)
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Post by special on Oct 15, 2010 17:20:50 GMT -5
is the mason investigator a watcher/tracker?
No need to answer that, I'm only thinking outloud. If they were confident of who visitedBatman and who batman visited?
I see others had the same thought as I did regarding Galadriel.
Maybe Galadriel is telling the truth and hid Zedd's tracks but in doing so followed him to Batman's cave? That's pretty 'option 3' as the Mule might say
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Post by special on Oct 15, 2010 17:21:47 GMT -5
it should be 9-7 Galadriel over Dexter right now.
I'd be OK with a double lynch, but not a no lynch, so it's not worth the risk
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Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Oct 15, 2010 17:29:27 GMT -5
Unvote: Total Galadriel
***Sorry... didn't realize it would cause a tie!***
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Post by Red Skeezix on Oct 15, 2010 17:29:33 GMT -5
Galadriel is lying.
unvote Dexter
vote Galadriel
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Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Oct 15, 2010 17:33:38 GMT -5
***Oh good the risk of a tie was abated by Ed....***
Vote: Total Galadriel
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Post by Red Skeezix on Oct 15, 2010 17:36:43 GMT -5
Just a point. Galadriel does not have the power that she claims to have. It does not mean that that power doesn't exist.
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Post by Red Skeezix on Oct 15, 2010 17:45:36 GMT -5
Also I will confirm that Batman was tracked on Night 2. The tracking result is that he visited Drain Bead.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Oct 15, 2010 17:48:17 GMT -5
Just a point. Galadriel does not have the power that she claims to have. It does not mean that that power doesn't exist. SQUEEK? (I'm afraid I don't follow -- we've established that Total is probably lying about her actions and her motivations, but I don't see why she couldn't possibly have the power she claims.)
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