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Day Two
Sept 22, 2007 16:50:49 GMT -5
Post by Gir! on Sept 22, 2007 16:50:49 GMT -5
It was nearly dawn when the shadowy figure waiting in an alley outside the Sanchez Brothers shop spotted the intended target locking up and heading home. Waiting until the target was passing the alley, the figure then sprung out to grab him and drag him into the alley, where a grenade was forced into his mouth, taped in place and activated. The figure sprinted from the alley just ahead of the explosion.
BLAM!*
The sound of the explosion woke quite a few people in the surrounding port, and the sounds of panic woke the rest. A crowd of people gathered around the alley's entrance as the first person on the scene turned over the body. There wasn't enough of his face left to identify him, but the ID card retrieved from his pocket left no doubt as to the victim's identity...
diggitcamara aka Sheng Sanchez, an Entrepreneur (Mason), has been killed.
In shock over the gruesomeness of the killing, several of the group turned away to be sick. One of them staggered back out of the alley, only to nearly tumble onto his face as he tripped over another body, this one containing several bullet holes. The second body had no ID, but his identity was obvious to a couple of the bystanders.
Greedy Smurf aka The Operative, a Serial Killer, has been killed.
*No, this is not a hint as to the killer's identity. Death scene was constructed from Blaster Master's earlier request for some explosions.
Day Two will end no later than Monday, October 1 at 3:30 PM Pacific Time/5:30 PM Central Time.
Still alive: atarus BlasterMaster (aka spaceman spiff) CaerieD Captain Klutz CatinaSuit ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies Diomedes Dnooman drain bead FlyingCowofDoom Hal Briston Hockey Monkey Idle Thoughts Mad the Swine mhaye mtgman panamajack Pygmy Rugger Roosh sinjin Storyteller tragic whatthefrak Yattara zeriel
Dead: dotchan (nee Zuma): Lynched Day One - Ramiro: Vanilla Crew diggitcamara: Killed Night Two - Sheng Sanchez: Mason Greedy Smurf: Killed Night Two - The Operative: Serial Killer
Edit Note: adjusted Day End time.
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Day Two
Sept 22, 2007 16:52:47 GMT -5
Post by dnooman on Sept 22, 2007 16:52:47 GMT -5
Super. We're screwed.
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Day Two
Sept 22, 2007 16:58:28 GMT -5
Post by whatthefrak on Sept 22, 2007 16:58:28 GMT -5
Damn...
I guess the silver lining would be that if we spin the bottle again today, we'll have a higher chance of getting scum.
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Day Two
Sept 22, 2007 16:58:48 GMT -5
Post by Pollux Oil on Sept 22, 2007 16:58:48 GMT -5
Ouch. That's a painful way to go. Bye diggit. Serial Killer dead on the first killing night? Interesting... Bye Smurf.
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Day Two
Sept 22, 2007 17:00:23 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Sept 22, 2007 17:00:23 GMT -5
Well. Seems clear cut. I just hope it's not so tricky that it appears simple but there's still factions out there because if I'm to read right:
GreedySmurf had a kill a Night being a Serial Killer? If so, he killed Diggit and the scum killed Greedy.
If THAT is the case....ha ha! The Serial Killer could have helped scum. But now that he's taken out, there goes that help. Of course, the SK could have ALSO gotten scum along the way, however I still think it's for the best that the kills at Night are reduced. Maybe that'll just be me.
I also feel this lends a LOT of support to Mad's claim. The name was right, and I didn't see Diggit saying otherwise the Day before. I'd have to say Mad is pretty much confirmed in my eyes, at least.
Now just one question remains. Are two killing groups/roles (scum and SK) the ONLY ones who can kill at Night? If so, the above is what happened. If not, well, then there are other unknown things at play here. Which is more likely?
My two cents is: Two possible kills a Night is about average. A possible three seems like too many. But I could be wrong. I'll keep my mind open. But I'm leaning more towards, GS killed Diggit and Diggit was offed by the Alliance scum.
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Day Two
Sept 22, 2007 17:03:31 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Sept 22, 2007 17:03:31 GMT -5
Eh? How's that? Seems to me a killing faction was taken out (something I see as a good thing) and Mad's claim is given fairly strong support. How is that bad?
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Day Two
Sept 22, 2007 17:04:32 GMT -5
Post by Gir! on Sept 22, 2007 17:04:32 GMT -5
Note: Edited Dawn post for slight adjustment to the Day's End time. Please check it if you've already read the Dawn post.
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Day Two
Sept 22, 2007 17:05:15 GMT -5
Post by Hal Briston on Sept 22, 2007 17:05:15 GMT -5
The worst part of this (as bad as it is to lose two people) is going to be in trying to figure out just who in the hell killed who. Ugh... Sorry to see you go, guys...
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Day Two
Sept 22, 2007 17:06:05 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Sept 22, 2007 17:06:05 GMT -5
Anyway, diggit, R.I.P.
GS, sorta R.I.P.
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Day Two
Sept 22, 2007 17:10:19 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Sept 22, 2007 17:10:19 GMT -5
The worst part of this (as bad as it is to lose two people) is going to be in trying to figure out just who in the guay killed who. Ugh... Sorry to see you go, guys... Am I missing something here? I must be because what the heck? It was a Serial Killer who was killed. Not a Vigilante. A Serial Killer. A Serial Killer plays for himself. At least a Vigilante type role is pro-Town..but a SK is not. An SK doesn't care WHO it kills and is only trying to be the last one standing. So color me confused why people are seeing a SK role being killed off as a bad thing. The SK is it's own team, not Town. And while it could hit scum along the way, it has a FAR better chance of hitting Townies since they are the majority in this game. I assume the SK would have one kill a Night. So this means we'll be one less kill a Night and I don't see that as a bad thing, myself. Now a Vigilante, on the other hand, at least they're Pro-Town. Sure you get the same results but at least their intentions are good and they'll TRY to see out scum. A SK doesn't, as far as I know. A SK just kills whoever.
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Day Two
Sept 22, 2007 17:16:24 GMT -5
Post by Merestil Haye on Sept 22, 2007 17:16:24 GMT -5
Well that's a bit of a mess. [oog] So long fellas. Have fun kibitzing and cheer what you can of your teams on. And Kat, explosions are always good. [oog] Personally I feel that Diggit's death is a bit serendipitous. His rolename provides MadTheSwine's claim with some substantial verification. I think we can probably trust Mad for the next day or so. (I'm still worried about a recruiting faction, so we'll have to watch Mad for signs that he's been switched sides.) Greedy's death will buy time for the town to develop evidence. So I'm not going to miss the role. Excuse me I have some files to update.
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Day Two
Sept 22, 2007 17:17:43 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 22, 2007 17:17:43 GMT -5
Yowsa. That's...interesting.
I agree that Mad is pretty much confirmed now, but it sucks that that confirmation had to come at the price of the death of apparently the only other Mason. I'll also be keeping the "Greedy targeted Diggit, and the scum targeted Greedy" theory foremost in my mind, at least until a more likely explanation develops.
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Day Two
Sept 22, 2007 17:21:35 GMT -5
Post by Drain Bead on Sept 22, 2007 17:21:35 GMT -5
If you are nightkilled, does your night action still occur?
If not, there's another killing role out there.
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Day Two
Sept 22, 2007 17:24:24 GMT -5
Post by Hockey Monkey! on Sept 22, 2007 17:24:24 GMT -5
Out on the main page, the voting data has been updated with the color codes. Interesting note: diggit only voted once the entire Day. That kinda blew my mind because I didn't notice in all the back and forth action. I'm considering Mad's claim verified, and if there are only two of them...then it's kinda good that Mad claimed yesterday because he wouldn't have had anyone to verify him. Good riddance GreedySmurf! RIP diggit! 3 min till hockey draft...gotta go.
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Day Two
Sept 22, 2007 17:37:03 GMT -5
Post by Parzival on Sept 22, 2007 17:37:03 GMT -5
There's a lot of stuff to go over today, but I really can't see this as anything but highly positive. (RIP to both players, though.)
The SK is dead (which is about the best possible thing that can happen the first night). Future nights will be easier to tell, and the attrition rate will drop.
While we did lose a somewhat valuable town role, this confirms Mad about 99% town for me. The situations where he would have been able to pull off such a claim and have all that information, without him being what he says, are vanishingly small. Considering that one of the roles of Masons are the ability to confirm each other as pro-town players, that end was served.
Sure it could have been worse, but after Yesterday, we're flying high.
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Day Two
Sept 22, 2007 17:38:06 GMT -5
Post by Gir! on Sept 22, 2007 17:38:06 GMT -5
With 25 players alive, 13 votes are needed to lynch.
Again, Day will end automatically if 13 votes are received. No countdown will occur; unvotes after the 13-vote mark is reached will not count.
If no one receives 13 votes by Day's End, no lynch will occur.
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Day Two
Sept 22, 2007 17:56:09 GMT -5
Post by Gir! on Sept 22, 2007 17:56:09 GMT -5
Asked by PM (and above, but it wasn't in green).
[Evil Answer]Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe[/EA]
*dodges thrown objects*
Yes.
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Day Two
Sept 22, 2007 19:20:34 GMT -5
Post by Boozahol Squid, P.I. on Sept 22, 2007 19:20:34 GMT -5
Yeah, Mad provided the name of his comason, diggit had ample opportunity to out Mad if the name claim was incorrect... I think we're good to go with Mad being a townie.
We don't yet know if we have a Vigilante or not, but I'm glad the SK is deadified. Two kills suggest that there was only one night killer other than the Alliance, unless the doc managed to hit right.
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Day Two
Sept 22, 2007 20:03:12 GMT -5
Post by Drain Bead on Sept 22, 2007 20:03:12 GMT -5
Dio, any results from your night watch?
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Day Two
Sept 22, 2007 20:27:45 GMT -5
Post by Mad The Swine on Sept 22, 2007 20:27:45 GMT -5
See ya Bro...RIP
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Day Two
Sept 22, 2007 20:36:44 GMT -5
Post by Boozahol Squid, P.I. on Sept 22, 2007 20:36:44 GMT -5
Dio, any results from your night watch? Results? Yes and no. My info-feed wasn't disrupted last night, but unfortunately, all I got was an 8-hour video of Yattara sleeping. No, you can't have a copy, you perv. It's going in my collection.
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Day Two
Sept 22, 2007 20:59:20 GMT -5
Post by Boozahol Squid, P.I. on Sept 22, 2007 20:59:20 GMT -5
So... we've got a couple possibilities, as far as I see it:
1) there is no other night killer other than the Operative and the Alliance. The Alliance killed Greedy, Greedy killed diggit. 2) There's a vig or a second mob outfit, and either two killers targeted the same person, or the doc blocked them. In this case, we don't know whether it was a pro- or anti- town force that knocked off Greedy. We also don't know that Greedy was the one who targeted diggit.
Greedy, by the way, voted for Mad, dnooman, and dotchan yesterday, although he unvoted them all along the way. All three of his votes were in the midst of bandwagon attempts. It's intriguing that he didn't lay the hammer down on dot, as SK is the only role that would be in favor of either townie -or- scum dying.
By the way, this may annoy people to a huge extent, but the Operative, once again, is a name that fits in well with the role of SK. The character is a ruthless killing machine who, at the end of Serenity, is entirely unaligned. Oh, and he killed Mr. Universe in the movie, so you know he's a jerk.
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Day Two
Sept 22, 2007 21:13:30 GMT -5
Post by diggitcamara on Sept 22, 2007 21:13:30 GMT -5
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Day Two
Sept 22, 2007 21:52:43 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Sept 22, 2007 21:52:43 GMT -5
Mad, I trust you understand now why you were hounded to reveal more details than simply "I'm a mason." Had you died last night also (and it's very reasonable to consider that you would have been targeted since the scum would have known you aren't one of them), without revealing that there were only two of you (masons), a scum may have been able to claim being a third one. Now, that threat is eliminated. Also, had you not given the two specific details, you would not be 100% confirmed in my mind, like you are now.
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Day Two
Sept 23, 2007 0:46:04 GMT -5
Post by Greedy Smurf on Sept 23, 2007 0:46:04 GMT -5
Hasta La Vista. What are the odds of being given a cool roll like the serial killer and being offed on the first night God damn it all. I was so looking forward to killing a lot of you people.
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Day Two
Sept 23, 2007 1:01:09 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 23, 2007 1:01:09 GMT -5
Now I have this mental image of your Greedy Smurf icon crying as he realizes his smurf berry pastry is full of bullet holes.
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Day Two
Sept 23, 2007 1:19:00 GMT -5
Post by RoOsh on Sept 23, 2007 1:19:00 GMT -5
As stated by the many above, I am quite pleased with this day's start. The SK would have been annoying as hell to try to trace out and having him gone is quite nice. We could have had 3 killing roles, and one blocked, I will not discount that possibility (Perhaps a Vig killed someone, while the SK didn't? Only because of my own assumptions though. The Operative has a big sword. I saw no stabbings. But then again, maybe it was because of the request of explosions? I don't really see this line of thinking as leading to anything useful though. More data would come about if more people are killed by explosions in the future.) But yes, Mad is pretty much clean in my mind now. Though i really hope there isn't a cult in this game. That was one reason I disliked the idea of a no-lynch. Just because not only do you give a day to the scum, and yes that gives us info in the day, but you do allow a cult to gain an extra member, and I do NOT like that possibility at ALL, because the last thing we need is for them to gain in numbers. That's why i still support Lynchings of ANYONE over No lynches, until enough time has passed that the cult role is ruled out. Anyways, expect less posting from me in toDay. I'd like to not break 100 posts a day if possible.
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Day Two
Sept 23, 2007 4:07:28 GMT -5
Post by CatInASuit on Sept 23, 2007 4:07:28 GMT -5
Ok, initial thoughts on the night
1. Two people died. Whether there are three killers or not, we can find out tomorrow night, if we get another two kills.
Simplest option: Smurf kills Diggit, Alliance kills Smurf.
No, we cannot read anything from the text. It is just flavour text and as such means nothing. (Apart from being a good read).
2. People Left.
Shiny People CatinaSuit - Crew - Wash Diomedes - Beat Cop - Mr Universe Dnooman - Crew - Sherriff Bourne Mad the Swine - Mason - Hector Sanchez Roosh - Crew - Inara Serra Yattara - Crew - ??
Non-Shiny People atarus BlasterMaster (aka spaceman spiff) CaerieD Captain Klutz ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies drain bead FlyingCowofDoom Hal Briston Hockey Monkey Idle Thoughts mhaye mtgman panamajack Pygmy Rugger sinjin Storyteller tragic whatthefrak zeriel
This assumes no recruitment, which being honest, we can deal with when it arises. Time to start looking at the non-shiny people methinks.
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Day Two
Sept 23, 2007 5:17:25 GMT -5
Post by Boozahol Squid, P.I. on Sept 23, 2007 5:17:25 GMT -5
Let me make a clarification on my role, because I think you might've gotten it a bit off:
I'm not quite a beat cop, I'm a watcher. It's my understanding thatthis role requires a mafia killing along the liens of the Treasure Island game: The mafia must not only choose a target, but also a member of their company to do the deed.
If Yattara had been chosen by the scum to kill someone, I would have seen her do it. Similarly, if the scum or Greedy had chosen to off her, I would have seen that. However, just because she was in bed last night doesn't mean she's entirely off the non-shiney list. I don't think I would have seen her confer with the other scum. That would make my role -hugely- more powerful than I think it is.
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Day Two
Sept 23, 2007 5:18:29 GMT -5
Post by Boozahol Squid, P.I. on Sept 23, 2007 5:18:29 GMT -5
NETA: why am I spelling shiny with an e? Am I an idiot? Yes, I am.
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