|
Post by Sister Coyote on May 29, 2011 20:00:24 GMT -5
`Two days wrong!' sighed the Hatter. `I told you butter wouldn't suit the works!' he added looking angrily at the March Hare.
`It was the BEST butter,' the March Hare meekly replied.
`Yes, but some crumbs must have got in as well,' the Hatter grumbled: `you shouldn't have put it in with the bread-knife.'
The March Hare took the watch and looked at it gloomily: then he dipped it into his cup of tea, and looked at it again: but he could think of nothing better to say than his first remark, `It was the BEST butter, you know.'
The Best Butter or not, last Night was a very bad night for Leporidae.
LightFoot, the March Hare, Scum Strongman has been slain.
Y'all also find the White Rabbit face down in a can of paint.
Suburban Plankton, the White Rabbit, Town Scotsman has been...
Oh, wait. After you pull him out of the paint, he coughs and starts breathing again. Not dead, after all, just dyed an unseemly shade of red for either a rabbit OR a plankton. It would be positively lovely in a rose, though.
ToDay begins now. It will end at 6 p.m. on Friday, June 4.
|
|
|
Post by BillMc on May 29, 2011 20:03:23 GMT -5
WoooHoooo! :-)
|
|
|
Post by Archangel on May 29, 2011 20:06:02 GMT -5
Happy morning. Damn, Bill, you are scary good. Moley, I'm back to thinking you're town with Lightfoot flipping scum.
|
|
|
Post by JustBeingGinger on May 29, 2011 20:07:55 GMT -5
Awesome! Seriously, Bill you should be on CSI or something!
|
|
|
Post by Rysto on May 29, 2011 20:13:43 GMT -5
Vote Ma'at
My analysis from yesterDay still stands, only now with the knowledge that Lightfoot was scum Ma'at looks much, much worse.
|
|
|
Post by Rysto on May 29, 2011 20:26:04 GMT -5
Day 1 Final Vote Count ace093 (8,9): Special Ed [80], gnarlycharlie [97], storyteller [115], metallicsquink [127], archangel [144], fluiddruid [145], LightFoot [173], Meeko [250], septimus [287,287] Honest Moley (3,3): Rysto [243], BillMc [314], JustBeingGinger [316] Captain Pinkies (2,2): ace093 [227], septimus [287,287], Suburban Plankton [291] CIAS (1,1): colby11 [102,168], septimus [206,234], Honest Moley [324] Paranoia (1,3): JustBeingGinger [237,316], colby11 [257], septimus [287,287] fluiddruid (1,2): justbeingginger [153,160], MHaye [304], Honest Moley [313,324] archangel (1,2): Honest Moley [179,226], CIAS [199] septimus (1,1): guiri [233] guiri (1,1): septimus [234,287,287] gnarlycharlie (0,1): suburban plankton [79,93] BillMc (0,1): Suburban Plankton [93,291] colby11 (0,1): CIAS [110,199] Suburban Plankton (0,1): metallicsquink [111,127] storyteller (0,1): archangel [129,144] Meeko (1,1): Dirx [302]
Day 2 Final Vote Count Captain Pinkies (9,9)*: Special Ed [4], Suburban Plankton [47,198,209], septimus [88,381], Meeko [156], LightFoot [161, 264], JustBeingGinger [228], Storyteller [269], guiri [304], CatInaSuit [317], colby11 [341] fluiddruid (7,6): Archangel [30,203,246], gnarlycharlie [227], BillMc [343], LightFoot[363], Merestil Haye [374], Honest Moley [379] Archangel (2,3): CatInaSuit [26,317], metallicsquink [37], Captain Pinkies [90] Paranoia (0,1): colby11 [176,313] JustBeingGinger (0,1): Honest Moley [263, 379] colby11 (2,1): Ma'at [389] guiri (1,1): Rysto [321] Meeko (1,1): Dirx [371] gnarlycharlie (0,1): Archangel [203,246] CatInaSuit (1,1): septimus [60,88,381] Special Ed (0,1): Suburban Plankton [198,209]
Day 3 Final Vote Count Meeko (7,7) BillMc [72] Guiri [108] Archangel [116] JustBeingGinger [215], gnarlycharlie [233], septimus [237], Dirx [238] septimus (3,3) Suburban Plankton [239], Merestil Haye [252], storyteller [255] Archangel (2,3) metallic squink [121], Ma'at [232], Suburban Plankton [235,239] Lightfoot (2,2) CatInASuit [165] Honest Moley [211] Guiri (1,1) Rysto [171] Rysto (1,1) Lightfoot [183] BillMc (0,2) Honest Moley [81 196] Ma'at [103 193] metallic squink (0,1) Septimus [112,237] GnarlyCharlie (0,1) JustBeingGinger [173 215] JustBeingGinger (0,1) CatInASuit [64 165] CatInASuit (0,1) Septimus [47 112] colby11 (1,1): Meeko [13]
Day 4 Vote Count prior to MHaye's claim Archangel (4,1): metallic squink [102], CatInaSuit [226] metallic squink (3,3)*: BillMc [8], HonestMoley [98], septimus [151] Septimus (1,2): CatInASuit [17,226], Archangel [21] Gnarlycharlie (1,1): JustBeingGinger [18] Ma'at (1,1): Rysto [35] CatInaSuit (1,1): Suburban Plankton [183] Lightfoot (1,1): guiri [198] BillMc (1,1): Lightfoot [205] Honest Moley (0,1): gnarlycharlie [123,177,180], Suburban Plankton [175,183] Suburban Plankton (0,0): gnarlycharlie [177,180]
Day 4 Final Vote Count metallic squink (8,8): BillMc [8], HonestMoley [98], septimus [151], Merestil Haye [251], Rysto [257], Ma'at [272], JustBeingGinger [292], storyteller0910 [313,314,319] Archangel (4,2): metallic squink [102], CatInaSuit [226] CatInaSuit (2,2): Suburban Plankton [183], gnarlycharlie [246], LightFoot [312] Lightfoot (1,1): guiri [198] Septimus (1,2): CatInASuit [17,226], Archangel [21] Gnarlycharlie (0,1): JustBeingGinger [18,292] Ma'at (0,1): Rysto [35, 257] Honest Moley (0,1): gnarlycharlie [123,177,180,246], Suburban Plankton [175,183] Suburban Plankton (0,0): gnarlycharlie [177,180] BillMc (0,1): Lightfoot [205,300]
|
|
|
Post by Holy Moley! on May 29, 2011 20:27:56 GMT -5
Happy morning. Damn, Bill, you are scary good. Moley, I'm back to thinking you're town with Lightfoot flipping scum. You are thinking right indeed. So Lightfoot got hers? I can't IMAGINE who could possibly have been responsible for that. I'm a little annoyed at myself though... last evening, Lightfoot's name was the one person I completely forgot to post in my "possibly scum" list. For the first time I GOT A POSITIVE RESULT with my investigation. I'm actually excited that this whole teapot thing works! As to the subject of my investigation, let's just say that I was a little doubtful that we'd see a THIRD town-aligned investigative role... especially one that conveniently turned up to confirm Squink's scumminess when Squink looked like she was about to be lynched anyway. Doubtful enough to use a mod PM investigation on said investigative role anyway. (Plus, if MHaye was killed, which I thought was a definite possibility, there was still a chance that I could receive the result of his investigation myself.) MHaye, I got enough to confirm that you're not scum, unless you somehow anticipated my investigating you (which I tried to make sure you wouldn't) and posted something seriously deceptive. I can't technically confirm that you're not third-party, not that I seriously think you might be. I'm going to leave this one up to you. Do you want me to post the one sentence that I got from the PM you sent to Sis C? The sentence begins: "Guiri it..." To make this clear to everybody - I can confirm that the part of MHaye's PM that I saw contains a STRONG presumption that he is not scum (unless the PM was deliberately doctored, there's really no doubt about it). It's gonna be interesting to see what the result of the test was (if any). Personally I had Guiri down as strongly town. Was I right?
|
|
|
Post by Holy Moley! on May 29, 2011 20:31:14 GMT -5
Happy morning. Damn, Bill, you are scary good. Moley, I'm back to thinking you're town with Lightfoot flipping scum. Oh yeah, sorry, forgot. Vote: Ma'at.Rysto gets credit for this one. Let's make it four in a row...
|
|
|
Post by Rysto on May 29, 2011 20:32:26 GMT -5
Now that I'm over the elation of seeing another scum dead, I have one big concern. Who killed Lightfoot, given that our Vig is dead? I'm very worried about the alignment of that player.
|
|
|
Post by gnarlycharlie on May 29, 2011 20:37:39 GMT -5
Bill, that's 3 now. feels like Everafter all over again. nice WIFOM with the Scotsman plus the bonus of confirming Suburban. To make this clear to everybody - I can confirm that the part of MHaye's PM that I saw contains a STRONG presumption that he is not scum (unless the PM was deliberately doctored, there's really no doubt about it). It's gonna be interesting to see what the result of the test was (if any). Personally I had Guiri down as strongly town. Was I right? can you post the PM?
|
|
|
Post by Holy Moley! on May 29, 2011 20:43:25 GMT -5
Bill, that's 3 now. feels like Everafter all over again. nice WIFOM with the Scotsman plus the bonus of confirming Suburban. To make this clear to everybody - I can confirm that the part of MHaye's PM that I saw contains a STRONG presumption that he is not scum (unless the PM was deliberately doctored, there's really no doubt about it). It's gonna be interesting to see what the result of the test was (if any). Personally I had Guiri down as strongly town. Was I right? can you post the PM? I'm leaving that up to MHaye. If he has no objections, I'll post the sentence. If he doesn't want me to, well, I can still confirm that he's not scum unless the PM was deliberately doctored.
|
|
|
Post by gnarlycharlie on May 29, 2011 20:43:40 GMT -5
Oh yeah, sorry, forgot. Vote: Ma'at.Rysto gets credit for this one. Let's make it four in a row... did i miss something? i was going to vote since i won't be around much but your post stopped me.
|
|
|
Post by Rysto on May 29, 2011 20:49:52 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by Holy Moley! on May 29, 2011 20:54:39 GMT -5
Oh yeah, sorry, forgot. Vote: Ma'at.Rysto gets credit for this one. Let's make it four in a row... did i miss something? i was going to vote since i won't be around much but your post stopped me. I don't think so; I think it's fairly obvious which of the remaining players could be scum, and Ma'at sticks out like a beacon among those people at this point. As for who killed Lightfoot, well, if it's a third-party PRK then IMO they've made a big mistake in taking out scum at this point - they're setting themselves up to fail at the endgame. Hopefully it turns out to be a backup vig or something (although that would probably mean we're still looking for three scum, not two - otherwise this game would be just too unbalanced in favour of the town.)
|
|
|
Post by Rysto on May 29, 2011 20:57:36 GMT -5
As for who killed Lightfoot, well, if it's a third-party PRK then IMO they've made a big mistake in taking out scum at this point - they're setting themselves up to fail at the endgame. That very much depends on a potential SK's win condition. I've seen at least one win-stealing SK that just had to be alive when either the town or the scum had to hit their win condition. And as to a backup Vig, lol. You do remember who you're talking to, don't you?
|
|
|
Post by Holy Moley! on May 29, 2011 21:09:34 GMT -5
As for who killed Lightfoot, well, if it's a third-party PRK then IMO they've made a big mistake in taking out scum at this point - they're setting themselves up to fail at the endgame. That very much depends on a potential SK's win condition. I've seen at least one win-stealing SK that just had to be alive when either the town or the scum had to hit their win condition. And as to a backup Vig, lol. You do remember who you're talking to, don't you? Yes, DEATH. But as to the other possibility... so the town successfully kill / lynch every scum and third-party out there, at which point a SK comes in and steals the win just for surviving? That's the most gastardly thing I've heard in this game yet (and let's face it, it's got enough competition!)
|
|
|
Post by gnarlycharlie on May 29, 2011 21:20:53 GMT -5
thanks. you make good points. for now, Vote CatInaSuitfor the same reason yesterDay. he broke the tie between Archangel and Squink.
|
|
|
Post by septimus on May 29, 2011 21:33:30 GMT -5
Wow! Bill Mc's top three candidates for Scum have all flipped ... Scum. ... otherwise this game would be just too unbalanced in favour of the town. I'm doubtful of this. How many Sexton points are awarded for even a vanilla BillMc ? @ Bill - I'm curious what your profession is. Are you a CIA recruiter or a CIA analyst? But you're not completely infallible. At one point you suspected septimus. I'm so awed by your scum-hunting skills that I had to recheck my role PM. I was happy to discover again that: I am Town. I think Rysto may be Town also. I wasn't "building a case" against him, just pointing out a single possible scum-tell. If a single scum-tell is worth a case, I should have been Lynched long ago. ... I was going to Vote for CatInaSuit just now for one simple reason: the tie-breaking rule makes it good to get an early vote on likely Scum. But on preview I see guiri has already attended to that. So, since I'm far from 100% confident that Cat is Scum (mainly because he's acting too Scummy!) I will abstain for the present.
|
|
|
Post by septimus on May 29, 2011 21:41:44 GMT -5
I'm so excited by this game I turned on Internet and keyboard as soon as I woke up, without pausing for even a cup of coffee. (1) I'm doubtful of this. (2)But on preview I see guiri has already attended to that. (1) Reverse the sense here. (2) gnarly, not guiriAny medical personnel here? What's the Latin word for "even more of a clumsy idiot than usual when he hasn't had his coffee"?
|
|
|
Post by Sister Coyote on May 30, 2011 0:04:22 GMT -5
Mod's getting old and it's past her bedtime vote count:
Ma'at (2,2)*: Rysto [4], Honest Moley [7] Archangel (2,0) gnarlycharlie (1,0) CatInaSuit (0,0): gnarlycharlie [16]
With these votes, Ma'at will be lynched.
Final Votes and Penalty Votes do not count as "first votes" for purposes of tiebreaking. <- from the Rules thread Breakdown: person with votes (number of votes, max number of votes): person voting for [post voted in]
In the event of a tie, the player who was voted for first during the Day (even if that vote has subsequently been removed) will be marked with an asterisk.
|
|
|
Post by Ma'at on May 30, 2011 1:26:25 GMT -5
i've spent the evening pouting since i have two votes on me at the very start of D5, but I'm (mostly) over it. I will say to Rysto and Moley that you're on the wrong track with me and I hope you don't feel like you can sit back and relax because you've placed your vote. Your vote is wrong, and you should continue looking for actual scum. I've explained my reasoning and you've chosen not to believe it (which of course your choice). But hopefully you will see the error of your ways, or at least be open to changing your vote should a better scum candidate become apparent (and hopefully one will, since I am not scum). Now, on to business. Looks as though Gnarley Charlie has a vote on him from nowhere, and his vote still does not count against CIAS. His nowhere vote must be different from Archangel's penalty votes, since his is only 1. Seems as though he's garnering attention from 1 or more players, or maybe it's something related to his role that is causing his vote to no longer be counted? I'm sure there will be interesting theories..... I noticed that Lightfoot voted CIAS close to end of day yesterday, purposefully not voting for Squink (whose lynch was a forgone conclusion at that point) so that she could leave a record. Now, was she placing it there so as to throw us off track from another scum (since she had already garnered much suspicion from Bill and maybe others), or to try to get something going against a townie? Too late in the day to get something going D4, but CIAS has also attracted his share of suspicion, so maybe she wanted to try to earn some townie brownie points. Lastly, I'm still not all that happy about Archangel's new explanation that her vote on Meeko was an attempt to get scum to jump on an Archangel bandwagon. It was a badly placed vote, so why would it also not make townies suspicious? But we'll see how today plays out for scummy candidates...
|
|
|
Post by guiri on May 30, 2011 3:38:51 GMT -5
It's gonna be interesting to see what the result of the test was (if any). Personally I had Guiri down as strongly town. Was I right? Nope. I'll be away Tuesday and Wednesday so, in case MHaye doesn't check in before tonight, here's my PM: I thought I was doing pretty well, please don't kill me!
|
|
|
Post by Holy Moley! on May 30, 2011 4:59:10 GMT -5
It's gonna be interesting to see what the result of the test was (if any). Personally I had Guiri down as strongly town. Was I right? Nope. I'll be away Tuesday and Wednesday so, in case MHaye doesn't check in before tonight, here's my PM: I thought I was doing pretty well, please don't kill me! MOTHERHUMPER. Wrong again, right reasons! I was pretty certain you weren't scum anyway... Would you care to write, in an easily-checkable format, that the Role PM that you posted in reply #21 of this thread is your complete and unaltered mod-provided role description? Something like this: "The Role PM that I posted in reply #21 of this thread is my complete unaltered mod-provided role description." Sans quotes.
|
|
|
Post by guiri on May 30, 2011 5:06:16 GMT -5
The Role PM that I posted in reply #21 of this thread is my complete unaltered mod-provided role description.
|
|
|
Post by BillMc on May 30, 2011 5:15:57 GMT -5
Well it's been quite a while since I've seen a Day 5.
I would guess that the Joat had a one shot kill and took out Lightfoot.
Town: Plankton, MHaye Most Probably Town: Story, Moley, Archangel, Ma'at
So that leaves probably two scum from: Rysto, Ginger, Charlie, Cais, Septimus, Guiri
I see Guiri has now claimed 3rd party survivor. Guiri is very good at this game and I find it very difficult to get a read on him either way. Personally, I prefer a statement of "I am not scum" for the LD, as a false reading of "I am town" does not clarify whether someone is scum or 3rd party.
Assuming there are two scum left, and if someone does have a day vig power, we *could* win this toDay.
I propose a mass claim, and would suggest the following order:
Rysto Ginger CAIS Charlie Septimus Archangel Ma'at Story
|
|
|
Post by BillMc on May 30, 2011 5:17:47 GMT -5
I'm doubtful of this. How many Sexton points are awarded for even a vanilla BillMc ? @ Bill - I'm curious what your profession is. Are you a CIA recruiter or a CIA analyst? I work for a software company - my job involves a lot of customer/market analysis.
|
|
Merestil Haye
FGM
Grudge Keeper
[on:Slumming it in the Middle-Earth][of:In the halls of Manw
Posts: 1,077
[ Exalt | Smite ]
Karma:
|
Post by Merestil Haye on May 30, 2011 5:36:25 GMT -5
*sigh*
Dammit Guiri, I was so annoyed when I read SIster C's reply. You were supposed to be an additional thorn in the side of the Mafia.
Let's top-and-tail.
I sent this to Sister Coyote.I've kept my reasoning in case Moley got one of the sentences in the middle.
Sister C replied.
Now, we face a choice Today. If Guiri is telling the truth, lynching him would be a mislynch. This is because the Mafia wincon is not to outnumber Town, but to "control the vote." Guiri, while he lives, will be an obstacle in the way of the Mafia winning, unless he defects.
There's an argument for lynching him anyway, just to avoid him defecting. While, at the moment, I suspect that we have enough mislynches to get away with spending one on insuring ourselves against a third party turned traitor, the mere fact that we have those mislynches might motivate Guiri to stay on the straight and narrow.
Of course, there is always the possibility that Guiri is a lying liar who lied about being a Survivor. If that's the case we should hang him high. Decisions decisions.
Guiri has stated unequivocally that his posted PM is true and unaltered. So, I'm not going to advocate for his lynch Today. Tonight I can test D05.023 and see whether he's telling the truth. Whether I will or not I'll decide after Dusk.
|
|
|
Post by BillMc on May 30, 2011 6:04:41 GMT -5
The Role PM that I posted in reply #21 of this thread is my complete unaltered mod-provided role description. Would you mind extending that statement? "The Role PM that I posted in reply #21 of this thread is my complete original unaltered mod-provided role description" ie, it is not a cover role provided by the mod.
|
|
|
Post by guiri on May 30, 2011 6:34:47 GMT -5
The Role PM that I posted in reply #21 of this thread is my complete original unaltered mod-provided role description.
|
|
|
Post by gnarlycharlie on May 30, 2011 7:43:52 GMT -5
Well it's been quite a while since I've seen a Day 5. I would guess that the Joat had a one shot kill and took out Lightfoot. Town: Plankton, MHaye Most Probably Town: Story, Moley, Archangel, Ma'at So that leaves probably two scum from: Rysto, Ginger, Charlie, Cais, Septimus, Guiri I see Guiri has now claimed 3rd party survivor. Guiri is very good at this game and I find it very difficult to get a read on him either way. Personally, I prefer a statement of "I am not scum" for the LD, as a false reading of "I am town" does not clarify whether someone is scum or 3rd party. Assuming there are two scum left, and if someone does have a day vig power, we *could* win this toDay. I propose a mass claim, and would suggest the following order: Rysto Ginger CAIS Charlie Septimus Archangel Ma'at Story i'm amenable to a mass claim although it will likely end an exciting game. ;D any reasons for the order? it seems the one you trust the most are last. wouldn't you want it the other way around? masons would be first if there were in this game.
|
|