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Day 1
Jul 2, 2011 15:49:39 GMT -5
Post by LightFoot on Jul 2, 2011 15:49:39 GMT -5
If that's the case, I'd ask Trepa to post his role PM. Look, see, I'm a lemur. Right there, it says LEMUS, better known as...wait. I appear to have screwed up again. That was not so hard ( and the Mod appears to have given vanilla an out) match speed w/ Trepa outrun texcat for reasons stated earlier.............. the obvious flaw in the logic that the elephant should not tell us who they find is Town ( Scum already know that)
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Jul 2, 2011 15:53:09 GMT -5
Post by LightFoot on Jul 2, 2011 15:53:09 GMT -5
NETA I still maintain my case on Treba but the lack of a saving band wagon and the newest information make 'some " sense
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Day 1
Jul 2, 2011 16:37:31 GMT -5
Post by guiri on Jul 2, 2011 16:37:31 GMT -5
Ah, you've received a cover PM. Ignoring all the rabid stuff for a moment, you're telling us that your PM said "You are a Lemming (Vanilla Town)", not "You are Vanilla Town" or "You are a Lemming and Vanilla Town", but when Silver Jan suggested that all scum may be the same animal and that other players would understand why she thinks that, your response was: The only way Silver Jan would know what other players had in their PMs is if she were mason or scum. And since I don't think she's claiming scum, she's claiming mason. And suggested that if she wasn't a mason, the other masons should counter-claim her? Nice try. I'm even more confident in my vote.
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Day 1
Jul 2, 2011 16:47:48 GMT -5
Post by LightFoot on Jul 2, 2011 16:47:48 GMT -5
Ah, you've received a cover PM. Ignoring all the rabid stuff for a moment, you're telling us that your PM said "You are a Lemming (Vanilla Town)", not "You are Vanilla Town" or "You are a Lemming and Vanilla Town", but when Silver Jan suggested that all scum may be the same animal and that other players would understand why she thinks that, your response was: The only way Silver Jan would know what other players had in their PMs is if she were mason or scum. And since I don't think she's claiming scum, she's claiming mason. And suggested that if she wasn't a mason, the other masons should counter-claim her? Nice try. I'm even more confident in my vote. In that light it is not impossible that I am wrong with my unvote. Treba did wait til someone else gave a clue
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Day 1
Jul 2, 2011 17:11:29 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Jul 2, 2011 17:11:29 GMT -5
Ah, you've received a cover PM. Ignoring all the rabid stuff for a moment, you're telling us that your PM said "You are a Lemming (Vanilla Town)", not "You are Vanilla Town" or "You are a Lemming and Vanilla Town", but when Silver Jan suggested that all scum may be the same animal and that other players would understand why she thinks that, your response was: The only way Silver Jan would know what other players had in their PMs is if she were mason or scum. And since I don't think she's claiming scum, she's claiming mason. And suggested that if she wasn't a mason, the other masons should counter-claim her? Nice try. I'm even more confident in my vote. I never, ever ever suggested that the Masons should claim. I resemble that remark very strongly and if you can't come up with an answer as to why you said that then you will get my vote.
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Day 1
Jul 2, 2011 17:18:04 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Jul 2, 2011 17:18:04 GMT -5
Oh, why wait, I am mad at the smudge
Outrun guiri
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Jul 2, 2011 17:21:42 GMT -5
Post by guiri on Jul 2, 2011 17:21:42 GMT -5
I never, ever ever suggested that the Masons should claim. I resemble that remark very strongly and if you can't come up with an answer as to why you said that then you will get my vote. I was responding and referring to Trepa, not you. Okay, the scum can figure it out with this post, so let's not dance. Jan is soft-claiming mason. I'll buy that for now. No need for the other one to claim for now. If Jan is truthful, she'll probably be NKed soonish (since the doc needs to protect the cop first). If she's not, the real masons can counter-claim whenever they need to.
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Day 1
Jul 2, 2011 17:36:46 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Jul 2, 2011 17:36:46 GMT -5
OOOPS I was wrong, sorry Keep pace with guiriThis bold and colour is driving me crackers, thank goodnes for preview.
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Day 1
Jul 2, 2011 18:00:43 GMT -5
Post by moodymitchy on Jul 2, 2011 18:00:43 GMT -5
Look, see, I'm a lemur. Right there, it says LEMUS, better known as...wait. I appear to have screwed up again. That was not so hard ( and the Mod appears to have given vanilla an out) match speed w/ Trepa outrun texcat for reasons stated earlier.............. the obvious flaw in the logic that the elephant should not tell us who they find is Town ( Scum already know that) Bolding and enlarging mine.... WHAT An out for vanilla I'm not buying that at all. IF Trepa Mayfield is actually telling the truth, then all he might have done is provided SCUM with the perfect layout of what a Vanilla role PM might look like... which to me is ANTI TOWN as it now gives SCUM an easy cover PM to pass on when they fear they might be for the rope.. (or the tranquilliser gun or what ever other method we will be using to send these fine creatures off to the glue factory). Of course as has been mentioned... SCUM could have been provided with a cover PM at the start of the game... which I feel is more likely as it's been a while since I played in a game where a sample Vanilla PM wasn't posted somewhere for all to see
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Jul 2, 2011 18:28:42 GMT -5
Post by LightFoot on Jul 2, 2011 18:28:42 GMT -5
@ Mitchy you skeered me (yelling like that)
both work and I did say "appears"
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Day 1
Jul 2, 2011 23:28:34 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Jul 2, 2011 23:28:34 GMT -5
Vote Count
Trepa Mayfield (6) : Guiri,Colby11, Suburban Plankton, Captain Pinkies, Cassidy Scarlet, Archangel Colby11 (3) : Gnarlycharlie, Sister Coyote, Trepa Mayfield Special Ed (1) : Fubbleskag Sister Coyote (1) : Moodymitchy CassidyScarlet (1) : JustBeingGinger Texcat (1) : LightFoot
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My [work] schedule is going back to back on me here. Just got home and I've got to turn right around for a morning shift tommorow.
While I am prepared to end the day on time, I am not sure how many vote count updates I can provide on Sunday.
Just to keep you guys informed here.
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Day 1
Jul 3, 2011 8:28:46 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Jul 3, 2011 8:28:46 GMT -5
gnarlycharlie pointed out something that I hadn't noticed, but which is bugging me now. Trepa has been the de facto Lynchee for quite some time now, and there seems to have been no effort to get a bandwagon going anywhere else. Would the Scum be that easily willing to sacrifice one of their own on Day 1? I mean, the case against Trepa is at least as good as any other case Today, but it's not exactly a slam dunk. I'm starting to wonder if we're about to make a mistake. Posting as I read and catch up. Yes, I think the Scum might be that easily wiling to sacrifice one of their own on Day 1, if it appears inevitable. If Trepa is Scum, the other Scum would be taking a terrible risk by actively trying to sway the vote at this stage. Such an action would really stand out once the theoretically-Scum Trepa was dead and had flipped. Losing a Scum-mate on Day 1 would be bad for the Scum, but losing a Scum-mate AND exposing one or more of the survivors would be really bad.
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Day 1
Jul 3, 2011 8:28:47 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Jul 3, 2011 8:28:47 GMT -5
gnarlycharlie pointed out something that I hadn't noticed, but which is bugging me now. Trepa has been the de facto Lynchee for quite some time now, and there seems to have been no effort to get a bandwagon going anywhere else. Would the Scum be that easily willing to sacrifice one of their own on Day 1? I mean, the case against Trepa is at least as good as any other case Today, but it's not exactly a slam dunk. I'm starting to wonder if we're about to make a mistake. Posting as I read and catch up. Yes, I think the Scum might be that easily wiling to sacrifice one of their own on Day 1, if it appears inevitable. If Trepa is Scum, the other Scum would be taking a terrible risk by actively trying to sway the vote at this stage. Such an action would really stand out once the theoretically-Scum Trepa was dead and had flipped. Losing a Scum-mate on Day 1 would be bad for the Scum, but losing a Scum-mate AND exposing one or more of the survivors would be really bad.
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Day 1
Jul 3, 2011 8:37:00 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Jul 3, 2011 8:37:00 GMT -5
I have no idea why that posted twice. OK, I've caught up.
Step 1: Jan, given that you have also claimed lemming, can you say whether or not your role PM matches the one posted by Trepa?
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Day 1
Jul 3, 2011 9:17:34 GMT -5
Post by guiri on Jul 3, 2011 9:17:34 GMT -5
Step 1: Jan, given that you have also claimed lemming, can you say whether or not your role PM matches the one posted by Trepa? She said it sounded very similar and then unvoted: Hehehehehe not sure wether to believe you or not but that was funny and it does sound so similar to my PM LOL. Hey you made me choke on Wine, you owe me ;D
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Jul 3, 2011 9:27:12 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Jul 3, 2011 9:27:12 GMT -5
I'm asking whether it's similar or identical.
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Day 1
Jul 3, 2011 11:24:46 GMT -5
Post by LightFoot on Jul 3, 2011 11:24:46 GMT -5
I'm asking whether it's similar or identical. Good point
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Day 1
Jul 3, 2011 11:58:06 GMT -5
Post by LightFoot on Jul 3, 2011 11:58:06 GMT -5
ALSO If Jan is not a Mason, and continues to let everyone think she is . Then she is lying by omission. There is nothing wrong with a lie of omission in this game. It's lies of commission (e.g., I claim I'm a watcher [not a claim] and on Day Three I claim Night One I saw SoSo visit SuchSuch and on Night Two I saw SuchSuch visit NoNo, only SuchSuch is known to be vanilla and YES, I've been in a game where this happened) that are the problem. I disagree with part of this. It’s moot in this case now, but IF Jan had kept quiet and allowed everyone to ass/u/me she was a Mason, she would have been a lying liar who lies (Scum candidate). By what she didn’t say . Although I can see where if MIMI stated that they thought PoPo was the Doc ( where PoPo is vanilla ) it is a benefit to the real Doc to allow that to be left unclarified. As I said it is a moot point in this instance but I wanted to hear your response to my thought process
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Day 1
Jul 3, 2011 12:19:46 GMT -5
Post by texcat on Jul 3, 2011 12:19:46 GMT -5
I dunno. 5 scum might be mathematically right, but for a 20 person game it just feels a bit high, ya know? I'd put it at equal odds that there are 4 or 5 rabids out there, and one of them is probably a GF/roleblocker (did Monsieur* Meeko say anything about if those were a possibility? I forgot.) *Originally this was "sirrah", but I looked it up and apparently sirrah is "a contemptuous form of address". The more you know! NETA: He said there weren't any. So that lends more credence to the 5-person scum team theory. Looking back at Trepa's post, I am still unconvinced that his use of the term rabid is a scum slip. He claims he coined the term, and I think that is a likely explanation, since in the same post he also refers to Meeko as "Monsieur Meeko", and discusses his use of that term. The scum were known to have rabies and so rabids makes sense, but Meeko is not French, as far as I know.
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Day 1
Jul 3, 2011 12:22:58 GMT -5
Post by LightFoot on Jul 3, 2011 12:22:58 GMT -5
Quoting moodymitchy (quote tags don't want to post right) [quote author=moodymitchy board=afaf thread=1649 post=80156 time=1309647643 ~~snip~~ WHAT An out for vanilla I'm not buying that at all. IF Trepa Mayfield is actually telling the truth, then all he might have done is provided SCUM with the perfect layout of what a Vanilla role PM might look like... which to me is ANTI TOWN as it now gives SCUM an easy cover PM to pass on when they fear they might be for the rope.. (or the tranquilliser gun or what ever other method we will be using to send these fine creatures off to the glue factory). Of course as has been mentioned... SCUM could have been provided with a cover PM at the start of the game... which I feel is more likely as it's been a while since I played in a game where a sample Vanilla PM wasn't posted somewhere for all to see[/quote] IF Treba is Town the claim was asked for and the only possible saving grace from the lynch. It is Pro –Treba . It does flip somewhat anti-Town as you stated but under the circumstances what would you have done? Since a sample was not supplied to us I ass/u/med (bad girl) that one had not been supplied to Scum either. I may be off there of course. I’m not giving a free card to anyone here just reasoning things out. I stated earlier I still like my case against Treba but I backed off (for now) the game that I’ve been trying to build I did just that with vanilla roles ( an unintentional out) and now must edit
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Day 1
Jul 3, 2011 12:45:14 GMT -5
Post by texcat on Jul 3, 2011 12:45:14 GMT -5
I agree with Trepa's reasoning. If an animal does have rabies, they are called a rabid animal. I don't think that should warrant a vote. Maybe the fact that I live out in the country helps with that reasoning. My thoughts on Trepa Rereading her first post, it does seem kinda odd about how she slipped in Rabid in WHILE she was also talking about scum. It does seem odd, rereading it. I have no problem with the term, but the way that she used it in her first post does seem odd, interchanging it with scum. That, and the fact that she keeps trying to lynch the people who haven't really contributed since day 1 leads me to Outrun Trepa Mayfield I still have a problem with these two posts by Colby. First he acknowledges that rabid is a correct term for one with rabies. Then on second thought, he has a problem with Trepa using it for the scum with rabies. Whether you call this a flip-flop, or a change of heart, or a change of mind, I still find is suspicious. It looks to me like a rabid Colby knew there was nothing wrong with the term and said so. Then reconsidering, decided it would be an easy place for his vote. I second that, What?! Care to describe in detail why? I wouldn't think that all of the scum would be the same animal, because I think we're all supposed to be different animals, since I take it that each animal is a character, and no two people can be the same character I'm not sure what to make of this post except that it seems to eliminate Colby from the vanilla pool. Given his positionS on Trepa, I think it likely that it puts him in the scum pool. I vote to Outrun Colby.
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Day 1
Jul 3, 2011 14:11:59 GMT -5
Post by cassidyscarlet on Jul 3, 2011 14:11:59 GMT -5
Looking closer at Colby's post (and I don't care to quote the post above mine, since that would be like quadruple posts, so just know it's the one where he says "I wouldn't think that all of the scum would be the same animal, because I think we're all supposed to be different animals, since I take it that each animal is a character, and no two people can be the same character"), I actually find that to be pretty damn suspicious. I'm not saying it clears Trepa, since Colby could have easily been initially trying to save him then realized it might make him look bad.
Since the post is already out there from Trepa about being a Lemming, and someone else saying that it was very similar to theirs, I can safely say (without saying whether I am vanilla, mason, or doctor) that the vanilla town is most likely a lemming. Now if, hypothetically, I got a vanilla town pm and it told me I was a lemming, who are famously (and incorrectly) known for their GROUP mentality of doing stupid things together (aka sheep), which is more likely: that I come to the conclusion that all the other vanilla town are lemmings, or that I assume everyone has a different animal?
Match Pace: Trepa Outrun: Colby
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Day 1
Jul 3, 2011 14:20:04 GMT -5
Post by JustBeingGinger on Jul 3, 2011 14:20:04 GMT -5
Sorry that I have not been around, the laptop at my parent's house is so so slow that it took 10 min just for this page to load. I am hoping that this posts. I have tried to post at least 3 times before and the webpage times out... I cannot even read it on my Blackberry, there is no cell coverage here. I have read the case on Colby a little bit. I cannot go back through 10 pages, that would take hours for me. I will try to be around for day end but no promise. I will be more active when I get back home. I am posting, cross fingers.
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Day 1
Jul 3, 2011 14:27:41 GMT -5
Post by LightFoot on Jul 3, 2011 14:27:41 GMT -5
@ cassidayscarlet "interesting" use of colour
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Day 1
Jul 3, 2011 14:31:17 GMT -5
Post by special on Jul 3, 2011 14:31:17 GMT -5
Day 1 has started. Day 1 will end July 3 at 12:01 AM. Night will end July 5th at 12:01 am. I am open to extending Night 1 because of the July 4th Holiday, if enough people ask for it.Did we change the end time of the game? Or is it over?
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Day 1
Jul 3, 2011 14:31:33 GMT -5
Post by special on Jul 3, 2011 14:31:33 GMT -5
NETA, not game, but Day
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Day 1
Jul 3, 2011 14:33:08 GMT -5
Post by special on Jul 3, 2011 14:33:08 GMT -5
Day 1 has started. Day 1 will end July 3 at 12:01 AM. Night will end July 5th at 12:01 am. I am open to extending Night 1 because of the July 4th Holiday, if enough people ask for it. Changes to Day 1, Night 1 and Day 2 follow.
Day 1 now ends early morning on the 4th, 12:01 am. Night 1 will start July 4 12:01 am and end July 7 at 12:01 am. Now, I know this doesn't actually remove July 4th from happening. My response to that is to also extend Day 2. I would like to get to a Day during the week - Night on the weekend -type schedule. I would rather do this earlier rather than later. My intention is to get Sunday through Thursday for Day, Friday and Saturday for Night. Day 2 will be from July 7 12:01 am until July 15 12:01 am. This will make Night 2 starting on July 15 12:01 am ending July 17 12:01 am. Day 3 July 17 12:01 am --- July 22 12:01 am, Night 3 July 22 12:01 am --- July 24 12:01 am. The structure for Day 3 / Night 3 will be used for all subsequent Cycles.Never mind, I found it. I thought there was a change. It sure makes me wish there were a rules thread ;D
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Day 1
Jul 3, 2011 14:34:30 GMT -5
Post by guiri on Jul 3, 2011 14:34:30 GMT -5
Looking closer at Colby's post (and I don't care to quote the post above mine, since that would be like quadruple posts, so just know it's the one where he says "I wouldn't think that all of the scum would be the same animal, because I think we're all supposed to be different animals, since I take it that each animal is a character, and no two people can be the same character"), I actually find that to be pretty damn suspicious. I'm not saying it clears Trepa, since Colby could have easily been initially trying to save him then realized it might make him look bad. Since the post is already out there from Trepa about being a Lemming, and someone else saying that it was very similar to theirs, I can safely say (without saying whether I am vanilla, mason, or doctor) that the vanilla town is most likely a lemming. Now if, hypothetically, I got a vanilla town pm and it told me I was a lemming, who are famously (and incorrectly) known for their GROUP mentality of doing stupid things together (aka sheep), which is more likely: that I come to the conclusion that all the other vanilla town are lemmings, or that I assume everyone has a different animal? How does any of this make Colby a better lynch candidate than Trepa? I made almost the same argument about Trepa in addition to the "rabid" stuff.
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Day 1
Jul 3, 2011 14:36:03 GMT -5
Post by guiri on Jul 3, 2011 14:36:03 GMT -5
Did we change the end time of the game? Or is it over? There's still time for you to vote...
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Day 1
Jul 3, 2011 14:43:45 GMT -5
Post by guiri on Jul 3, 2011 14:43:45 GMT -5
OOG- I will be leaving Friday for a camping trip, and I don't think I'll be back til after the end of the day. End OOG OOG I will not be back until after the end of the day, because of the camping trip mentioned earlier, plus I have a funeral to go to (it's been a long week). end OOG I strongly dislike the vote switch to Colby given that he said he wouldn't be around till after the end of the Day and so won't be able to defend himself or claim. Let Fubbles investigate him (if he so wishes).
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