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Post by Gir! on Oct 25, 2007 17:51:10 GMT -5
The new day dawn with an especially bright and warm sunrise. As the townsfolk begin gathering for the daily meeting, they quickly discover the reason for the brightness and warmth...one of the town residences is on fire!
With a burst of community spirit, the people rush with buckets and hoses to douse the fire, but it's too late for the unfortunate arson victim. A charred corpse is pulled from the building's remains; however, it comes as no surprise when one of the rescuers points out the coloring of the corpse's hands.
ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies aka Hand of Blue, an Alliance investigator, has been killed.
A cheer begins to grow from the crowd. A few even begin to smile as they resume their walk to the central port for the day's discussion.
Smiles that disappear when they arrive to see another body sprawled in the street, strangled and then left with a rope knotted around her neck.
mtgman aka Yolanda? Saffron? Bridget? (Yo-Saff-Bridge), a Survivor, has been killed.
Day Seven will end no later than Tuesday, October 30, 3:30 PM Pacific Time, 5:30 PM Central Time.
Alive:
CatinaSuit Dnooman dotchanV3 (replaces Mad the Swine) Hal Briston Hockey Monkey Idle Thoughts mhaye nesta (replaces sinjin) panamajack Roosh whatthefrak Zeriel v.2 (replaces Yattara)
Dead:
dotchan (nee Zuma): Lynched Day One - Ramiro: Vanilla Crew diggitcamara: Killed Night Two - Sheng Sanchez: Mason Greedy Smurf: Killed Night Two - The Operative: Serial Killer ui (nee tragic): Lynched Day Two - Badger: Vanilla Crew zeriel: Killed Night Three - Shepherd Book: Vanilla Crew drain bead: Lynched Day Three - Kaylee Fry: Alliance Roleblocker atarus: Killed Night Four - Captain Malcolm Reynolds, Crew Investigator Flying Cow of Doom: Killed Night Four - Connor Phillips, Vanilla Crew Diomedes: Modkilled Day Four - Mr. Universe, Watcher Blaster Master: Killed Night Five - Durran Haymer, Vanilla Crew storyteller: Killed Night Five - Monty, Vanilla Crew dotchan v2.0 (nee CaerieD): Lynched Day Five - Jubal Early, Bounty Hunter Captain Klutz: Nightkilled Night Six - Hand of Blue, Alliance Agent Pygmy Rugger: Lynched Day Six - Lawrence Dobson, Alliance Godfather ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies: Killed Night Seven - Hand of Blue, Alliance Investigator mtgman: Killed Night Seven - Yo-Saff-Bridge, Survivor
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day will end immediately if anyone reaches 7 votes (no countdown, no unvotes will count after 7 is reached). If no one receives 7 votes by Dusk, no lynch will occur.
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Post by Hal Briston on Oct 25, 2007 17:56:02 GMT -5
Oooo...very clever, scum...a preemptive Cookies crumbling...
And what the hell is a "Survivor"?
And how ironic is the line "...a Survivor, has been killed."?
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Oct 25, 2007 17:56:04 GMT -5
Bah. GO SCUM!!!
Though this will surely inspire controversy...I made one (and only one) "slip" in this game, and it was on Night 6.
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Post by NAF1138 on Oct 25, 2007 18:15:02 GMT -5
Oooo...very clever, scum...a preemptive Cookies crumbling... And what the guay is a "Survivor"? And how ironic is the line "...a Survivor, has been killed."?He won with any side as long as he was alive when the game ended.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Oct 25, 2007 18:30:42 GMT -5
Maybe the scum didn't kill Cookies off? Whatever the second killing group/person is, they obviously did it. A Vig? My guess is: The Vig is pro-Town and didn't want to chance killing off someone who could be Town also...they had a sure bet in Cookies and took it.
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Post by mtgman on Oct 25, 2007 18:37:12 GMT -5
Beware the Jabberwock!
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Post by Zeriel on Oct 25, 2007 18:48:59 GMT -5
Didn't we already kill a few Vigs and psuedo-vigs? Also, this significantly cuts down on the plausibility of those weirdo killing powers such as Cookies made up being in the game.
Part of me is therefore leaning towards Roosh. Beyond that? Not sure where to go.
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Post by Hockey Monkey! on Oct 25, 2007 19:06:09 GMT -5
Hmmm, this is interesting. I was all ready to vote for Cookies. I'm on my way home and will have further contemplations later in the evening. Ironically, after Survivor. ;D
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Post by Merestil Haye on Oct 25, 2007 19:15:44 GMT -5
I strongly suspect most of us were ready to vote for DarkCookies. Everyone except Cookies, in fact.
Who else is out there? Don't ask me. Not until the weekend anyway.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Oct 25, 2007 19:27:04 GMT -5
Didn't we already kill a few Vigs and psuedo-vigs? Also, this significantly cuts down on the plausibility of those weirdo killing powers such as Cookies made up being in the game. Part of me is therefore leaning towards Roosh. Beyond that? Not sure where to go. We haven't killed any Vigs to my knowledge...
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Post by dnooman on Oct 25, 2007 19:47:53 GMT -5
Hmmm. Seems someone saved us the trouble of killing cookies. Now what?
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Post by Hockey Monkey! on Oct 25, 2007 20:48:37 GMT -5
Kat, you may want to update your dead list...Idle Thoughts was miraculously revived after a slight mix up by the Grim Reaper.
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Post by Zeriel on Oct 25, 2007 22:04:47 GMT -5
Idle, I suppose I have to admit that I lump all non-scum nightkillers into the same mental category--the sad fact is that, SK or Vig, they're gonna kill more townies than not and so I worry.
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Post by Death By Irony on Oct 25, 2007 22:15:22 GMT -5
- Full Claims - *CatinaSuit: Wash (Vanilla) *Dnooman: Sherriff Bourne (Vanilla) *Mad the Swine, replaced by dotchan v3: Hector Sanchez (Mason) *Roosh: Inara Serra (50% Bomb) *whatthefrak: Zoe (50% Bodyguard) *Idle Thoughts: Simon Tam (Mod-Confirmed, 50% Doc) *Hal: River Tam (investigated as River by dotchanV2, also claimed a one-shot vigilante kill he used on Idle Thoughts Night 5)
- Claimed Crew - *sinjin/nesta (also claimed some sort of power) *hockeymonkey (also investigated by Diomedes as sleeping on Night 3) *mhaye
- Others of Note - *panamajack (claimed to be attacked Night 2) *Yattara/zeriel (investigated by Diomedes as sleeping on Night 2)
Okay. Everybody alive has claimed something or other. Obviously somebody is lying, so...
FoS Roosh, both for surviving so many Nights and also his playstyle that I found him scummy for in Asylum Lane; right now I can't decide if he's doing the same "wall to wall townie" approach or banking on his Reputation (tm) to drown us in noise.
FoS whatthefrak for the same reason, and he's been skating by on very little participation so far. I'm almost tempted to ask him for a list of who he's been protecting, but I don't know how useful that information would be.
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Post by RoOsh on Oct 25, 2007 22:21:18 GMT -5
I'm inclined too to believe we have a Vig.... one who has been hitting Scum, so I'm inclined to say, but now... We must figure out what's left....
And A "survivor" role is usually a person who is basically neutral: They win as long as they're alive at the end, regardless of if Alliance or Scum wins. I'll chalk that up as a "hey, at least a townie's not dead" sorta moment....
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Post by nesta on Oct 25, 2007 22:35:49 GMT -5
I guess the whole Fanty / Mingo thing was made out of whole cloth by Cookies then. Well played. It fit the canon / color very well.
I don’t think the alliance killed Cookies. I can’t think of a reason why they would. If she hadn’t been killed we would have wasted a day lynching her, with very little discussion of who else might be scum, and they would basically have a "free" night-kill. So I think we have a Vig or SK out there. Personally I'm leaning toward an SK, but that might be because I'm paranoid.
What does seem strange to me is that now I think the alliance purposely killed Captain Klutz. He was a hand of blue same as Cookies, so her comment about green lighting CK's death seems to be scum wanting to kill their own. We haven't seen any scum deaths show up as anything other than alliance, so other than a possible SK I'm starting to doubt there are multiple factions. Why would alliance kill their own, though? I'm not sure it's worth giving much thought to, but I bet it was part of some scheme that I hope we will now be able to avoid since we know the truth. As we look back at CK's interactions we should keep in mind that they thought his death would help confuse us somehow.
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Post by nesta on Oct 25, 2007 22:44:22 GMT -5
I'm inclined too to believe we have a Vig.... one who has been hitting Scum, so I'm inclined to say, but now... We must figure out what's left.... You might want to check the night-kills again. As far as I can see the only scum killed at night were CK and Cookies, and as I said in my last post I think the alliance killed CK for some reason. If we do have a Vig his only successful scum kill would be Cookies, and I think an SK would have as much reason to kill scum as a Vig at this point.
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Post by RoOsh on Oct 25, 2007 22:56:43 GMT -5
Yeah, you're right. The whole CK thing was w/ Cookies, i wasn't thinking.
my bad.
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Post by RoOsh on Oct 25, 2007 22:59:29 GMT -5
On the other hand, Posts like Post #20 by Mtgman during Night Seven is EXACTLY why I don't like talking during the night:
Tomorrow may not be as easy as you think. Re-analysis of a lot of stuff needs to happen in light of two people being scum. I'm working crazy hours these days and all I'd ask is that you guys give me 24 hours to get a chance to post some analysis of what I've noticed. Please hold off the hammer for that long at least.
Enjoy, Steven
Ominous final words....
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Post by RoOsh on Oct 26, 2007 0:21:56 GMT -5
I hate to do the dreaded triple posting.... But i've been reading through all of PanamaJack's posts. Yes, all 140 of them (-_-) I found it kinda a fascinating read, only because the Pirates game stuff one came up, I thought this was your first game, but it turns out you were Ben Grimm in Pirates too. I loved your post on "How to play Grimm". That was a great game that whole Mafia game.... And I'm glad I can put a better face now on you now PJ, you're not a newer person in my mind. a Fascinating read. But back to this game. On the whole, I'm inclined to believe you're not a good lynch option, and I believe the whole "attacked during day 2" thing. You've sure got some interesting ideas on the kills and such (from day 2, your little chart analysis and all), you've suggested the 3rd killing group as a possible Vig throughout the days, and I tend to agree (as mentioned above). But there is one post I am curious about... I think it may have been overlooking in the madness of Day 4 and Dio's modkilling. The one that gets me the most though is a single post: Day Four Reply #6 "Also, we do have another killer. I just saw a good man die, he's going to Disney World." -PJ Que? You state you saw the murder? I'm confused. Was that a reply to the craziness of the flavor? Or did something happen to you on Day 4/Night 3? It's just a very weird thing to say, and I'd like some more info on that post please. Thanks. Also *A suggestion now at this point* It's getting to the point in the game where there are more claimed NAMES (not roles!) than none claimed.... Just asking... should we consider the idea of revealing names (not roles!) at least in the upcoming days? /ducks behind a rock
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Post by CatInASuit on Oct 26, 2007 0:41:37 GMT -5
Hmm, I'm not dead, this is a good thing So, back to Cookies post and what we can understand from it. I submitted Hockey as an investigation choice to NAF via PM on the game boards already, but it was around 5:45pm, i.e. after the 5:00pm deadline on the news ticker. I had been scanning NAF's sig before, and actually thought Dawn was tomorrow because I wasn't really reading the first part of his sig until earlier today, just finding the Pacific time and assuming that was when the Night would end.
If we're being given the green light to kill CK then I think we should go for it, and that would mean I would be switching my investigation target to Hal. I have no idea when Pygmy thinks the Night ends, or if he has submitted any orders to NAF yet.
However it all gets decided by the Mods is fine with me. Now given that I doubt we would have suspected the scum killing their own, the only reason for killing CK is to either increase our certainty of two scum factions or use it to frame other players. I think that is why Cookies is saying she is shifting her choice of target from Hockey to Hal. I think they were going to use CK's death as a reason to get Hockey Monkey lynched. The only other reason I can think of for killing off one of their own is if they also have a recruit to make up the numbers later. And Cookies - you made four slips - trust me, you made four. Although I admit - you had me fooled after drainbead died. I would guess at 2 more scum + a recruit at some stage out of the remaining 12 players.
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Post by RoOsh on Oct 26, 2007 1:29:26 GMT -5
I'd guess just two more total scum left, but I'm an optimist currently.
Cuz I'm thinking of the SK too. So that'd make about 4 scum dead + 2 more possibly + 1 SK. That's already 7 Scum in a game of about 28 people.
25%-33% Scum ratios would mean about 7-9 Scum. and 9 seems like a lot. So I'd say yeah 7-8, but I'm counting the SK as a "scummy" role. Plus the scum have powers too it seems, so I'm willing to say 2 or maybe even 1.
but that's like the best case scenario: 28 People, and of those 1 SK, and 5 Scum w/ powers/abilities (Roleblocker and a cop and a Godfather so far we've seen, and i don't remember what Klutz was if anything.... Maybe a 1 time use thing that they could justify losing him for?)
But a recruit sounds possible too. Maybe that coulda been Klutz power? But if that was the case, we'd have to know more info on which nights Scum HAVEN'T been killing. So far its been in order from Night 2 thru last night: 2 kills, 1 kill, 2 kills, 3 kills, 1kill, 2 kills
Only Night 3 and 6 had 1 kills only....
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Post by Parzival on Oct 26, 2007 3:19:49 GMT -5
[quote author=roosh board=game thread=1193352670 post=1193376116
Day Four Reply #6 "Also, we do have another killer. I just saw a good man die, he's going to Disney World." -PJ
Que? You state you saw the murder? I'm confused. Was that a reply to the craziness of the flavor? Or did something happen to you on Day 4/Night 3?
It's just a very weird thing to say, and I'd like some more info on that post please. Thanks. [/quote]
Obscure lyrics quote, sorry. ("Dizz knee land" by Dada. It was semi-popular in the mid-90's, and with the repetitive refrain, it gets stuck in the head easily.) If I remember rightly, the victim (FCoD) was heading for Disney World IRL that day. (The proper lyric is actually, "I just saw a good man die, I'm going to Disneyland"). It popped into my head.
Glad you enjoyed my Ben (Gunn, not Grimm) post. (Though Thing would have made things interesting on The Hispaniola.)
That was the first night after Greedy's death we had two kills, which made me feel at least partly vindicated after my attack. That explains the first part of that statement - proof of a second (third, in the game) killer. Nothing more to it than that.
And while I originally thought that the second kills were coming from a Vig (given the way I thought the game was set up), I'm still entirely unsure. A second SK could have offed Cookies last night just as easily as a Vig.
One last thought before I go to bed: As for Cookies - why claim a role that might exist in the game? It had to be a pretty big risk to find a name that isn't likely to be taken. Unless Mingo and Fanty do exist - but are actually names of other scum. The scum investigator is a pretty powerful role; perhaps powerful enough that another scum player loaned her the name to use as cover. I don't know what bearing this has on the game, but it may mean something; more thought will need to be applied.
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Post by Death By Irony on Oct 26, 2007 9:33:11 GMT -5
But why would we have TWO serial killers at the start of the game? (Remember, the not-so-dearly-departed Greedy Smurf turned up as an SK already.)
The Nights with only 1 kill might be explanable as 1) a successful Doc protect or 2) one of the parties decided not to kill for whatever reason. I was also pondering the possibility of some sort of limited killing power (like they can only kill every other Night or something), but the deaths don't fit into a neat pattern like that.
Unless somebody has extra information that tells us the scum can recruit, I'd rather believe they can't, and that the scum were balanced either by extra numbers or extra powers. (At the start of the game, the town had a Cop, a Doc, a Watcher, two Masons, my previous role which apparently was some sort of one-shot vig creator, and whatever other power roles that might still be floating out there.)
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Post by NAF1138 on Oct 26, 2007 11:39:05 GMT -5
Hey folks. I haven't actually read the thread beyond my own post yet, so forgive me if Kat already added this, but the description of Cookies role was incomplete.
She was a scum special investigator looking for River. When she found River, River died. She was only able to determine if someone was River or not.
Now back to the game.
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Post by Hockey Monkey! on Oct 26, 2007 12:31:17 GMT -5
Even more confusing.
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Post by NAF1138 on Oct 26, 2007 13:07:56 GMT -5
I didn't say it would clarify things, I just said it was information you deserved.
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Post by Hal Briston on Oct 26, 2007 14:26:42 GMT -5
She was a scum special investigator looking for River. When she found River, River died. She was only able to determine if someone was River or not. <whew!>
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Post by Hal Briston on Oct 26, 2007 14:32:50 GMT -5
She was a scum special investigator looking for River. When she found River, River died. She was only able to determine if someone was River or not. Ya know...I'm confused. If her only valid investigation target was River, then why did Cookies have to switch from Hockey to me? What, did she think my role claim was some sort of elaborate misdirection ploy that Hockey and I put together, even though we can't speak privately? Something odd about this...
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Post by Hockey Monkey! on Oct 26, 2007 14:42:20 GMT -5
I'm wondering why she didn't take you out in the first place Hal. That's why I'm confused. You role claimed River...why did she want to investigate me before you?
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