|
Day One
Jan 12, 2012 22:58:29 GMT -5
Post by special on Jan 12, 2012 22:58:29 GMT -5
I find it strange that there seem to be a lot of people who say that they didn't request anything specific, and yet Ed claims he did, and did not get his first or second choices. I am assuming that someone is not telling the truth here. I trust Pleo when he said he would accomodate choices as best he could. So, if Ed is telling the truth, there are obviously some people who also requested Ed's first and second choices, and either we have not heard from them, or they are fibbing. Or, Ed is fibbing about his choices and/or role. For myself, I did not request any specific role or faction, but instead, said there were a few roles that I did not want to have. I think you have a faulty assumption. it could be that someone else requested those roles or those roles were not included in the game.
|
|
|
Day One
Jan 13, 2012 0:26:01 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Jan 13, 2012 0:26:01 GMT -5
I, too, didn't request any type of role, with my track record I thought it would be rather presumptuous of me to think I could do well in any specific role.
That being said, I have played in a game with factions before, although I am not sure if it was one of Pleo's, and I had a great time even though I was as confused as all hell in the beginning.
|
|
|
Day One
Jan 13, 2012 0:31:20 GMT -5
Post by Inner Stickler on Jan 13, 2012 0:31:20 GMT -5
Frankly, I couldn't deal with the stress. I used to love being power roles but lately I've come to love vanilla town. I can shoot the shit, have fun, nights are stressless and if I die, well, there's probably still a chance town can win.
|
|
|
Day One
Jan 13, 2012 1:01:15 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Jan 13, 2012 1:01:15 GMT -5
I find it strange that there seem to be a lot of people who say that they didn't request anything specific, and yet Ed claims he did, and did not get his first or second choices. I am assuming that someone is not telling the truth here. I'll be even more specific. I asked to be town first and a specific role second. I got both. So Pleo definitely seemed to give you the role you requested if they were available (at least, in my case he did...I can only speak for myself, however).
|
|
|
Day One
Jan 13, 2012 1:02:06 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Jan 13, 2012 1:02:06 GMT -5
I love starting the game off giving all the groups a big, steaming pile of WiFoM.
|
|
Colby11
Administrator
Creator of Hell's Kitchen Mafia
Posts: 1,193
[ Exalt | Smite ]
Karma:
|
Day One
Jan 13, 2012 2:25:42 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Jan 13, 2012 2:25:42 GMT -5
I didn't request a role, simply because I wanted the randomizer (or however Pleo picks the roles) to pick what I got and then run with it. I seem to be doing alot better with that lately than in games past.
This is the first game that I've played in with multiple factions, so it's going to be interesting to see how this turns out. Seems pretty busy, from glancing over one of the Conspiracy games in the past.
|
|
|
Day One
Jan 13, 2012 6:28:33 GMT -5
Post by guiri on Jan 13, 2012 6:28:33 GMT -5
Yay, game on! I got exactly what I asked for. I made a request to Pleonast to be Town (since I don't like being scummy roles) and lo and behold, I am Town, although I know that accounts for fuck-all right now. Take it as you will. As you say, it holds no more weight that saying "I'm Town" over and over, why mention it? I love starting the game off giving all the groups a big, steaming pile of WiFoM. By claiming that you're Town? I made zero request for a specific role as well, by the way. I prefer to just let whatever happens, happen. You must really enjoy being scum and getting lynched early. Was this before Ed's new play style? Regardless, it seems like a pretty feeble reason to bet on red to me, but something to keep in mind. What's the relevance of his play style? Fence sit much? Vote TexCatFrankly, I couldn't deal with the stress. I used to love being power roles but lately I've come to love vanilla town. I can shoot the shit, have fun, nights are stressless and if I die, well, there's probably still a chance town can win. Are you claiming to be vanilla town?
|
|
|
Day One
Jan 13, 2012 6:44:54 GMT -5
Post by Drain Bead on Jan 13, 2012 6:44:54 GMT -5
I love starting the game off giving all the groups a big, steaming pile of WiFoM. I don't like this post at all. I think if you are truly Town, you'd better serve yourself and your team by remaining quiet on this issue. As is, you're putting a big target on your back from the other groups, whether or not you're lying. And it also has undertones of protesting too much.
|
|
|
Day One
Jan 13, 2012 6:48:16 GMT -5
Post by scáthach on Jan 13, 2012 6:48:16 GMT -5
I find it strange that there seem to be a lot of people who say that they didn't request anything specific, and yet Ed claims he did, and did not get his first or second choices. I am assuming that someone is not telling the truth here. I'll be even more specific. I asked to be town first and a specific role second. I got both. So Pleo definitely seemed to give you the role you requested if they were available (at least, in my case he did...I can only speak for myself, however). I got my 3rd choice.
|
|
|
Day One
Jan 13, 2012 7:09:57 GMT -5
Post by Inner Stickler on Jan 13, 2012 7:09:57 GMT -5
I'd hoped I'd written my post well enough that it was clear I wasn't saying anything about my role this game. I find being randomly chosen to be a power role stressful enough,, I wouldn't purposefully seek it out. But I haven't claimed anything this game, so far.
|
|
|
Day One
Jan 13, 2012 8:56:35 GMT -5
Post by JustBeingGinger on Jan 13, 2012 8:56:35 GMT -5
I did not place any request in for my role. I would think that if Pleo was going to ask for what role you wanted, they would try to get you in the role that you requested.
|
|
|
Day One
Jan 13, 2012 9:33:59 GMT -5
Post by texcat on Jan 13, 2012 9:33:59 GMT -5
I think you have a faulty assumption. it could be that someone else requested those roles or those roles were not included in the game. I did forget that not all roles would be in the game, and now at least Idle has claimed he got the role he asked for.
|
|
|
Day One
Jan 13, 2012 9:51:40 GMT -5
Post by texcat on Jan 13, 2012 9:51:40 GMT -5
Was this before Ed's new play style? Regardless, it seems like a pretty feeble reason to bet on red to me, but something to keep in mind. What's the relevance of his play style? Fence sit much? Vote TexCatI am a Libra and a natural fence sitter, but I fail to see how I was fence sitting when I pointed out that voting for Ed because he asked for wolf last time is feeble. And even more feeble if you consider that last time was before Ed's shift in play style. It seems to me that if you radically change your play style, you might also change your preferred roles to match.
|
|
|
Day One
Jan 13, 2012 11:37:19 GMT -5
Post by Mahaloth on Jan 13, 2012 11:37:19 GMT -5
You must really enjoy being scum and getting lynched early. I have no idea why you would think this or say it. All I said is that I prefer to just let "whatever happens, happen", and I was obviously referring to role assignment. If I'm scum, OK. If I'm Town, OK. If something else, OK. I've had enough mix of everything that randomness is fine by me.
|
|
|
Day One
Jan 13, 2012 11:57:45 GMT -5
Post by deon on Jan 13, 2012 11:57:45 GMT -5
My apologies for getting in late, having sum pc problems this week, will catch up on the game by tomorrow and play along :-)
|
|
|
Day One
Jan 13, 2012 12:13:40 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Jan 13, 2012 12:13:40 GMT -5
I have been wondering about the players that did NOT get the specific role that they requested may be at a slight advantage. . I know that the role might not be in the game but if it is in the game and someone claims that particular role then the person who did not get it could think “hey, they are telling the truth” and either wipe them out or protect them. I am probably just doing a Flaky Jan thing again but I have been thinking about it and you can either shoot me down in flames or think about it yourself.
|
|
|
Day One
Jan 13, 2012 13:13:43 GMT -5
Post by guiri on Jan 13, 2012 13:13:43 GMT -5
I didn't request a role, simply because I wanted the randomizer (or however Pleo picks the roles) to pick what I got and then run with it. I seem to be doing alot better with that lately than in games past. Do you mean you've been randomly assigned more fun roles recently? Or something else? I am a Libra and a natural fence sitter, but I fail to see how I was fence sitting when I pointed out that voting for Ed because he asked for wolf last time is feeble. And even more feeble if you consider that last time was before Ed's shift in play style. It seems to me that if you radically change your play style, you might also change your preferred roles to match. If you consider it so feeble, why add that it's "something to keep in mind"? I have no idea why you would think this or say it. All I said is that I prefer to just let "whatever happens, happen", and I was obviously referring to role assignment. If I'm scum, OK. If I'm Town, OK. If something else, OK. I've had enough mix of everything that randomness is fine by me. I was referring to previous games where I'd voted you early on and you flipped scum. Apart from the most recent game we've played together, it seems you're always scum.
|
|
|
Day One
Jan 13, 2012 13:41:55 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Jan 13, 2012 13:41:55 GMT -5
As you say, it holds no more weight that saying "I'm Town" over and over, why mention it? Because it seemed relevant to the discussion? People were talking about if they requested a role and if they got it. Why wouldn't I weigh in with my own experience? Non-Town don't know whether I'm telling the truth or not (or other Town for that matter).
|
|
Colby11
Administrator
Creator of Hell's Kitchen Mafia
Posts: 1,193
[ Exalt | Smite ]
Karma:
|
Day One
Jan 13, 2012 14:26:51 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Jan 13, 2012 14:26:51 GMT -5
I didn't request a role, simply because I wanted the randomizer (or however Pleo picks the roles) to pick what I got and then run with it. I seem to be doing alot better with that lately than in games past. Do you mean you've been randomly assigned more fun roles recently? Or something else? I actually have been given some fun roles in the last few games. A 3rd party survivor in Wedlock, as well as Doctor in Handbasket on LPP Mafia.
|
|
|
Day One
Jan 13, 2012 16:36:48 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Jan 13, 2012 16:36:48 GMT -5
I didn't request a role, simply because I wanted the randomizer (or however Pleo picks the roles) to pick what I got and then run with it. I seem to be doing alot better with that lately than in games past. Do you mean you've been randomly assigned more fun roles recently? Or something else? If you consider it so feeble, why add that it's "something to keep in mind"? I have no idea why you would think this or say it. All I said is that I prefer to just let "whatever happens, happen", and I was obviously referring to role assignment. If I'm scum, OK. If I'm Town, OK. If something else, OK. I've had enough mix of everything that randomness is fine by me. I was referring to previous games where I'd voted you early on and you flipped scum. Apart from the most recent game we've played together, it seems you're always scum. OOh you sound a bit mad, Why???It makes me very uncomfortable!
|
|
|
Day One
Jan 13, 2012 16:46:40 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Jan 13, 2012 16:46:40 GMT -5
I was going to vote until I reread, it seems as if meta gaming is what it's about. No. NO/= or what the hell. I want to play a new game and meta is up the [ole.
I would vote for XXXX 'cept it would be meta gaming
|
|
|
Day One
Jan 13, 2012 16:47:47 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Jan 13, 2012 16:47:47 GMT -5
Flaky Jan is on a role
|
|
|
Day One
Jan 13, 2012 16:54:56 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Jan 13, 2012 16:54:56 GMT -5
Ok, seriously, there are no Vanilla roles so everyone has a power role. There are 4 factions (glad you are not in SA). We can vote for a no lynch on D1. I don't like a no lynch but maybe some of you do
|
|
|
Day One
Jan 13, 2012 17:34:03 GMT -5
Post by Høøpy Frøød on Jan 13, 2012 17:34:03 GMT -5
In the past games, did he actually give out the roles that were requested? I've been a spoiled observer in the previous 3. I don't remember which one it was where Pleo started accepting role requests, but he typically tried to follow the requests as much as he could. Didn't we have a game once where a non-player started the game as a Zombie? I seem to remember Hoopy being a Zombie even though he wasn't playing. Yes, that was the last conspiracy game, where the Undead had a free zombie at the start of Day 1, in the form of me, who was never a player and was never a part of any faction, but did count as one number toward the undead win condition. I was rather proud of my "Brains!" limerick. Are you claiming to be vanilla town? Really? In a game with no vanilla? And a discussion about it last night which included the very person your questioning here? You're actually asking this? Vote: Guiri For a question that just doesn't make sense. Non-Town don't know whether I'm telling the truth or not (or other Town for that matter). Vote: Idle Thoughts For another nonsensical statement. If you are a wolf or cabal, the other wolves and cabal would know whether you are telling the truth or not, because you wouldn't be. And if you are town, they know you aren't a member of their respective faction, so they would know you are more apt telling the truth than you aren't. OOh you sound a bit mad, Why???It makes me very uncomfortable! No, that's just Guiri being Guiri. His typical playstyle is cooly calculating, regardless of his alignment/faction.
|
|
|
Day One
Jan 13, 2012 17:36:39 GMT -5
Post by Høøpy Frøød on Jan 13, 2012 17:36:39 GMT -5
Flaky Jan is on a role Mmmmm...flaky rolls. *Goes off to get a croissant.*
|
|
|
Day One
Jan 13, 2012 17:43:39 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Jan 13, 2012 17:43:39 GMT -5
Ok, seriously, there are no Vanilla roles so everyone has a power role. There are 4 factions (glad you are not in SA). We can vote for a no lynch on D1. I don't like a no lynch but maybe some of you do As for a Day 1 no-lynch: I don't think that's ever a good idea. The lynch is the only * vehicle that the Town has to eliminate its opponents; there's rarely a good reason to pass on using it, and never on Day 1. *OK, it's not the only vehicle. There's the Vig (assuming he is present), and in this game we have other factions who benefit from eliminating each other, but you get the idea.
|
|
|
Day One
Jan 13, 2012 19:48:37 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Jan 13, 2012 19:48:37 GMT -5
For another nonsensical statement. If you are a wolf or cabal, the other wolves and cabal would know whether you are telling the truth or not, because you wouldn't be. And if you are town, they know you aren't a member of their respective faction, so they would know you are more apt telling the truth than you aren't. How is it nonsensical? Seems to me the definition of WiFoM is trying to figure out what others would do when they have a choice about something. Unless I'm wrong about that? So, let me sum up: -I say that I asked Pleo to make me town and give me a specific role. I then say that he did both of these things. -I make mention that the above is WiFoM for everyone else (since Pleo might not have given me the role that I asked for--it's only everyone elses' guess whether Pleo would do that or not). -You vote for me when I try to explain it better to someone else. That really doesn't make a lot of sense. You have very weak reasoning.
|
|
|
Day One
Jan 13, 2012 19:51:04 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Jan 13, 2012 19:51:04 GMT -5
NETA: Please tell me how I could have put it to where you wouldn't have found it nonsensical? Because unless I'm missing something, I don't know of a way I could have put it any more clear than I did.
|
|
|
Day One
Jan 13, 2012 20:15:06 GMT -5
Post by Mahaloth on Jan 13, 2012 20:15:06 GMT -5
I was referring to previous games where I'd voted you early on and you flipped scum. Apart from the most recent game we've played together, it seems you're always scum. Oh, OK. I did not get your point at all until then. Anyway, my point was that I do prefer random assignments over picking. I think the closest I've come to picking my role was when I picked Zeddicus for Halloween and they made me some kind of good magic investigator.
|
|
|
Day One
Jan 13, 2012 22:34:25 GMT -5
Post by special on Jan 13, 2012 22:34:25 GMT -5
BRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!
|
|