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Day One
Jan 16, 2012 18:55:42 GMT -5
Post by Sister Coyote on Jan 16, 2012 18:55:42 GMT -5
Wow, so, explosion on the page. Also:
Unvote: Peeker Vote: Boozy Squid
And I'll just be over there, dying of mortification about the fact that I apparently locked peeker into my fingers at some point...
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Day One
Jan 16, 2012 19:09:43 GMT -5
Post by guiri on Jan 16, 2012 19:09:43 GMT -5
Guiri, I'm not going to vote for you at the moment, but how do you figure knowledge of the starting number of Undead is unlikely to be a Town power? I was thinking of C IV where knowledge of the number of roles in each faction was part of the Cabal secret power. It was used to facilitate false claims. I'd expect a townie to want to maximize the information available and thus share the info early on in the game turning it into an open setup so all the mystery about roles and numbers would go to waste.
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Day One
Jan 16, 2012 19:59:32 GMT -5
Post by Nanook on Jan 16, 2012 19:59:32 GMT -5
I'm with guiri peeker. I have no idea what numbers you have to run, or what relevance they would have. Why the hell would any other Witches claim? It doesn't even make sense to counter claim him if he's lying. He now has to produce results, and he'll get caught if he's lying soon enough.
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Day One
Jan 16, 2012 20:11:01 GMT -5
Post by Mahaloth on Jan 16, 2012 20:11:01 GMT -5
I was not asking you to support me by any means, but is that a reason to vote me? Vote Mahaloth Uh, why? And why no explanation? Am I just the bandwagon target at this point? I'm not upset, though, folks. I don't know why this happens to me. I honestly just go out, say what I think, make my votes in a timely fashion(though a bit late toDay), and I seem to die early. It wasn't this way before. It's mostly "better him than me" at this point, though. Unvote Nanook I no longer have reason for this vote.
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Day One
Jan 16, 2012 20:11:20 GMT -5
Post by Mahaloth on Jan 16, 2012 20:11:20 GMT -5
Sorry, I meant to bleach that vote on me.
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Day One
Jan 16, 2012 20:12:07 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Jan 16, 2012 20:12:07 GMT -5
ok, the computer came back and it makes sense. let's see what the fuck happens.
you betcha peppers. i am a mason.
woot woot.
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Day One
Jan 16, 2012 20:20:55 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Jan 16, 2012 20:20:55 GMT -5
witches do your bidness. it's kind of fun. i've never been on idle's team, i don't think. but now i get to de facto work with him. fuck it is easier than working against him. other witches and masons hang low. we'll suss them out.
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Day One
Jan 16, 2012 20:22:21 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Jan 16, 2012 20:22:21 GMT -5
watcha gonna do now you non townie no goodniks?
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Day One
Jan 16, 2012 20:25:04 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Jan 16, 2012 20:25:04 GMT -5
i mean we can obviously lynch non town maha or non town boozy
mod question: can we do them both and get a quinella on Day 1?
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Day One
Jan 16, 2012 20:28:07 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Jan 16, 2012 20:28:07 GMT -5
i kind of want to see where the beetles skeedaddle, so to speak.
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Day One
Jan 16, 2012 20:35:48 GMT -5
Post by septimus on Jan 16, 2012 20:35:48 GMT -5
Unvote: Idle thoughts [/color]
Vote: deon [/color]
Vote: texcat [/color]
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Day One
Jan 16, 2012 20:43:19 GMT -5
Post by Sister Coyote on Jan 16, 2012 20:43:19 GMT -5
Guiri, I'm not going to vote for you at the moment, but how do you figure knowledge of the starting number of Undead is unlikely to be a Town power? I was thinking of C IV where knowledge of the number of roles in each faction was part of the Cabal secret power. It was used to facilitate false claims. I'd expect a townie to want to maximize the information available and thus share the info early on in the game turning it into an open setup so all the mystery about roles and numbers would go to waste. Ah, okay. That makes sense, now.
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Day One
Jan 16, 2012 21:01:24 GMT -5
Post by Pollux Oil on Jan 16, 2012 21:01:24 GMT -5
I think Pollux has merely voted me because I have votes. He explains his other votes, then just agrees with "hinky" and puts a vote on me. He's trying to bandwagon me. I'm also voting for you because of what scathach said in post #113, which I said in my vote. But I'm also voting for you because you seem kind of hyperdefensive in all your posts. Every time somebody votes for you, you're like "what, really? how could you vote for me?!" and seem incredulous people aren't seeing things the same way you are. This is kind of moot now that Idle's claimed, but I've said in other games that I don't like voting based on "slips" and what-not. I was mostly interested to see how Idle responded to what he'd said and was also looking to see if other people jumped on it as a "slip" and a reason to vote. Obviously, some people did. And then there's this whole steaming pile of crap from Janet: Idle, I've gotten angry in mafia games, but I think this was a little bit too personal, dude. Game aside, it was just a teensy bit over the top. Really harshed my mellow, bro. I'm not upset, though, folks. I don't know why this happens to me. I honestly just go out, say what I think, make my votes in a timely fashion(though a bit late toDay), and I seem to die early. It wasn't this way before. No claim? Just a pity party? Okay, not really helping your case though. ok, the computer came back and it makes sense. let's see what the fuck happens. you betcha peppers. i am a mason. woot woot. Speaking of claims, what the hell peeker? I was a little confused as to why Idle decided to claim, but I really don't understand why you're claiming. And the fact that you're claiming something that's a super safe claim (depending on the set-up)....I dunno, this really, really bothers me. Completely unnecessary right now, and actually makes me want to vote for you more. I guess it's easily provable or a Night or two, though. I've got my eye on you.
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Day One
Jan 16, 2012 21:18:21 GMT -5
Post by Mahaloth on Jan 16, 2012 21:18:21 GMT -5
But I'm also voting for you because you seem kind of hyperdefensive in all your posts. Every time somebody votes for you, you're like "what, really? how could you vote for me?!" and seem incredulous people aren't seeing things the same way you are. I'm not incredulous at all. I am defending myself. Why wouldn't I? Otherwise, I'm just "taking it." I am really trying to play the best game I can, which includes being involved, making votes, explaining my votes, and defending myself(especially when a bunch of votes are flying my way.) I don't want to just sit idly by and get killed. I'm committed to the game.
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Day One
Jan 16, 2012 21:20:31 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Jan 16, 2012 21:20:31 GMT -5
first. glad to see you coca cola. but you know this is also the kind of shit that makes the shit house rats climb the chains, right? heh, heh. welcome back. but you get no fucking pass for somewhat aligning with guiri. i mean the fucker is good but as not town he has to GO. you want to join that crowd then apparantly we will be in opposite corners of the ring.
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Day One
Jan 16, 2012 21:33:33 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Jan 16, 2012 21:33:33 GMT -5
I think Pollux has merely voted me because I have votes. He explains his other votes, then just agrees with "hinky" and puts a vote on me. He's trying to bandwagon me. I'm also voting for you because of what scathach said in post #113, which I said in my vote. But I'm also voting for you because you seem kind of hyperdefensive in all your posts. Every time somebody votes for you, you're like "what, really? how could you vote for me?!" and seem incredulous people aren't seeing things the same way you are. This is kind of moot now that Idle's claimed, but I've said in other games that I don't like voting based on "slips" and what-not. I was mostly interested to see how Idle responded to what he'd said and was also looking to see if other people jumped on it as a "slip" and a reason to vote. Obviously, some people did. Idle, I've gotten angry in mafia games, but I think this was a little bit too personal, dude. Game aside, it was just a teensy bit over the top. Really harshed my mellow, bro. No claim? Just a pity party? Okay, not really helping your case though. ok, the computer came back and it makes sense. let's see what the fuck happens. you betcha peppers. i am a mason. woot woot. Speaking of claims, what the hell peeker? I was a little confused as to why Idle decided to claim, but I really don't understand why you're claiming. And the fact that you're claiming something that's a super safe claim (depending on the set-up)....I dunno, this really, really bothers me. Completely unnecessary right now, and actually makes me want to vote for you more. I guess it's easily provable or a Night or two, though. I've got my eye on you. oh ffs. let's take idle and my claim at face value. that means there are at least five and potentially more confirmable towns. in a game that has 25. that means at least 20 percent is confirmed town. maybe a couple more or less (ain't gonna make it easy fuckers). now normally that just means that we get targeted. but if the other factions play like they have to play they are kind of pissing up a rope at this point. getting rid of us removes one threat but not all. and undead and wolves have to worry about cabal getting the witches. makes sense to me that we advance game state about two Days. woot woot
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Day One
Jan 16, 2012 21:37:43 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Jan 16, 2012 21:37:43 GMT -5
matter of fact. i would be inclined to force a mass claim. let's start nailing not witches, not masons. see what the fuck happens at Night and this fucker is over on Day 4.
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Day One
Jan 16, 2012 22:10:23 GMT -5
Post by Drain Bead on Jan 16, 2012 22:10:23 GMT -5
Well, this morning I planned on voting for Idle and peeker, among others. Oops.
I'll just get to the others, then.
Vote: Silver Jan for the whole Idle thing. There's no point in voting for him now; if he's not telling the truth we'll know soon enough. Also, on reread, I don't like how she made a whole post discussing no lynch and then at the very end said she's not a fan of it. If you're not a fan, why bring it up?
Vote: Septimus for post 76, in which he votes me (and Ed, maybe--I'm having trouble parsing that vote) for simply bringing up the Undead. Weak, and has the potential to stifle discussion.
Vote: Texcat for being the first to vote Ed because he voted for everyone who already had a vote. Too easy, and it reeks of an attempt to start a bandwagon. Note I am saying nothing about Ed and his alignment here. I don't necessarily have an opinion on that--I just think that this was an opportunistic vote.
Vote: Nanook for being the first to point out a potential PIS slip, in post 125.
Vote: Mahaloth for purely metagamey reasons. I just reread the whole thread and I can't remember a single post he made, and I know he's made quite a few posts. He plays like this when he's Scum.
That should be all for now.
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Day One
Jan 16, 2012 23:06:02 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Jan 16, 2012 23:06:02 GMT -5
crud. i could have sworn i did this but whattheheckever.
vote maha
vote boozy.
kthnxbye.
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Day One
Jan 16, 2012 23:59:19 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Jan 16, 2012 23:59:19 GMT -5
Ok, I am a lot calmer now even though I'm tired, I was up late last night.
Unvote Idle Thoughts
We will find out soon enough if he's lying. He is a rather good liar though ;D
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Day One
Jan 17, 2012 0:35:42 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Jan 17, 2012 0:35:42 GMT -5
It’s getting down to the wire now and as I’m not a very good player I am going to vote to lynch lurkers. If this was a standard game I don’t think I would do it but in this particular game every vote counts and it doesn’t help if players don’t come to the party.
Vote gnarlycharlie
He has only posted once in this thread
Vote Deon
He was going to come back and tell us his thoughts but we have heard nothing since then.
Vote Mahaloth
Because players that are a lot better at playing than I am seem to think there is something strange about his posts.
@ DrainBead I really went to a lot of trouble with my case against Idle and I was only sort of half wrong if he is being honest. I mentioned the no lynch because it was an option.
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Day One
Jan 17, 2012 1:50:41 GMT -5
Post by guiri on Jan 17, 2012 1:50:41 GMT -5
Vote: Nanook for being the first to point out a potential PIS slip, in post 125. It was Pollux in #83 who pointed it out, but Nanook was the first to vote.
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Jan 17, 2012 2:29:32 GMT -5
Post by Merestil Haye on Jan 17, 2012 2:29:32 GMT -5
I'm having scheduling problems right now. You can tell because I'm posting at before 7:30 am.
The two games I'm in (and remind me why exactly I signed up for two) both come to Fay's end within two hours of each other, and on a day when I do voluntary work. So I won't be home until 6 tonight. I'll try and read the thread over between now and lunchtime so as to have a vote ready for when I get home.
Sorry about this.
If I have it right from first read, Idle has claimed a Witch and peeker freemason. Are there any others I've missed?
Back to reread.
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Day One
Jan 17, 2012 3:02:56 GMT -5
Post by Merestil Haye on Jan 17, 2012 3:02:56 GMT -5
A small number of respond-as-I-go posts probably won't hurt anyone, and at least I'll get some actual thoughts down. If these have been covered, tough. I'm trying a different approach to my rereading this game. See if it works. On Special Ed and his request for anythign other than wolf. Yes, I asked for a role I couldn't have above wolf.
I really really really didn't want to be a wolf. I told Pleo that I'd rather be dead than be a wolf. You asked for a role you couldn't have above wolf? What do you mean?I read that as hyperbole designed to stress how much Ed wanted to be Wolf. His two tries at it were monumental foulups (as I think Ed would admit) and I wouldn't be surprised to learn he's telling the absolute truth. I've played in all four of these games. I was, in order, Wolf, Town (Witch), Cabal and Town (Coroner) and the least enjoyable of those four was the Wolf faction. (Of course things went badly for us from the start.) I find it strange that there seem to be a lot of people who say that they didn't request anything specific, and yet Ed claims he did, and did not get his first or second choices. I am assuming that someone is not telling the truth here. I trust Pleo when he said he would accomodate choices as best he could. So, if Ed is telling the truth, there are obviously some people who also requested Ed's first and second choices, and either we have not heard from them, or they are fibbing. Or, Ed is fibbing about his choices and/or role.
For myself, I did not request any specific role or faction, but instead, said there were a few roles that I did not want to have. Did you get any of the roles you didn't want? I can't remember you saying. There's a third alternative to the two you propose re Ed's claim to get his third role, and that is that Ed is telling the truth, but the roles he requested are not in the game.
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Day One
Jan 17, 2012 3:14:18 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Jan 17, 2012 3:14:18 GMT -5
Trying to reread, but I'm exhausted. Went and saw my mother for my birthday, and just got in... I need to stop posting late at night, it's not healthy.....
Will try to put down a vote, thoughts, etc.
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Day One
Jan 17, 2012 3:39:37 GMT -5
Post by Merestil Haye on Jan 17, 2012 3:39:37 GMT -5
Finished page 2, so a couple of thoughts before I go.
I note Texcat did realise the third option after it was pointed out to her.
Idle's assertion that he is Town is what Idle does in the early game. It's not always well advised, but he does it - even when he's not Town.
Special Ed needs a smiting. Long unbroken character strings that force people into horizontal scrolling are not nice.
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Day One
Jan 17, 2012 3:58:59 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Jan 17, 2012 3:58:59 GMT -5
Is it just me, or is septimus just voting and not explaining? Also, discussing no lynch (which seems like a waste of time for me)
Vote: vote septimus
Idle Thoughts seems to skim a bit. Remember to read before posting- it helps a bunch. He thens attacks Silver Jan's playstyle, and claims Witch. The only thing saving me from voting for him is the Witch claim (wouldn't he be something like a warlock? cause witches are girls...). I don't like it when people are attacked based on their personality/play style.
That being said, I do think that Silver Jan does post a bit off the deep end (but then again, so does Peeker).. and speaking of Peeker, WTF with your mason claim in a game that technically has no masons? (they're called witches)
Vote: Vote Boozahol Squid for basically throwing a vote on Peeker because he is usually disruptive.
Vote: Vote CatinaSuit for voting for everyone... Do you really have to do that?
Mahaloth... I have to agree with the consensus, the way you did ask Ed regarding his role did sound a bit funny Vote: Vote Mahaloth
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Day One
Jan 17, 2012 4:41:20 GMT -5
Post by septimus on Jan 17, 2012 4:41:20 GMT -5
Is it just me, or is septimus just voting and not explaining? Also, discussing no lynch (which seems like a waste of time for me) ... and speaking of Peeker, WTF with your mason claim in a game that technically has no masons? (they're called witches) Assuming No Lynch is bad for Town, we may need to take advantage of multiple voting just to get a Lynch. (And, though voting for him, I'm not overconfident Mahaloth is best choice: as he says he often draws suspicion even when Town.) Since deon has posted nothing but an apology for not posting, my vote on him should have been self-explanatory. (That's assuming No Lynch is bad for us. Yes, I am Town.) Since some players may act so as to increase the likelihood of No Lynch, it seems good to understand who would benefit. Not knowing that Freemasons is a possible role seems odd. Since scum factions may tend to be more involved in the game, so more aware of the rules, it seems possible this is a pretense -- wanting us to think you're an uninvolved Townie. Vote: colby11 [/color]
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Day One
Jan 17, 2012 5:37:15 GMT -5
Post by CatInASuit on Jan 17, 2012 5:37:15 GMT -5
Ok, Looking through some more. scathach's reasons for voting Suburban Plankton and Mahaloth in #113 are well reasoned and make a lot of sense. Unvote: scathach catina - vote for everyone. good one catina. way to avoid accountability and still pursue a lynch of someone you would know that is not on your team. the shittiest vote thus far by a nose. Actually, I'm trying something new. By end of Day, I'll probably only have a couple of votes left on scummy people and the lurkers. Pollux Oil's explanations in #138 make good sense, and yes I will agree that carpet bombing votes is going to ruffle some feathers. However my reason for doing it this way, is that over the last couple of games I have been good at identifying town aligned players and so have decided to base the entire strategy off it. The main reason for trying it is also because the voting system allows it. Unvote: Pollux Oil So that all leads me to my claim. I'm a Witch.Town may actually lose this time. I mean, a Witch is forced to claim on Day One. You know, in Conspiracy 2 when someone clamed witch on Day 1, they weren't. In all the Conspiracy games that I remember, there's always been two Undead to begin with. This line is bullsh!t. They has only ever been one game with two undead and given that Ed has kindly posted the full list of setups, how can you say this. But it doesn't matter really. As hoopy frood said earlier Witches are unlynchable. Nice prompt HF (#143). If you are a witch, you will get some protection. If you're not, we will find out in due course. Unvote: Idle Thoughts
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Day One
Jan 17, 2012 6:48:41 GMT -5
Post by Drain Bead on Jan 17, 2012 6:48:41 GMT -5
Vote: Nanook for being the first to point out a potential PIS slip, in post 125. It was Pollux in #83 who pointed it out, but Nanook was the first to vote. Thanks for pointing that out, I missed it. Vote: Pollux Unvote: Nanook
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