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Post by Rich Beckman on Oct 7, 2012 16:43:31 GMT -5
Also the JustBeingGinger claim is bugging me. I'm busy with RL too, but I would not have assumed Mod error in my PM and edited it. I would have asked the Mod. It just seems like she's covering up. Sooooooo, Vote: JustBeingGinger [/color][/quote] To set the record straight, I never said that the mod made a mistake. I stated that I did not understand what hostile and non-hostile really mean't. In order for me not to be a threat to scum, I thought it sounded better to put non-hostile.[/quote] Alright. I've changed my mind again. "I thought it sounded better to put non-hostile" is just too much for me. You went over 45 real life hours without a post leading up to the posting of your full, unedited PM. Maybe you spent that time fixing it up. Yes, I know, real life could easily prevent you from posting for two days. It is just a data point. And, most importantly, it occurred to me while I was just now rebooting my computer that if you are not lynchable, then why all the concern over Pleo posting your name? Vote: JustBeingGinger
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Post by JustBeingGinger on Oct 7, 2012 17:05:48 GMT -5
To set the record straight, I never said that the mod made a mistake. I stated that I did not understand what hostile and non-hostile really mean't. In order for me not to be a threat to scum, I thought it sounded better to put non-hostile. Alright. I've changed my mind again. "I thought it sounded better to put non-hostile" is just too much for me. You went over 45 real life hours without a post leading up to the posting of your full, unedited PM. Maybe you spent that time fixing it up. Yes, I know, real life could easily prevent you from posting for two days. It is just a data point. And, most importantly, it occurred to me while I was just now rebooting my computer that if you are not lynchable, then why all the concern over Pleo posting your name? Vote: JustBeingGinger [/color][/quote] I was not worried about a lynch so much as being NK'd that night by scum. I didn't post for 48 hours because I have been debating which way I was going to go, be it fully claim or just let the lynch not happen and play dumb. Plus I was out of the house pretty much all day yesterday and needed a break from the game. I have said that I am still not sure if what I did by claiming is good for town. My concern is NOT that I cannot be lynched or really even the #1 power of saving someone from a lynch and placing them in jail. The power that I think is most important to town is the information piece that is revealed once a person is either lynched or NK'd. With my death that is reduced. Reduced to what, I don't know but I really don't want to take the chance. The part that I spent 48 hours making this up and writing the PM, I thank you for the compliment that I could make this up, but I assure you I cannot take that credit...
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Post by JustBeingGinger on Oct 7, 2012 17:09:05 GMT -5
Mod, can you please delete the last post, I got an error message when I posted the first one, Thanks!
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Post by LightFoot on Oct 7, 2012 17:09:42 GMT -5
JBG you have been asked my more than just me - I don't recall the answer
namely AS TOWN why would you risk altering your PM at all?
For me, posting my PM is avoided until under extreme pressure- even when you are cleaner than angel’s underwear there is angst that someone will find a nit to pick that the mod typed. (it’s happened) I’ve never altered a PM * but on my planet I would have triple checked every f-ing detail before posting an altered one. Yours was posted at a time where there was no pressure ( it was Night) and only a few promises of a vote the next Day. Claiming Town at Night gives Scum a fancy target to aim at- why do that?? Given that we are told there are few Town players
*except for small redacted bits that were clearly marked
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Post by Pollux Oil on Oct 7, 2012 17:27:11 GMT -5
Day 3 Updated Vote Count
JustBeingGinger (12 votes) - Penalty Vote, Parzival, gnarlycharlie, Meeko, dizzymrslizzy, silverjan, askthepizzaguy, storyteller0910, BillMc, Red Skeezix, peekercpa, Rich Beckman Colby11 (6 votes) - CometotheDarkSideWeHaveCookies, BillMc, patricia, sinjin, Lightfoot, crys Inner Stickler (3 votes) - Colby11, dizzymrslizzy, Suburban Plankton Suburban Plankton (2 votes) - askthepizzaguy, Sister Coyote crys (2 votes) - Meeko, Red Skeezix KidVermicious - (1 vote) CometotheDarkSideWeHaveCookies CometotheDarkSideWeHaveCookies (1 vote) - peekercpa peekercpa (1 vote) - KidVermicious Red Skeezix (1 vote) - crys
With these votes, JustbeingGinger will be lynched.
Day ends in ~42.5 hours.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Oct 7, 2012 17:27:44 GMT -5
I believe I have (and am still happy with) a vote on you, dear Burby. I am in the middle of a baking whirlwind and don't have time at the moment to peruse the thread again to look for a second person I think I have a case on. You are of course correct; my mistake. Between your baking marathon and Rich drowning in a sea of wine, I'm starting to get a bit jealous...
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Post by JustBeingGinger on Oct 7, 2012 17:42:17 GMT -5
JBG you have been asked my more than just me - I don't recall the answer namely AS TOWN why would you risk altering your PM at all? For me, posting my PM is avoided until under extreme pressure- even when you are cleaner than angel’s underwear there is angst that someone will find a nit to pick that the mod typed. (it’s happened) I’ve never altered a PM * but on my planet I would have triple checked every f-ing detail before posting an altered one. Yours was posted at a time where there was no pressure ( it was Night) and only a few promises of a vote the next Day. Claiming Town at Night gives Scum a fancy target to aim at- why do that?? Given that we are told there are few Town players *except for small redacted bits that were clearly marked I was worried about being NK'd that night when I claimed. All that was put out was my title. Scum know I am not scum, therefore I am a threat non the less. I took out the powers that could be perceived as "townie". I left the power that I could save someone from a lynch and place them in prison, in my opinion this was a power that was not really threatening. I changed the Hostile to Non-Hostile because, I did not completely understand the difference between them and Non-hostile seemed less threatening to scum. I have explained all this prior to this post, just so you know. Place your vote on me and find out if I am telling the truth, I will survive the lynch. I have placed a target for being NK'd by scum or a vig and at that time you might or might not find out I am town, depending on what information is revealed about my alignment and what I mean by that is that with my death the information that is revealed at a death is going to be limited, not sure how limited but limited non the less. I edited my PM, not to be deceitful but it was as game strategy to survive the Night. I made the mistake of not knowing what hostile and non hostile really meant that is my bad game play. We all play differently and my actions were in the best interest of the town, well in my head... I have a question to ask everyone because the question has been asked " Why did I claim?" So if I had never said anything about my title "Judge, Jury and Executioner", would no one have ever questioned me about it? I remember there was a couple of posts that even called mention to it...
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Post by LightFoot on Oct 7, 2012 18:11:48 GMT -5
JBG you have been asked my more than just me - I don't recall the answer namely AS TOWN why would you risk altering your PM at all? For me, posting my PM is avoided until under extreme pressure- even when you are cleaner than angel’s underwear there is angst that someone will find a nit to pick that the mod typed. (it’s happened) I’ve never altered a PM * but on my planet I would have triple checked every f-ing detail before posting an altered one. Yours was posted at a time where there was no pressure ( it was Night) and only a few promises of a vote the next Day. Claiming Town at Night gives Scum a fancy target to aim at- why do that?? Given that we are told there are few Town players *except for small redacted bits that were clearly marked I was worried about being NK'd that night when I claimed. All that was put out was my title. Scum know I am not scum, therefore I am a threat non the less. I took out the powers that could be perceived as "townie". I left the power that I could save someone from a lynch and place them in prison, in my opinion this was a power that was not really threatening. I changed the Hostile to Non-Hostile because, I did not completely understand the difference between them and Non-hostile seemed less threatening to scum. I have explained all this prior to this post, just so you know. Place your vote on me and find out if I am telling the truth, I will survive the lynch. I have placed a target for being NK'd by scum or a vig and at that time you might or might not find out I am town, depending on what information is revealed about my alignment and what I mean by that is that with my death the information that is revealed at a death is going to be limited, not sure how limited but limited non the less. I edited my PM, not to be deceitful but it was as game strategy to survive the Night. I made the mistake of not knowing what hostile and non hostile really meant that is my bad game play. We all play differently and my actions were in the best interest of the town, well in my head... I have a question to ask everyone because the question has been asked " Why did I claim?" So if I had never said anything about my title "Judge, Jury and Executioner", would no one have ever questioned me about it? I remember there was a couple of posts that even called mention to it... it was Night- and Scum could very well have thought you would take care of some of the carnage for them ( my first thought was that you were a vig) You could have said yeah- that's my name tell you more in the daylight. but the biggy is still if Town WHY modify your mod written alignment - without asking the mod or atleast checking the rules? sorry if you feel this is beating a hanging horse but it is a point of contention for me.
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Post by Parzival on Oct 7, 2012 18:21:47 GMT -5
Sorry, JustBeingGinger, but I'm not buying it. There's the initial edit of the designation, which I think is just fixing the error. Then you come in today with a secondary "full" claim that happens to strengthen your value to Town, and additional information that you are completely unlynchable. You were already claiming you couldn't be lynched Today before ( I saw nothing that said you couldn't pardon yourself). It's too much shifting for me. I don't believe any of it.
colby11, have you explained why you decided to pop up with a soft claim (with an aggressive tone) when there appeared to be no chance of you being lynched? [And it better not be "I bid 25 on the mercenary" or I'm going to kick something.]
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Post by LightFoot on Oct 7, 2012 18:31:19 GMT -5
Parzival that last bit made me laugh- and I'll help you kick whatever it is
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Post by patricia on Oct 7, 2012 18:34:53 GMT -5
colby11, have you explained why you decided to pop up with a soft claim (with an aggressive tone) when there appeared to be no chance of you being lynched? [And it better not be "I bid 25 on the mercenary" or I'm going to kick something.] lol I bid 30 on the mercenary didn't you know!!
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Post by Red Skeezix on Oct 7, 2012 20:00:10 GMT -5
I don't like redskeezixs vote on me. He voted me for previous reasons which one of them was being a lazy voter. He didn't give much explanation for his other vote and this came across as being very lazy also. vote: RedSkeezixFirst of all you're mischaracterizing my vote intentionally. I never voted you for being a lazy voter. I don't even know what that is. I voted you because you hedge voted the two vote leaders on day one. It's not lazy, it speaks of someone who is afraid to be conterversial, afraid to draw attention. Secondly, I believe you are a hostile third party, not what you claim to be. Thirdly, really an OMGUS vote? C'mon why arent you lynched yet?
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Post by crys on Oct 7, 2012 20:49:54 GMT -5
I don't like redskeezixs vote on me. He voted me for previous reasons which one of them was being a lazy voter. He didn't give much explanation for his other vote and this came across as being very lazy also. vote: RedSkeezixFirst of all you're mischaracterizing my vote intentionally. I never voted you for being a lazy voter. I don't even know what that is. I voted you because you hedge voted the two vote leaders on day one. It's not lazy, it speaks of someone who is afraid to be conterversial, afraid to draw attention. Secondly, I believe you are a hostile third party, not what you claim to be. Thirdly, really an OMGUS vote? C'mon why arent you lynched yet? Ummm the words lazy votes I belive came from your post when you initially voted for me. I decided that was pretty lazy of you. Trust me if it was a pure OMGUS vote I would specify it as such. Sent from my SCH-I405 using proboards
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Post by crys on Oct 7, 2012 20:51:19 GMT -5
Sorry, JustBeingGinger, but I'm not buying it. There's the initial edit of the designation, which I think is just fixing the error. Then you come in today with a secondary "full" claim that happens to strengthen your value to Town, and additional information that you are completely unlynchable. You were already claiming you couldn't be lynched Today before ( I saw nothing that said you couldn't pardon yourself). It's too much shifting for me. I don't believe any of it. colby11, have you explained why you decided to pop up with a soft claim (with an aggressive tone) when there appeared to be no chance of you being lynched? [And it better not be "I bid 25 on the mercenary" or I'm going to kick something.] To save his backside of course Sent from my SCH-I405 using proboards
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Post by Red Skeezix on Oct 7, 2012 22:08:59 GMT -5
First of all you're mischaracterizing my vote intentionally. I never voted you for being a lazy voter. I don't even know what that is. I voted you because you hedge voted the two vote leaders on day one. It's not lazy, it speaks of someone who is afraid to be conterversial, afraid to draw attention. Secondly, I believe you are a hostile third party, not what you claim to be. Thirdly, really an OMGUS vote? C'mon why arent you lynched yet? Ummm the words lazy votes I belive came from your post when you initially voted for me. I decided that was pretty lazy of you. Trust me if it was a pure OMGUS vote I would specify it as such. Sent from my SCH-I405 using proboards Voting for both vote leaders, based on the fact that you think info is missing from one of them or possibly both? Why are you hedging? If you think info is missing, what isn't there that you think should be there? vote Crys[/quote] It's snipped, but the link is there and no relevant pieces are removed. Where exactly does it say i'm voting you for being lazy? Also: Stop making shit up.
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Post by Red Skeezix on Oct 7, 2012 22:11:22 GMT -5
Ummm the words lazy votes I belive came from your post when you initially voted for me. I decided that was pretty lazy of you. Trust me if it was a pure OMGUS vote I would specify it as such. Sent from my SCH-I405 using proboards Voting for both vote leaders, based on the fact that you think info is missing from one of them or possibly both? Why are you hedging? If you think info is missing, what isn't there that you think should be there? vote CrysIt's snipped, but the link is there and no relevant pieces are removed. Where exactly does it say i'm voting you for being lazy? Also: Stop making shit up. NETA: Perhaps I should hit preview before posting since the tags are all wonky.
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Post by Rich Beckman on Oct 7, 2012 22:21:07 GMT -5
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Post by Colby11 on Oct 7, 2012 23:38:46 GMT -5
colby11, have you explained why you decided to pop up with a soft claim (with an aggressive tone) when there appeared to be no chance of you being lynched? [And it better not be "I bid 25 on the mercenary" or I'm going to kick something.] Snipped Because I basically placed myself in a no win situation. Frustration about getting votes, as well as not having a vote count made, pressured me to claim. As to the mercenary, I did not place a bid because I had votes from yesterDay and I was afraid to be the next person to die.
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Post by Colby11 on Oct 7, 2012 23:43:34 GMT -5
Finally caught up! Questions to Pizza and/or Colby: Can you two communicate on another board? If not, how does Colby know who Pizza is protecting? Or are you both just protecting/recruiting random people and don't know what each other is doing at all? Sorry for not answering your question, didn't feel like it was necessary Me and Pizza cannot communicate on a separate board. I don't know who Pizza has chosen, pizza won't know who I am choosing unless I tell everyone.
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Post by Colby11 on Oct 7, 2012 23:46:31 GMT -5
Whether you believe my claim or not, I am effectively dead anyways. Either scum will kill me, or you guys will either today or tomorrow...
And then I will laugh when I die, because I was telling the truth
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Post by Silver Jan on Oct 8, 2012 0:37:58 GMT -5
colby11, have you explained why you decided to pop up with a soft claim (with an aggressive tone) when there appeared to be no chance of you being lynched? [And it better not be "I bid 25 on the mercenary" or I'm going to kick something.] Snipped Because I basically placed myself in a no win situation. Frustration about getting votes, as well as not having a vote count made, pressured me to claim. As to the mercenary, I did not place a bid because I had votes from yesterDay and I was afraid to be the next person to die. Frustrated about not having a vote count made you soft claim, why didn't you count them? Did you also think that the votes from yesterDay would carry over or that the same people would vote for you again?
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Post by Colby11 on Oct 8, 2012 0:49:20 GMT -5
Snipped Because I basically placed myself in a no win situation. Frustration about getting votes, as well as not having a vote count made, pressured me to claim. As to the mercenary, I did not place a bid because I had votes from yesterDay and I was afraid to be the next person to die. Frustrated about not having a vote count made you soft claim, why didn't you count them? Did you also think that the votes from yesterDay would carry over or that the same people would vote for you again? Should of, but you combine that with some stress that I was having in real life, really I was at the point where I didn't care, and by the time I decided to care, the damage was already done... I hope town has a watcher of some sort
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Post by Askthepizzaguy on Oct 8, 2012 1:05:27 GMT -5
I think this is a great time to test multiple claims/mechanics. Lets not lynch Ginger, and instead leave her to Pizza and his bloodthirsty buddy. If she's Town and dies, that's a datapoint against Pizza. If she's Town and doesn't die, thats a data point in favor of what Pizza is telling us, and if she's 3rd party or scum and dies, then yay us. I have no power to stop a vig if I am roleblocked. If you want her dead, you lynch her. She's already lied to you.
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Post by Askthepizzaguy on Oct 8, 2012 1:07:38 GMT -5
WHAT THE HECK IS THIS GROUP DOING TRYING TO LYNCH COLBY
I am about ready to stop talking. What's the point.
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Post by Silver Jan on Oct 8, 2012 1:41:15 GMT -5
WHAT THE HECK IS THIS GROUP DOING TRYING TO LYNCH COLBY I am about ready to stop talking. What's the point. I don't want to lynch him, I'm just asking questions so I know where he's coming from. I hope he will be protected.
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Post by scáthach on Oct 8, 2012 5:40:39 GMT -5
Sorry you guys, that one week I planned to be away suddenly turned into two, and the promised internet access not so hot. Getting caught up today.
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Post by scáthach on Oct 8, 2012 5:42:34 GMT -5
Sorry you guys, that one week I planned to be away suddenly turned into two, and the promised internet access not so hot. Getting caught up today. The first room they checked was scathach's and saw a familiar sight. Scathach's body was frozen and broken into several pieces, leaving it very clear that she had been the target of foul play last night. A quick search of the room revealed that scathach had been up to something strange...playing with corpses at night? How foul. Alas, it didn't seem like what was done was really harmful...just odd. scathach, aka Sander Cohen (Nonhostile Third-Party Back-Up), a PEACEKEEPER, will no longer be turning corpses into art.Well that didn't take long
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 8, 2012 7:54:46 GMT -5
Frustration about getting votes, as well as not having a vote count made, pressured me to claim. <snipped> you can't count?
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Post by JustBeingGinger on Oct 8, 2012 9:53:45 GMT -5
WHAT THE HECK IS THIS GROUP DOING TRYING TO LYNCH COLBY I am about ready to stop talking. What's the point. I understand why you are so against a lunch of Colby, but why are you SO sure of his claim? I mean you have never doubted and were very sure about him from the get go. Then again you are sure about me and you are wrong.
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Post by JustBeingGinger on Oct 8, 2012 9:54:49 GMT -5
NETA: Lynch not lunch...
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