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Post by LightFoot on Oct 5, 2012 11:45:49 GMT -5
So far…. corrections- please
RedS tells us ‘e knows there were 7 Town N1 / 5 Scum N2
ATPG tells us he has some knowledge of a Town Vig- and some other tricks up his sleeve
crys claimed – at Night- to be a Cabalist Werewolf Vampire (aka Jim) 3P-NH-the cause of the virus
JBG claimed- at Night- to be Judge,Jury,Executioner ( as outed by Pleo ) Town-NH (?)
We still have an unidentified curse sender ( with a foot fetish )
and a role blocker ( according to Pizza )
add to that our current Dead mahaloth, aka Arthur Dent (Third-Party Nonhostile One-Shot Killer), lynched Day One Pleonast, aka The Anti-Lurker (Town Investigator), lynched Day Two guiri, aka Tim the Enchanter (Town Doctor), killed Day Two scathach, aka Sander Cohen (Nonhostile Third-Party Back-Up), a PEACEKEEPER, will no longer be turning corpses into art. wombat99, aka Professor X (Town Weak Doc/Bodyguard), a PEACEKEEPER, has been mentally and physically destroyed
interesting cast of characters- did I miss anything?
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Post by Sister Coyote on Oct 5, 2012 12:01:49 GMT -5
It seems most likely that Pizza's block was due to either:
1) protection on Ginger, or 2) action against Pizza
So, assuming Pizza is truthful, it is not 100% certain we have a role blocker, but it is 100% certain Night actions can be prevented.
Oh, and you forgot peeks.
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Post by LightFoot on Oct 5, 2012 12:05:07 GMT -5
It seems most likely that Pizza's block was due to either: 1) protection on Ginger, or 2) action against Pizza So, assuming Pizza is truthful, it is not 100% certain we have a role blocker, but it is 100% certain Night actions can be prevented. Oh, and you forgot peeks. I stand corrected and I didn't really " forget" peeker- I just don't know how to peg him- if I put him in the wrong box he might rebel [grin]
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Post by Rich Beckman on Oct 5, 2012 12:08:26 GMT -5
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Post by Parzival on Oct 5, 2012 12:24:03 GMT -5
Uh-oh. Is that a creepy doll or is it Creepy Doll? silverjan, do you know anything more about it?
Either way, I wouldn't kick it.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Oct 5, 2012 12:27:07 GMT -5
I'm running out the door to be a Bathroom Remodel Weekend Warrior, so I won't be my usual loquacious self until at least supper time (Pacific time) today and tommorrow.
There is precedence for the Creepy Doll on these boards, including two users on the roster with 'Creepy Doll' as their user name. One was used to post during a game some time ago, but I don't remember much more than that.
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Post by Colby11 on Oct 5, 2012 12:30:32 GMT -5
I may still vote Ginger but I haven't quite settled on whether or not I believe she's Hostile Third Party or just someone confused by the Hostile/non-Hostile designation. vote: ColbyI don't like his votes and there's something heavily pinging me about this part of his first post of the day: Based on how the night kills went, I assume someone did go after KidV, and he blocked that kill with his protection. Also, it seems someone protected Peeker, and was able to bring him back. There is a role in Conspiracy that can do this (Witchdoctor, I think) I made an assumption... Trying to piece things together...
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Post by Colby11 on Oct 5, 2012 12:32:08 GMT -5
All I can say is this- lynch me, and Town will lose.
Period
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Post by Parzival on Oct 5, 2012 12:37:34 GMT -5
. There is precedence for the Creepy Doll on these boards, including two users on the roster with 'Creepy Doll' as their user name. One was used to post during a game some time ago, but I don't remember much more than that. I only know of the one from the original Gastard game, which was part of a number of things the gastards used that had strange effects. She ended up following people around, and eventually her ghost haunted Santo Rugger when he ... kicked her. I don't recall which role had it exactly. I think it might have been someone who had a sort of bag of tricks and could leave them around for town. Or maybe she came from the gastards themselves.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Oct 5, 2012 12:37:39 GMT -5
All I can say is this- lynch me, and Town will lose. Period
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Post by Sister Coyote on Oct 5, 2012 12:39:51 GMT -5
I only know of the one from the original Gastard game, which was part of a number of things the gastards used that had strange effects. She ended up following people around, and eventually her ghost haunted Santo Rugger when he ... kicked her. Additional rules for surviving a horror movie: - Don't steal from the dead. Even if the dead don't care, it won't end well for you.
- Don't kick or burn or otherwise mangle the baby doll unless you're absolutely certain you can reduce it to ash.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Oct 5, 2012 12:57:16 GMT -5
Uh-oh. Is that a creepy doll or is it Creepy Doll? What's the difference?
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Post by KidVermicious on Oct 5, 2012 12:57:52 GMT -5
. There is precedence for the Creepy Doll on these boards, including two users on the roster with 'Creepy Doll' as their user name. One was used to post during a game some time ago, but I don't remember much more than that. I only know of the one from the original Gastard game, which was part of a number of things the gastards used that had strange effects. She ended up following people around, and eventually her ghost haunted Santo Rugger when he ... kicked her. I don't recall which role had it exactly. I think it might have been someone who had a sort of bag of tricks and could leave them around for town. Or maybe she came from the gastards themselves. Creepy Doll was mrblocky screwing around during Gastard Arena. There was no particular mechanic involved, and I don't think it ever actually did anything. I wish I could remember the password for that account, it'd be fun to bring Creepy Doll back. ***************************************** Colby, I'm going to need some more details please. To be honest, I'm more likely to vote you now than I was before, because I don't believe you. Why will Town lose if we lynch you?
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Oct 5, 2012 12:59:08 GMT -5
Gah!
You'd think that by now I'd know to READ TO THE END before asking questions....
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Oct 5, 2012 13:01:29 GMT -5
vote Inner Stickler
Day 1
He spent most of the day telling us why we shouldn't lynch Pleonast. He didn't offer up an alternative target; he simply argued that Pleo was a mislynch. When he finally did place a vote, an hour before EoD, he placed it on Colby, citing his vote on patricia for posting a math problem. While I agree that "because she posted a math problem" is a poor excuse for a vote, it was also a Day 1 vote, so I think Inner's vote was equally poor. Of course, it was also a Day vote, so...
Day 2
Four days into Day 2, all Inner really had to say was that we still shouldn't lynch Pleonast, nor should we lynch KidV or Pizza, who were atop the vote ladder at the time (as was Meeko, but apparently that was OK at the time). So he votes Colby again, still because of his Day 1 vote on patricia. A while later he votes Meeko, in an effort to build a counter bandwagon to save Pleo and Pizza. He doesn't make any case on Meeko, or give any reason why anyone else should follow his lead, other than apparently "Meeko isn't Pleo or Pizza".
Fast forward to a couple hours before EoD again. guiri has just told us that he won the Merc, but is therefore in danger of being lynched. This is enough for Inner to unvote Meeko and vote guiri. Again, no mention of why guiri should be lynched; no case on why Inner thinks guiri is Scum/Hostile Third Party. In the same post he unvotes Colby and votes for Ginger. No comment at all. In fact, he hadn't mentioned Ginger prior to that post; he didn't refer to Ginger in that post other than to place his vote for her, and he hasn't mentioned Ginger since that post.
He does go on after this to make somewhat of a case against guiri. Specifically, he mmentions "Guiri has upset the voting apple cart at the last moment and now he's claiming doc, a role generally considered to be useful that he has gambled on an 8 vote bid for the merc. Poor play.". Then, in his next post, one minute later, he unvotes guiri and re-votes Colby. Again, with no commentary whatsoever.
In summary, a lot of telling us what we shouldn't do, interspersed with several votes based on the weakest of cases, or more frequently absolutely no case at all. He simply doesn't seem particularly interested in who does get lynched, only in who doesn't. That's certainly not a pro-Town point of view.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Oct 5, 2012 13:05:58 GMT -5
All I can say is this- lynch me, and Town will lose. Period Oh, what the hell...I have another vote available. vote Colby11OK, the ball's back in your court. Period
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Post by Colby11 on Oct 5, 2012 13:07:07 GMT -5
All I can say is this- lynch me, and Town will lose. Period Oh, what the hell...I have another vote available. vote Colby11OK, the ball's back in your court. Period Lol that is funny. Okay, I will put it like this.... Pleonast may not have been lying when he posted his role PM on Night 0, thanks to me.
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Post by Askthepizzaguy on Oct 5, 2012 13:13:57 GMT -5
I was roleblocked, no further objections to Ginger's lynch. Can't prove squat if I'm roleblocked. Vote JustbeingGinger Vote dizzymrslizzy for calling me arrogant. I don't care what alignment you are at this point, just die. LOL, a little OMGUS there Pizza. Maybe you don't see how you are coming across, or you don't care, but that's my take, you were over the top yesterDay with your "If you push me I'm going to the grave with my secrets" That's arrogant to me. I don't know what else to call it. Here have a little wine, and calm the eff down....it's a game. At no point was I not calm, and I suggest you look up what arrogant means, because it doesn't apply there. If you're going to call me arrogant, then expect that I won't mind when you depart from the game.
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Post by Askthepizzaguy on Oct 5, 2012 13:18:29 GMT -5
Things do look bad for Ginger. Her posting an edited PM was forced and then she denied editing it. An aside. I am a little confused why she was in such a rush to post it. She arrived to play the game at 1:13 pm Monday She posts her PM on Wednesday at 9:40 am when Night Two still had 28 hours to go. [/aside] I am curious about PizzaGuy's comment that he was role blocked when he attempted to do whatever it was he was trying to do to Ginger (sounds like he was investigating, but since he has refrained from such language...) I was roleblocked, no further objections to Ginger's lynch. Can't prove squat if I'm roleblocked. <snip> Unless her PM is a compete fabrication, it does not sound like she could role block herself. Are there any innocent explanations for the role block? The only one that comes to my mind is if PizzaGuy is lying about it. In the meantime Vote: JustBeingGinger [/color] [/quote] I feel obligated to point out that my being roleblocked proves nothing about Ginger's alignment. Her behavior provides real evidence. Evidence that can be misinterpreted, but I don't think it is, here. My being roleblocked because I stated I was a role that can aid the vigilante makes complete sense regardless of Ginger's alignment. I'm a stickler for actual evidence, and I am also a stickler for pointing out logical non-starters. I'd never make the suggestion that my being roleblocked indicated one way or the other, reliably, regarding someone's alignment, except in very specific circumstances wherein I were about to expose someone's scummery and for some reason they couldn't just kill me. Even then it would create a false positive whenever it's not true. It just doesn't indicate well.
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Post by Askthepizzaguy on Oct 5, 2012 13:23:11 GMT -5
Colby, being murdered is the same as being lynched- you can't help us anymore.
Outing yourself as a certain role wasn't forced this round because Ginger swings.
*sigh*
That was a big misstep.
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Post by Askthepizzaguy on Oct 5, 2012 13:27:35 GMT -5
And finally, a big FOS on Suburban Plankton.
Let's just back that with a vote. Mine on dizzy is simply registering my complaint at the nonsense she's spewing.
unvote dizzy vote Suburban Plankton for being so very ineffective and in fact, blunderous with your ill-considered or not-considered votes.
You're only putting on the pretense of thinking and discussing. I can't fathom why you'd intentionally fan the flames on Colby like that, except while also rubbing your hands with glee at the potential carnage to unfold.
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Post by LightFoot on Oct 5, 2012 13:28:25 GMT -5
Things do look bad for Ginger. Her posting an edited PM was forced and then she denied editing it. An aside. I am a little confused why she was in such a rush to post it. She arrived to play the game at 1:13 pm Monday She posts her PM on Wednesday at 9:40 am when Night Two still had 28 hours to go. [/aside] I am curious about PizzaGuy's comment that he was role blocked when he attempted to do whatever it was he was trying to do to Ginger (sounds like he was investigating, but since he has refrained from such language...) Unless her PM is a compete fabrication, it does not sound like she could role block herself. Are there any innocent explanations for the role block? The only one that comes to my mind is if PizzaGuy is lying about it. In the meantime Vote: JustBeingGinger [/color] [/quote] I feel obligated to point out that my being roleblocked proves nothing about Ginger's alignment. Her behavior provides real evidence. Evidence that can be misinterpreted, but I don't think it is, here. My being roleblocked because I stated I was a role that can aid the vigilante makes complete sense regardless of Ginger's alignment. I'm a stickler for actual evidence, and I am also a stickler for pointing out logical non-starters. I'd never make the suggestion that my being roleblocked indicated one way or the other, reliably, regarding someone's alignment, except in very specific circumstances wherein I were about to expose someone's scummery and for some reason they couldn't just kill me. Even then it would create a false positive whenever it's not true. It just doesn't indicate well.[/quote] Can you clarify? Are you using the term 'role blocked' because your action did not go through? Or were you told you were blocked?
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Post by Askthepizzaguy on Oct 5, 2012 13:30:14 GMT -5
This forum is fucking up big time. I can't even get the pages to load properly and the tags, oh dear god, the tags.
Seriously. I am guessing you folks are here out of loyalty to good times you've had here, and each other, because it's clearly not the bare-bones, ugly board.
I will type out the tags.
Vote Suburban Plankton
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Post by Askthepizzaguy on Oct 5, 2012 13:36:25 GMT -5
Seeing as I've been role blocked, and given how mediocre my power is to begin with, I'm going to go from a 20% claim to a 90% claim.
I'm still leaving some stuff off the table, sorry but it doesn't warrant revealing it yet.
My ability is to tag certain players, and it prevents them, VERY specifically, from being killed by any vigilante that is working ON THE TOWN SIDE.
It doesn't prevent them from dying due to scum murders or third party mischief.
This means my role could have been used in concert with any town vigilante to prevent mis-vigilantism.
I target our most suspicious suspect, and if we're WRONG, they don't die from the vig.
If we're right, they do die.
Which is extremely beneficial to the town, and why I'm starting townie.
However if I'm roleblocked I can't do shit, and I figure this will clarify what I've been up to so you can understand my play so far this game.
Also, if you're tagged by me, you will pee blue [50% of my targets will have that side effect].
That does nothing, but I felt if I breadcrumbed that, anyone I tagged would understand from the blue pee that I had tagged them, and thus, would have been able to vouch for where I was that night.
My original half-claim was intentionally written to make it difficult to decipher what was really going on. However I left clues behind in the event of my death.
Bottom line: Ginger still a good lynch. Me still not a good lynch. Colby a very, very bad lynch, and you'd be better off lynching me than Colby, but he still shouldn't have claimed today. At all. That's worse than the votes on him, because the negative effects of those votes hasn't happened yet, and he skipped straight to the negative part which is being outed and/or dead.
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Post by Askthepizzaguy on Oct 5, 2012 13:39:33 GMT -5
And I was told I was blocked because I know whether or not my tagging was successful, and I was told very specifically it wasn't successful on Ginger because point blank, I had been roleblocked.
Therefore the scum/hostile parties/blunderous townies have a roleblocker. Most likely: Scum team. They always have a roleblocker.
If anyone ever claims roleblocker, you must assume they're scum in this game. Any town roleblocker better not claim to be such.
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Post by Askthepizzaguy on Oct 5, 2012 13:42:23 GMT -5
Colby, I'm going to need some more details please. To be honest, I'm more likely to vote you now than I was before, because I don't believe you. Why will Town lose if we lynch you? If you can't guess this based on the public data, then you're not reading the game.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Oct 5, 2012 13:45:11 GMT -5
And finally, a big FOS on Suburban Plankton. Let's just back that with a vote. Mine on dizzy is simply registering my complaint at the nonsense she's spewing. unvote dizzyvote Suburban Plankton for being so very ineffective and in fact, blunderous with your ill-considered or not-considered votes. You're only putting on the pretense of thinking and discussing. I can't fathom why you'd intentionally fan the flames on Colby like that, except while also rubbing your hands with glee at the potential carnage to unfold. Well, at least you provided a reason for your vote this time... Regarding my "ill-considered or not-considered votes": I'll admit that my vote on Colby can be described purely as a "you can't do that!...oh yeah, watch me" vote; I don't like being given ultimatums, especially ones with absolutely nothing to back them up, so I placed my vote in an effort to convey that. I believe I was successful. If you're referring to my vote on Inner...what's wrong with it?
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Post by Sister Coyote on Oct 5, 2012 13:47:08 GMT -5
Burby...Pizza specifically spelled out he was voting you because of your vote on Colby. Right there in the part you quoted.
vote: suburban plankton unvote: colby
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Post by Askthepizzaguy on Oct 5, 2012 13:50:11 GMT -5
Given town has few roles to begin with, and given the idea of a town converter, you KNOW there's at least one role in this town which is utterly crippling for town to lose.
Yet you were still beyond reckless with your vote.
The good news is, there's obviously a backup to Colby11's role, or else the game wasn't particularly well designed, IMO.
But, the fact that we will be forced to use the backup this early thanks to your instigation bodes poorly for town.
And yes, it's your fault and Colby's. I place the blame squarely on your reckless play. That was beyond reckless from both of you. You're BOTH much better players than that, and I know, because I've seen you both play well before.
Whatever that was that just happened right now was in the category of the critically not thinking.
Please be careful. Now we have to be extremely careful not to force the backup into a claim situation. WHY was it so necessary to push him today? Ginger was the clear lynch, by a wide margin, IIRC.
And she had already claimed as someone that is especially non-critical for us to lose even if we're wrong.
Yesterday's blunders were forgivable even if they were obscene, this, this is just bad play. period.
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Post by Askthepizzaguy on Oct 5, 2012 13:51:03 GMT -5
That's assuming you're friendly third party, because you, Plankton, are OBVIOUSLY non-town after all that.
I'm really hoping for your sake you are scum and that was intentional.
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