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Day One
Nov 29, 2012 23:48:43 GMT -5
Post by patricia on Nov 29, 2012 23:48:43 GMT -5
Sorry, I have been real busy with RL issues - But I'm glad the countdown hasn't started yet as I would like to vote before that starts. I haven't had the time to carefully read Day one as of yet I have skimmed it in part and as of now I'm leaning towards voting for Lightfoot - but I really need more time before placing a vote - I hope to have the time tomorrow but I will have to see how my workday goes.
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Nov 30, 2012 0:02:39 GMT -5
Post by LightFoot on Nov 30, 2012 0:02:39 GMT -5
Sorry, I have been real busy with RL issues - But I'm glad the countdown hasn't started yet as I would like to vote before that starts. I haven't had the time to carefully read Day one as of yet I have skimmed it in part and as of now I'm leaning towards voting for Lightfoot - but I really need more time before placing a vote - I hope to have the time tomorrow but I will have to see how my workday goes. As stated before I'm not the countdown police ( or am I now) after the countdown starts there is 24 hours to vote/change- if you vote before the second countdown is triggered it adds 48 hours at the very least to the Day- If you are clear on that - sorry to bother
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Nov 30, 2012 1:26:20 GMT -5
Post by dizzymrslizzy on Nov 30, 2012 1:26:20 GMT -5
I find it VERY odd that Meeko hasn't posted much if at all. The two games I've played with him he's been ultra active and very vocal. Definitely something to look into.
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Day One
Nov 30, 2012 1:39:28 GMT -5
Post by Askthepizzaguy on Nov 30, 2012 1:39:28 GMT -5
Checking in.
Someone mentioned something about a flinch. There may or may not be a flinch. Right now without a countdown I would expect any scums to stand pat.
Moving around draws attention and, in this circumstance, is the mark of someone who is not playing with caution or not playing defensively. Ergo the aggression is either townie or bold scum unafraid of D1 scrutiny.
Odds heavily suggest townie.
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Nov 30, 2012 2:06:40 GMT -5
Post by LightFoot on Nov 30, 2012 2:06:40 GMT -5
Checking in. Someone mentioned something about a flinch. There may or may not be a flinch. Right now without a countdown I would expect any scums to stand pat. Moving around draws attention and, in this circumstance, is the mark of someone who is not playing with caution or not playing defensively. Ergo the aggression is either townie or bold scum unafraid of D1 scrutiny. Odds heavily suggest townie. Not sure who you are referring to But I’ve got time so I’ll respond The other factions already have some intel- granted Town -LG-is the only subset that is in the dark Which means that the only intel Town is going to get will be after the EOD To me- the players that are dragging the Day longer by finger pulls are “ playing” the know-nothings-yet. So I disagree with your thought process that Scum are more likely staying put than Town Unless I read you wrong But wait- in summation you say it could be Town OR (qualified) Scum Right?
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Nov 30, 2012 4:01:33 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Nov 30, 2012 4:01:33 GMT -5
I find it VERY odd that Meeko hasn't posted much if at all. The two games I've played with him he's been ultra active and very vocal. Definitely something to look into. Or it could jut be that I haven't found a way to crack any of this. I have no reason. No case to vote anyone. No results from last night. ;-)
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Nov 30, 2012 4:49:03 GMT -5
Post by guiri on Nov 30, 2012 4:49:03 GMT -5
Can someone explain to me the benefits of not voting or not changing a vote until after the countdown begins? Or, to put it another way, why do we want the countdown to start already? It's not like there's a clear lynch leader, discussion has died down, or everyone is content with their current vote. I appreciate that we'll have some more information toMorrow after the reveals from the lynch and any Night kills but 7 players have yet to vote toDay, none of the lynch leaders have been under sufficient pressure to need to claim, letting the countdown start yesterday or today would mean a weekend EOD and people often are not around. Is it the time constraint that favors us? Or it could jut be that I haven't found a way to crack any of this. And so you lay low? Not buying it.
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Nov 30, 2012 4:49:48 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Nov 30, 2012 4:49:48 GMT -5
Is this a question? Would you like to know why I voted Lightfoot? Did you not understand the case or simply not agree with it? I just don't agree. I see the "case" but fail to see that it's the best lynch of the Day.
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Nov 30, 2012 4:56:02 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Nov 30, 2012 4:56:02 GMT -5
18 people are voting, which means 7 have not. They are: Inner, Red, Total, patricia, laurie, Meeko, Hockey And they have 2, 2, 16, 1, 4, 6, and 7 posts in Day One respectively. I believe Hockey is the only one to have placed a vote already, but then unvoted. Are you 7 waiting for the countdown to start before you vote? If so, who are you planning on voting for once we have hit the 24 hour mark? I am waiting for the deadline to start or for others to agree that we need the Day to go on. Because I feel we could have this Day last for too long a period (leading us to players interest failing and the game to dies out). I have 3 players ATM, I'd like to vote for. 1. Plankton - I didn't like the random-vote at all. And this proves why it's a horrible strategy because when you go AWOL the votes stays. So that made me consider voting for him. However that would be a policy vote and I am unsure if that it the best kind of vote today. BUT then there is the change in the motivation behind the vote (as LightFoot pointed out) and that's making him look very scummy to me. So I'll Nominate Plankton as my vote after the deadline2. Also I like the case on Hockey. But I just feel stronger about Plankton ATM. 3. If someone in this game came right out and said "Total is not part of my team" I'd vote for that player. Because I'd like my team to win. I find it very odd indeed that Pizza isn't voting Peeker...
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Nov 30, 2012 5:00:24 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Nov 30, 2012 5:00:24 GMT -5
I find it VERY odd that Meeko hasn't posted much if at all. The two games I've played with him he's been ultra active and very vocal. Definitely something to look into. Or it could jut be that I haven't found a way to crack any of this. I have no reason. No case to vote anyone. Why don't you start by commenting on some of the things going on? How do you feel about random-voting? What do you think about Peeker saying Pizza isn't on his team? Do you think we should start the count-down or would you like more time? Is diplomacy really a scum tell?
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Day One
Nov 30, 2012 5:07:30 GMT -5
Post by KidVermicious on Nov 30, 2012 5:07:30 GMT -5
Mahaloth (4): Crys (241), Pollux (271), Pizzaguy (290), Ginger (300) Peeker (3): Dizzy (88), Chucara (109), Gnarly (150) Burbs (3): Wombat (237), SisC (238), Colby (283) Lightfoot (2): Burbs (66), Drain Bead (138) Hockey Monkey (2): Astral (145), Guiri (310) Chucara (1): MHaye (72) Wombat (1): Lightfoot (113) Pizzaguy (1): Peeker (292) Ginger (1): Mahaloth (322)
The last vote was 11/29 at 6:32 PM MST (-7). If there are no more votes, a 24hour countdown to EOD will begin on 11/30 at 6:32 PM MST. Please remember that no votes will count after EOD, whether or not I'm around to close the thread.
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Nov 30, 2012 6:53:34 GMT -5
Post by Askthepizzaguy on Nov 30, 2012 6:53:34 GMT -5
3. If someone in this game came right out and said "Total is not part of my team" I'd vote for that player. Because I'd like my team to win. I find it very odd indeed that Pizza isn't voting Peeker... You find it at all likely that peeker, as chaotic evil, would specifically state that I was not on his team? If that's the case, that's the sort of entertaining bravado that I'd like to encourage. It gets stuffy in here when people play all cautiously.
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Nov 30, 2012 6:58:51 GMT -5
Post by JustBeingGinger on Nov 30, 2012 6:58:51 GMT -5
Can we get a updated vote count and has the countdown begun? Vote Mahaloth A vote based on opinion of if some is a good player or not is a weak vote in my book. I do not like Suburban's play on trying to bring up postings on other boards and the postings of Lightfoot under two different names. Plus the fluff postings. There is not much content there. Gnarly plays like this be it that he is scum or he is town. His playstyle is a null tell. Is this a Pizza-style flinch? Breaking a 4-way tie and resetting the countdown clock without waiting for the mod question to be answered... seems like there's some urgency there to put someone in the lead. Or is the real meaningful flinching expected closer to EOD? To me it mattered but didn't really matter what the Mod answered to my question, I had not placed a vote in the Day so that needed to be done regardless if the countdown had begun or not. Honestly, I was not sure who was in the lead at that point that is why I asked for a vote count as well. Lightfoot, I did realize I HAD to respond to your posts and your thoughts about the countdown. I had just caught up on 10 pages of posts from everything from stuffing a bird to trying to translate Peeker. I skimmed sort of read your posts because honestly, I don't give a rats ass when Day ends and I had to vote so if that reset the clock or not, so be it.
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Day One
Nov 30, 2012 6:59:28 GMT -5
Post by Askthepizzaguy on Nov 30, 2012 6:59:28 GMT -5
Given that myself and several others hold within their grasp the outcome-altering vote, which is precisely the strategy I suggested at the beginning of the round, I believe that it would be in the best interests of mahaloth, peeker, burby, lightfot, and hockey monkey to demonstrate why one of the others would be a better lynch.
It's hardly a runaway and it can so easily fall in any direction. How do the defendants plead....
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Nov 30, 2012 7:05:13 GMT -5
Post by JustBeingGinger on Nov 30, 2012 7:05:13 GMT -5
So Mahaloth then explain to me why you placed a FOS on Total?
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Nov 30, 2012 7:24:25 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Nov 30, 2012 7:24:25 GMT -5
3. If someone in this game came right out and said "Total is not part of my team" I'd vote for that player. Because I'd like my team to win. I find it very odd indeed that Pizza isn't voting Peeker... You find it at all likely that peeker, as chaotic evil, would specifically state that I was not on his team? If that's the case, that's the sort of entertaining bravado that I'd like to encourage. It gets stuffy in here when people play all cautiously. One thing peeker is in mafia is ballsy. After he and MHaye (both scum) made a mason-claim and got away with it, I wouldn't put anything past him. However - what I find so odd is what ever you are, you must want to eliminate the other teams. So here you have a guy saying he's not on your team. And you don't seem at all surprised. You hardly react. So I think - in what case would I not react to news like that? And my first thought was: What if it wasn't news to you? What if you already knew this... And that's why I am very suspicious of you. Because IF that is the case then you already knew your team. And that would lead to the conclusion that you're not Lawful Good.
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Day One
Nov 30, 2012 9:08:27 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Nov 30, 2012 9:08:27 GMT -5
One thing peeker is in mafia is ballsy. After he and MHaye (both scum) made a mason-claim and got away with it, I wouldn't put anything past him. <snipped> actually it was NAF and mhaye. yeh, i was on the scum team but was just along for the ride for that bout of madness.
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Day One
Nov 30, 2012 9:19:56 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Nov 30, 2012 9:19:56 GMT -5
and for those of you worried about a long Day go look at story's marvel game (?). carp i think D1 lasted three weeks.
and so i grudgingly agree with pizza. i was town that game and hammered the vote both D1 and D2. promptly got lynched for it on D3. so as long as someone moves or votes with a reason i see no egregiousness involved. seriously, i was just getting bored and wanted to move forward. in retrospect probably not the most solid foundation but whaddyagonnado. seriously, if you are in raft in the middle of the ocean it feels better just to start paddling as opposed to just piddling.
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Day One
Nov 30, 2012 10:44:44 GMT -5
Post by dizzymrslizzy on Nov 30, 2012 10:44:44 GMT -5
Okay can I ask a format question:
Poll for the group type thing.....
So Lawful Good is Town Chaotic Evil is Scum
Where does that leave Chaotic Good and Lawful Evil. Are they just non-hostile 3rd parties, since they don't win steal?
As LG if we find any CG/LE players, what should the protocol be for them? Are we just going to judge on a case by case situation. It seems like there may be a handful of detective types based on the example of roles.
So IMO that's another reason to try and move on with the day. If we consider CG/LE pro-town, then we could depending on how many power roles there are, have 2-3 results tonight? Does that make sense or am I pulling that from thin air?
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Nov 30, 2012 11:02:14 GMT -5
Post by Mahaloth on Nov 30, 2012 11:02:14 GMT -5
So Mahaloth then explain to me why you placed a FOS on Total? For the same reason that eventually made me vote for him. Are you skimming? I'll put my explanation in quotes. Did you not read that? I posted it.
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Nov 30, 2012 11:03:37 GMT -5
Post by Mahaloth on Nov 30, 2012 11:03:37 GMT -5
Am I the only one seeing that Ginger is skimming?
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Nov 30, 2012 11:33:46 GMT -5
Post by JustBeingGinger on Nov 30, 2012 11:33:46 GMT -5
Am I the only one seeing that Ginger is skimming? Did you not read the part that stated I was catching up on read 10 pages of posts. DO you read every word and do you remember everything that was written? I wanted you to state why you were suspicious of Total again just so that I was sure of why you were and yes, it is the same reason for voting for you. You are simply voting for Total due to her opinion of her play on mafia. I find that weak and has no ground to stand on. Would scum down play their role on mafia, sure, but would town as well, sure. It's a null tell and a weak vote.
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Nov 30, 2012 11:44:48 GMT -5
Post by Sister Coyote on Nov 30, 2012 11:44:48 GMT -5
Who said I didn't know there were different alignments? Yes, I'm well aware of that. I was not aware that any other than the CE scum team would have off board communications. I missed the part in the rules about that. Totally scummy behavior on my part. <font style="font-size: 12px;">Am I the only one seeing that Ginger is skimming? I don't have any particular LG leans on anyone just yet, but: I do not think skimming is a Scum tell. IME, quite the opposite. Just like I don't think not having read the rules is a Scum tell, because, frankly, I don't think anyone reads them.
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Nov 30, 2012 12:08:16 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Nov 30, 2012 12:08:16 GMT -5
I do not think skimming is a Scum tell. IME, quite the opposite. Just like I don't think not having read the rules is a Scum tell, because, frankly, I don't think anyone reads them. I agree :-)
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Nov 30, 2012 12:10:47 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Nov 30, 2012 12:10:47 GMT -5
One thing peeker is in mafia is ballsy. After he and MHaye (both scum) made a mason-claim and got away with it, I wouldn't put anything past him. <snipped> actually it was NAF and mhaye. yeh, i was on the scum team but was just along for the ride for that bout of madness. My mistake - sorry! Still - if you know Pizza is not on your team and you told as all so. Doesn't it wonder you why he's not voting you?
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Nov 30, 2012 12:13:02 GMT -5
Post by Mahaloth on Nov 30, 2012 12:13:02 GMT -5
Did you not read the part that stated I was catching up on read 10 pages of posts. DO you read every word and do you remember everything that was written? I try to, especially when I'm voting for someone.
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Nov 30, 2012 12:13:44 GMT -5
Post by Mahaloth on Nov 30, 2012 12:13:44 GMT -5
You are simply voting for Total due to her opinion of her play on mafia. I find that weak and has no ground to stand on. Would scum down play their role on mafia, sure, but would town as well, sure. It's a null tell and a weak vote. I'm not voting for Total currently.
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Day One
Nov 30, 2012 13:56:46 GMT -5
Post by gnarlycharlie on Nov 30, 2012 13:56:46 GMT -5
Inner, Red, Total, patricia, laurie, Meeko, Hockey And they have 2, 2, 16, 1, 4, 6, and 7 posts in Day One respectively. Meeko? He was MVP in All Star yet here he's lurking? Something's way off. I'd be willing to lynch Meeko too. that's actually a good point. based on the games he and i have played together, i think Meeko's scum and town play really seem worlds apart. his play in this game definitely is very different. he merits a closer look if he continues it on D2.
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Nov 30, 2012 14:01:32 GMT -5
Post by Chucara on Nov 30, 2012 14:01:32 GMT -5
I have a massive headache atm. and faced trouble on the giraffe game (unrelated), I'm happy with my vote still, but probably won't be around this weekend as I have an apartment that needs to be finished by sunday when the tenants move in.
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Nov 30, 2012 14:37:05 GMT -5
Post by Askthepizzaguy on Nov 30, 2012 14:37:05 GMT -5
If I don't think Peeker is Chaotic Evil, then why would I vote for him?
Either one of the other two factions are potential allies. You're not thinking this through very carefully, Total.
He's a far better lynch than a lawful good, yeah, but my philosophy is to lynch scum if I can, not necessarily the least bad lynch. I want the most good lynch, not the least bad lynch.
Besides, killing everyone whose alignment I can deduce reduces my ability to solve the game. Shooting an unknown is more advantageous.
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