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Day Two
Jul 8, 2013 23:08:16 GMT -5
Post by dizzymrslizzy on Jul 8, 2013 23:08:16 GMT -5
Pizza Um, I'm not a Tracker, so I didn't track anyone. I AM a watcher. Slight difference, but a difference none the less.
Cookies, Let's put it this way. I didn't watch either of the two players that died last night, and I didn't see you visit the person I watched. I'd rather hold my results at the moment.
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Day Two
Jul 8, 2013 23:11:56 GMT -5
Post by dizzymrslizzy on Jul 8, 2013 23:11:56 GMT -5
First and foremost, I thought there was 5 more hours in the day. I thought day ended at 7pm EST, and was shocked to find out that it ended when it did. If I knew that Day ended when it did, I wouldn't have claimed. My move at the time of EOD, was to claim and hope some of the votes on me would move off to someone else. And then when 6pm came about if I was still tied or one off, I could have placed a self preservation vote if needed. LOL. Yeah, reading the EOD after the fact, it looked like a cluster. It appears to me, Dizzy, that you actually claimed after the EOD. Two deaths. Ugh. If one is a town vig, I urge them to hold their fire until there is a little more to go on. That they did not hold their fire, makes me suspect that we have a SK in our midst. Um yeah cluster-eff on me yesterDay. I feel like a dumbass having claimed after the Day was over. I keep going back and forth over whether I think it's a Vig or a SK. I didn't see Silver Jan as a likely Scum or Vig target.
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Day Two
Jul 8, 2013 23:25:52 GMT -5
Post by Askthepizzaguy on Jul 8, 2013 23:25:52 GMT -5
Pizza Um, I'm not a Tracker, so I didn't track anyone. I AM a watcher. Slight difference, but a difference none the less. Cookies, Let's put it this way. I didn't watch either of the two players that died last night, and I didn't see you visit the person I watched. I'd rather hold my results at the moment. My apologies, I thought you claimed Tracker. I misremembered. If you are a Watcher, and you didn't see a murder happen, then yes, I concur with holding the results. That information is not necessary for the scums to learn.
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Day Two
Jul 8, 2013 23:29:58 GMT -5
Post by dizzymrslizzy on Jul 8, 2013 23:29:58 GMT -5
Exactly....if I had seen a murder I would have outed that, because that's auto scum kill today.
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Day Two
Jul 8, 2013 23:36:39 GMT -5
Post by texcat on Jul 8, 2013 23:36:39 GMT -5
Meeko in the game with the rest of us, employing a dubious strategy with dubious logic. Seems like a perfectly viable topic of conversation. There's no personal attacks, and I'd say the same thing to anyone else and expect to be called on it myself if I were the one playing that way. What's the problem? We can call each other liars but illogical or stubborn is going too far? Dizzy owes us a Watching target at this point, and as someone already pointed out, a Watcher claim from a Scum wouldn't necessarily be a lie, so her claim doesn't do much toward diminishing my Day 1 suspicions. Then there is Suburban who has gone after two known Town in his voting record at this point. Colby, I don't have much of a read on at all. Your turn, Texcat. Jump in with your scum-hunting strategy any time. OK. Let's look at the Guiri voters: guiri (2): colby (#2-#2), dizzymrslizzy (#19), meeko (#26), Suburban Plankton (#36-#46), gnarlycharlie (#38-#157)Colby's vote was clearly not a real vote: The other 4 voters were early Day votes. And it was Day One. Meeko and Dizzy seemed to be voting for the multi-vote without adequate reasons, which was fine for early on Day 1, but they stuck with it. Suburban and Gnarly piled on. Suburban because nothing looked any better and Gnarly because it did not seem like typical Guiri. Suburban moved his vote quickly when accused of opportunistic bandwagoning. Gnarly left his vote until he voted Paranoia as a self-preservation vote. Most of it just looks like early Day 1 voting to me. Suburban is slightly suspicious because he moved his vote when called out on it. Although, I actually doubt that a scummy Burby would have done that; I'd have expected him to dig in. And Meeko I would have expected to dig in like he did whether scum or town. Dizzy claims she was re-considering when Day ended before she expected it to, and I think that's obviously true. Gnarly's vote would look the most suspicious of the bunch if it were for the same reasons, but his reason of Guiri not acting like typical Guiri makes a little more sense to me. I just don't see a lot here at the moment. I too am looking forward whatever info Gnarly and Dizzy have.
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Day Two
Jul 8, 2013 23:38:16 GMT -5
Post by Askthepizzaguy on Jul 8, 2013 23:38:16 GMT -5
Or vig kill.
My recommend is to say that you've seen one of the murders if you've seen it, not necessarily press outing the person who did it automatically, just present it as an option.
I'm trying to think of a way to play it wisely if you spot the vigilante.
I'm thinking breadcrumb, but I don't see how that's superior to just claiming which kills were yours when you claim.
@ all Any suggestions?
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Jul 8, 2013 23:40:33 GMT -5
Post by Askthepizzaguy on Jul 8, 2013 23:40:33 GMT -5
To clarify, I mean what the vig should do. Surely there's a superior option to just being outed.
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Post by Colby11 on Jul 9, 2013 0:34:50 GMT -5
CIAS, what's a Gaoler?
In other news, why didn't scum kill either Gnarly or Dizzy, a claimed cop and watcher?
Seething smells off to me here. You can fake claim a watcher easier than a detective, so Vote: Dizzymrslizzy
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Post by CatInASuit on Jul 9, 2013 3:43:28 GMT -5
Day 2 Vote Count:Cookies(1): meeko (#6) BillMc(1): AskThePizzaGuy (#8) Pleonast(1): Mahaloth (#24) DizzyMrsLizzy(1): colby (#37) With these votes, as of post 37, Cookies will be lynched No Comment.
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Post by Meeko on Jul 9, 2013 3:43:38 GMT -5
And if every single vote on Guiri yesterday was placed by townies, you offing Guiri would feed right into your comments here. Is that what you think happened? Only Townies voted for Guiri? You would know this better than I would, wouldn't you?
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Post by Meeko on Jul 9, 2013 3:44:52 GMT -5
Day 2 Vote Count:Cookies(1): meeko (#6) BillMc(1): AskThePizzaGuy (#8) Pleonast(1): Mahaloth (#24) DizzyMrsLizzy(1): colby (#37) With these votes, as of post 37, Cookies will be lynched No Comment. In my defense, the vote buttons are backwards.
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Jul 9, 2013 3:50:07 GMT -5
Looks to be an archaic spelling of jailer. Sucks that we lost two. Methinks all of the Guiri voters yesterday just earned themselves the hairy eyeball. i don't think it's archaic in the the UK where CIAS is from. i believe it's also pronounced the same as jailer. It was pretty damned obvious he was townie to anyone who was paying attention. I have absolutely no special knowledge or perfect information either. He was simply acting like how townies should be acting D1, and how scumbags almost never behave. It's called reading people. here we go again about something being obvious. you know it never is. Seriously, Meeko, you need to find a better place to park your vote and take your reactionary blinders off. Your knee-jerk OMGUS reaction to Guiri happening to include you in his early Day 1 multi-vote has been proven to be wrong. Guiri was in fact Town, and despite your not being able to think of any possible way that a Townie could be motivated to vote like that, low and behold, a Townie was motivated to vote like that. Now today, you're jumping to another knee-jerk OMGUS reaction vote on me because I've stated a desire to go scum-hunting in a pool of people that happens to include you. I didn't even mention you as an individual in that pool, and I honestly think you're just being a wrong-headed Townie if anything. But apparently not only am I apparently a scum suggesting that people consider scum-hunting in the pool of Guiri voters, but actually the entire pool of Guiri voters have actually somehow been cleared as Townies. Even if it somehow turns out to be true that all of the Guiri voters are Town, there is absolutely zero reason to make that assumption at this point in the game, and certainly not as part of a confirmation biased hypothetical justification to vote for someone else. this is typical Meeko but it's also typical of his town play so that may be helpful. ------------------------------- some interesting (read: bad) news. i had no result last night. so either i was blocked or my target was "shielded" from my power. of course, i'm not surprised.
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Post by Meeko on Jul 9, 2013 3:50:58 GMT -5
Seriously, Meeko, you need to find a better place to park your vote and take your reactionary blinders off. Your knee-jerk OMGUS reaction to Guiri happening to include you in his early Day 1 multi-vote has been proven to be wrong. Guiri was in fact Town, and despite your not being able to think of any possible way that a Townie could be motivated to vote like that, low and behold, a Townie was motivated to vote like that. Now today, you're jumping to another knee-jerk OMGUS reaction vote on me because I've stated a desire to go scum-hunting in a pool of people that happens to include you. I didn't even mention you as an individual in that pool, and I honestly think you're just being a wrong-headed Townie if anything. But apparently not only am I apparently a scum suggesting that people consider scum-hunting in the pool of Guiri voters, but actually the entire pool of Guiri voters have actually somehow been cleared as Townies. Even if it somehow turns out to be true that all of the Guiri voters are Town, there is absolutely zero reason to make that assumption at this point in the game, and certainly not as part of a confirmation biased hypothetical justification to vote for someone else. Reactionary blinders. What are these three paragraphs if to reaction? Straight up, and with no BS here cookies, you used to make more sense in older games we played. Your ulterior motives are up an order of magnitude for this one though.
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Jul 9, 2013 3:58:29 GMT -5
CIAS, what's a Gaoler?In other news, why didn't scum kill either Gnarly or Dizzy, a claimed cop and watcher? Seething smells off to me here. You can fake claim a watcher easier than a detective, so Vote: Dizzymrslizzy for an experienced player and a mod at that, you seem to be ignoring the obvious, the claimed roles may have been watched or protected. in my case, i was likely blocked. why kill me when they can neuter me and possibly get town to lynch me? feels like a smudge. Vote: Colbyi'm also willing to lynch Bill for his behavior yesterDay.
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Post by Colby11 on Jul 9, 2013 9:53:18 GMT -5
CIAS, what's a Gaoler?In other news, why didn't scum kill either Gnarly or Dizzy, a claimed cop and watcher? Seething smells off to me here. You can fake claim a watcher easier than a detective, so Vote: Dizzymrslizzy for an experienced player and a mod at that, you seem to be ignoring the obvious, the claimed roles may have been watched or protected. in my case, i was likely blocked. why kill me when they can neuter me and possibly get town to lynch me? feels like a smudge. Vote: Colbyi'm also willing to lynch Bill for his behavior yesterDay. Yes, but I would bet that the detective would have been protected, and I would have personally taken out the watcher, if she really was a town watcher. Which is why I went after Dizzy. Watcher is great to claim as scum, see HK2 and Plankton claiming tracker as scum. You, I feel as being truthful.
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Day Two
Jul 9, 2013 10:23:09 GMT -5
Post by Pleonast on Jul 9, 2013 10:23:09 GMT -5
Her comments look like a slip to me. A slip of what? Please give us more to go on. And if every single vote on Guiri yesterday was placed by townies, you offing Guiri would feed right into your comments here. How likely do you think that every single vote on guiri was placed by townies? ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ For now, I'm going to vote Suburban Planktonfor their vote on guiri YesterDay. I'm likely to change it once I think more about the final voting record.
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Day Two
Jul 9, 2013 11:04:57 GMT -5
Post by Pleonast on Jul 9, 2013 11:04:57 GMT -5
Day One Vote Count
dizzymrslizzy has 5 votes from texcat (5-16), silverjan (91-162), guiri (97), DarkCookies (101), askthepizzaguy (170), silverjan (200), paranoia (204). paranoia has 5 votes from texcat (86), pleonast (123), Suburban Plankton (124), Gnarlycharlie (157), BillMc (178). Gnarlycharlie has 2 votes from askthepizzaguy (49-170), colby (61), patricia (82), paranoia (153-204), silverjan (162-200). guiri has 2 votes from colby (2-2), dizzymrslizzy (19), meeko (26), Suburban Plankton (36-46), Gnarlycharlie (38-157). colby has 1 vote from Jaade (79), mahaloth (93-156). pleonast has 1 vote from mahaloth (156). askthepizzaguy has no votes. BillMc has no votes. DarkCookies has no votes. Jaade has 0 votes from texcat (16-40), paranoia (100-153). mahaloth has no votes. meeko has 0 votes from Suburban Plankton (46-124). patricia has no votes. silverjan has no votes. Suburban Plankton has 0 votes from guiri (1-97), pleonast (39-123), paranoia (74-100). texcat has no votes. No Lynch has no votes.
askthepizzaguy has voted for Gnarlycharlie (49-170), dizzymrslizzy (170). BillMc has voted for paranoia (178). colby has voted for guiri (2-2), Gnarlycharlie (61). DarkCookies has voted for dizzymrslizzy (101). dizzymrslizzy has voted for guiri (19). Gnarlycharlie has voted for guiri (38-157), paranoia (157). guiri has voted for Suburban Plankton (1-97), dizzymrslizzy (97). Jaade has voted for colby (79). mahaloth has voted for colby (93-156), pleonast (156). meeko has voted for guiri (26). paranoia has voted for Suburban Plankton (74-100), Jaade (100-153), Gnarlycharlie (153-204), dizzymrslizzy (204). patricia has voted for Gnarlycharlie (82). pleonast has voted for Suburban Plankton (39-123), paranoia (123). silverjan has voted for dizzymrslizzy (91-162), Gnarlycharlie (162-200), dizzymrslizzy (200). Suburban Plankton has voted for guiri (36-46), meeko (46-124), paranoia (124). texcat has voted for dizzymrslizzy (5-16), Jaade (16-40), paranoia (86).
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Day Two
Jul 9, 2013 11:22:27 GMT -5
Post by Pleonast on Jul 9, 2013 11:22:27 GMT -5
The voting record makes dizzymrslizzy look bad. Three of their voters are dead the next Day. Plus their vote on guiri. I'd be voting for them, except for the claim. I'm not willing to vote a claimed power role quite this early, although it's very tempting.
I guess I'll leave my vote Plankton for now.
silverjan's death is hard to explain.
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Day Two
Jul 9, 2013 11:27:34 GMT -5
Post by BillMc on Jul 9, 2013 11:27:34 GMT -5
I really should have gotten my notes/predictions witnessed - shame I suck with the lottery numbers 1) neither gnarly or dizzy would get killed 2) pizza would cast further doubt on gnarly, and vote for me 3) gnarly would be blocked and would want to vote for me for effectively not voting for him
so three to me I think there.
Now from yesterday's voting record, and if we trust gnarly and dizzy's claims - the pool the scum are hiding in is rather small, especially when you remove myself and my fellow masons from that pool. My fellow masons need not come forward now, nor vouch for me. But if anyone wants to counterclaim me - feel free.
At this point, Pizza and Plankton are the scum on my pond of suspicion.
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Day Two
Jul 9, 2013 12:14:16 GMT -5
Post by Askthepizzaguy on Jul 9, 2013 12:14:16 GMT -5
I really should have gotten my notes/predictions witnessed - shame I suck with the lottery numbers 1) neither gnarly or dizzy would get killed 2) pizza would cast further doubt on gnarly, and vote for me 3) gnarly would be blocked and would want to vote for me for effectively not voting for him so three to me I think there. Now from yesterday's voting record, and if we trust gnarly and dizzy's claims - the pool the scum are hiding in is rather small, especially when you remove myself and my fellow masons from that pool. My fellow masons need not come forward now, nor vouch for me. But if anyone wants to counterclaim me - feel free. At this point, Pizza and Plankton are the scum on my pond of suspicion. What is this I don't even I predict BillMc would come in here and post exactly this, it was in my notes somewhere I promise. Three to you Bill? Predicting stuff that has already happened? Okay Miss Cleo. I am loving the distance you and gnarly are attempting to put between yourselves, after saving his butt. That's not scummy at all.
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Day Two
Jul 9, 2013 12:42:05 GMT -5
Post by Askthepizzaguy on Jul 9, 2013 12:42:05 GMT -5
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Jul 9, 2013 18:01:26 GMT -5
Post by BillMc on Jul 9, 2013 18:01:26 GMT -5
I am loving the distance you and gnarly are attempting to put between yourselves, after saving his butt. That's not scummy at all. So you are saying gnarly is lying about being the cop, and that i'm lying about being a mason....yet no one is counterclaiming. You're clutching at non-existent straws and still drowning Vote: ATPG
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Day Two
Jul 9, 2013 19:32:27 GMT -5
Post by Mahaloth on Jul 9, 2013 19:32:27 GMT -5
In other news, why didn't scum kill either Gnarly or Dizzy, a claimed cop and watcher? :snipped: Well, it could have been redirected or they feared they'd be protected so they aimed elsewhere.
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Day Two
Jul 9, 2013 20:20:48 GMT -5
Post by texcat on Jul 9, 2013 20:20:48 GMT -5
BillMc, masons. Well, that's interesting. I urge you to tell us how many masons there are in your little group -- as a precaution. Can you communicate privately? You've totally lost me on most of the rest. You voted Paranoia yesterday and expressed suspicions of Gnarly. Where did these predictions come from? Have you changed your mind on Gnarly? And, if so, why? Did I miss something that confirms his claim? And can you explain the case on Pizza, or is it just that he's voting for you?
Colby, I don't think that Dizzy's being alive this morning makes her any more suspicious than she was yesterday. I can think of any number of reasons why scum would not try to immediately kill a claimed power role. And who knows? Perhaps they did try to kill her and were unsuccessful and the other two kills belong to a vig and a SK?
Cookies, What do you think about the Paranoia voters? Shouldn't they be looked at as well? No SilverJan voters to look at though.
Dizzy, You might consider telling us who you watched, but not what you saw? Or is that a bad idea? Would it give scum a clue as to who you might watch next?
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Day Two
Jul 9, 2013 21:42:13 GMT -5
Post by Askthepizzaguy on Jul 9, 2013 21:42:13 GMT -5
I am loving the distance you and gnarly are attempting to put between yourselves, after saving his butt. That's not scummy at all. So you are saying gnarly is lying about being the cop, and that i'm lying about being a mason....yet no one is counterclaiming. You're clutching at non-existent straws and still drowning Vote: ATPGWhen did you claim mason? And I don't expect someone to counterclaim a false detective claim on Day One, BillMc. That's just silly. Maybe they'd just suggest that gnarly is lying.
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Day Two
Jul 9, 2013 21:43:12 GMT -5
Post by Askthepizzaguy on Jul 9, 2013 21:43:12 GMT -5
Unvote BillMc
Vote Gnarlycharlie
Like this.
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Day Two
Jul 9, 2013 21:49:13 GMT -5
Post by Askthepizzaguy on Jul 9, 2013 21:49:13 GMT -5
Are you grokking what I'm insinuating?
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Jul 9, 2013 22:02:25 GMT -5
Post by Askthepizzaguy on Jul 9, 2013 22:02:25 GMT -5
In other news, why didn't scum kill either Gnarly or Dizzy, a claimed cop and watcher? :snipped: Well, it could have been redirected or they feared they'd be protected so they aimed elsewhere. I have a different theory, obviously.
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Day Two
Jul 9, 2013 22:43:10 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Jul 9, 2013 22:43:10 GMT -5
Is this the rumored monologue I've heard about?
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Jul 9, 2013 22:44:50 GMT -5
Post by Askthepizzaguy on Jul 9, 2013 22:44:50 GMT -5
More like the rumored double-posting. Though I have a habit of replying in spurts larger than two.
When I monologue, I'd put even you to shame, Meeko. Keep an eye out for it.
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