Day Two

[CatInASuit]

A sad fateful Night, at least for two people out there:

Old Mother Hubbard went to the cupboard
and did not return with a bone.
For her corpse was found,
interred in the ground,
and the poor little doggie had none.

Guiri aka Old Mother Hubbard (Duke of York - Gaoler) has been found buried alive, but isn't alive, but...you know what I mean.

Mondays child is fair of face,
Tuesdays child is full of grace,
Wednesdays child is full of woe,
Thursdays child has far to go, to catch up with her head which was found a dozen feet away from the body.

SilverJan aka Thursdays Child (Duke of York - Vanilla) seems to be missing an important part of her anatomy.

Day Two will end at 8pm BST on Monday 15th July.

[Colby11]

What's a Gaoler?

[ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies]

Looks to be an archaic spelling of jailer.

Sucks that we lost two. Methinks all of the Guiri voters yesterday just earned themselves the hairy eyeball.

[Meeko]

Jul 8, 2013 14:27:06 GMT -5 ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies said:

Looks to be an archaic spelling of jailer.

Sucks that we lost two. Methinks all of the Guiri voters yesterday just earned themselves the hairy eyeball.

How is this?

Should we have voted for someone more...... Cookieish?

[Suburban Plankton]

Jul 8, 2013 14:27:06 GMT -5 ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies said:

Methinks all of the Guiri voters yesterday just earned themselves the hairy eyeball.

Given that there were two deaths, conventional wisdom says that one was the work of Scum, and the other a Vig/SK. You seem to be assuming that guiri was the Scum kill, else your statement here doesn't make sense. Why make that assumption?

[Meeko]

Unvote: Cookies

Her comments look like a slip to me.

[Meeko]

NETA

Vote: Cookies

Obviously.

(Does one need to unvote an unvote first? Do I need to vote to cancel it out, and then vote again, once at zero? What's the procedure here?)

[guiri]

Go Duke of York!

[Askthepizzaguy]

Well, I repeat my strong suspicions on gnarlycharlie. They have not waned in the slightest.

But, let's see what he has to say.

Meanwhile, working on the assumption he had a helping hand...

Vote: BillMc

I don't appreciate the timing of your vote, or who it ended up helping.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Oh good grief. Photobucket, you bastard. I already deleted 90% of my photos. Work, you stupid SOB.

[ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies]

Who killed Guiri has no bearing on my statement. That he flipped Town has everything to do with my statement. The votes against him were weak ass shit, and I'm pretty sure at least one of them came from a scummer. The trick is, finding the scummer votes in the mix along with the the votes coming from Townies making weak ass shit votes against one of their own, which I'm assuming also took place.

There is no slip, Meeko. Try again. You might get more traction by accusing me of having PIS with respect to Guiri's alignment, but that would be a mistake if you're Town. I just happened to be correct in my parsing of his alignment while he was alive.

[Askthepizzaguy]

It was pretty damned obvious he was townie to anyone who was paying attention.

I have absolutely no special knowledge or perfect information either. He was simply acting like how townies should be acting D1, and how scumbags almost never behave. It's called reading people.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Dizzy, why didn't you bother with a self-save vote yesterday? A town power who has claimed should at least try to live.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Jul 8, 2013 14:46:52 GMT -5 Suburban Plankton said:

Jul 8, 2013 14:27:06 GMT -5 ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies said:

Methinks all of the Guiri voters yesterday just earned themselves the hairy eyeball.

Given that there were two deaths, conventional wisdom says that one was the work of Scum, and the other a Vig/SK. You seem to be assuming that guiri was the Scum kill, else your statement here doesn't make sense. Why make that assumption?

Hmmm...

Decapitation versus buried alive. I would actually think the decapitation would be the work of scum. Buried alive is slightly less violent, something I picture townies doing. If I were to make an assumption.

[dizzymrslizzy]

Damn it, the board ate my post.

Anyway, Pizza...I was thinking about placing a vote on Paranoia, but I didn't for a few reasons.

First and foremost, I thought there was 5 more hours in the day. I thought day ended at 7pm EST, and was shocked to find out that it ended when it did. If I knew that Day ended when it did, I wouldn't have claimed. My move at the time of EOD, was to claim and hope some of the votes on me would move off to someone else. And then when 6pm came about if I was still tied or one off, I could have placed a self preservation vote if needed.

Secondly, I didn't really like the Paranoia case, and wanted to hear more from him before making a decision on him. I didn't think saying Honest twice in one post was worthy of a vote. KWIM?

[Askthepizzaguy]

What does KWIM mean?

[Meeko]

Jul 8, 2013 15:26:21 GMT -5 ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies said:

Who killed Guiri has no bearing on my statement. That he flipped Town has everything to do with my statement. The votes against him were weak ass shit, and I'm pretty sure at least one of them came from a scummer. The trick is, finding the scummer votes in the mix along with the the votes coming from Townies making weak ass shit votes against one of their own, which I'm assuming also took place.

There is no slip, Meeko. Try again. You might get more traction by accusing me of having PIS with respect to Guiri's alignment, but that would be a mistake if you're Town. I just happened to be correct in my parsing of his alignment while he was alive.

And if every single vote on Guiri yesterday was placed by townies, you offing Guiri would feed right into your comments here.

[Meeko]

Jul 8, 2013 16:16:29 GMT -5 Askthepizzaguy said:

What does KWIM mean?

Ask Vern.

[Suburban Plankton]

Jul 8, 2013 16:16:29 GMT -5 Askthepizzaguy said:

What does KWIM mean?

My guess is "Know What I Mean?"

[Askthepizzaguy]

Who did you track last night?

EDIT: Directed at Dizzy, obviously.

[ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies]

Jul 8, 2013 16:17:17 GMT -5 Meeko said:

Jul 8, 2013 15:26:21 GMT -5 ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies said:

Who killed Guiri has no bearing on my statement. That he flipped Town has everything to do with my statement. The votes against him were weak ass shit, and I'm pretty sure at least one of them came from a scummer. The trick is, finding the scummer votes in the mix along with the the votes coming from Townies making weak ass shit votes against one of their own, which I'm assuming also took place.

There is no slip, Meeko. Try again. You might get more traction by accusing me of having PIS with respect to Guiri's alignment, but that would be a mistake if you're Town. I just happened to be correct in my parsing of his alignment while he was alive.

And if every single vote on Guiri yesterday was placed by townies, you offing Guiri would feed right into your comments here.

Is that what you think happened? Only Townies voted for Guiri?

[ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies]

Seriously, Meeko, you need to find a better place to park your vote and take your reactionary blinders off. Your knee-jerk OMGUS reaction to Guiri happening to include you in his early Day 1 multi-vote has been proven to be wrong. Guiri was in fact Town, and despite your not being able to think of any possible way that a Townie could be motivated to vote like that, low and behold, a Townie was motivated to vote like that.

Now today, you're jumping to another knee-jerk OMGUS reaction vote on me because I've stated a desire to go scum-hunting in a pool of people that happens to include you. I didn't even mention you as an individual in that pool, and I honestly think you're just being a wrong-headed Townie if anything. But apparently not only am I apparently a scum suggesting that people consider scum-hunting in the pool of Guiri voters, but actually the entire pool of Guiri voters have actually somehow been cleared as Townies.

Even if it somehow turns out to be true that all of the Guiri voters are Town, there is absolutely zero reason to make that assumption at this point in the game, and certainly not as part of a confirmation biased hypothetical justification to vote for someone else.

[texcat]

Jul 8, 2013 16:14:15 GMT -5 dizzymrslizzy said:

First and foremost, I thought there was 5 more hours in the day. I thought day ended at 7pm EST, and was shocked to find out that it ended when it did. If I knew that Day ended when it did, I wouldn't have claimed. My move at the time of EOD, was to claim and hope some of the votes on me would move off to someone else. And then when 6pm came about if I was still tied or one off, I could have placed a self preservation vote if needed.

LOL. Yeah, reading the EOD after the fact, it looked like a cluster. It appears to me, Dizzy, that you actually claimed after the EOD.

Two deaths. Ugh. If one is a town vig, I urge them to hold their fire until there is a little more to go on. That they did not hold their fire, makes me suspect that we have a SK in our midst.

If scum killed Guiri, I think SilverJan must have been killed by a SK. I didn't see anything that would make a town vig pull the trigger on her.
If scum killed SilverJan, it might be possible for Guiri to have been killed by a town vig. He was in contention for the lynch at one point, and might have looked like a scum escaping the lynch.

Cookies, I don't dispute that the Guiri voters might need to be looked at, but I'd like to see you actually look at them and make a case. Continuing to defend yourself to Meeko is not really helping.

[Jaade]

Jul 8, 2013 15:18:07 GMT -5 Askthepizzaguy said:

Well, I repeat my strong suspicions on gnarlycharlie. They have not waned in the slightest.

But, let's see what he has to say.

Meanwhile, working on the assumption he had a helping hand...

Vote: BillMc

I don't appreciate the timing of your vote, or who it ended up helping.

Just curious, maybe I have missed something. I haven't seen a sample PM posted in this game. Gnarly posted his and it included that he was part of the team "Duke of York". Both people who died last night were on that same Town team. If he ISN'T, how would he know to use that term? If I'm wrong, please tell me.

[Mahaloth]

Jul 8, 2013 18:28:38 GMT -5 ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies said:

Seriously, Meeko, you need to find a better place to park your vote and take your reactionary blinders off. Your knee-jerk OMGUS reaction ....

Dude, chill.

And I'm re-placing my vote for Pleonast. His weird move(claim??) on Day One bothers me, and while I guess it is not supposed to indicate scuminess or not, I am getting a strong feeling on it.

<vote>Vote Pleo
</vote>

[Askthepizzaguy]

Jul 8, 2013 19:22:31 GMT -5 Jaade said:

Jul 8, 2013 15:18:07 GMT -5 Askthepizzaguy said:

Well, I repeat my strong suspicions on gnarlycharlie. They have not waned in the slightest.

But, let's see what he has to say.

Meanwhile, working on the assumption he had a helping hand...

Vote: BillMc

I don't appreciate the timing of your vote, or who it ended up helping.

Just curious, maybe I have missed something. I haven't seen a sample PM posted in this game. Gnarly posted his and it included that he was part of the team "Duke of York". Both people who died last night were on that same Town team. If he ISN'T, how would he know to use that term? If I'm wrong, please tell me.

There is a sample PM posted in one of the other threads, easily obtainable to all.

Jaade, I realize he claimed detective, but scum do that under pressure. Please don't mark him off as the "known" town detective just yet. I still have reasons to be skeptical of his claim.

[texcat]

Sample PM here.

[ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies]

Meeko in the game with the rest of us, employing a dubious strategy with dubious logic. Seems like a perfectly viable topic of conversation. There's no personal attacks, and I'd say the same thing to anyone else and expect to be called on it myself if I were the one playing that way. What's the problem? We can call each other liars but illogical or stubborn is going too far?

Dizzy owes us a Watching target at this point, and as someone already pointed out, a Watcher claim from a Scum wouldn't necessarily be a lie, so her claim doesn't do much toward diminishing my Day 1 suspicions. Then there is Suburban who has gone after two known Town in his voting record at this point. Colby, I don't have much of a read on at all.

Your turn, Texcat. Jump in with your scum-hunting strategy any time.

[Jaade]

Thanks, y'all. My bad. I had forgotten about that.

[Mahaloth]

Uh, I assume my vote counts. I was trying to do the vote with the button thingy.

In case:

Vote Pleonast