Parzival
Mome Rath
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Day One
Nov 20, 2007 11:50:01 GMT -5
Post by Parzival on Nov 20, 2007 11:50:01 GMT -5
You know, I was almost going to vote for you, NAF. But then I noticed something you said a little while ago, "I want to be present at my demise" (when you were going to be away). This led me to believe that you were hinting at a a power role claim, so I decided not to vote.
Now we got a role claim. It's an interesting role, potentially testable but on the other hand testing it would probably get you night-killed. Considering that recruitment is off the table, we can rule out that you can turn good to bad (unless Story's a bastard and doesn't consider this 'recruitment' - but I believe he said, "no mechanism by which a player can change alignment"). So I'm inclined to not lynch the claim, especially since you may become a scum target now.
Just a few questions :
Do you have a choice on whether to bring people back once you've got your sample? (Say you sample X, who we lynch and turns out to be a human anti-town player.) Would you then destroy the sample, or are they coming back for sure?
Can you replicate a replicant?
Also, I don't really like Kat's reasoning for voting for zuma - it seems partially just that he annoyed her, so I'm going to
vote Kat
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Santo Rugger
Mome Rath
The Obviously Innocent Townie
The Rugger formerly known as Pygmy[on:BYAHH!][of:BYAHH?]
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Day One
Nov 20, 2007 11:52:13 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Nov 20, 2007 11:52:13 GMT -5
Damn it. At first, this role sounded a lot like the Necro in Conspiracy. Now it sounds like a recruitment tool for the Replicants.
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Santo Rugger
Mome Rath
The Obviously Innocent Townie
The Rugger formerly known as Pygmy[on:BYAHH!][of:BYAHH?]
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Day One
Nov 20, 2007 11:53:02 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Nov 20, 2007 11:53:02 GMT -5
But story specifically said there was no recruitment, so I don't know what to make of it. I'm willing to give him a pass for a few Days.
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Day One
Nov 20, 2007 11:54:07 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Nov 20, 2007 11:54:07 GMT -5
Great. Is it just me, or have both of these claims seemed a bit premature? Pleo is going to be away, so I have been trying to give him slack on that matter, but now this... Day 1 was hugely beneficial to the scum in the FF game. So much useful information came out of all of those claims. Now we have an allegedly regenerative power hanging out exposed. Have we all lost our thick skins when it comes to prolonging the need for a claim? I'm sorry Cookies, would you have rather I waited until LESS then 24 hours before the end of the Day? I am trying to keep from getting vigged as well. I think this is a role that could really help the town a lot, but it does no good if I am dead. ALSO It has been my opinion for a while that holding onto information is sometimes not best for the town. I know information because of my role that may put a piece of the puzzle together for us. Replicants are resistant to Night Kills. This is important, but I couldn't figure out how to say it without claiming.
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Day One
Nov 20, 2007 12:00:48 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Nov 20, 2007 12:00:48 GMT -5
Just a few questions : Do you have a choice on whether to bring people back once you've got your sample? (Say you sample X, who we lynch and turns out to be a human anti-town player.) Would you then destroy the sample, or are they coming back for sure? I chose when/if they come back. But I can only do it once in the game. Can you replicate a replicant? I am not sure, I will ask story. I did ask what happens if I try to sample a replicant, and he said that they are made with human tissue, so I can get a sample.
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Santo Rugger
Mome Rath
The Obviously Innocent Townie
The Rugger formerly known as Pygmy[on:BYAHH!][of:BYAHH?]
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Day One
Nov 20, 2007 12:05:00 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Nov 20, 2007 12:05:00 GMT -5
<snip> It has been my opinion for a while that holding onto information is sometimes not best for the town. I know information because of my role that may put a piece of the puzzle together for us. Replicants are resistant to Night Kills. This is important, but I couldn't figure out how to say it without claiming. Flag!If you know Replicants are resistant to Night kills, why would you assume we had a Vig?
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Day One
Nov 20, 2007 12:05:19 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Nov 20, 2007 12:05:19 GMT -5
Is there a trade-off price for regeneration? story has already gone on record that there is no recruiting in this game, so I'm going to assume that the trade-off isn't the introduction of the regenerated replicant ever going rogue...right?
If you bring back a vanilla townie, do you in a sense create a new power role where there was not one previously? I.e. a previously vanilla townie who now has a chance of surviving a night kill?
If you bring back a power role, will they have any weakness or handicap applied to what they were capable of when alive?
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Day One
Nov 20, 2007 12:06:34 GMT -5
Post by Boozahol Squid, P.I. on Nov 20, 2007 12:06:34 GMT -5
:sigh: ok, I am tied in the lead to get fried, which means that if there is a vig out there I will probably be NK'd even if I don't get lynched. I guess it's time for a role claim. I was hoping to put this off for a few Days, but it looks like I overplayed my hand. I AM THE CREATOR Why roleclaim now? You're not in the lead? Why roleclaim such a ridiculous role? Meh. I still am up for lynching zuma today, but you've just put yourself on my list for toMorrow.
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Day One
Nov 20, 2007 12:06:49 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Nov 20, 2007 12:06:49 GMT -5
<snip> It has been my opinion for a while that holding onto information is sometimes not best for the town. I know information because of my role that may put a piece of the puzzle together for us. Replicants are resistant to Night Kills. This is important, but I couldn't figure out how to say it without claiming. Flag!If you know Replicants are resistant to Night kills, why would you assume we had a Vig? Resistant != immune. Story confirmed this for me. I assume we have a vig because we have always had a vig. It is a safe assumption until it has been shown otherwise.
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Santo Rugger
Mome Rath
The Obviously Innocent Townie
The Rugger formerly known as Pygmy[on:BYAHH!][of:BYAHH?]
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Day One
Nov 20, 2007 12:10:58 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Nov 20, 2007 12:10:58 GMT -5
Resistant = ?
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Day One
Nov 20, 2007 12:11:47 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Nov 20, 2007 12:11:47 GMT -5
Is there a trade-off price for regeneration? story has already gone on record that there is no recruiting in this game, so I'm going to assume that the trade-off isn't the introduction of the regenerated replicant ever going rogue...right? If you bring back a vanilla townie, do you in a sense create a new power role where there was not one previously? I.e. a previously vanilla townie who now has a chance of surviving a night kill? If you bring back a power role, will they have any weakness or handicap applied to what they were capable of when alive? There is a trade off, but I don't want to say what it is right yet. It is the one thing about my role that the scum could use to their advantage, but only if they know about it. If I bring back a vanilla they will be resistant to Night Kills. If I bring back a power role they will be exactly as they were before their death. Dio, I claimed my role because I was tied for the #1 spot, and frankly I anticipated people backing off zuma's lynch because it is a fucking stupid lynch. Sorry you think my role is ridiculous. I play the hand I have been delt. FWIW I thought the role was awesome when I was given it.
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Day One
Nov 20, 2007 12:12:59 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Nov 20, 2007 12:12:59 GMT -5
PAGE 14 VOTE COUNT (updated to reflect Diomedes vote below)
zuma (5) - Death by Irony, episodeofblonde, Cookies, Kat, Yattara NAF1138 (5) - Hal Briston, drainbead, sinjin, Roosh, Diomedes Pleonast (4) - hockey monkey, kassia, Santo Rugger, diggitcamara zeriel (3) - CatinaSuit, Captain Klutz, mhaye mhaye (2) - atarus, zeriel Kat (2) - Pleonast, Parzival kassia (1) - zuma Parzival (1) - NAF1138
23 votes have been cast; Day to end in approximately 29 hours.
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Day One
Nov 20, 2007 12:13:05 GMT -5
Post by Boozahol Squid, P.I. on Nov 20, 2007 12:13:05 GMT -5
Resistance? Man, combined with Pleo's role claim, one of the two of you guys has to be lying. I don't buy including a 'Soldier' Role that is a delayed Vig with only a partial chance ofactually performing their night kill. One of the two of you is a skin-job. unvote:zuma vote:NAF1138
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Day One
Nov 20, 2007 12:14:19 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Nov 20, 2007 12:14:19 GMT -5
It equals resistant. They are hard to Night kill I suppose. I don't know more then that. I was told that my replicants would have the standard resistance to Night Kills. That is all I know. It is just a puzzle pice, nothing more.
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Day One
Nov 20, 2007 12:14:27 GMT -5
Post by diggitcamara on Nov 20, 2007 12:14:27 GMT -5
:sigh: (snip) I am a pro town power role and win when all rouge replicants are dead. And rouge is an important modifier because I was instrumental in developing the replicant technology. I have two basic powers. I can take a sample once per Day of any player in the game, and then if they die, I can bring them back to life within three Days of when the sample was taken. These resurected people will be replicants created with a new more stable technology and will retain all the memories of their previous life. Also, they will be resistant to night kills...like all replicants are. Replicants are resistant to night kills. Just something to think about. I was trying to be just suspicious enough that I wouldn't get myself killed by the replicants at night, but it looks like I overdid it. Sorry about that. So, you're saying that Pleonast's power isn't just probably anti-town but definitely anti-town?
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Santo Rugger
Mome Rath
The Obviously Innocent Townie
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Day One
Nov 20, 2007 12:14:38 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Nov 20, 2007 12:14:38 GMT -5
Resistance? Man, combined with Pleo's role claim, one of the two of you guys has to be lying. I don't buy including a 'Soldier' Role that is a delayed Vig with only a partial chance ofactually performing their night kill. One of the two of you is a skin-job. [colorRed]unvote:zuma [/color] [colorBlue]vote:NAF1138[/color][/quote] Slow down, buddy. Remember how I tried to pair people in Firefly?
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Day One
Nov 20, 2007 12:15:13 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Nov 20, 2007 12:15:13 GMT -5
Resistance? Man, combined with Pleo's role claim, one of the two of you guys has to be lying. I don't buy including a 'Soldier' Role that is a delayed Vig with only a partial chance ofactually performing their night kill. One of the two of you is a skin-job. unvote:zumavote:NAF1138Dio, how does that make any sense?
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Day One
Nov 20, 2007 12:17:21 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Nov 20, 2007 12:17:21 GMT -5
:sigh: (snip) I am a pro town power role and win when all rouge replicants are dead. And rouge is an important modifier because I was instrumental in developing the replicant technology. I have two basic powers. I can take a sample once per Day of any player in the game, and then if they die, I can bring them back to life within three Days of when the sample was taken. These resurected people will be replicants created with a new more stable technology and will retain all the memories of their previous life. Also, they will be resistant to night kills...like all replicants are. Replicants are resistant to night kills. Just something to think about. I was trying to be just suspicious enough that I wouldn't get myself killed by the replicants at night, but it looks like I overdid it. Sorry about that. So, you're saying that Pleonast's power isn't just probably anti-town but definitely anti-town? You know, I hadn't thought of it like that. unvote parzivalvote pleo
Sorry about my last post Dio.
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Santo Rugger
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Day One
Nov 20, 2007 12:18:03 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Nov 20, 2007 12:18:03 GMT -5
It equals resistant. They are hard to Night kill I suppose. I don't know more then that. I was told that my replicants would have the standard resistance to Night Kills. That is all I know. It is just a puzzle pice, nothing more. Bolding mine. You said you could only produce one replicant? *sigh* I don't like this one bit.
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Day One
Nov 20, 2007 12:19:31 GMT -5
Post by Boozahol Squid, P.I. on Nov 20, 2007 12:19:31 GMT -5
Dio, how does that make any sense? On preview: Yeah. so if I'm wrong, and you're the pro-town role, I'm sorry. Both roles seem pretty outlandish from where I'm sitting.
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Day One
Nov 20, 2007 12:19:32 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Nov 20, 2007 12:19:32 GMT -5
It equals resistant. They are hard to Night kill I suppose. I don't know more then that. I was told that my replicants would have the standard resistance to Night Kills. That is all I know. It is just a puzzle pice, nothing more. Bolding mine. You said you could only produce one replicant? *sigh* I don't like this one bit. I can, but they are based on the existing replicant technology. I just only have enough equipment left to make one more. If you want I can go into the whole color, but it was a long PM and will be hard not to directly quote.
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Santo Rugger
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Day One
Nov 20, 2007 12:19:34 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Nov 20, 2007 12:19:34 GMT -5
story, can you underline "replicants" in the quote above, I forgot bold doesn't work in a quote.
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Day One
Nov 20, 2007 12:21:20 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Nov 20, 2007 12:21:20 GMT -5
Bolding mine. You said you could only produce one replicant? *sigh* I don't like this one bit. I can, but they are based on the existing replicant technology. I just only have enough equipment left to make one more. If you want I can go into the whole color, but it was a long PM and will be hard not to directly quote. So, you're saying you're talking in character enough to refer to the entire Replicant army, if you will, as "your" replicants?
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Day One
Nov 20, 2007 12:22:21 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Nov 20, 2007 12:22:21 GMT -5
What the hell. Let me type of a post and PM story to let me know if it is kosher, then I will post a rough equivelant of my color PM.
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Santo Rugger
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Day One
Nov 20, 2007 12:30:09 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Nov 20, 2007 12:30:09 GMT -5
What the hell. Let me type of a post and PM story to let me know if it is kosher, then I will post a rough equivelant of my color PM. Is that really necessary?
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Day One
Nov 20, 2007 12:33:27 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Nov 20, 2007 12:33:27 GMT -5
What the hell. Let me type of a post and PM story to let me know if it is kosher, then I will post a rough equivelant of my color PM. Is that really necessary? Guess not. But I seem to be answering the questions in a way that is only raising more questions. I figured this might help.
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Day One
Nov 20, 2007 12:34:21 GMT -5
Post by Boozahol Squid, P.I. on Nov 20, 2007 12:34:21 GMT -5
The only thing story said was traif was posting your role pm. Make up Paraphrase as you will.
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Day One
Nov 20, 2007 12:34:38 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Nov 20, 2007 12:34:38 GMT -5
I can, but they are based on the existing replicant technology. I just only have enough equipment left to make one more. If you want I can go into the whole color, but it was a long PM and will be hard not to directly quote. So, you're saying you're talking in character enough to refer to the entire Replicant army, if you will, as "your" replicants? No, what I am saying is I was reading my role PM while I was typing that and that is the phrase that story used.
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Day One
Nov 20, 2007 12:37:20 GMT -5
Post by Pollux Oil on Nov 20, 2007 12:37:20 GMT -5
:sigh: (snip) I am a pro town power role and win when all rouge replicants are dead. And rouge is an important modifier because I was instrumental in developing the replicant technology. I have two basic powers. I can take a sample once per Day of any player in the game, and then if they die, I can bring them back to life within three Days of when the sample was taken. These resurected people will be replicants created with a new more stable technology and will retain all the memories of their previous life. Also, they will be resistant to night kills...like all replicants are. Replicants are resistant to night kills. Just something to think about. I was trying to be just suspicious enough that I wouldn't get myself killed by the replicants at night, but it looks like I overdid it. Sorry about that. So, you're saying that Pleonast's power isn't just probably anti-town but definitely anti-town? Can anyone explain to me the line of reasoning behind this? I read and re-read it and I'm not following.
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Day One
Nov 20, 2007 12:38:17 GMT -5
Post by Drain Bead on Nov 20, 2007 12:38:17 GMT -5
unvote NAF, reluctantly. I tried to spin what I said in the last game so that during my roleclaim I could point to breadcrumbs, and this feels a lot like that. But this role seems much more useful to us...I dunno and I am busy at work and may not have time to get back in a while. Going to refrain from voting until I see how this develops a bit more.
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