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Day One
Nov 21, 2007 13:47:30 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Nov 21, 2007 13:47:30 GMT -5
Well, yes and no. The reprieves I refer to at least lasted a Night. Does it count as a reprieve if it roller-coasters back to a bandwagon within the same Day? I would say no. Fair point, but at the time of writing NAF has only one vote on him, down from a high point of 5 around post D1.445. Are you mixing him and Pleo up? Votes for Pleo have had more resiliency, especially after NAF's roleclaim. And fair point back to you. Pleo is also not experiencing the historical reprieve. However, being wrong and lynching a Pleo the bombing Colonist is less of a "bad thing" than being wrong and lynching a NAF the resurrecting Creator, imho.
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Day One
Nov 21, 2007 13:51:12 GMT -5
Post by Pollux Oil on Nov 21, 2007 13:51:12 GMT -5
You are correct, and sorry atarus for the mis-attribution. Please substitute NAF for atarus in my post. Is not a problem. What strikes me as odd was how quickly Roosh jumped on and FOSed you just by referencing my "plan", 'cause my first reaction was "I don't think she's referring to the right person here," not "yay she agrees with me." And atarus, were you seriously accusing me of trying to keep recruitment alive? When I actually quoted the opening line myself, in response to Roosh's apparent (real or feigned) ignorance? I was the one who said "bastard", and I meant that - story would have to be lying to his players for it to be the case. I guess I hoped it was obvious enough that I really don't think it's the case. Eh. I wasn't really accusing a specific person and it wasn't a real FOS, more like a hairy eyeball. After Roosh said his little thing about recruitment, my brain was like "Hey, okay, several people have now made references to maybe there is a recruitment if story was a bastard mod" and so without looking back on the context of the other quotes, I just went off. If I had looked back and re-read the context of the other quotes, I would have probably picked up that it was meant to be tongue-in-cheek. So in short, no it wasn't an accusation against you personally, it was more just a blanket statement that I think mentioning recruitment at all as a serious possibility is dumb and anti-town.
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Day One
Nov 21, 2007 13:52:20 GMT -5
Post by episodeofblonde on Nov 21, 2007 13:52:20 GMT -5
The case against zuma is not the drunkenness so much. Altho that could be a cover for random disruptive behaviour. I was pinged by the hyperaggressive way he responded when people called him out on it, especially his calling out people for 'accountability'. In the circumstances, I thought it was an odd way of acting. But in my opinion it can wait for another day. Since the pressure has been off him somewhat he's posted a few times and has seemed to be trying to contribute.
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Day One
Nov 21, 2007 14:22:02 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Nov 21, 2007 14:22:02 GMT -5
PAGE 18 VOTE COUNT
Pleonast (5) - kassia, Santo Rugger, diggitcamara, Roosh, Diomedes zuma (5) - Cookies, Kat, Yattara, zeriel, Death by Irony CatinaSuit (4) - NAF1138, drainbead, hockey monkey, episodeofblonde zeriel (3) - CatinaSuit, Captain Klutz, mhaye Kat (2) - Pleonast, Parzival NAF1138 (1) - Hal Briston mhaye (1) - atarus kassia (1) - zuma
22 votes have been cast; The Day will end in approximately 2 and a half hours, at 5:00PM EST. I'm leaving work now (they're letting us go early; I don't anticipate getting home until around 4:30PM my time, which means you'll be on your own for the fine points of vote counts until then).
Looks like the outcome of toDay is still very much in doubt. I kind of can't wait to get home and find out what you've all decided. Good luck!
IF THERE IS A TIE: Voting and strategy discussion freezes at 5:00PM. Santo Rugger will break the tie with his choice of either candidate, or a no-lynch. Once he does, we move directly into Night.
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Day One
Nov 21, 2007 14:37:48 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Nov 21, 2007 14:37:48 GMT -5
No offense, Santo but considering the mish-mash of alleged justifications for placing you as Gov, I am not very keen on you deciding our fates with a tie...
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Day One
Nov 21, 2007 15:12:56 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Nov 21, 2007 15:12:56 GMT -5
I don't know if we have enough time for this, but it seems fairer all around if Santo unvoted, considering that his vote is currently contributing to the tie that he would be called upon to break. I assume that if we move to the end of the Day with the current vote-count, that Santo will send Pleo to the gallows, or he would've already changed his vote.
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Day One
Nov 21, 2007 15:21:45 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Nov 21, 2007 15:21:45 GMT -5
I don't know if we have enough time for this, but it seems fairer all around if Santo unvoted, considering that his vote is currently contributing to the tie that he would be called upon to break. I assume that if we move to the end of the Day with the current vote-count, that Santo will send Pleo to the gallows, or he would've already changed his vote. Rugger, I would very much like to hear from you also. At least some thoughts. Who are the three people who haven't voted?
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Day One
Nov 21, 2007 15:25:21 GMT -5
Post by Drain Bead on Nov 21, 2007 15:25:21 GMT -5
I don't know if we have enough time for this, but it seems fairer all around if Santo unvoted, considering that his vote is currently contributing to the tie that he would be called upon to break. I assume that if we move to the end of the Day with the current vote-count, that Santo will send Pleo to the gallows, or he would've already changed his vote. So instead of waiting until the deadline and breaking the tie in favor of the person he's currently voting for, you would suggest that he break the tie by unvoting the person that he's voting for, thus frying the person he's NOT voting for. Not to mention pushing another last minute roleclaim. FOS Cookies
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Day One
Nov 21, 2007 15:35:17 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Nov 21, 2007 15:35:17 GMT -5
I don't know if we have enough time for this, but it seems fairer all around if Santo unvoted, considering that his vote is currently contributing to the tie that he would be called upon to break. I assume that if we move to the end of the Day with the current vote-count, that Santo will send Pleo to the gallows, or he would've already changed his vote. So instead of waiting until the deadline and breaking the tie in favor of the person he's currently voting for, you would suggest that he break the tie by unvoting the person that he's voting for, thus frying the person he's NOT voting for. Not to mention pushing another last minute roleclaim. FOS CookiesOk drain, not that I don't get where you are comming from...but WTF? I understand Cookies thinking that Rugger getting to vote twice is unfair. It is unfair. But that is the way the game was designed, so we live with it. Thinking it is unfair, is not in and of itself scummy. Take it down a notch drain.
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Day One
Nov 21, 2007 15:37:48 GMT -5
Post by episodeofblonde on Nov 21, 2007 15:37:48 GMT -5
Who are the three people who haven't voted? Looks like BlaM, Hazel, and diggitcamara, two no-shows and one requesting a sub-out. Drainbead, what role claim is Cookies pushing? I've missed that...
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Day One
Nov 21, 2007 15:40:32 GMT -5
Post by kassia on Nov 21, 2007 15:40:32 GMT -5
Who are the three people who haven't voted? Looks like BlaM, Hazel, and diggitcamara, two no-shows and one requesting a sub-out. Actually, diggitcamara has a vote in. Sinjin hasn't revoted since she unvoted earlier today.
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Day One
Nov 21, 2007 15:45:15 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Nov 21, 2007 15:45:15 GMT -5
I don't know if we have enough time for this, but it seems fairer all around if Santo unvoted, considering that his vote is currently contributing to the tie that he would be called upon to break. I assume that if we move to the end of the Day with the current vote-count, that Santo will send Pleo to the gallows, or he would've already changed his vote. So instead of waiting until the deadline and breaking the tie in favor of the person he's currently voting for, you would suggest that he break the tie by unvoting the person that he's voting for, thus frying the person he's NOT voting for. Not to mention pushing another last minute roleclaim. FOS CookiesPerhaps you missed the first sentence in my statement, "I don't know if we have enough time for this..." The tie has been building and moving around a lot. Regardless of where Santos' vote is, or where my vote is, having Santos contribute to a tie that he is then empowered to break is less than ideal in this situation. If you choose to think that my motive with my proposal was to advance zuma's lynch or force a claim, it is your prerogative to be mistaken. I don't think there's much we can do Today to get to a more idea situation. Something to consider for the next Governership, however.
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Day One
Nov 21, 2007 15:50:31 GMT -5
Post by episodeofblonde on Nov 21, 2007 15:50:31 GMT -5
Looks like BlaM, Hazel, and diggitcamara, two no-shows and one requesting a sub-out. Actually, diggitcamara has a vote in. Sinjin hasn't revoted since she unvoted earlier today. Whoops, yes, you're right.
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Day One
Nov 21, 2007 15:54:28 GMT -5
Post by sinjin on Nov 21, 2007 15:54:28 GMT -5
Well that took a long time, I'm not really certain this is the best thing to do but here we go:
vote zuma
I really hated the pouncing third vote thing when the top three votees were tied at two votes apiece. It just seemed so opportunistic especially due to his previous calls for player accountability via voting. It's like he was just looking for an excuse to lay a vote.
I'm not voting for Pleo ToDay because if his claimed ability to night kill a replicant is true he could really help us, especially if NAF's claim that replicants are resistant to night kills. If his claim is true and if he can be sure of his target. Damn there are way too many if's in this paragraph.
Bites the bullet, hits enter......
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Day One
Nov 21, 2007 16:09:25 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Nov 21, 2007 16:09:25 GMT -5
Well since story is looking for a replacement for Hazel and BlaM hasn't posted to the game at all...
story: wanna see if BlaM is still playing? Maybe sub him out?
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Day One
Nov 21, 2007 16:46:08 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Nov 21, 2007 16:46:08 GMT -5
Fifteen minutes until the deadline. I'm sure you can all figure out the vote count at this point.
NAF - I'm on it. I'm going to wait until the beginning of Day 2 to sort out the substitution situation, but I'll make sure we have a full complement of players by then.
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Santo Rugger
Mome Rath
The Obviously Innocent Townie
The Rugger formerly known as Pygmy[on:BYAHH!][of:BYAHH?]
Posts: 3
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Day One
Nov 21, 2007 16:56:03 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Nov 21, 2007 16:56:03 GMT -5
HUGE FoS to Cookies for saying that instead of having one and a half votes, I should get neither.
Very curious as to her defending of her demanding of me to remove my vote, which, in essence was also asking everybody else on Pleo to remove their votes as well.
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Day One
Nov 21, 2007 16:57:28 GMT -5
Post by Boozahol Squid, P.I. on Nov 21, 2007 16:57:28 GMT -5
Ditto on that, Pygmy.
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Santo Rugger
Mome Rath
The Obviously Innocent Townie
The Rugger formerly known as Pygmy[on:BYAHH!][of:BYAHH?]
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Day One
Nov 21, 2007 16:58:17 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Nov 21, 2007 16:58:17 GMT -5
Something to consider for the next Governership, however. Remember this if I die toNight.
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Day One
Nov 21, 2007 17:01:49 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Nov 21, 2007 17:01:49 GMT -5
...and the voting is closed. The Dusk will occur shortly.
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Day One
Nov 21, 2007 17:07:13 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Nov 21, 2007 17:07:13 GMT -5
No, no, and no. I never said you should not have any vote. I never said that anyone else should unvote Pleo.
Ideally, a Gov should not participate in creating a tie since s/he is the one who breaks any tie. That is what I was saying, and that is all I was saying. Where anyone's vote was at the time that I made my statement doesn't impact that observation. Even though saying what I said when I said it provided opportunities to smear me that have been picked up, I felt it needed to be said.
Does anyone besides drain and Santo want to put words in my mouth?
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Day One
Nov 21, 2007 17:09:54 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Nov 21, 2007 17:09:54 GMT -5
Bah...I previewed but did not see the closing post. Grr
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Day One
Nov 21, 2007 17:12:30 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Nov 21, 2007 17:12:30 GMT -5
Bah...I previewed but did not see the closing post. Grr Only voting is closed. We are never forced to stop talking in this game. FWIW (and I don't know if you want me as one of your supporters) I think it is awefully suspicious that both drain and pygmy have come down on you right there for saying something you didn't say. (I am a tad sensitive to that particular issue)
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Day One
Nov 21, 2007 17:22:09 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Nov 21, 2007 17:22:09 GMT -5
Something to consider for the next Governership, however. Remember this if I die toNight. I prefer if it is remembered if you survive the Night as well. I don't know how to best address the issue. Trying to keep the Gov out of ties with the honor system seems the best approach, but would assume and require that the person holding the post has honor available.
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