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Post by RoOsh on Jun 11, 2008 20:54:22 GMT -5
HawkeyeOp. I'm sorry. I'm reading over my posts and my tone feels to be coming across as extremely hostile. I think it's because I actually am QUITE mad right now. Which is a sign of TOO much Mafia on the brain. So I apologize for cursing that much, and I'm sorry about the tone of my posts. But I really am upset. I think i need to walk away and try to come back with a cooler head. I still feel your vote was unjustified and poorly reasoned. But I'm also still kinda shaking. So. I'm going to go browse the Dope for a while. Then maybe may a game with my siblings. Anything but Mafia. I shall return though by the wee hours of the Night/early tomorrow. and hopefully I can present a more calmer reaction and objection to your reasoning. But I'm sorry. I wish you no ill will. And I'm sorry for being so hostile, that's not my style, nor do i really wish it to be associated with me. So I'm just going to walk away. But I do not consider you a bad player or anything like that as i may have intoned. I think i just got caught up. It's just a game. Sorry. ~Roosh
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Post by Hawkmod on Jun 11, 2008 21:17:54 GMT -5
HawkeyeOp. I'm sorry. I'm reading over my posts and my tone feels to be coming across as extremely hostile. I think it's because I actually am QUITE mad right now. Which is a sign of TOO much Mafia on the brain. So I apologize for cursing that much, and I'm sorry about the tone of my posts. But I really am upset. I think i need to walk away and try to come back with a cooler head. I still feel your vote was unjustified and poorly reasoned. But I'm also still kinda shaking. So. I'm going to go browse the Dope for a while. Then maybe may a game with my siblings. Anything but Mafia. I shall return though by the wee hours of the Night/early tomorrow. and hopefully I can present a more calmer reaction and objection to your reasoning. But I'm sorry. I wish you no ill will. And I'm sorry for being so hostile, that's not my style, nor do i really wish it to be associated with me. So I'm just going to walk away. But I do not consider you a bad player or anything like that as i may have intoned. I think i just got caught up. It's just a game. Sorry. ~Roosh Okay, so I clicked on page 10 first and got this post. Now to go back to page nine..
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Post by Hawkmod on Jun 11, 2008 22:05:09 GMT -5
Just 7 fucks? Awn I was hoping to reach double digits.
I'll give you a more thorough response tomorrow.
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Post by Darth Sensitive on Jun 12, 2008 0:34:46 GMT -5
I'm glad that someone went back and looked over when exactly FCoD ceased to be a viable lynch candidate. Over the Night, I wanted to do so if it was still an issue.
Finished catching up after an unscheduled double shift. I have time in the morning - I'll try to get some rereading done in the morning and get a vote in before I go to work.
With that said, I'm beat. Let's get cracking ya'll.
Breadcrumbs. I haven't really been picking up any from anyone other than Hal. Has anyone else seen some that have been Left behind?
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Post by Rysto on Jun 12, 2008 9:29:53 GMT -5
Unvote Nanook Vote Czech
We have more people not voting than voting with less than 12 hours to go before the deadline. We have to start holding the lurkers accountable, and I'm starting with the guy who has never voted and has a total of 6 posts over the last 2 game Days.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Jun 12, 2008 9:50:15 GMT -5
I just... have no idea where to go at this point. We have so little time left. I'm going to go get a cup of tea, finish up a few work-related e-mails, and settle in for an hour or so of re-reading. Hopefully I can get a handle on something at that point.
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Post by Merestil Haye on Jun 12, 2008 9:58:38 GMT -5
Unvote Nanook Vote CzechWe have more people not voting than voting with less than 12 hours to go before the deadline. We have to start holding the lurkers accountable, and I'm starting with the guy who has never voted and has a total of 6 posts over the last 2 game Days. To be fair, he did place a vote on Day 1 - he voted for Hal, but unvoted not long afterwards (in terms of post number). At this point, I'm going to leave him be. There's only 9 hours left Today; if he doesn't post in that time he'll be modkilled (or possibly subbed). At this point though, I'm reminded (a little) of TDPats action when he drew scrutiny in Arkham - dive for cover and not post at all for days. So maybe you're on to something here.
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Post by NAF1138 on Jun 12, 2008 10:31:27 GMT -5
Hey all, the saga of my car should finally be taken care of today! I won't be around for another several hours while I take care of the last of the paperwork, but I will hopefully be back before the end of the Day. (If I am not it is because I have gotten so frustrated with California's buracracy that I have thrown myself head first into a wall at the DMV).
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Post by Hockey Monkey! on Jun 12, 2008 10:53:03 GMT -5
Rysto, I quite agree that the lurking issue needs to be addressed. Czech has been conspicuously absent, and since I have no read on him whatsoever, I don't know if it's scummy lurking or just forgot that he was playing, or has computer issues. It's frustrating for sure. I'm frustrated with Blam too, and it's definitely not like him to be absent from a game. This comment is concerning me though: Bolding mine. I'm glad that someone went back and looked over when exactly FCoD ceased to be a viable lynch candidate. Over the Night, I wanted to do so if it was still an issue. Finished catching up after an unscheduled double shift. I have time in the morning - I'll try to get some rereading done in the morning and get a vote in before I go to work. With that said, I'm beat. Let's get cracking ya'll. Breadcrumbs. I haven't really been picking up any from anyone other than Hal. Has anyone else seen some that have been Left behind? Darth are you seriously combing through posts and looking for breadcrumbs? That's something it seems to me only scum would do. I know, I know, you have the same footwear issue as Hal did...or do you? Maybe you just had some additional information that you could exploit to get semi-confirmed. I'm really really tempted to vote for you right now. I think it's very odd that you don't seem to be concerned for your welfare when Hal seemed to think your footwear issue was more pressing than his. Fuck it, I'll take my lumps. vote Darth Sensitive[/color]
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Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 12, 2008 11:01:59 GMT -5
Darth are you seriously combing through posts and looking for breadcrumbs? That's something it seems to me only scum would do. I know, I know, you have the same footwear issue as Hal did...or do you? Maybe you just had some additional information that you could exploit to get semi-confirmed. I'm really really tempted to vote for you right now. I think it's very odd that you don't seem to be concerned for your welfare when Hal seemed to think your footwear issue was more pressing than his. Fuck it, I'll take my lumps. vote Darth Sensitive Well, this is enough to convince me to lynch you. Darth Sensitive, although not "confirmed", is likely who he says he is. Back on page two of Day one, he explained everything about d2mons that we now know to be fact. Cite. Seems to me that he wouldn't know all of this information if he wasn't possessed like he said he is. He even reached out to anyone that could help him in that post I cited, so to me, your vote seems EXTREMELY scummy. Combine that with the case others have put forth and I'm very comfortable with lynching you. Unvote tdpatriots.Vote hockeymonkey.--FCOD
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Post by bufftabby on Jun 12, 2008 11:02:39 GMT -5
This comment is concerning me though: Bolding mine. I'm glad that someone went back and looked over when exactly FCoD ceased to be a viable lynch candidate. Over the Night, I wanted to do so if it was still an issue. Finished catching up after an unscheduled double shift. I have time in the morning - I'll try to get some rereading done in the morning and get a vote in before I go to work. With that said, I'm beat. Let's get cracking ya'll. Breadcrumbs. I haven't really been picking up any from anyone other than Hal. Has anyone else seen some that have been Left behind? Darth are you seriously combing through posts and looking for breadcrumbs? That's something it seems to me only scum would do. I know, I know, you have the same footwear issue as Hal did...or do you? Maybe you just had some additional information that you could exploit to get semi-confirmed. I'm really really tempted to vote for you right now. I think it's very odd that you don't seem to be concerned for your welfare when Hal seemed to think your footwear issue was more pressing than his. Fuck it, I'll take my lumps. vote Darth SensitiveI noticed this too, last night right before bed, but I was too tired to put together any coherent thoughts. I think this comes off as extremely scummy. At the same time, I can't help but feel that it's almost so scummy that no scum would do that. I guess I'm willing to put it to the test: unvote Hockey Monkey(for now...I'm still quite leery of you, ma'am) vote Darth Sensitive[/color]
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Post by Hockey Monkey! on Jun 12, 2008 11:08:14 GMT -5
Darth are you seriously combing through posts and looking for breadcrumbs? That's something it seems to me only scum would do. I know, I know, you have the same footwear issue as Hal did...or do you? Maybe you just had some additional information that you could exploit to get semi-confirmed. I'm really really tempted to vote for you right now. I think it's very odd that you don't seem to be concerned for your welfare when Hal seemed to think your footwear issue was more pressing than his. Fuck it, I'll take my lumps. vote Darth Sensitive Well, this is enough to convince me to lynch you. Darth Sensitive, although not "confirmed", is likely who he says he is. Back on page two of Day one, he explained everything about d2mons that we now know to be fact. Cite. Seems to me that he wouldn't know all of this information if he wasn't possessed like he said he is. He even reached out to anyone that could help him in that post I cited, so to me, your vote seems EXTREMELY scummy. Combine that with the case others have put forth and I'm very comfortable with lynching you. Unvote tdpatriots.Vote hockeymonkey.--FCOD Then why did Hal think his issue was more pressing, and why has Darth not mentioned it again until asked? The post you cited has a lot of info in it, but really does he have to be a possessed human (like Hal) to know it? Could he not be some other role that knows what's going on?
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Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 12, 2008 11:19:45 GMT -5
Then why did Hal think his issue was more pressing, and why has Darth not mentioned it again until asked? The post you cited has a lot of info in it, but really does he have to be a possessed human (like Hal) to know it? Could he not be some other role that knows what's going on? Yeah, I just went and read all of Darth Sensitive's posts. He never said he was more urgent than Hal. In fact, he said the opposite. Why did Hal think so? I don't know and frankly I don't care. I don't see what is scummy about looking through dead players' posts (especially ones with power roles) for breadcrumbs. I do, however, see what is scummy about trying to get someone (who is likely town, in my eyes) lynched. Therefore, my vote will remain on you, HM. --FCOD
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Post by bufftabby on Jun 12, 2008 11:24:14 GMT -5
Darth are you seriously combing through posts and looking for breadcrumbs? That's something it seems to me only scum would do. I know, I know, you have the same footwear issue as Hal did...or do you? Maybe you just had some additional information that you could exploit to get semi-confirmed. I'm really really tempted to vote for you right now. I think it's very odd that you don't seem to be concerned for your welfare when Hal seemed to think your footwear issue was more pressing than his. Fuck it, I'll take my lumps. vote Darth Sensitive Well, this is enough to convince me to lynch you. Darth Sensitive, although not "confirmed", is likely who he says he is. Back on page two of Day one, he explained everything about d2mons that we now know to be fact. Cite. Seems to me that he wouldn't know all of this information if he wasn't possessed like he said he is. He even reached out to anyone that could help him in that post I cited, so to me, your vote seems EXTREMELY scummy. Combine that with the case others have put forth and I'm very comfortable with lynching you.<Vote snipped> --FCOD What do you mean, "everything about D2mons that we now know to be fact"? Here is your "cite" from DS: We don't know that any of that is true. It doesn't seem as though Hal's D2mon took anyone else over, but we don't know that. We don't know that the Demons 1 or 2 can't bring Town over to their side, aka recruit. So, where are these "facts" you speak of that we "now know to be true"?
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Post by Hockey Monkey! on Jun 12, 2008 11:28:45 GMT -5
So did you miss my conversation with NAF on the previous page? (Sorry, but as long as I've been playing here, I haven't figured out how to link to a post.) It's on page 9. This is the first good lead I've felt like I had all game, there is only 7 hours or so left in the Day, and I am going with it. I said I'll take my lumps, so if you wanna vote for me that's fine. It's a bad vote though.
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Post by bufftabby on Jun 12, 2008 11:31:21 GMT -5
Then why did Hal think his issue was more pressing, and why has Darth not mentioned it again until asked? The post you cited has a lot of info in it, but really does he have to be a possessed human (like Hal) to know it? Could he not be some other role that knows what's going on? Yeah, I just went and read all of Darth Sensitive's posts. He never said he was more urgent than Hal. In fact, he said the opposite. Why did Hal think so? I don't know and frankly I don't care. I don't see what is scummy about looking through dead players' posts (especially ones with power roles) for breadcrumbs. I do, however, see what is scummy about trying to get someone (who is likely town, in my eyes) lynched. Therefore, my vote will remain on you, HM. --FCOD (Bolding mine) When did he state that he wanted to look through dead players' posts? I saw no mention of dead players in his post. Perhaps it's something the two of you discussed over on the scum board.
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Post by Rysto on Jun 12, 2008 11:43:34 GMT -5
So did you miss my conversation with NAF on the previous page? (Sorry, but as long as I've been playing here, I haven't figured out how to link to a post.) It's on page 9. This is the first good lead I've felt like I had all game, there is only 7 hours or so left in the Day, and I am going with it. I said I'll take my lumps, so if you wanna vote for me that's fine. It's a bad vote though. Hockey, if you're not comfortable making a full claim that's fine, but you're expecting people to read between the lines to a rather ridiculous degree here.
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Post by Merestil Haye on Jun 12, 2008 11:43:57 GMT -5
Darth are you seriously combing through posts and looking for breadcrumbs? That's something it seems to me only scum would do. I know, I know, you have the same footwear issue as Hal did...or do you? Maybe you just had some additional information that you could exploit to get semi-confirmed. I'm really really tempted to vote for you right now. I think it's very odd that you don't seem to be concerned for your welfare when Hal seemed to think your footwear issue was more pressing than his. Fuck it, I'll take my lumps. vote Darth Sensitive Well, this is enough to convince me to lynch you. Darth Sensitive, although not "confirmed", is likely who he says he is. Back on page two of Day one, he explained everything about d2mons that we now know to be fact. Cite. Seems to me that he wouldn't know all of this information if he wasn't possessed like he said he is. He even reached out to anyone that could help him in that post I cited, so to me, your vote seems EXTREMELY scummy. Combine that with the case others have put forth and I'm very comfortable with lynching you. Unvote tdpatriots.Vote hockeymonkey.--FCOD (Bleached) FCoD, Darth's post seemed to me (at the time) to be significantly off in one respect. Since he basically presented only two facts, that means he had a score of 50%. It is not true that Incorporeals are exorcised by sprinkling holy water on them. From the Day 1 colour : That doesn't say holy water exorcises them. It clearly implies that exorcism is a separate action. Second point : Ryjae. In day 2 he admitted that he sprinkled Hal with holy water the previous evening, and Hal "steamed." Hal was not exorcised by this - he died a "possessed human." We know from the Dawn post Today that Ryjae was a Cop/Vig. In short, he had an investigative role and, given the setup, it's quite likely that the Corporeals are effectively indistinguishable from humans (that's not certain, but likely). If that is the case, then holy water sprinkling is likely the only investigative tool we have. I'm not sure where this is heading, but it's certainly increased my suspicion of you. My eye was first drawn to you with Misterblockey's switch of votes Yesterday. He's explained that, and with one exception his points made sense. Here, you seem to be spreading speculation that was (to me, anyway) obviously wrong when it was written, and confirmation of the error has been provided. So why bring it up? Let me think while I drink yet more coffee. [oog] I've had an invitation out for the evening, but would have to leave early-ish to get back; consequently if I do go out I'll be back before midnight and able to place a vote. If I can get through to the host in the next 30 mins or so. [/oog]
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Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 12, 2008 11:54:55 GMT -5
Let's dissect that post, shall we? Cry for help. We know now this to be true. At that time we didn't know if d2mons were players or a game mechanic. We know that d2mons are exorcised and become town ( ryjae told us) Something else that ryjae told us after this post. This is the part of the post where he tries to communicate with the exorcist/other possessed humans, IMO. (Bolding mine) When did he state that he wanted to look through dead players' posts? I saw no mention of dead players in his post. Perhaps it's something the two of you discussed over on the scum board. AFAIK, breadcrumbs are hints left by power roles (specifically investigative ones) so that upon death the rest of the town can figure out what the power role did. I'm not sure what definition of the term you are using. Perhaps you could enlighten me? FCoD, Darth's post seemed to me (at the time) to be significantly off in one respect. Since he basically presented only two facts, that means he had a score of 50%. Hal said the SAME THING. Maybe he's scum too!!!!11 The point is that he knew more about the mechanics of the game than vanilla town, and he said the same basic things as Hal. That's enough for me to put him on my "likely telling the truth" list. Also... MHaye? The day ends in 7 HOURS. Placing a vote after midnight might be a little late. --FCOD
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Post by Merestil Haye on Jun 12, 2008 11:57:13 GMT -5
Midnight is six hours and five minutes away. Plenty of time.
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Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 12, 2008 11:58:45 GMT -5
Midnight is six hours and five minutes away. Plenty of time. Oh right, because people placing votes at the last possible minute is exactly what this town needs. --FCOD
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Post by Hawkmod on Jun 12, 2008 12:16:09 GMT -5
Roosh
I think you might be taking my words as implying you have been lazy. I don’t believe that to be true. I just think our motivations differ.
Your biggest priority isn’t to find scum. Your biggest priority is to figure out who you are. This is entirely reasonable and the tact I’d take if I were in your shoes. After all you wouldn’t want to aid town and realize later that you were in fact on a different side. My number one and only priority to get rid of all evil entities, so our goals aren’t fully aligned.
I also don’t think we will have that much more information on your case tomorrow then today. Perhaps the investigator, if we have one, will investigate someone else. I know if I was a detective, I’d be checking out Story. Perhaps, an investigation would just show you as having amnesia. Where would that get us? Sure, you will give us three more clues tomorrow, but I believe you are smart enough to determine whether they point to you being scum. Can you honestly say if you thought that, you wouldn’t change them around before revealing them?
I’m still bothered about the timing of your revealed information. Why not speak up at beginning of the game, and let the town help you figure things out? What is the motivation for keeping things secret? Were you concerned you were not town aligned. Why wait so late in day two to reveal things? Your late reveal directly led to the lynching of a townie. If you revealed your possible connection to TDpats earlier on, we could have sorted things out much earlier, and considered other suspects.
Speaking of which, what do you think of the case against TDpats now that you probably aren’t connected to him?
To be fair to you, I don’t think I looked closely enough at your recent posts. I was between lynching you and NAF, and when NAF lessened my concerns a bit, I went to my other top choice. I’ll reread everything you wrote past TdPat's revelation later today.
Oh and if I’m trying to slip under the radar, accusing NAF and you isn’t really the best way of doing it.
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Post by Merestil Haye on Jun 12, 2008 12:27:41 GMT -5
We know that d2mons are exorcised and become town ( ryjae told us) Yes, but we know now, and knew then, that the exorcism was not accomplished by "sprinkling them with holy water." In short that was plain wrong. We've had confirmation that it was plain wrong. So don't now tout it as fact. We know Ryjae was a cop, and not an exorcist. And fundamentally, I disagree. The exorcist role is likely to be a primary power, not an afterthought. (Snipped some stuff I'm not arguing with.) All that proves is that Hal made the same mistake. You claimed, in D3.279 that Darth S's post explained the facts about Incorporeals. It does not. It is significantly wrong in at least one respect, and that error is confirmed by reliable evidence. That is my issue with your post. and why I am now actively considering a vote for you.
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Post by Pollux Oil on Jun 12, 2008 12:36:30 GMT -5
Vote Count hockeymonkey (2): NAF1138, FlyingCowofDoom Darth Sensitive (2): hockeymonkey, bufftabby tdpatriots (1): Nanook NAF1138 (1): Kison FlyingCowofDoom (1): misterblockey Roosh (1): hawkeyeop hawkeyeop (1): Roosh Czech (1): Rysto
Not Voting: 9
Approximately 6 hours and 30 minutes left until deadline.
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Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 12, 2008 12:43:09 GMT -5
You claimed, in D3.279 that Darth S's post explained the facts about Incorporeals. It does not. It is significantly wrong in at least one respect, and that error is confirmed by reliable evidence. That is my issue with your post. and why I am now actively considering a vote for you. You can twist things however you want, but my point remains that he and Hal knew more about game mechanics than vanilla town, and he and Hal made the same mistake about holy water which tells me that they both read something I didn't. How do you know that an exorcism doesn't consist of holy water and more? That would make both ryjae's and Hal/Darth's statements true. He knew about d2mons being a game mechanic. He knew that possessed players could be exorcised and returned to town. You can't dispute those facts. You can argue over wording as much as you want but it doesn't change anything. And besides, if you don't believe Darth, why don't you vote for him? Lynch all liars, right? If you want to vote for me, then fine. Do it now. Stop waiting until the last possible minute to vote, because it's detrimental for the town. --FCOD
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Post by Darth Sensitive on Jun 12, 2008 12:47:07 GMT -5
Vote Hockeymonkey[/color]
If you don't think it's worth looking for hints from dead players, then that's fine. But don't think that me doing so is scummy.
I think I know why Hal thought I was more urgent. I don't believe I was, and more to the point, it's resolved itself.
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Post by Hockey Monkey! on Jun 12, 2008 13:01:58 GMT -5
[/color] If you don't think it's worth looking for hints from dead players, then that's fine. But don't think that me doing so is scummy. I think I know why Hal thought I was more urgent. I don't believe I was, and more to the point, it's resolved itself.[/quote] Can you elaborate on that? You said earlier toDay that you still needed help with your footwear. Why did Hal think you were more urgent? How has it resolved itself?
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Post by Merestil Haye on Jun 12, 2008 13:07:35 GMT -5
You claimed, in D3.279 that Darth S's post explained the facts about Incorporeals. It does not. It is significantly wrong in at least one respect, and that error is confirmed by reliable evidence. That is my issue with your post. and why I am now actively considering a vote for you. You can twist things however you want, but my point remains that he and Hal knew more about game mechanics than vanilla town, and he and Hal made the same mistake about holy water which tells me that they both read something I didn't. How do you know that an exorcism doesn't consist of holy water and more? That would make both ryjae's and Hal/Darth's statements true. He knew about d2mons being a game mechanic. He knew that possessed players could be exorcised and returned to town. You can't dispute those facts. You can argue over wording as much as you want but it doesn't change anything. No, it doesn't. I don't believe that a possessed player would have any special information about exorcisms at all. Hal and Darth were making guesses based on the Day 1 opening colour, and they got a bit wrong. Why, I know not. The truth was there to see. But not "lynch all who make an error." I put those posts down to a misreading, and the fact that neither player continued to push the hypothesis that "holy water spritz=exorcism" later in the Day suggests to me that they might have changed their minds. It's the way I play. As far as I'm concerned, votes are not things to be tossed around like confetti. The large number of players not yet voting (even Storyteller - which is weird) suggests I'm not alone in not knowing which way to jump. I'm not wholly comfortable with a vote for you, primarily because I don't feel that I've had enough time to think the issue through. But time is one thing we don't have. Vote FlyingCowofDoom. I'll be back in 4½-5 hours or so, in time to absorb the action and change vote if necessary.
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Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 12, 2008 13:13:01 GMT -5
It's the way I play. As far as I'm concerned, votes are not things to be tossed around like confetti. The large number of players not yet voting (even Storyteller - which is weird) suggests I'm not alone in not knowing which way to jump. [...] I'll be back in 4½-5 hours or so, in time to absorb the action and change vote if necessary. If everyone played the way you do, nobody would be able to make a claim before they got lynched. No offense, but it's bad play. Votes shouldn't be tossed around like confetti -- they should be placed upon the person whom you find the most suspicious and moved as necessary. Waiting until the very end of the Day benefits nobody except the scum that might try to redirect a lynch at the last minute. I'm not the only one that feels this way. People voting at the last minute is a HUGE problem in this game. --FCOD
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Post by Darth Sensitive on Jun 12, 2008 13:19:13 GMT -5
You can twist things however you want, but my point remains that he and Hal knew more about game mechanics than vanilla town, and he and Hal made the same mistake about holy water which tells me that they both read something I didn't. How do you know that an exorcism doesn't consist of holy water and more? That would make both ryjae's and Hal/Darth's statements true. He knew about d2mons being a game mechanic. He knew that possessed players could be exorcised and returned to town. You can't dispute those facts. You can argue over wording as much as you want but it doesn't change anything. No, it doesn't. I don't believe that a possessed player would have any special information about exorcisms at all. Hal and Darth were making guesses based on the Day 1 opening colour, and they got a bit wrong. Why, I know not. The truth was there to see. I personally believe that they might have more info, but I'm just vanilla town. [/color] If you don't think it's worth looking for hints from dead players, then that's fine. But don't think that me doing so is scummy. I think I know why Hal thought I was more urgent. I don't believe I was, and more to the point, it's resolved itself.[/quote] Can you elaborate on that? You said earlier toDay that you still needed help with your footwear. Why did Hal think you were more urgent? How has it resolved itself?[/quote] I believe Hal came to his conclusion through "a close reading" of this post. It is only resolved in that as far as we know, there is only one person remaining with footwear ==> order doesn't matter for removal. I'm off to work and won't be back before the deadline.
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